Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-21 Thread Frank Brickle
Edward H Russell wrote: It is easy to be enthusiastic about something that doesn't exist. In Graham Greene's Ministry of Fear there's a lady Nazi spy who's captured but undismayed, remarking that the British don't hang women. The detective who captured her replies, We may hang more women

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-21 Thread Eric Wachsmann
FlexRadio Systems -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] radio.biz] On Behalf Of Jerry Flanders Sent: Thursday, September 20, 2007 6:32 PM To: Jim Lux; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Flexradio Subject: Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE Will the express freebies

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-21 Thread Jim Lux
At 01:15 PM 9/21/2007, Eric Wachsmann wrote: We haven't committed to doing anything with VS Express versions, BUT we ARE committing to do everything in our power to utilize free tools available to everyone. This may include VS Express, but will almost surely extend beyond that at least for OS

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Lee A Crocker
Its even more interesting than that. I can envision multiple software radios controlled by a joystick or maybe 2 joysticks and audio coming from several directions depending on the RX that is being used with focus growing and shrinking as needed, and the appropriate hardware coming online just

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
This radio has the true potential for if you can think it you can do it. The multidimensional user interface has barely been addressed. Yes Agreed! That's why the underlying architecture used for the functional decomposition is so darn important. After all, you actually COULD write any of

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: I'm just wondering what the PowerSDR devs are planning... what type of decomposition have they proposed? Is there a draft of an architecture document or something that we can read and comment on? I thought it had been mentioned several times on this list and on

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
Thanks Frank. The principle we've articulated often is that comments in the form of working code are gratefully accepted. All others will be addressed as circumstances permit. Can you help me with one thing: How does one provide comments on an architecture in the form of working code?

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: I suppose the basic question I'm asking is how the significant architectural decisions about PowerSDR (especially PowerSDR V2) are made and if the community gets a chance to review or provide input. I'm fine with being told No, the community at large doesn't really

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Jim McLester
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: Thanks Frank. The principle we've articulated often is that comments in the form of working code are gratefully accepted. All others will be addressed as circumstances permit. . I'm fine with being told No, the community at large

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Jerry Flanders
The principle we've articulated often is that comments in the form of working code are gratefully accepted. All others will be addressed as circumstances permit. Language? Are the freebies from Microsoft adequate for PowerSDR now? Jerry W4UK

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread k5nwa
At 02:26 PM 9/20/2007, you wrote: Thus, requesting comments in the form of working code would be equivalent, in my world, to saying comments on the ARCHITECTURE at not welcome as it has already been decided, but if you have a proposal of how some of that architecture might be IMPLEMENTED, feel

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Edward H Russell
I've been following this thread about future SDR development with deliberately muffled interest. However there is one observation I can't seem to stifle: It is easy to be enthusiastic about something that doesn't exist. 73 Ed W2RF ___

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
It's pretty much the same as in any other F/OSS project with a majority of the developers being unpaid volunteers. If there is some aspect of the code that displeases you, you are emphatically encouraged to provide an alternative. Use the source,... Again, THAT would be implementation.

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Jim Lux
At 12:55 PM 9/20/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote: The principle we've articulated often is that comments in the form of working code are gratefully accepted. All others will be addressed as circumstances permit. Language? Are the freebies from Microsoft adequate for PowerSDR now? No..

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Jerry Flanders
Will the express freebies be adequate for the next version of PowerSDR? Jerry W4UK At 07:24 PM 9/20/2007, Jim Lux wrote: At 12:55 PM 9/20/2007, Jerry Flanders wrote: The principle we've articulated often is that comments in the form of working code are gratefully accepted. All others

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: Again, THAT would be implementation. Not architecture. http://paulgraham.com/progbot.html 73 Frank AB2KT ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
http://paulgraham.com/progbot.html http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non_sequitur ___ FlexRadio mailing list FlexRadio@flex-radio.biz http://mail.flex-radio.biz/mailman/listinfo/flexradio_flex-radio.biz Archive Link:

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-20 Thread Frank Brickle
Peter G. Viscarola wrote: Can you help me with one thing: How does one provide comments on an architecture in the form of working code? In my world, working code would imply an implementation, which would come well after an architecture. How do you feel about such concepts as illustrate

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-19 Thread Rob Dennison
Hi all, Someone once said every single person with two hands and two eyes wants a different GUI. Seems to me, using vCom one can build any GUI wanted or use any existing GUI, minimize PowerSDR and get on with (ham) life. In fact one can argue very strongly PowerSDR should apply basic

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-19 Thread Giuseppe Campana
cq GUI cq GUI cq GUI... Hi.do you remember these arts ? This is a very.very old page with some dreams about PowerSDR GUI interface. http://www.cqdx.it/sdr1000/sdr1000box.html 73 Beppe IK3VIG At 18.30 19/09/2007, you wrote: Hi all, Someone once said every single person with

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-19 Thread Jim McLester
I agree. While I am not familiar (yet) with the DXLab suite, I would imagine that it probably doesn't support the panadaptor, probably the most valuable feature (to me) in day to day operation. As you note, however, one size does NOT fit all! Conceptually, a separate path for the panadaptor

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-19 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
In fact one can argue very strongly PowerSDR should apply basic software design principles and completely separate the GUI from the controller (radio.) Right. The way I understand it, this is what's been discussed for years now as PowerSDR V2.0 and is what Bob N4HY was talking about.

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-19 Thread Peter G. Viscarola
tells the story about as well as can be. Each process will live in its own virtual space and message passing will be the way to talk to each other. Interesting and thanks for the clarification. This is not at all unreasonable and is very much along the lines of some of the work that I've

[Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-18 Thread K3PZ
Frank (WA1GFZ), Why don't post your observations/complaints on the Flex Reflector and debate them with somebody alot more knowlegable than me. I am user/tester that happens to love the new Flex 5K. I'm sure that Frank, Robert, Tim and some of the other experts will be glad to debate you on

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-18 Thread Philip Covington
On 9/18/07, K3PZ [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank (WA1GFZ), Why don't post your observations/complaints on the Flex Reflector and debate them with somebody alot more knowlegable than me. I am user/tester that happens to love the new Flex 5K. I'm sure that Frank, Robert, Tim and some of the

Re: [Flexradio] FLEX CHALLENGE

2007-09-18 Thread Robert McGwier
There are multiple things to discuss here but first we have to make sure we are talking about apples and apples. Paul's enthusiasm is for the Flex 5000. Frank's problems are not with that radio. Frank is using the the Janus/Ozzy combo but again, he is not having a problem with the radio or