Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Jeff Buchbinder
On Mon, Jan 16, 2012 at 12:57 PM, Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au wrote: Speaking of Ganglia Web we should release a new version of Ganglia with the new web frontend included. I propose following 1. Remove web-frontend from monitor-core 2. Allow Ganglia Web to be versioned separately for

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
We should also bundle the new monitor core with a version of gmond that runs on Windows 2008 r2 as well. The ganglia web front end loses some of it's monitoring functionality when it can't monitor basic operating systems. Besides, it only makes sense to keep ALL of the basic components up to

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/12 19:59, Im Root wrote: We should also bundle the new monitor core with a version of gmond that runs on Windows 2008 r2 as well. The ganglia web front end loses some of it's monitoring functionality when it can't monitor basic operating systems. Besides, it only makes sense to keep

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
Sounds good. Let's call it 4.0.0. Who is gonna be the packager :-) ? Vladimir On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Daniel Pocock wrote: On 17/01/12 19:59, Im Root wrote: We should also bundle the new monitor core with a version of gmond that runs on Windows 2008 r2 as well. The ganglia web front end

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
I would like to politely correct Dan in that I was proposing the gmond fix as opposed to providing it. I seriously think that all of the new releases should be suspended until this critical bug has been addressed. It does crash systems. From: Daniel Pocock

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/12 20:40, Im Root wrote: I would like to politely correct Dan in that I was proposing the gmond fix as opposed to providing it. I seriously think that all of the new releases should be suspended until this critical bug has been addressed. It does crash systems. Ok, so maybe we can

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
Apparently gmond on W2008 crashes systems. I do not have any W2008 systems so can't test it. I would just note in release notes that Windows 2008 is not supported. That said I am not in favor of holding off the release. If someone wants to contribute Windows patches we can release that as

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
I can understand if obscure operating systems are overlooked, but it's quite disturbing that the ganglia development community doesn't care if the data collection module crashes Windows systems. Although I'm not condoning the spread of this awful operating system (ie Windows in any form), it's

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/12 21:17, Im Root wrote: I can understand if obscure operating systems are overlooked, but it's quite disturbing that the ganglia development community doesn't care if No one said they don't care - it's just that none of us are using that environment. If it is not something you are

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Nick Satterly
Fixing gmond should be bumped up to the highest priority. This is not critical because there is an entirely adequate work around. It's been mentioned before. Check out the host sflow agent. It works on every flavour of windows. --Nick. On 17 Jan 2012, at 20:26, Daniel Pocock

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
It's commendable that there has been a lot of effort with the web interface. However, if you can't monitor Windows, it's like building a Mercedes with only 3 wheels. Yes, it nice to look at but yet it's missing a very important component. From: Daniel Pocock

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
This needs to be included with the ganglia package then. Otherwise ganglia will become a hodge podge of miscellaneous open source junk (like openstack). Its kind of like building a Mercedes with 3 wheels and including a spare that's a bicycle wheel. It's nice to look at but still not quite

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Vladimir Vuksan
Point taken. Are you volunteering to fix it ? I don't think anyone is disagreeing with you. Where is this data collection module supplied btw ? Thanks, Vladimir On Tue, 17 Jan 2012, Im Root wrote: This needs to be included with the ganglia package then. Otherwise ganglia will become a

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Jeff Buchbinder
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 3:34 PM, Im Root imr...@rocketmail.com wrote: It's commendable that there has been a lot of effort with the web interface. However, if you can't monitor Windows, it's like building a Mercedes with only 3 wheels. Yes, it nice to look at but yet it's missing a very

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Im Root
I would be in agreement with the sentiments of the ganglia maintainers in that I too hate Windows. Unfortunately I'm stuck with it. From: Jeff Buchbinder rufustfire...@gmail.com To: Im Root imr...@rocketmail.com Cc: Daniel Pocock dan...@pocock.com.au;

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Jeff Buchbinder
On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Im Root imr...@rocketmail.com wrote: I would be in agreement with the sentiments of the ganglia maintainers in that I too hate Windows. Unfortunately I'm stuck with it. The appropriate windows solution would be to create a C# port of a gmond/pmond type service,

Re: [Ganglia-developers] Ganglia Web repo moved

2012-01-17 Thread Daniel Pocock
On 17/01/12 23:52, Jeff Buchbinder wrote: On Tue, Jan 17, 2012 at 5:29 PM, Im Root imr...@rocketmail.com wrote: I would be in agreement with the sentiments of the ganglia maintainers in that I too hate Windows. Unfortunately I'm stuck with it. The appropriate windows solution would be to