Re: [gentoo-user] Re: kde 4.2.1 sill pulling in 3.5 packages

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 07:16:03 James wrote: Avoiding having kde-3.5 stuff installed is exactly the same as avoiding having firefox installed - don't emerge it. Yep, I get it, manual_labor. I was looking for a silver bullet, so I can just auto prevent installing anything that

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 03:40:51 Stroller wrote: Every time you bottom post with more than a page or screenful of quoting, a top-posting is justified. Every time you find you have a screenful of quoted text you should just trim out the extraneous crap and return the mail to sanity. As I

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 23:37:50 laurent wrote: Hi, I need to clean disfiles or move it to /home/var/ftp/disfiles. For first is there a tool to emerge that will manage the distfiles. eclean - part of app-portage/gentoolkit If not I was thinking copy to

Re: [gentoo-user]

2009-03-25 Thread KH
Michael Sullivan schrieb: A week ago I got in a 1 TB external hard drive. I set it up for use with MythTV. It worked fine. So now I wanted to turn the old myth partition into my /home filesystem. I reformatted it (mke2fs -j /dev/sda6), I mounted it on /mnt/floppy and moved my directories

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:19:59 Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:33 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: A week ago I got in a 1 TB external hard drive. I set it up for use with MythTV. It worked

Re: [gentoo-user] rhythmbox is looking for an older shared object

2009-03-25 Thread dhk
Walter Dnes wrote: After a few more minutes of looking at the bug list, it appears that it's caused by the stable build being rusty. Given the references to lib64 in your output, I assume you're running on amd64. Is that correct? If so, a quick-n-dirty workaround might be to add the

[gentoo-user] A blog entry about gentoo

2009-03-25 Thread David
I wrote an entry in my blog about gentoo, and created a little script to make gentoo handling a bit easier, and whant to share it will all gentoo users to see if it could help them to understand gentoo better (specially for noob ones), and simplify its handling. I think it is not spam, since

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:49:57 -0500, Dale wrote: I don't mind top posting in private emails but not on the list. Who is it with that signature with the backward questions about top posting? This one? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally read text. Q: Why is top-posting

Re: [gentoo-user] A blog entry about gentoo

2009-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 11:38:53 +0100, David wrote: The link: http://stormbyte.blogspot.com/2009/03/gentoo-easy-handling.html Gentoo works with two kinds of software trees: the stable tree, and the unstable one; Not true, the two trees are stable and testing. Unstable software is generally

Re: [gentoo-user]

2009-03-25 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Wednesday 25 March 2009, KH wrote: Michael Sullivan schrieb: A week ago I got in a 1 TB external hard drive. I set it up for use with MythTV. It worked fine. So now I wanted to turn the old myth partition into my /home filesystem. I reformatted it (mke2fs -j /dev/sda6), I mounted

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:49:57 -0500, Dale wrote: I don't mind top posting in private emails but not on the list. Who is it with that signature with the backward questions about top posting? This one? A: Because it messes up the order in which people normally

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread James Skinner
Top-posting is totally fine when emailing from a mobile device. It does make it hard to follow a thread, but email's are time-stamped. On 3/25/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 22:49:57 -0500, Dale wrote: I don't mind top posting in private

Re: [gentoo-user] A blog entry about gentoo

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 12:38:53 David wrote: I wrote an entry in my blog about gentoo, and created a little script to make gentoo handling a bit easier, and whant to share it will all gentoo users to see if it could help them to understand gentoo better (specially for noob ones), and

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:17 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:19:59 Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:33 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: A week ago I got in

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread laurent
Dale a écrit : Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 23:37:50 laurent wrote: Hi, I need to clean disfiles or move it to /home/var/ftp/disfiles. For first is there a tool to emerge that will manage the distfiles. eclean - part of app-portage/gentoolkit

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread laurent
Alan McKinnon a écrit : On Tuesday 24 March 2009 23:37:50 laurent wrote: Hi, I need to clean disfiles or move it to /home/var/ftp/disfiles. For first is there a tool to emerge that will manage the distfiles. eclean - part of app-portage/gentoolkit If not I was thinking copy to

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:00:15 +0100, laurent wrote: yes it's exactly that, I did not choose the install partitionning. So I moved portage, www and now disfiles from /var to /home/var. For the other ones I did add a symlink also. Should I do that for disfiles? What do you mean by permissions

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:27:09 -0400, James Skinner wrote: Top-posting is totally fine when emailing from a mobile device. It does make it hard to follow a thread, but email's are time-stamped. It doesn't mater what device is used to send the email, it is the recipient that is affected by the

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:03:34 laurent wrote: But this is not a good idea, as distfiles will be owned by root or portage and it's in your home directory owned by you. drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 mar 24 20:19 home looks owned by root. /home is not your home directory. Out of

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread laurent
Alan McKinnon a écrit : On Wednesday 25 March 2009 14:03:34 laurent wrote: But this is not a good idea, as distfiles will be owned by root or portage and it's in your home directory owned by you. drwxr-xr-x 14 root root 4096 mar 24 20:19 home looks owned by root. /home is

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 11:08 +0100, KH wrote: Michael Sullivan schrieb: A week ago I got in a 1 TB external hard drive. I set it up for use with MythTV. It worked fine. So now I wanted to turn the old myth partition into my /home filesystem. I reformatted it (mke2fs -j /dev/sda6), I

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 10:17 +, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Tuesday 24 March 2009 20:19:59 Michael Sullivan wrote: On Tue, 2009-03-24 at 14:33 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: A week ago I got in a 1 TB external

[gentoo-user] Manifest is empty

2009-03-25 Thread laurent
Hi, Verifying ebuild manifests !!! Manifest is empty: '/home/portage/local/layman/ovh-overlay/app-admin/rtm/Manifest' I tried ebuild layman.ebuild manifest Appending / to PORTDIR_OVERLAY... '/root/layman.ebuild' does not exist. What should I do ? It's blocking my emarge world grrr thanks

Re: [gentoo-user] Manifest is empty

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 15:22:39 laurent wrote: Hi, Verifying ebuild manifests !!! Manifest is empty: '/home/portage/local/layman/ovh-overlay/app-admin/rtm/Manifest' I tried ebuild layman.ebuild manifest Appending / to PORTDIR_OVERLAY... '/root/layman.ebuild' does not exist.

Re: [gentoo-user] Manifest is empty

2009-03-25 Thread laurent
Alan McKinnon a écrit : On Wednesday 25 March 2009 15:22:39 laurent wrote: Hi, Verifying ebuild manifests !!! Manifest is empty: '/home/portage/local/layman/ovh-overlay/app-admin/rtm/Manifest' I tried ebuild layman.ebuild manifest Appending / to PORTDIR_OVERLAY... '/root/layman.ebuild'

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Momesso Andrea
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:14:14PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:27:09 -0400, James Skinner wrote: Top-posting is totally fine when emailing from a mobile device. It does make it hard to follow a thread, but email's are time-stamped. It doesn't mater what device is

[gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
I have discovered that the symbol font does not render reliably in browsers. Only one of my audience (of about a dozen people) could see the font properly, in a variety of browsers. The one who could is using Firefox, and I have not been able to determine what makes this one special -- I do not

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
... not sure what this really has to do with Gentoo specifically, but... Anyway I don't have a font called Symbol or any font alias called Symbol. I do, however, have a font called Wingdings, for example.

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 16:54:21 Momesso Andrea wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 12:14:14PM +, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 07:27:09 -0400, James Skinner wrote: Top-posting is totally fine when emailing from a mobile device. It does make it hard to follow a thread, but

[gentoo-user] Re: kde 4.2.1 sill pulling in 3.5 packages

2009-03-25 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I was looking for a silver bullet, so I can just auto prevent installing anything that uses kde 3 * In that case, I would find a convenient package.keywords in a kde overlay and symlink to it from /etc/portage/package.mask/

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I have discovered that the symbol font does not render reliably in browsers. Only one of my audience (of about a dozen people) could see the font properly, in a variety of browsers. The one who could is using Firefox,

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 16:54:21 Momesso Andrea wrote: Unfortunatly my BlackBerry doesn't allow bottom posting. I hope you guys forgive me for the few times I answer on this list using my mobile device. What?

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:16 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 16:54:21 Momesso Andrea wrote: Unfortunatly my BlackBerry doesn't allow bottom posting. I hope you guys

[gentoo-user] WARNING - sunstudioexpress-2009.03 crashes my system

2009-03-25 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi a warning to you all. Trying to emerge dev-lang/sunstudioexpress-2009.03 spawns infinitely many bach process until the system is dead! Has anybody else made this experience, as well? Helmut. -- Helmut Jarausch Lehrstuhl fuer Numerische Mathematik RWTH - Aachen University D 52056 Aachen,

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING - sunstudioexpress-2009.03 crashes my system

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi a warning to you all. Trying to emerge dev-lang/sunstudioexpress-2009.03 spawns infinitely many bach process until the system is dead! Has anybody else made this experience, as well? This sounds like

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING - sunstudioexpress-2009.03 crashes my system

2009-03-25 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Helmut Jarausch escreveu: Hi a warning to you all. Trying to emerge dev-lang/sunstudioexpress-2009.03 spawns infinitely many bach process until the system is dead! Has anybody else made this experience, as well? Helmut. I've already

Re: [gentoo-user] WARNING - sunstudioexpress-2009.03 crashes my system

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:43 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 10:25 AM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi a warning to you all. Trying to emerge dev-lang/sunstudioexpress-2009.03 spawns infinitely many bach process until

Re: [gentoo-user] Floorplan software for Linux?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 10:10 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Is there any usable 2D floorplan software for Linux? I'm not aware of anything specifically for floorplans. I think you might be able to get by with something like Kivio or other Visio clones.

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:15 AM, Albert Hopkins mar...@letterboxes.org wrote: ... not sure what this really has to do with Gentoo specifically, but... Anyway I don't have a font called Symbol or any font alias called Symbol.  I do, however, have a font called Wingdings, for example. The

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:02 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: I have discovered that the symbol font does not render reliably in browsers.  Only one of my audience (of about a dozen people) could see

Re: [gentoo-user] Floorplan software for Linux?

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 8:10 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Is there any usable 2D floorplan software for Linux? I've tried sweethome3d, but it seems to be missing a lot of very basic features. The 2D floorplan part of it doesn't seem to work very well (I don't care about the 3D

[gentoo-user] Re: Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Christer Ekholm
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com writes: Albert Hopkins wrote: Uh.. you don't disable it. You simply don't use the alias. Oh, OK. Dale waves hand over head. If it is set up to add that option, how do you tell it not to use it? You can type backslash before a alias to not use the alias. alias

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 17:16:51 Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 9:14 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 16:54:21 Momesso Andrea wrote: Unfortunatly my BlackBerry doesn't allow bottom posting. I hope you guys forgive me for the few

Re: [gentoo-user]

2009-03-25 Thread KH
Volker Armin Hemmann schrieb: On Wednesday 25 March 2009, KH wrote: Pleas try an name your mails. This maes it a lot easyer to support you an to ind answers if somebody is searching for the same problem in the futur. Subect could be: /home - gnome-settings-daemon has crashed kh

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:00:15 +0100 laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote: Another question about emerge -v world, I go a empty manifest on layman. What should I do to fix that ? cd /usr/local/portage/layman/someoverlay/some/package \ repoman manifest -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net

Re: [gentoo-user] cleaning disfiles

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:33:58 +0100 laurent laur...@logiquefloue.org wrote: But your real problem is a stupid original disk layout. Why don;t you decide to fix that instead of getting into cute tricks with symlinks? Because I let my server host install it with their default disk layout.

[gentoo-user] Re: Floorplan software for Linux?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-25, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Is there any usable 2D floorplan software for Linux? I've tried sweethome3d, but it seems to be missing a lot of very basic features. The 2D floorplan part of it doesn't seem to work very well (I don't care about the 3D stuff). Some

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:38 AM, Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:50 AM, Paul Hartman 1. Symbol is not a defined CSS font family. Your choices are: serif, sans-serif, cursive, fantasy, monospace. I've changed the CSS to use the font-family property which

Re: [gentoo-user] Browsers not seeing symbol font

2009-03-25 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Wed, 25 Mar 2009 09:38:31 -0700 Kevin O'Gorman kogor...@gmail.com wrote: 2. Character encodings are easy: use Unicode. :) http://www.unicode.org/charts/symbols.html Yes they're easy. My question is about whether they have any effect on use of Symbol So far I see no evidence of it.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Floorplan software for Linux?

2009-03-25 Thread Mark Knecht
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-03-25, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: SNIP I have a latptop that's set up to dual boot Gentoo and XP. In the past I booted into XP to run one or two apps (mostly HR Block Tax Cut).  The NTFS partition is

[gentoo-user] Re: Floorplan software for Linux?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-25, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.fs-driver.org/ Cool, I'll have to remember that. I like the vmware solution better though as I can use Windows from within Gentoo. It's fun to see a complete Windows desktop in a window, but it has it's problems also. Overall

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Michael Sullivan wrote: I did originally, but as I had to send it three different times and my message body wouldn't copy and paste correctly, I guess one went through that didn't have a subject line. It would help if gmail would show me the mails that I send in to mailing lists...

Re: [gentoo-user] start X at startup without a login manager

2009-03-25 Thread Mick
On Friday 20 March 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM, fei huang daniel.huang...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any xdm, gdm stuff but would like to start my windows manager directly at startup, cause I'm the only one that use it. I agree with Sebastian, you should

Re: [gentoo-user] start X at startup without a login manager

2009-03-25 Thread Sebastian Günther
* Mick (michaelkintz...@gmail.com) [25.03.09 21:04]: On Friday 20 March 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM, fei huang daniel.huang...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any xdm, gdm stuff but would like to start my windows manager directly at startup, cause I'm the

Re: [gentoo-user] start X at startup without a login manager

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 3:03 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Friday 20 March 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 10:09 AM, fei huang daniel.huang...@gmail.com wrote: I don't have any xdm, gdm stuff but would like to start my windows manager directly at startup,

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I did originally, but as I had to send it three different times and my message body wouldn't copy and paste correctly, I guess one went through that didn't have a subject line. It would help if gmail

[gentoo-user] layman: could not connect to server

2009-03-25 Thread Nicolai Beuermann
Hello, I've got a problem concerning syncing of some overlays with layman: layman -s vmware * Running command /usr/bin/svn up /usr/local/portage/layman/vmware... svn: OPTIONS of 'http://overlays.gentoo.org/svn/proj/vmware/trunk': could not connect to server (http://overlays.gentoo.org) * *

[gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Thanasis
Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse?

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread KH
Thanasis schrieb: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse? Hi, Tux is on vacation for 2.6.29 He will be back in some month. Tuz is a animal which

[gentoo-user] Re: linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Thanasis wrote: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse? http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_itempx=NzE1MA

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Daniel Pielmeier
Thanasis schrieb am 25.03.2009 21:50: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse? http://www.linuxjournal.com/content/tux-takes-tasmanian-vacation Regards,

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 2:32 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I did originally, but as I had to send it three different times and my message body wouldn't copy and paste correctly, I guess one went through that didn't have a subject

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:50:46 Thanasis wrote: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse? It's not a mouse, it's a Tasmanian Devil which isn't a rodent

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on? - snippage

2009-03-25 Thread Stroller
On 25 Mar 2009, at 07:06, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 03:40:51 Stroller wrote: Every time you bottom post with more than a page or screenful of quoting, a top-posting is justified. Every time you find you have a screenful of quoted text you should just trim out the

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on? - snippage

2009-03-25 Thread AllenJB
Can you ALL please take this off-topic conversation off list. This is a general support list used by many users of a wide range of experience, therefore you can not expect to be able to enforce any standards, either way. In addition, please keep language clean on this list. AllenJB

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Graham Murray
Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: There are many devices and webmail services that do quoting in the Microsoft Outlook style -- putting a one-line divider between the reply and the original message. No indentation or nesting of replies. This makes it harder to reply to

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Thanasis
on 03/25/2009 11:04 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:50:46 Thanasis wrote: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they substitute the penguin with this ugly disguised mouse?

[gentoo-user] How to configure a recent X11 ?

2009-03-25 Thread Helmut Jarausch
Hi, one reads at several places that 'xorg.conf' is dead we now have to write hal-fdi-policy files. Especially after upgrading xorg-server X11 doesn't come up anymore since there is a race condition between hal and xorg. Does anybody know of a transition guide on how to write xorg.conf together

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on? - snippage

2009-03-25 Thread Roy Wright
AllenJB wrote: Can you ALL please take this off-topic conversation off list. +1 In addition, please keep language clean on this list. +1 Well said.

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a email to this list, I don't get a copy back. I have a copy in my sent box but not a copy that comes back from the list. I view this list threaded so it can

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 23:51:30 Thanasis wrote: on 03/25/2009 11:04 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:50:46 Thanasis wrote: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they

[gentoo-user] How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
How do you get a plain ascii file (no backspacing, no escape sequences) out of man? Running it through col or colcrt doesn't work anymore, because the default output contains ANSI color escape sequences. grotty apparently outputs ANSI color escape sequences regardless of whether or not the

Re: [gentoo-user] How to configure a recent X11 ?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:53 PM, Helmut Jarausch jarau...@igpm.rwth-aachen.de wrote: Hi, one reads at several places that 'xorg.conf' is dead we now have to write hal-fdi-policy files. Especially after upgrading xorg-server X11 doesn't come up anymore since there is a race condition between

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-25, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: How do you get a plain ascii file (no backspacing, no escape sequences) out of man? I know I can always drop down 2 levels and do somthing like this: bzcat /usr/share/man/bash.1.bz2 | troff -Tascii -mandoc | grotty -bcu man.txt But, I'm

Re: [gentoo-user] How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: How do you get a plain ascii file (no backspacing, no escape sequences) out of man? Running it through col or colcrt doesn't work anymore, because the default output contains ANSI color escape sequences. grotty apparently

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-25, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: How do you get a plain ascii file (no backspacing, no escape sequences) out of man? Running it through col or colcrt doesn't work anymore, because the default

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:44 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-03-25, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 5:12 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: How do you get a plain ascii file (no backspacing, no escape sequences) out of man?

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Michael Sullivan
On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 16:56 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a email to this list, I don't get a copy back. I have a copy in my sent box but not a copy that comes

Re: [gentoo-user] linux boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources

2009-03-25 Thread Jerry McBride
On Wednesday 25 March 2009 05:51:30 pm Thanasis wrote: on 03/25/2009 11:04 PM Alan McKinnon wrote the following: On Wednesday 25 March 2009 22:50:46 Thanasis wrote: Has anyone seen the boot logo in 2.6.29-gentoo sources? usr/src/linux/drivers/video/logo/logo_linux_vga16.ppm Why did they

Re: [gentoo-user] Time to move on?

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Graham Murray wrote: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com writes: There are many devices and webmail services that do quoting in the Microsoft Outlook style -- putting a one-line divider between the reply and the original message. No indentation or nesting of replies. This makes it

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a email to this list, I don't get a copy back. I have a copy in my sent box but not a copy that comes back from the list. I view this

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Michael Sullivan wrote: My problem is that I'm never sure if my emails actually get to the list. If I send a question in and don't get it back, and nobody responds to it, what else am I supposed to assume, except that my original post got lost somewhere on the Internet... I ran into

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 7:46 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I have searched the net, asked on this list a while back and nothing disabled the spam filter on google. I tried several different ways but none of them stops google from marking them as spam. I think they know people are

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 16:56 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell, when I send a email to this list, I

[gentoo-user] Re: How to get plain ascii from man?

2009-03-25 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-03-25, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: Edit /etc/man.conf and add -c to the commandline for TROFF, NROFF and JNROFF. Then man program | col -bf or your method of choice should work. There is a note in the man.conf comments about it. That didn't work for me. Does it work for

[gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-25 Thread Tom
Hi I had a very un-nice evening, trying to get my system back into a usable state, which I eventually managed, but that is another story. It made me realise I need a way to be able to use my cdrom drive to boot cds. Let me explain before you say 'huuhh!?' I bought a new dvdwriter a couple of

Re: [gentoo-user] [SHOULD BE gnome-settings-daemon failed]

2009-03-25 Thread Dale
Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 6:33 PM, Michael Sullivan msulli1...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 2009-03-25 at 16:56 -0500, Paul Hartman wrote: gOn Wed, Mar 25, 2009 at 4:01 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: I sort of covered this a while ago but in a nutshell,

Re: [gentoo-user] Boot via floppy from cdrom

2009-03-25 Thread Albert Hopkins
Why wast your time with floppies? Boot from a USB stick that has plenty of storage on it for kernels and drivers.