Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Thomas Mueller
from Rugxulo: Light-weight? First of all, Linux (and similarly Windows and Mac) don't target older machines. To them, an old machine is i686 with 256 MB of RAM, and even that is too old for most distros. The bare minimum (for now) seems to be a Pentium 4, and that won't be supported forever.

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread dmccunney
On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: The point I'm trying to make is that it's pointless to pretend that all web browsers (and OSes and cpus) are created equal. Most aren't supported well, if at all. Even the developers who know how just don't care enough. If

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Jose Antonio Senna
Thomas Mueller mueller6...@twc.com said: There are some Linux distros for older computers, and NetBSD and FreeBSD can be installed on older computers. But building packages or the system from source is likely to be prohibitively slow on older machines. But these distros do not run newer

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 3:05 PM, Jose Antonio Senna jasse...@vivointernetdiscada.com.br wrote: I agree with D M Cunney that javascript is the most important shortcoming of DOS browsers, but I think HTML5 less needed than SSL v3 People are full speed ahead on HTML5 largely because the video

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Rugxulo
Hi, On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:59 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: The point I'm trying to make is that it's pointless to pretend that all web browsers (and OSes and cpus) are created equal. Most aren't supported

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 4:56 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 6:59 AM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Dec 15, 2014 at 7:36 PM, Rugxulo rugx...@gmail.com wrote: The point I'm trying to make is that it's pointless to pretend that all web browsers

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Louis Santillan
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:32 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: [SNIP] There is a pervasive bias against anything that isn't Windows, OS X, or Linux, and those (at least in modern, supported versions) don't target legacy machines (esp. nothing older than a P4). The trend seems to

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/16/2014 2:50 PM, Louis Santillan wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:32 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: Hardware is steadily smaller, faster, and cheaper. Have fun finding a new x86 machine these days that *isn't* 64 bit. ARM is still largely 32 bit, but that's changing

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread dmccunney
On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 5:50 PM, Louis Santillan lpsan...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Dec 16, 2014 at 2:32 PM, dmccunney dennis.mccun...@gmail.com wrote: And why *should* they target legacy machines? Exactly how long is something supposed to be supported? Hardware is steadily smaller, faster,

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/16/2014 3:56 PM, dmccunney wrote: I was talking about what you see if you go to purchase a desktop/laptop/netbook/what have you. IoT kit is not stuff end users will run to access the Internet and browse websites. Then why would you use DOS for those kind of tasks? It's the same thing.

Re: [Freedos-user] HTML5/Javascript/Flash (was: Re: Quickview ver 2.60)

2014-12-16 Thread Ralf Quint
On 12/16/2014 4:01 PM, dmccunney wrote: Even if all Intel based PCs are equipped with 64bit capable CPUs, they will just as happy run 32bit or even 16bit code just fine. Assuming OS support is there. The instruction set is the same. Various system calls may not be. If you want to run DOS