Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-09 Thread Prof David West
Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change You might want to check this out first: [1]http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/ Robert C On 1/7/12 5:01 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: I don't think I've ever done a chain letter before, but I thought

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-09 Thread Paul Paryski
Alas it would be unprofessional to elaborate. Sorry, Paul -Original Message- From: Gary Schiltz g...@naturesvisualarts.com To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Sent: Sun, Jan 8, 2012 3:16 pm Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change Care

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-09 Thread Steve Smith
Owen - While I'm on it: I feel disenfranchised this year because the Dems don't have a primary too. My parents used to (re)register every election for whatever party had the most interesting primaries. Then one day they woke up died-in-the-wool Republicans. The old saying goes if you are

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Douglas Roberts
Well there you go then; that's the last time I let someone else to my Snopes checking for me. Besides, all the the recommendations listed are so intelligent, so rational, so right there is not a snowflakes chance in hell that they would ever be implemented. --Doug -- Doug Roberts

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
But that's the point, Doug! Many of them have! Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Douglas Roberts Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:23 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Douglas Roberts
! Many of them have! ** ** Nick ** ** *From:* friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] *On Behalf Of *Douglas Roberts *Sent:* Sunday, January 08, 2012 11:23 AM *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Marcus G. Daniels
On 1/8/12 11:23 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. I want professionals working on my behalf. I want skeptical decision makers that can engage lobbyists (small

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Roberts
To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change On 1/8/12 11:23 AM, Douglas Roberts wrote: The Founding Fathers envisioned citizen legislators, so ours should serve their term(s), then go home and back to work. I want professionals working on my behalf. I want skeptical decision

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Steve Smith
of Utopia evolving, Marcus? Sent from my Kindle Fire *From:* Marcus G. Daniels mar...@snoutfarm.com *Sent:* Sun Jan 08 13:00:52 MST 2012 *To:* friam@redfish.com *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change On 1/8/12 11:23 AM

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Doug Roberts
: Steve Smith sasm...@swcp.com Sent: Sun Jan 08 14:11:26 MST 2012 To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change Doug, et al- Despite my participation in debunking the specifics of the chain-mail attributed to Warren Buffet, I am

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Paul Paryski
, Jan 8, 2012 9:29 am Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change Steve, Joel Grey and Liza Minille said it all: Money money money makes the world go 'round. As long as our laws allow elected Congressmen to accept corporate lobbyist special interest bribes, nothing will change. Sent from

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Paul Paryski
, Jan 8, 2012 9:29 am Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change Steve, Joel Grey and Liza Minille said it all: Money money money makes the world go 'round. As long as our laws allow elected Congressmen to accept corporate lobbyist special interest bribes, nothing will change. Sent from

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Owen Densmore
I simply like the initial email for its really sound ideas. Now what percentage of them are being followed according to FactCheck? While I'm on it: I feel disenfranchised this year because the Dems don't have a primary too. Why not, for heven's sake? Shouldn't we presume that a better Dem

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Gary Schiltz
Care to elaborate on 'we created small crises to create change.'? Don't remember where I saw it (bumper sticker, email...), but I'll consider thinking of a corporation as a person when Texas puts one to death. Gary On Jan 8, 2012, at 3:21 PM, Paul Paryski wrote: And as long as corporations

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Russ Abbott
According to thishttp://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/most of the problems in the chain letter aren't true and don't need fixing. *-- Russ * On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:15 PM, Gary Schiltz g...@naturesvisualarts.comwrote: Care to elaborate on 'we created small crises to

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Nicholas Thompson
Owen, Whom the gods would drive mad.. Etc. Nick From: friam-boun...@redfish.com [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Owen Densmore Sent: Sunday, January 08, 2012 7:22 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change I

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-08 Thread Douglas Roberts
There's little enough to worry about, Owen, The bluntly specific, common-sense nature of the suggestions outlined in the letter will, by their very nature, ensure that they will not be acted upon. --Doug On Sun, Jan 8, 2012 at 7:21 PM, Owen Densmore o...@backspaces.net wrote: I simply like

[FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-07 Thread Douglas Roberts
I don't think I've ever done a chain letter before, but I thought this one was worth making an exception. On the other hand, I have so little respect for the voters of this country who allowed us to get into our current state. But still... Winds of Change Warren Buffet is asking each

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-07 Thread Robert J. Cordingley
You might want to check this out first: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/ Robert C On 1/7/12 5:01 PM, Douglas Roberts wrote: I don't think I've ever done a chain letter before, but I thought this one was worth making an exception. On the other hand, I have so little

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-07 Thread Nicholas Thompson
-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Robert J. Cordingley Sent: Saturday, January 07, 2012 8:09 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change You might want to check this out first: http://www.factcheck.org/2011/03/congressional-reform-act/ Robert

Re: [FRIAM] Fwd: Winds of Change

2012-01-07 Thread joseph spinden
If you click on the snopes verification link in the original email from Doug, it is clear that Warren Buffet [sic] is NOT asking that the email be forwarded. In fact, he apparently has no connection to it at all beyond the fact that someone put his name on it. That said, it is not such a bad