Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Kevin Monceaux writes: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> -> Updating weekly, as I used to do is a Good Idea, Agreed. > > Sounds like a good idea. I update anywhere from daily to a few times a > week. Every once in a while I loose track

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-18 Thread lee
Grant Edwards writes: > On 2016-12-08, Kevin Monceaux wrote: >> On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: >> >>> --> X11 would probably need to be shut down two which is equivalent to a >>> reboot on a desktop system anyway. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-10 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 10:42:51PM -0600, Kevin Monceaux wrote > > I'm old fashioned. I use text based apps as much as possible. > I'm using mutt and vim to compose this e-mail, for example. They're > running under screen, which is running in an rxvt-unicode terminal > under dwm. I could

[gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-10 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-12-10, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 07:41:51PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > >> I think he meant that from a "desktop productivity" standpoint, the >> two are the same: you have to close every single program you are using >> and then start over.

[gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-09 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Fri, Dec 09, 2016 at 07:41:51PM +, Grant Edwards wrote: > I think he meant that from a "desktop productivity" standpoint, the > two are the same: you have to close every single program you are using > and then start over. I'm old fashioned. I use text based apps as much as possible.

[gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-09 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-12-08, Kevin Monceaux wrote: > On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > >> --> X11 would probably need to be shut down two which is equivalent to a >> reboot on a desktop system anyway. > > Shutting down X11 doesn't appear to be equivalent to a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-08 Thread Alan Grimes
Kevin Monceaux wrote: > Shutting down X11 doesn't appear to be equivalent to a reboot on my > desktop. > If I shut down X11, my uptime still keeps accumulating. > > I'm way overdue for a reboot to switch to a newer kernel. It's been 83 days > since my last reboot. I've built a couple of new

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-08 Thread Kevin Monceaux
On Wed, Dec 07, 2016 at 06:42:21PM -0500, Alan Grimes wrote: > -> Updating weekly, as I used to do is a Good Idea, Agreed. Sounds like a good idea. I update anywhere from daily to a few times a week. Every once in a while I loose track of the time and go a week or so between updates. A "long

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Alan McKinnon
On 08/12/2016 01:59, Alan Grimes wrote: > Mick wrote: >> 2. If problems show up, forget the script and use 'emerge -avuND world' as >> Mr. >> McKinnon suggested. In most cases this will resolve any conflicts on its >> own. >> You could add '--backtrack=90' if there are unresolved conflicts

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Alan Grimes
Mick wrote: > 2. If problems show up, forget the script and use 'emerge -avuND world' as > Mr. > McKinnon suggested. In most cases this will resolve any conflicts on its > own. > You could add '--backtrack=90' if there are unresolved conflicts to get > portage > to try harder. =\ I do

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Alan Grimes
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-12-07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> Your problem is that the box seems to have not been updated in a >> long while. That is always tricky. > That's putting it mildly. Gentoo works far, far better if you update > frequently. On most systems I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Andrej Rode
Hey there, > > IMO, if you only want to update a system once or twice a year, Gentoo > is not a good choice What really helps is not to pollute your world file with crap you installed just for fun or you are not using anymore. A while ago I started organizing my configuration in various sets in

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 07 Dec 2016 21:20:27 Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2016-12-07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > Your problem is that the box seems to have not been updated in a > > long while. That is always tricky. > > That's putting it mildly. Gentoo works far, far better if you

[gentoo-user] Re: Well, I went about updating my system again. (day 6)

2016-12-07 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2016-12-07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Your problem is that the box seems to have not been updated in a > long while. That is always tricky. That's putting it mildly. Gentoo works far, far better if you update frequently. On most systems I update a couple times a week.