Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-30 Thread dark
@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 3:26 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Yohandy, At this point Mysteries of the Ancients is very near complete in its current form. The main reason for that is most of the stability issues and features have been added to the Genesis Engine which

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-30 Thread dark
! Dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 4:01 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Bryan, That's just it. After Mysteries of the Ancients is done all of the games I

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-30 Thread dark
think any reasonable person could blame you. Beware the grue! dark. - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Friday, October 30, 2009 5:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, Well, I

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yeah, that is pretty much what I said last night in my MOTA Decision post.If you have not already done so you might want to read that post as I pretty much laid out my decision in detail and why I did so. Smile. dark wrote: Hi tom. As i've said Tom, I really would like a modern

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-30 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, I'm not changing the game. I was just making my feelings known publically. Though that won't in anyway stop me from producing the best side-scroller I can for you guys. As for Tomb Raider there were a total of three side-scrollers produced that I know of. I think I may wish to

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread dark
Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, I may have the source code for Montezuma's Revenge around here, but I can't tell you what version of the source I have. I can say that beta 9 was full of miner bugs, and obviously I wouldn't be updating the game to fix those bugs. So even

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread dark
well, to be blunt tom, even if they aren't numerous enough to be a mob, from your reaction it sounds as if they're making enough noise to be one, ;D. Beware the grue! Dark. --- Gamers mailing list __ Gamers@audyssey.org If you want to leave the list, send E-mail to

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Oh, there are a few bugs. One of them you would die and respaun at the same place instead of at the beginning of the level. Another bug you would jump and get stuck in the air. These didn't happen all the time, but they could get annoying when they did happen. There also a couple that

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Yep. As they say it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the entire bag. That is what happens with me. I work hard at what I do, take pride in what I do, and it hurts to know that there are a few people that don't appreciate that. That said I am trying not to let that get to me

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Charles Rivard
, October 29, 2009 6:05 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, Yep. As they say it only takes a few bad apples to spoil the entire bag. That is what happens with me. I work hard at what I do, take pride in what I do, and it hurts to know that there are a few people that don't

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Charles, There are a variety of open source licenses, but in general it means the source is free and open to the public. You can modify it, recompile it, make versions for different platforms, do whatever you want with it because the software and source code is public property. For

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Yohandy
: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, Oh, there are a few bugs. One of them you would die and respaun at the same place instead of at the beginning of the level. Another bug you would jump and get stuck in the air. These didn't happen all the time, but they could get annoying when they did

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread dark
I'm afraid I'd much rather Mota currently continues as is, as a fully featured modern side scroller than an fps game. Not that it would be the end of the world, I just think there are features of the side scrolling genre which haven't been tapped in audio yet. I only suggested releasing

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread dark
True tom. Wasn't it Us president lincoln though who said, you can't please everyone all of the time, or something to that effect. I can't think of any creative project in gaming, fiction, music or anything else which hasn't had it's detractors. Ultimately though as has been said

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread dark
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 4:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, Oh, there are a few bugs. One of them you would die and respaun at the same place instead of at the beginning of the level. Another bug you would jump and get stuck in the air

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, Maybe, but here is the thing. If I decided to rerelease Montezuma's Revenge under a new name I'd feel compelled to fix it and finish it. Essentially voiding all of the time spend on Mysteries of the Ancients. Oh, I'd end up with two games instead of one to be sure, but if I had

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread David Chittenden
Hello Thomas, Maybe this story from my past might help you find some perspective. I use to be a professional massage therapist. In my early days in that profession, I had 20 clients who absolutely loved my work. I then gave a free treatment to a woman who I really liked and she absolutely

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Yohandy
list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 3:39 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Yohandy, Maybe, but here is the thing. If I decided to rerelease Montezuma's Revenge under a new name I'd feel compelled to fix it and finish it. Essentially voiding all of the time

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 5:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Ok Thomas I have a question. How far from completion is MOTA at the current time? If the only thing left are the levels, then it would probably be a lot easier to complete the game as is as opposed

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Michael, You and others have made an excellent case for aiming for what might be classified as a fully modern side-scroller rather than an 80's style side-scroller or a full blown FPS game. What I am doing now seams to be the only real compromise between the two extremes. So I guess I need

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Michael, You and others have made an excellent case for aiming for what might be classified as a fully modern side-scroller rather than an 80's style side-scroller or a full blown FPS game. What I am doing now seams to be the only real

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Yohandy, At this point Mysteries of the Ancients is very near complete in its current form. The main reason for that is most of the stability issues and features have been added to the Genesis Engine which means the engine is pretty much done. The only thing I really have to do is add the

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Bryan, That's just it. After Mysteries of the Ancients is done all of the games I create in the Tomb Hunter series will definitely be 3D FPS titles. Which means in all likelihood I'll end up having to redo Mysteries of the Ancients as an FPS game anyway. I'll never like it or enjoy it

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Yohandy
: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion To the copyright holders though Uhandy, the only thing that mattered was the name. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Yohandy yohand...@gmail.com

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Yeah, but i've pretty much settled upon a course of action. See my previous post about that. The decision i've made won't require me dragging out the old Montezuma's Revenge game until I'm ready to do it justice. Smile. Yohandy wrote: exactly my point. so he can rename it whatever he

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Bryan Peterson
gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 10:01 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Bryan, That's just it. After Mysteries of the Ancients is done all of the games I create in the Tomb Hunter series will definitely be 3D FPS titles. Which means in all likelihood I'll end

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-29 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, Well, I suppose I could upgrade the game after Christmas, or whenever, and release it as 1.0. I'd actually like to see the last four levels get added, put Arazona Smith back in the game, and a few other additions. It wouldn't take me more than amonth to tidy it up and release it as

[Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread dark
Hi Tom. Here's a rather crazy idea to salve the feelings of those who are desperate for an 80's game. Go back to the last stable version of montizuma's return, say beta 9, I stil have this on my harddrive, which is possibly illegal, but deleting good games is against my

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
with that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Tom. Here's

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Ryan Strunk
a thing wrong with that. Homer: Hey, uh, could you go across the street and get me a slice of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 5:29 PM Subject: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread dark
: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:09 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Now that, my friend, isn't a half bad idea. The question is if he's still got the source code for that. If not then he can't very well do it. But it might just salve the feelings of those few who are dead set

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
- From: Ryan Strunk ryan.str...@gmail.com To: 'Gamers Discussion list' gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:12 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Not that there's a thing wrong with that? Then why use loaded words like bland? -Original Message- From

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Well Bryan, I'd hope that this idea wouldn't take too much shinanigans with the source code

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread dark
isn't such a crytical thing to considder at this stage. Beware the grue! Dark. - Original Message - From: Bryan Peterson bpeterson2...@cableone.net To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Thursday, October 29, 2009 12:24 AM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
of pizza? Vender: No pizza. Only Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: dark d...@xgam.org To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 6:28 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Well, the sounds don't appear to be incripted, so

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi Dark, I may have the source code for Montezuma's Revenge around here, but I can't tell you what version of the source I have. I can say that beta 9 was full of miner bugs, and obviously I wouldn't be updating the game to fix those bugs. So even if I rereleased that game it would be with the

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Thomas Ward
Hi, Oh, I wouldn't call them a mob. Just a small handful of, well, people with a difference of opinion shall we say. Most people thus far seam to be happy with the way MOTA is going, and a few want an FPS game. So far those who want a strictly classic side-scroller are in the minority by and

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Michael Feir
editor of Audyssey Magazine 1996-2004 Check out my blog at: www.michaelfeir.blogspot.com - Original Message - From: Thomas Ward thomasward1...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 10:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Bryan Peterson
Khlav Kalash. - Original Message - From: Michael Feir michael.f...@gmail.com To: Gamers Discussion list gamers@audyssey.org Sent: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 7:53 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Sounds like a good idea. However, I would think that at this stage, it would

Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion

2009-10-28 Thread Charles Rivard
: Wednesday, October 28, 2009 4:33 PM Subject: Re: [Audyssey] 80's games suggestion Hi Dark, I may have the source code for Montezuma's Revenge around here, but I can't tell you what version of the source I have. I can say that beta 9 was full of miner bugs, and obviously I wouldn't be updating the game