Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Sat, Dec 12, 2015 at 9:02 AM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > Lucid Puppy most probably uses ext4 and I assume that is the problem. No, it's actually ext3, but maybe it got confused because I installed GRUB in the superblock (or whatever). So, in the interest of

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Rugxulo, I still have DJGPP 2.04 installed plus gcc 4.5.3 and compiled it with that. Lucid Puppy most probably uses ext4 and I assume that is the problem. Georg -- ___

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Thu, Dec 10, 2015 at 8:47 AM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > So I made a fork of the mmeeks/ext2tools project and did my changes plus > wrote new documentation in the readme file. > > You will find the project here: > https://github.com/georgp24/ext2tools > > Github

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I used to be sceptical about Github but once you have used it it turns out to be quite handy. So I made a fork of the mmeeks/ext2tools project and did my changes plus wrote new documentation in the readme file. You will find the project here: https://github.com/georgp24/ext2tools Github

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

ers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Sent: Tuesday, December 08, 2015 11:08 PM Subject: Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS > Hi, > > On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Georg Potthast <mail...@georgpotthast.de> > wrote: >> >> I did com

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:49 AM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > I could fork the mmeeks/ext2tools on GitHub and add my patches to it. Or do > you have a different suggestion? On GitHub I could add you and maybe > additional developers to be able to submit patches as well.

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

or FreeDOS developers." <freedos-devel@lists.sourceforge.net> Onderwerp: Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS To remove GRUB from your boot process, FDISK /MBR or the Linux or Windows equivalent of that is usually enough. In the less common case that you had GRUB

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

On 12/7/2015 10:13 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > To remove GRUB from your boot process, FDISK /MBR Ninja'd me lol Doesn't help that I'm like two days behind on my emails... > or the > Linux or Windows equivalent of that is usually enough. > > In the less common case that you had GRUB in the boot >

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Have you tried: fdisk /mbr to remake the master boot record? On 12/7/2015 7:33 AM, JAYDEN CHARBONNEAU wrote: Is there a way to completely FORMAT and REMOVE grub?Basically wiping the drive clean.I googled this,and could not find any helpful results. On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Eric Auer

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 5:20 AM, Georg Potthast wrote: > > I did compile mmeeks/ext2tools and they seem to work doing a quick test. > > Instructions for compiling: > - download a zip archive from github and unpack into ext2tools (rename > ext2tools-master) > - use

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

To remove GRUB from your boot process, FDISK /MBR or the Linux or Windows equivalent of that is usually enough. In the less common case that you had GRUB in the boot sector of your Linux and NOT in the MBR: Simply make something else than Linux the active partition ;-) You can also wipe those

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Is there a way to completely FORMAT and REMOVE grub?Basically wiping the drive clean.I googled this,and could not find any helpful results. On Sun, Dec 6, 2015 at 2:46 PM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Hi Georg, > > > I gave up on Grub plus DOS after I locked myself out from my PC. >

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I fixed the problem.It turns out I was using the wrong utility.I was using FORMAT from MS-DOS 5.0.When I used the version of FORMAT that came with FreeDOS,it formatted the SSD,and allowed me to install the OS.Sorry for the little issue,but at least it isn't a filesystem issue. On Mon, Dec 7, 2015

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I did some further testing. E2PART does report ext3 partitions as ext2. But e2ls and e2cp work fine with ext3 partitions anyway. I had no luck with ext4 though. AFAIK ext3 partitions can be accessed from programs that only support ext2 since the main difference between these file systems is

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

In regards to volumes,whenever I try installing FreeDOS on my SSD (On my laptop),I always get this when it boots into the drive: ?AL?..12 It repeats when is pressed.I recently installed FreeDOS on it,removing linux.I think GRUB may still be in the SDD's MBR,because the GRUB screen flashes for a

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Jayden, I do not know how your question relates to ext file systems. However, I gave up on Grub plus DOS after I locked myself out from my PC. I made a mistake in the Grub configuration and I could not boot the PC at all any more. By the way, Barry Kauler(PuppyLinux) reported the same problem

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I think mmeeks/ext2tools is a good find, it should be easier to debug this than to write something from scratch. Once done, you could port newer versions of ext2tools to DOS based on this. This would bring ext3/ext4 support to DOS. > Hi, > > Not much else to report here. I assume this means

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I did compile mmeeks/ext2tools and they seem to work doing a quick test. Instructions for compiling: - download a zip archive from github and unpack into ext2tools (rename ext2tools-master) - use djgpp (set the required environment variables etc.) patch the mmeeks/ext2tools sources a bit: - add

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Georg, > I gave up on Grub plus DOS after I locked myself out from my PC. The usual way to fix this is to boot e.g. Linux from CD to edit the GRUB config and/or to reinstall the GRUB binary. There also is a limited interactive feature in GRUB, but it usually is not convenient at all to

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, Not much else to report here. I assume this means very few of us are interested in ext2? (Alas ) On Fri, Nov 6, 2015 at 10:36 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > I found a 2009-ish port of ext2tools to DJGPP, but it may? be > incomplete (has a few nits compiling, doesn't actually

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

I had the idea to make a file manager program which could mount volumes which DOS would not, read their native filesystems and facilitate copying/moving files between those volumes and native ones. Alas, there's so little time... On 12/5/2015 5:26 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > Hi, > > Not much else to

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 5:42 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >> I agree that OpenWatcom would be nicer than Borland C++ here. >> Not sure if Pascal would be nice for TSR drivers: You can do >> it (see keyboard

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi again, On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Jim Hall wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >> >> > Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it supports >> > only ext2, not ext3 or ext4. Has anyone actually tested

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Rugxulo/Joe/All, Indeed :) BTW, Joe also provided me the beta version of his ltools-like exfat :) And open watcom is throwing "Floating point exception" on my linux mint: talvisota Downloads # uname -a Linux talvisota 3.13.0-37-generic #64-Ubuntu SMP Mon Sep 22 21:28:38 UTC 2014 x86_64 x86_64

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, It seems that 15.09 is out, which claims: "now can extract ext2 and multivolume VMDK images". http://sourceforge.net/p/sevenzip/discussion/45797/thread/24f079ab/ http://www.7-zip.org/a/7z1509-src.7z On Fri, Oct 9, 2015 at 3:57 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > On Sat, Oct 3, 2015

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Sat, Oct 3, 2015 at 4:15 PM, Rugxulo wrote: > > FYI, although it was just (beta) released two days ago (and needs more > testing, doesn't have full sources available yet) > > 7-Zip 15.08 "now can extract ext3 and ext4 (Linux file system) images." > >

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

>> you are a smart guy, but - as Eric already wrote - >>> actually BLOCK drivers are only suitable for making >>> FAT partitions on non-BIOS drives (e.g. USB) usable > And I disagree with Eric (and probably lots of other people too) on > this. They are not ONLY suitable for FAT partitions -- it

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

> actually BLOCK drivers are only suitable for making > FAT partitions on non-BIOS drives (e.g. USB) usable > by DOS. For other filesystems, you would use other > interfaces: CDEX / network redirector API, as used > for ISO9660 CD/DVD and for VMWare in VMSMOUNT :-) Not necessarily. Whatever the

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Dear Bret, you are a smart guy, but - as Eric already wrote - >> actually BLOCK drivers are only suitable for making >> FAT partitions on non-BIOS drives (e.g. USB) usable device drivers are useful only for FAT systems. am 5. Oktober 2015 um 16:32 schrieben Sie: >> actually BLOCK drivers are

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

> you are a smart guy, but - as Eric already wrote - >> actually BLOCK drivers are only suitable for making >> FAT partitions on non-BIOS drives (e.g. USB) usable And I disagree with Eric (and probably lots of other people too) on this. They are not ONLY suitable for FAT partitions -- it is at

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

If you set the device attribute word in the device driver header (bit 13) to flag a non-IBM disk (zero), you can access any disk or tape if the block device driver is written to support that. DOS will just specify the logical sector numbers it needs and does not care if this is stored in FAT

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

El 3/10/2015 8:57 a. m., "Georg Potthast" escribió: > To use the standard DOS interface for device drivers one would have to write > a block device driver for DOS that provides support for ext2/ext3/ext4. This > is usually done in Assembler to save memory space. This way

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Eduardo and Georg, actually BLOCK drivers are only suitable for making FAT partitions on non-BIOS drives (e.g. USB) usable by DOS. For other filesystems, you would use other interfaces: CDEX / network redirector API, as used for ISO9660 CD/DVD and for VMWare in VMSMOUNT :-) Regards, Eric

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Fri, Oct 2, 2015 at 12:25 PM, Jim Hall wrote: >> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: >> > Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it supports >> > only ext2, not ext3 or ext4. It is probably better to use the >> >

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it > > supports > > only ext2, not ext3 or ext4. It is probably better to use the > > source of VMSMOUNT as basis for TSR drivers for exFAT access :-) > To

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

> On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it supports > > only ext2, not ext3 or ext4. It is probably better to use the > > source of VMSMOUNT as basis for TSR drivers for exFAT access :-) > On Thu,

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi guys, It is probably better to use the source of VMSMOUNT as basis for TSR drivers for exFAT access :-) Thanks, I'll keep that in mind. I already downloaded it. However, my plan is to _first_ release and test the (then read/write) access as a _C_ program and when the algorithm is stable

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

On 10/1/2015 6:39 AM, Joe Forster/STA wrote: ... I haven't looked into GPT yet but I don't think it should be _that_ complicated. ... It's not. --

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

It's not very complicated, but it definitely has some screwy aspects to it. E.g., in an MBR there is a one-byte "Partition Operating System Identifier", which includes different values for things like FAT12, FAT16 small (<32MB), FAT16 large (>32MB), Extended, FAT32, FAT32 w/ VFAT, exFAT, etc.

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Nicely put Eric. On 01/10/2015 7:33 pm, "Eric Auer" wrote: > > Hi Rugxulo, > > as mentioned earlier in this thread, generic operating systems > are allowed to implement VFAT (FAT32 and LFN) without fees, so > I would not be too worried about those two more years. Regarding >

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, On Thu, Oct 1, 2015 at 4:32 AM, Eric Auer wrote: > > as mentioned earlier in this thread, generic operating systems > are allowed to implement VFAT (FAT32 and LFN) without fees, so > I would not be too worried about those two more years. I seriously think you're wrong

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Rugxulo, (sorry about the long thread while the FS candidate list shrinks...) >> as mentioned earlier in this thread, generic operating systems >> are allowed to implement VFAT (FAT32 and LFN) without fees, so >> I would not be too worried about those two more years. Referring to two items

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi Rugxulo, as mentioned earlier in this thread, generic operating systems are allowed to implement VFAT (FAT32 and LFN) without fees, so I would not be too worried about those two more years. Regarding LTOOLS quality: This thing is ancient and of course it supports only ext2, not ext3 or ext4.

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Multi format support is not the worst idea in the world. Open up freedos more I say whether it's tsr and or native Because freedos doesn't have ext2/3 support as such I had planned to add the support into aura gui either way. Support doesn't mean you have to use it but it allows other users to

Re: [Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi, I don't wish to discourage you (much), but as mentioned, exFAT is probably the worst idea in the world. I mean, come on, VFAT is *still* patented for two more years (even though MS doesn't active rely on it [since XP prefers NTFS] or boot from it [since Vista] anymore). We don't even have

[Freedos-devel] XFTOOLS - exFAT access a la LTOOLS

Hi guys, You really stirred me up with this exFAT discussion and Eric gave me a great idea with requesting LTOOLS. I connected the two, I delved into it and spent most of the last five days with implementing an exFAT file system processor. It is _very_ exciting! I have _not_ looked into any