Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-10 Thread Dale
William Kenworthy wrote: > > On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote: >> the...@sys-concept.com wrote: >>> >>> Thelma >>> >>> On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-10 Thread William Kenworthy
On 11/11/23 05:15, Dale wrote: the...@sys-concept.com wrote: Thelma On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-10 Thread Dale
the...@sys-concept.com wrote: > > > Thelma > > On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: >> Howdy, >> >> This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if >> nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price >> of everything went up but some things are getting more

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-10 Thread thelma
Thelma On 9/17/23 23:17, Dale wrote: Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My first task, a case.  At this point, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-10 Thread Jude DaShiell
On one computer I had it came with an Alien ATX case. If memory serves that one had a top fan. The only thing I didn't like about that case was not enough slots for two drive sleds in addition to the dvd burner. Only one sled could be accommodated. -- Jude "There are four boxes to be used in

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-11-09 Thread Dale
Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if > nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price > of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My > first task, a case.  At this point, I may build a new system

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Well, you can, but they don't fit on a tweet. Just my really long emails... > > We're not their target demographic in any case. Now, if Dale wanted > more RGB lights and transparent water hoses, and not more PCIe slots, > the market would be happy to supply... > That

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > No, the chipset downlink is always four lanes wide. The diagram you linked has 8, but I can't vouch for its accuracy. Haven't looked into it for AM4. > > Again, that

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > > > any modern AMD motherboards have any kind of PCIe controller on them. > > > > Here are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > > any modern AMD motherboards have

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > Well they allow you to put larger cards in, but they don’t have the lanes > > for it. Somewhere else in the thread was mentioned that the number of lanes > > is very limited. Only the main slot (the big one for the GPU) is

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit > (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. No real "reason" for it besides branding/naming/etc. They could have called it a MPU for Mixed Processing Unit if they

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 04:43:02AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Wols Lists wrote: > > Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, you can combine a video card and > > an AGPU. BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. > I been on Newegg using

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Dale wrote: > > I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature. Just to get rough > ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4. Yea, I > did a copy and paste. lol It's a bit pricey but compared to my current > rig, I think it will run

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:43:02 BST Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: > >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ > >>> (which is > >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad > >>> experience > >>> in

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ >>> (which is >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad >>> experience >>> in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/2023 11:13, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: With so many drives, you should also include a pricey power supply. And/or a server board which supports staggered spin-up. Also, drives of the home NAS category (and consumer drives anyways) are only certified for operation in groups of up to

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 01:01:42AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > They have added a lot of stuff to mobos since I bought one about a > decade ago.  Maybe things have improved.  I just like PCIe slots and > cards.  Gives me more options. I definitely know the feeling. That is why I went with µATX instead

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/2023 12:16, Rich Freeman wrote: This is part of why I like storage implementations that have more robustness built into the software. Granted, it is still only as good as your clients, but with distributed storage I really don't want to be paying for ECC on all of my nodes. If the

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ (which is not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad experience in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by gamers and number crunchers. On-board graphics

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
On a previous computer, I had an Alien ATX case. The one drawback with that case was only one drive slot for a DVD drive. I prefer computer cases with a few more than that so internal drive sleds can be installed. When onboard cards break, if you have spare pci slots available and spare cash you

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 06:40:52PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I tend to need quite a few PCIe slots.  I like to have my own video card.  I never liked the built in ones. >>> You’re just asking to be asked. ;-) Why don’t you like them? (I fear I may >>> have asked

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 06:40:52PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> I tend to need quite a few PCIe slots.  I like to have my own video > >> card.  I never liked the built in ones. > > You’re just asking to be asked. ;-) Why don’t you like them? (I fear I may > > have asked that before). > > > > I get

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:20:56PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > […] The downside, only micro ATX and mini ITX mobo.  This is a serious down vote here. >>> Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten >>> drives, >>> you only need one

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:20:56PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > >> […] > >> The downside, only micro ATX and > >> mini ITX mobo.  This is a serious down vote here. > > Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten > > drives, > > you only need one SATA expander (with four or six

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 02:59:22PM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > I have a four-bay NAS with server board (ASRock Rack E3C224D2I), actually my > > last surviving Gentoo system. ;-) With IPMI-Chip (which alone takes several > > watts), 16 GiB DDR3-ECC, an i3-4170 and 4×6 TB, it draws around

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> Howdy, >> […] >> I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go >> with this.  One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would >> make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 9:02 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > because a NIC is going to need a

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 07:16:17AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > > […] > > > The downside, only micro ATX and > > > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 6:13 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > > […] > > The downside, only micro ATX and > > mini ITX mobo. This is a serious down vote here. > > Why is that bad? µATX comes with up to four PCIe slots. Even for ten drives,

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-18 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 12:17:20AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Howdy, > […] > I've found a few cases that peak my interest depending on which way I go > with this.  One I found that has a lot of hard drive space and would > make a descent NAS box, the Fractal Design Node 804.  It's a cube shaped > thing

[gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-17 Thread Dale
Howdy, This is a work in progress and may take some time, financially if nothing else.  With hindsight, I wish I had done this before the price of everything went up but some things are getting more reasonable. My first task, a case.  At this point, I may build a new system in the new case, or, I

Re: [gentoo-user]Computer build, was PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Thu, Mar 16, 2023 at 6:01 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Gamer boards tend to skimp on ports, because those people generally care > mostly for their GPU (plus design and RGB). Well, that, and the CPU only has so many PCIe lanes and adding ports beyond that requires a switch. Also, if they

Re: [gentoo-user]Computer build, was PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-16 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 05:36:16PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > If you want to save money and aim for a low-cost AMD APU (processor with > > integrated graphics), you can get an older 3000-series Ryzen for a > > two-digit > > price. It’ll still be much faster than your

Re: [gentoo-user]Computer build, was PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-03-15 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Wed, Mar 15, 2023 at 07:45:25AM -0500 schrieb Dale: >> Mark Knecht wrote: Another question.  My rig is getting a bit aged.  I have a AMD FX-8350 8 core CPU running at 4GHz.  I also have 32GBs of memory.  I've read that Intel currently has the best bang

[SOLVED] Re: [gentoo-user] Computer keeps crashing during boot, need dmesg

2018-07-22 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 20/07/18 21:31, Andrew Lowe wrote: > On 20/07/18 21:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: >> Hi all, >> I'm having all sorts of trouble getting a new computer to boot. I have > > [snip] > >> >> VFS: Mounted root (jfs filesystem) readonly on device 8:19. >> > > Forgot to add, in the new nvme

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer keeps crashing during boot, need dmesg

2018-07-20 Thread Andrew Lowe
On 20/07/18 21:26, Andrew Lowe wrote: > Hi all, > I'm having all sorts of trouble getting a new computer to boot. I have [snip] > > VFS: Mounted root (jfs filesystem) readonly on device 8:19. > Forgot to add, in the new nvme config, jfs is a built in driver. Has anyone heard of

[gentoo-user] Computer keeps crashing during boot, need dmesg

2018-07-20 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, I'm having all sorts of trouble getting a new computer to boot. I have two NVME thingies in it with one containing Win10 and the other, eventually, Gentoo. I use Refind to control the booting with the machine using UEFI. The graphical front end to Refind boots fine and

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? Maybe. I have a problem like that when using high processing simulation with nvidia-cuda and the power supply

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Joseph
On 05/23/15 18:08, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? Maybe. I have a problem like that when using high processing simulation with

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Joseph
On 05/23/15 18:08, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? Maybe. I have a problem like that when using high processing simulation with

[gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Joseph
I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? -- Joseph

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Mick
On Saturday 23 May 2015 23:53:32 Joseph wrote: On 05/23/15 18:08, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? Maybe. I have a problem

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer turn itself off

2015-05-23 Thread Zhu Sha Zang
On 05/23/2015 06:53 PM, Joseph wrote: On 05/23/15 18:08, Zhu Sha Zang wrote: On 05/23/2015 05:24 PM, Joseph wrote: I have a box in a remote location (8-core CPU) and it turn itself off during compiling The box it connected to UPS. Is it power supply? Maybe. I have a problem like that when

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-02-01 Thread Meino . Cramer
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-02-01 10:04]: On 01/31/15 23:42, Dale wrote: [snip] Hi Joseph, may be only a accidental coincidence... One thing I can think of is an empty bios coin cell. If that battery is flat, the bios will complain settings are gone. Why would that cause grub to

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading stage2 and computer goes back

[gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Joseph
After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading stage2 and computer goes back reboot cycle, flash bios and the same massage is displayed. What went wrong during

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Meino . Cramer
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading stage2 and computer goes back reboot cycle, flash bios and

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Joseph
On 01/31/15 11:59, Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading stage2

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: On 01/31/15 11:59, Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Meino . Cramer
Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 19:32]: On 01/31/15 11:59, Dale wrote: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message:

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 1 February 2015 05:41:36 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org [15-02-01 05:40]: On 31 January 2015 18:50:19 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread J. Roeleveld
On 31 January 2015 18:50:19 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is message: Loading operating system ... GRUB loading

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Dale
Joseph wrote: On 01/31/15 23:42, Dale wrote: [snip] Hi Joseph, may be only a accidental coincidence... One thing I can think of is an empty bios coin cell. If that battery is flat, the bios will complain settings are gone. Why would that cause grub to fail? Dont know the reason...I only

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Dale
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org [15-02-01 05:40]: On 31 January 2015 18:50:19 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Joseph
On 01/31/15 23:42, Dale wrote: [snip] Hi Joseph, may be only a accidental coincidence... One thing I can think of is an empty bios coin cell. If that battery is flat, the bios will complain settings are gone. Why would that cause grub to fail? Dont know the reason...I only experienced it

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread Meino . Cramer
J. Roeleveld jo...@antarean.org [15-02-01 05:40]: On 31 January 2015 18:50:19 CET, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Joseph syscon...@gmail.com [15-01-31 18:12]: After recent upgrade my computer doesn't want to boot. I did not do anything with grub or kernel. I get a bios flash and next is

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer does not boot

2015-01-31 Thread wabenbau
Am Samstag, 31.01.2015 um 22:59 schrieb Joseph syscon...@gmail.com: Is there a way to backup bios setting to a text file etc.; beside special Windows utility? At least none of my mainboards has such a feature. You could search in your mainboard manual about that. Another way to save your BIOS

Re: [gentoo-user] computer:///

2005-11-13 Thread Peter De Zutter
Hi, there is a way to achieve what you want, if you want links to mounted partitions in 'computer:///' all you have to do is use 'Connect to server' and select Custom Location, then fill in the directory where you've mounted your partition and give a name. Once that's done you will see a link to