On 7/8/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The problem is if you focus on usability for newbies, you'll focus
less on features and customization, or you'll have to find a way to
hide this customizability because customization confuses newbies, and
spending time dancing around the lesser
On Thursday 05 July 2007 02:40, Walter Dnes wrote:
I use Gentoo precisely because it's easy. I am not a programmer, and
cannot do a manual project. I rely on others' makefiles. My
programming expertise consists of...
[snip . . .]
I echo Walter's comments on my use of Gentoo. However, I
Jerry McBride wrote:
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:13:59 pm Philip Webb wrote:
070704 Colleen Beamer wrote:
Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
looking for.. I am
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
emerge is along the same lines. make menuconfig is the limits of my
expertise. I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
RPM package for a program I wanted, where the developer hadn't linked it
against a bunch of
On 7/5/07, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
emerge is along the same lines. make menuconfig is the limits of my
expertise. I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
RPM package for a program I wanted, where
On 7/5/07, Paul Waring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, Jul 04, 2007 at 09:40:10PM -0400, Walter Dnes wrote:
emerge is along the same lines. make menuconfig is the limits of my
expertise. I remember RPM hell with Redhat linux, trying to find an
RPM package for a program I wanted, where
On 7/4/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
blatant bias
I
On Tue, Jul 03, 2007 at 09:07:24AM -0700, Grant wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
looking for.. I am looking for a distro to have one fun and learn.
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On Tuesday 03 July 2007 09:07:24 Grant wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
Is
Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
looking for.. I am looking for a distro to have one fun and learn.
I second this sentiment. Since starting to use Gentoo in 2004,
070704 Colleen Beamer wrote:
Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
looking for.. I am looking for a distro to have one fun and learn.
I second this sentiment. Since
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:13:59 pm Philip Webb wrote:
070704 Colleen Beamer wrote:
Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
looking for.. I am looking for a distro to
Jerry McBride wrote:
On Wednesday 04 July 2007 08:13:59 pm Philip Webb wrote:
070704 Colleen Beamer wrote:
Danyelle Gragsone wrote:
If gentoo became an *easy* distro like sickbayon or ubuntu.. I would
stop using it. Seriously.. user friendly distros is not what I am
On 7/3/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
Is everyone
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
Is everyone still toeing that line? The Gentoo Weekly
On 7/3/07, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes
when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I
have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other
meta-distro out there? It's
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote:
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes
when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I
have to find a new distro, where will I go? Is Debian the only other
meta-distro out there? It's
Hello Grant,
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
What decline in the number of users? Where
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 19:41:34 +0200
Thierry de Coulon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if
the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason.
Thierry
It is nothing of that kind. These, simply, is not the Sabayon list, but the
Gentoo
On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Grant wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
no.
gentoo was
On Tue, 3 Jul 2007 09:07:24 -0700
Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a
Grant wrote:
In December 2006 I started a thread titled Is Gentoo Healthy? in
which I was roundly put down for raising the possibility that the
decline in the number of Gentoo users could possibly affect the
remaining Gentoo users in a negative way.
Is everyone still toeing that line? The
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:41:34 Thierry de Coulon wrote:
I'm surprised I haven't heard more about Sabayon on this list, just as if
the real Gentoo users feel it's a treason.
Not treason. Just inferior, leechers and off-topic...
--
Bo Andresen
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On Dienstag, 3. Juli 2007, Thierry de Coulon wrote:
On Tuesday 03 July 2007 19:14, Grant wrote:
Hey Mark,
Thanks for the insight. I hope it never happens, but if the day comes
when Gentoo suffers a lack of contributors to such an extent that I
have to find a new distro, where will I
I think gentoo is stuck with the release of new tools, new ideas..
I've been worried about the Weekly Newsletter too, but you only have
to read planet.gentoo.org to see that the wheel stills moving on, and
stills healthy. I think there's a lot more gentoo for the years to
come.
On 7/3/07, Grant
On Friday 22 December 2006 10:06, Neil Bothwick wrote:
A bin package is equally cumbersome. You will very quickly consume huge
amounts of disk space - at least equal to all the current packages on
the system plus old ones that were updated.
Maybe, but they do provide an extremely useful
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:47:04 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Maybe, but they do provide an extremely useful fallback, especially
for those of us running ~arch systems. Being able to roll back to an
older, working version in seconds rather than minutes or hours is a
definite benefit.
On Saturday 23 December 2006 08:44, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?':
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:47:04 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Maybe, but they do provide an extremely useful fallback, especially
for those of us running ~arch systems
On Saturday 23 December 2006 15:44, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Sat, 23 Dec 2006 12:47:04 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
Maybe, but they do provide an extremely useful fallback, especially
for those of us running ~arch systems. Being able to roll back to an
older, working version in
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It means
you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case an ebuild
leaves the tree. Any custom changes you make to the tree are wiped out
with the next
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095
Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gentoo lists, although the problem
seems less than
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:06, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 09:16:10 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
I can't believe you are advocating either of those solutions. It
means you retain 500M worth of tgz'ed portage tree for just in case
an ebuild leaves the tree. Any custom changes
On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject:
http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/175964/focus=176095
Possibly, I'm still missing mails from Gentoo
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 11:35:58 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Except it's not 500MB, as you'll see by looking at the snapshots
directory on any Gentoo mirror. Of course, the fact that portage
trees for the last couple of weeks are nicely tarred up on all the
Gentoo mirrors makes this process
On Friday 22 December 2006 11:40, Jeff Rollin wrote:
On 22/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 02:10:58 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
I'm starting to wonder if you missed this mail on the subject:
It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot of
people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...].
For some unknown reasons that mails are dropped and never delivered. And no,
the spam filters are not part of the problem.
--
OK, sorry.
On Friday 22 December 2006 12:36, Jeff Rollin wrote:
It is a known problem, discussed in its own bug and on gentoo-dev. A lot
of people (like me), don't get all the mails sent to
gentoo-[user,dev,amd64...]. For some unknown reasons that mails are
dropped and never delivered. And no, the
Mark Knecht wrote:
if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable
location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not
worried about,
But then, one day, you'll see that you've pruned something you
shouldn't have, something that one of the things you did keep needs
as a
Alan McKinnon wrote:
Any custom changes you make to
the tree are wiped out with the next --sync anyway,
Who is talking about making custom changes? Who would make such
changes to the main /usr/portage tree anyway? We're talking about
a simple user here, no extras, no frills, no adaptations.
On Fri, 22 Dec 2006 16:45:40 +0100, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
if binary packages were built and stored in some reasonable
location then I could probably prune out things that I'm not
worried about,
They are stored wherever you tell portage to store them.
But then, one day, you'll see
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 11:39:23 -0800, Mark Knecht wrote:
You could, as soon as you have a system in a working state, tar up
the entire /usr/portage tree,
Yes, I think this is a simple answer. A bit difficult for 5-7 machines
if I do it separately for each, but not too bad.
There's no need
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:18:23 -0700, Steve Dibb wrote:
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that
would like to (voluntarily) let us know what systems Gentoo is being
used on.
Wasn't there a similar
On Thu, 21 Dec 2006 02:03:26 +0300, Bryan Østergaard [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 12:16:04PM +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
Is the non-profit organization side of Gentoo healthy? My brief Google
session does not reveal anything that suggests it is not, but if
somebody
On 21/12/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The risk that the user might nuke the partitions containing Windows is
always there regardless of what distro you use. You still make the same
decisions, fdisk, cfdisk and gparted are still there. Whether you click
here, click OK then say
Jeff Rollin wrote:
On 21/12/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The risk that the user might nuke the partitions containing Windows is
always there regardless of what distro you use. You still make the same
decisions, fdisk, cfdisk and gparted are still there. Whether you click
here,
On 21/12/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All things considered, Mandrake is easier to install than windoze any
day. You think about it, you set up the drives, select ALL the software
you can fit and hit the install button. How easy is that? You only
have to reboot once too. I counted six
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Rollin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 21 December 2006 16:12
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?
On 21/12/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All things considered, Mandrake is easier to install than
On 21/12/06, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
All things considered, Mandrake is easier to install than
windoze any
day. You think about it, you set up the drives, select ALL
the software
you can fit and hit the install button. How easy is that? You only
have to
On Thu, Dec 21, 2006 at 12:00:28PM +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
As for my definition of healthy, it is simple: a healthy organization is
not likely to quit its activities, mainly due to financial problems, in
the next 10 years. If the likely is to be defined, then a healthy
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:09, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay
what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I
don't know it will be removed until it's been removed.
You could,
On Thursday 21 December 2006 22:28, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
The best way, of course, is to use the binary package thing. Mark:
add EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS=-b to your /etc/make.conf.
Heh, that's FEATURES=buildpkg.
--
Bo Andresen
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On 12/21/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Alan McKinnon wrote:
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:09, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay
what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I
don't know
On Friday 22 December 2006 01:26, Mark Knecht wrote:
I wonder if -b could be put in one of the /etc/portage/package.XXX
files so that it could be done every time for ejust specific packages?
That doesn't seem to work (because the FEATURES and EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS vars
are checked on the python
On Thursday 21 December 2006 09:54, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 12:18:23 -0700, Steve Dibb wrote:
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that
would like to (voluntarily) let us know what systems
On Thursday 21 December 2006 23:28, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
But he can't: the ebuild is gone. That is the case we're trying to
solve here: he has emerged a newer version of a package, finds it
doesn't work correctly, wants to go back to the previous version,
but seess that that version is
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:23:25 +0300, Colleen Beamer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I, for one, would be devastated without Gentoo!
I looked deep into myself and found that possibly it is fear that drives
this thread. Am I not the only one with the impresion that for the last 10
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time server,
they can get a good estimate of the number of users from the
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 17:58:50 -0800, Grant wrote:
Can we agree that active developers are good for Gentoo,
Yes
and the more the better?
If they are co-operating or working on separate projects, not if they are
competing and flaming.
I think other posters to this thread may be trying to
On 20 December 2006 11:43, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
;-)
Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time server,
they
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 03:43, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?':
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
Damn you. I
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 04:46, Uwe Thiem [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?':
On 20 December 2006 11:43, Neil Bothwick wrote:
Or do what Ubuntu did and default all installs to use their time
server, they can get a good estimate of the number of users
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 12:11, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
Damn you. I actually searched for that package. :P
As long as it is voluntary, I generally install programs that
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:11:13 -0600, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote:
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
Damn you. I actually searched for that package. :P
LOL!
As long as it is voluntary, I generally install programs that allows me
to report my hardware and software
Can we agree that active developers are good for Gentoo,
Yes
and the more the better?
If they are co-operating or working on separate projects, not if they are
competing and flaming.
I think other posters to this thread may be trying to compile a
similar set of statistics, but I'll just
On 20/12/06, Andrey Gerasimenko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 05:23:25 +0300, Colleen Beamer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I, for one, would be devastated without Gentoo!
I looked deep into myself and found that possibly it is fear that drives
this thread. Am I not the
Hi,
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 06:07:50 -0800 Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Number of users is largely irrelevant, it's not as if Gentoo needs a
number of customers to survive, it is a non-profit organisation
producing free products.
That's exactly the argument here, and the point of creating
On 19/12/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:18:19 +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
On 18/12/06, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may, but you are confusing cause and effect. A distro with more
developers should be a better distro, and should have more users.
Just getting around to reading this 59 post. Thread. Interesting. Thanks!
On 12/18/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 10:54:06 -0800, Grant wrote:
I'm thinking this over a bit more, and it seems like the best thing
for Gentoo (or any distro) is a lot of users.
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:56, Mark Knecht wrote:
I agree again. The ONLY problem I'm having with Gentoo is the devs
removing older revs of things from portage. (ati-drivers, MythTV,
etc.)
In cases like that, you use portage overlays. Then the ebuild will
always be there until *you*
Gentoo - being different as it is - a metadistro, is by far the most
easy to mantain and support installs I've ever used. Most, if not all,
problems usually exist because some companies still relay in a single
distro specific behavior (companies that do not see the big
picture), the rest is pure
Hi Alan
On 12/20/06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 16:56, Mark Knecht wrote:
I agree again. The ONLY problem I'm having with Gentoo is the devs
removing older revs of things from portage. (ati-drivers, MythTV,
etc.)
In cases like that, you use portage
Hi folks
-Original Message-
From: Mark Knecht [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 20 December 2006 17:16
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo healthy?
- snip snip -
The problem with this view of overlays has been that I do an eix-sync
and find
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:16, Mark Knecht wrote:
[SNIP]
I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the
web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The
problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type,
it's a bit beyond
On 12/20/06, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the
web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The
problem is for a user type like me, and yes, I'm *purely* a user type,
it's a bit
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:28, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) wrote:
Is there, or could there be, a method for giving say 7 days notice for when
an ebuild is going to be removed?
When we are talking about old ebuilds being removed in favour of newer
available ebuilds this just isn't feasible
On 20/12/06, Mark Knecht [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 12/20/06, Nelson, David (ED, PARD) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
SNIP
I understand that every package is out there in some repository on the
web. I think Neil has pointed me toward it once or twice at least. The
problem is for a user type
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:42, Mark Knecht wrote:
My personal problem was not finding it but moving it to my machine and
creating the overlay. I'm not sure of directory structure. I don't
know all the files that have to be there and where. I don't know about
running digests, etc., and
Mark Knecht wrote:
At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay
what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I
don't know it will be removed until it's been removed.
You could, as soon as you have a system in a working state, tar up
the entire /usr/portage tree, and
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that
would like to (voluntarily) let us
On 12/20/06, Benno Schulenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay
what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I
don't know it will be removed until it's been removed.
You could, as soon as you have a system in a
On 20 December 2006 21:39, Mark Knecht wrote:
If I wanted to take the plunge I should probably learn to run my own
portage server where I suppose I could learn to keep things like this
even if the main server wants to get rid of things.
You don't need to do that. I have one box with a portage
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 18:16, Mark Knecht wrote:
In cases like that, you use portage overlays. Then the ebuild will
always be there until *you* delete it
The problem with this view of overlays has been that I do an eix-sync
and find that something I'm currently running been removed
On Wed, Dec 20, 2006 at 12:16:04PM +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
Is the non-profit organization side of Gentoo healthy? My brief Google
session does not reveal anything that suggests it is not, but if somebody
can and may comment on this, please do so.
What do you mean by healthy?
Steve Dibb wrote:
Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 08:18:41 +0200, Uwe Thiem wrote:
I can't think of any method to get real numbers.
Add sys-apps/gentoo-phonehome to all system profiles :)
There's actually a gentoo-stats project in the works, for those that
would like to
Is the non-profit organization side of Gentoo healthy? My brief Google
session does not reveal anything that suggests it is not, but if somebody
can and may comment on this, please do so.
What do you mean by healthy? There's a number of important issues the
Trustees have to work out but we're
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 21:09, Benno Schulenberg wrote:
Mark Knecht wrote:
At that point it's gone. I cannot put into an overlay
what I don't have. Probably most frustrating has been that I
don't know it will be removed until it's been removed.
You could, as soon as you have a
On Wednesday 20 December 2006 19:42, Mark Knecht wrote:
As for family members not a single one of them, except possibly my
son today could even have a chance of setting up a Linux box.
Looks like you are assuming stuff up front and never actually getting
round to checking it out for real
My
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:27:20 +0300, Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Monday 18 December 2006 15:47, Grant wrote:
I've caught a whiff or two lately that Gentoo is declining in
popularity amongst users and developers. Is it all in my head? I
personally still love Gentoo.
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 23:18:19 +, Jeff Rollin wrote:
On 18/12/06, John J. Foster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
It may, but you are confusing cause and effect. A distro with more
developers should be a better distro, and should have more users.
Well, Microsoft has proven that theory wrong ;-
On Tue, 19 Dec 2006 03:22:24 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote:
emerge gentoo-bugger
bugger --keyword mod_perl
bugger --show 157239
I prefer www-client/pybugz.
# emerge pybugz
# bugz search mod_perl
# bugz get 157239
Nice :)
--
Neil Bothwick
Unix is user-friendly. It's just
On Tue, Dec 19, 2006 at 11:27:04AM +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
Where can I get data on the number of Gentoo users and how it changes with
time? Are the sync servers reporting the number of portage trees? Are the
numbers of subscribers to Gentoo mailing lists available? Can the number
On Tue, 2006-12-19 at 11:27 +0300, Andrey Gerasimenko wrote:
On Mon, 18 Dec 2006 20:27:20 +0300, Hemmann, Volker Armin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(there is a report somewhere in the thread that the number of
developers increased from 60 to 300 in 3 days, but a finer time scale is
of
I
personally still love Gentoo.
What's the problem then? :)
Can we agree that active developers are good for Gentoo, and the more
the better?
I think other posters to this thread may be trying to compile a
similar set of statistics, but I'll just come out and say it. Can we
compare
Grant wrote:
I
personally still love Gentoo.
Well, I don't know anything ... I'm just a lowly user, not a tech
I'd never compiled a kernel before using Gentoo or wrote a configuration
file.
However, I have to say that, for me, Gentoo is hands down the easiest
distro to maintain. It has
Colleen Beamer wrote:
Grant wrote:
I
personally still love Gentoo.
Well, I don't know anything ... I'm just a lowly user, not a tech
I'd never compiled a kernel before using Gentoo or wrote a configuration
file.
However, I have to say that, for me, Gentoo is hands down
On 20 December 2006 03:58, Grant wrote:
I think other posters to this thread may be trying to compile a
similar set of statistics, but I'll just come out and say it. Can we
compare historical data on the number of Gentoo users and the rate of
Gentoo maintenance and growth? Conceptually, I
On Monday 18 December 2006 20:17, Grant wrote:
I
personally still love Gentoo.
What's the problem then? :)
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I
personally still love Gentoo.
What's the problem then? :)
bugs.gentoo.org :)
Do you think Gentoo is waning? Is Debian the only similar distro out there?
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On Monday 18 December 2006 20:17, Grant wrote:
I
personally still love Gentoo.
What's the problem then? :)
Another question would be, how many of us have made healthy progress in our
general knowledge of
Linux all thanks to the gentoo user guides/howto(s) and the time spent
installing
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