[gentoo-user] libncursesw not build even with 'unicode' in USE
Hi, I am doing a stage1 install or rather attempting to do one... I am still in the emerge --emptytree system process described in section 6.d of the handbook. My USE statement includes 'unicode' but the build of dialog-1.0.20050206 failed due to a missing libncursesw library. The problem is that libncurses is indeed build at this stage, but without unicode support. I assume emerge --oneshot ncurses will fix it, but ncurses should really have been build with unicode support from the start. Best regards, jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libncursesw not build even with 'unicode' in USE
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 08:17 +0200, Jules Colding wrote: My USE statement includes 'unicode' but the build of dialog-1.0.20050206 failed due to a missing libncursesw library. The problem is that libncurses is indeed build at this stage, but without unicode support. I assume emerge --oneshot ncurses will fix it, but ncurses should really have been build with unicode support from the start. Beautiful, doing emerge --oneshot ncurses goes into calculating dependencies and leaps into step 1 of 26 the first of which is dialog-1.0.20050206 which promptly fails due to a missing libncursesw. My USE is: USE=-qt -kde -oggvorbis -encode -xmms -mad -mp3 -mikmod -flac -esd - arts -avi -alsa -oss nptl fbcon gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 emacs tetex Ideas/help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Thanks, jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libncursesw not build even with 'unicode' in USE
On Wed, 2005-06-08 at 23:37 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: Beautiful, doing emerge --oneshot ncurses goes into calculating dependencies and leaps into step 1 of 26 the first of which is dialog-1.0.20050206 which promptly fails due to a missing libncursesw. My USE is: USE=-qt -kde -oggvorbis -encode -xmms -mad -mp3 -mikmod -flac -esd - arts -avi -alsa -oss nptl fbcon gtk2 gtkhtml gnome hal cdr unicode bzip2 emacs tetex Ideas/help/suggestions will be greatly appreciated. Sorry your having so much trouble. I normally do stage 3 installs myself (sometimes build my own stages with catalyst). ;-) Thanks Anyways, try USE=-gpm emerge --oneshot ncurses and that should work around the problem. Note that emerge --info shows USE=gpm in the profile so you need to disable it. Why is gpm a problem here? Thanks a lot, jules -- Jules Colding PGP Public Key: 6266E7B7 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] libncursesw not build even with 'unicode' in USE
--- Jules Colding [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anyways, try USE=-gpm emerge --oneshot ncurses and that should work around the problem. Note that emerge --info shows USE=gpm in the profile so you need to disable it. Why is gpm a problem here? Thanks a lot, jules Calculating dependencies yielded 26 packages. I looked in the ncurses ebuild and saw this: DEPEND=gpm? ( sys-libs/gpm ) Thats where the extra 25 packages came from. Sometimes you need to build a package without all it's dependecies (USE flags) in order to avoid circular dependencies. Portage takes some getting used to (and study) but it's definitely worth it. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Find restaurants, movies, travel and more fun for the weekend. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/weekend.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
On 2005-06-08 17:14:58 -0500 (Wed, Jun), Michael Sullivan wrote: Each time I offload photos from my camera I create a directory for those photos and name it the date I offloaded them in mmddyy format. I then create a list of files in that directory (ex, if I offloaded pix today I would have called the directory 060805 and the list list060805.txt. There is also a file called list.txt that contains each of the list filenames on its own line. My VB program (and now my PHP script) opens list.txt and reads in a list filename and passes it to a subroutine which in turn opens the list filename and formats an HTML page with the 100x100 photos organized into tables by date. It then returns this page to the web browser requesting it. [...] If PHP is a server side scripting language, then why is mozilla requiring so much of my RAM memory and hard drive? Shouldn't all the work of generating the page be being done on bullet??? You did not said that you prepare the 'thumbnails' - small versions of the images. Thus, if you generate a page that includes 10 000 images (I suppose that they are really large images) then the client has to download all these images and shrink them for display. It will consume a lot of disk space, a lot of memory, a lot of CPU cycles, a lot of bandwidth. You should create smaller versions of your photos, for example by using the 'convert' program from ImageMagick package: mkdir thu; \ for x in *.jpg; do \ convert $x -thumbnail 200x200 -verbose thu/thu_$x; \ done and then, in the generated HTML you should make something like: a href=image.png img src=thu/thu_image.png height=200 width=200 alt=image.png / /a HTH. -- $ ls -lart /bin/ls: you must be root to use LART pgpiW6BPQlBon.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Mark Knecht wrote: I got back to looking at this item this evening. dmesg is now full of this: pdflush(185): WRITE block 14947712 on hda3 syslog-ng(5341): dirtied inode 936889 (messages) on hda3 syslog-ng(5341): dirtied inode 936889 (messages) on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 14947712 on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 9112 on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 9120 on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 9128 on hda3 pdflush(185): WRITE block 14947712 on hda3 syslog-ng(5341): dirtied inode 936889 (messages) on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 9136 on hda3 kjournald(869): WRITE block 9144 on hda3 syslog-ng(5341): dirtied inode 936889 (messages) on hda3 syslog-ng(5341): dirtied inode 936889 (messages) on hda3 Is this the logger stuff you were speaking of, or is there a clue here to what's spinning the drive back up? Yes, that's it. The kernel is generating a WRITE message, which syslog-ng writes to its log file, which generates a new WRITE message, and so on. You should setup syslog-ng so that WRITE, READ and dirtied inode messages are not recorded in your log files, but still printed on the console. The interesting messages are the dirtied inode ones, they tell you which processes write data to the disk. kjournald is the journaling process for ext3, it won't trigger if no other process is writing to the disk. Alternatively, you could setup syslog-ng to send the logs to another machine. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] photo management
I don't think so, because it will try to support everything it can, when you should be able to get only what you really NEED. But as you said, its a solution (not so temporary, as cross-platform drivers are still a dream, an utopia :)) and if it does the job, carry on. On 6/7/05, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What I meant to say is: To support new hardware should be more of a hardware engineer problem than an OS programmer one. I see, very interesting. From that point of view, Gentopia is a temporary solution until hardware manufacturers get it together. But even so, doesn't Gentopia mimic the end that open or cross-platform hardware drivers will achieve? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Just installed Gentoo 2005.0. cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Is there any way of writing CDs in Gentoo 2005.0? Govind -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Customize - maximize a window in KDE or a general X application
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 18:46:07 -0700, Hareesh Nagarajan wrote: If I have a screen res of length*breadth by default a Maximize on a window sets it to length * breadth. Is there a way to set Maximize to (length/2) * breadth? It wouldn't be maximised if it only took up half the available space :) It should be possible to do this in KDE with DCOP and a shell script, which you could attach to a hot key. Also, KDE has options to only maximise in one direction, by right or middle-clicking on the maximise gadget, which may suit your needs. -- Neil Bothwick If it was easy, the hardware people would take care of it. pgpnP9lSMNAFw.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
On 09 Jun 2005 10:17:30 +0100, Govind Chandra wrote: cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Ignore it. It's only a warning and we have moved on quite a way since 2.5. -- Neil Bothwick A woman walked into a bar and asked the barman for a large double entendre, so he gave her one. pgpdL1zNug0Wy.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Mysql 4.0.22 emerge
Hi, I am totally confused, I finally decided to do some updating but was very annoyed when I tried to start my new mysql (4.0.24-r2). Simply no output of the init script only some [!!]. And when I looked deeper into it there is no more mysqld_safe nor a mysqld. When I forced to switch back to 4.0.22 it suddenly reappears. So I watched the emerge of the updated version but only some underquoted warning messages of the m4's appear... Anyone got an idea ? (And yes I even tried the 4.1.x versions) Thanx in advance Paul -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 00:10:55 +0800, Ow Mun Heng wrote: myth11 root # cat /proc/sys/vm/laptop_mode 2 Mine says 0 (cause I'm on AC right now) on Battery it changes to 2 What do the numbers mean? On my iBook it switches between 0 and 5. It seems to be the value configured in /etc/laptop_mode/laptop_mode.conf: # Seconds laptop mode has to to wait after the disk goes idle before doing # a sync. LM_SECONDS_BEFORE_SYNC=2 -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
The images on the photoindex page are sized 100x100. They are miniatures. To get the full size picture one must first click on the miniature of the desired photo. I used Mikov Image Resizer for this... On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 09:01 +0200, Mariusz Pkala wrote: On 2005-06-08 17:14:58 -0500 (Wed, Jun), Michael Sullivan wrote: Each time I offload photos from my camera I create a directory for those photos and name it the date I offloaded them in mmddyy format. I then create a list of files in that directory (ex, if I offloaded pix today I would have called the directory 060805 and the list list060805.txt. There is also a file called list.txt that contains each of the list filenames on its own line. My VB program (and now my PHP script) opens list.txt and reads in a list filename and passes it to a subroutine which in turn opens the list filename and formats an HTML page with the 100x100 photos organized into tables by date. It then returns this page to the web browser requesting it. [...] If PHP is a server side scripting language, then why is mozilla requiring so much of my RAM memory and hard drive? Shouldn't all the work of generating the page be being done on bullet??? You did not said that you prepare the 'thumbnails' - small versions of the images. Thus, if you generate a page that includes 10 000 images (I suppose that they are really large images) then the client has to download all these images and shrink them for display. It will consume a lot of disk space, a lot of memory, a lot of CPU cycles, a lot of bandwidth. You should create smaller versions of your photos, for example by using the 'convert' program from ImageMagick package: mkdir thu; \ for x in *.jpg; do \ convert $x -thumbnail 200x200 -verbose thu/thu_$x; \ done and then, in the generated HTML you should make something like: a href=image.png img src=thu/thu_image.png height=200 width=200 alt=image.png / /a HTH. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:07:58 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: What do the numbers mean? On my iBook it switches between 0 and 5. It seems to be the value configured in /etc/laptop_mode/ laptop_mode.conf: I have no such file, so I guess 5 must be a default. Which package installs /etc/laptop_mode? -- Neil Bothwick My Go this amn keyboar oesn't have any 's. pgpWd5ZxX7YcI.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ognjen Bezanov wrote: Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address This is usually caused by having PORTAGE_TMPDIR on a partition that has been mounted with the noexec flag. For obvious reasons (I hope), you cannot have PORTAGE_TMPDIR on a partition with the noexec flag set. Either remove the noexec flag or set PORTAGE_TMPDIR to a different location. HTH - -- YOW!!! I am having fun!!! Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCp/CcC3poscuANHARAqTKAKCG2GovAtF8lxjwaQpizzpanTzNHACdEFIc VSKlNvUhmXXIcOyyGr8BNFg= =Yqdb -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] depclean sane?
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Grant wrote: How are these for depcleaning? sys-libs/lib-compat media-libs/libao sys-fs/device-mapper sys-fs/cryptsetup app-shells/sash app-text/gtkspell media-libs/t1lib app-arch/ncompress Mark has already given great advice, so no need to comment there. app-shells/sash has been recently removed from the base profile in favor of busybox, so you're safe to remove that one. - -- It just doesn't seem right to go over the river and through the woods to Grandmother's condo. Aaron Walker [EMAIL PROTECTED] [ BSD | cron | forensics | shell-tools | commonbox | netmon | vim | web-apps ] -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFCp/EeC3poscuANHARAn4EAJ9j0hjQwby9PjDfx9qj1RZRMBqDewCg5GBD uC0kI2bzu10yc7UDT/4B/Rg= =DcAZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Govind Chandra schreef: Just installed Gentoo 2005.0. cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Is there any way of writing CDs in Gentoo 2005.0? Govind Of course there is... don't you think you'd have heard about it if none of us could write CD's and DVDs? I mean, that would be *news* ;-) . That message is... well, not untrue, but misleading. We've been beyond the 2.5 stage long enough that while the issues are not fixed (due to the developer of cdrecord being in philosophical conflict with the kernel devs), they have long ago had workarounds developed for them. So CD recording works fairly normally under Linux-- certainly under X, where there are several frontends available that record such media reliably. Under the console, a read-through of the man pages is in order due to 1) specific settings needed to run cdrecord using an ATAPI recorder rather than a SCSI one; 2) additional programs needed to record DVDs (rather than CDs) or special formats (like ISOs). But it's all pretty straightforward, and works well (I haven't burned a coaster in months). What precisely is the problem you're having? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windowmaker Woes
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [2005-06-08 07:30]: Hi all, Hi Dennis, I've just set up a shiny new AMD64 box, and I can't get many apps (mozilla, firefox, openoffice, wprefs, etc.) to run properly in windowmaker. Open Office crashes, I can't see the windows with mozilla and firefox, and wprefs just dies without an error message. And, of course, everything works fine in gnome and fluxbox. Would anyone happen to know what might be going on? Try, strace if you can run xterm. For example: $ strace /usr/lib/GNUstep/Applications/WPrefs.app/WPrefs From the output you could guess what the problem is. If not, post it here. Robert -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache IfDefine error
On 6/8/05, Pshem Kowalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoudn't that be /IfDefine (instead of IfDefine INFO)? In context it looks fine: sed -n '275,285p' /etc/apache2/httpd.conf # # Handlers # # These modules create content for a client. # IfDefine INFO LoadModule info_module modules/mod_info.so /IfDefine INFO LoadModule actions_modulemodules/mod_actions.so LoadModule autoindex_module modules/mod_autoindex.so LoadModule dir_modulemodules/mod_dir.so -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Apache IfDefine error
On 6/8/05, Pshem Kowalczyk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Shoudn't that be /IfDefine Yeah, you're right. Didn't understand what you meant at first. Fixed. -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Skype is awesome, what is sound daemon for?
Skype knows nothing about artsd or esd. The reason you see
that message is that the execution of skype is done by
a shell script which checks for the existence of one of
these daemons, and if found, fools skype into using it
via some clever (but not original) subterfuge.
I assume the wrapper was implemented by whoever packaged skype
for gentoo. The library subterfuge seems to have been developed
by the sound daemon developers as a transition aid to allow
legacy OSS apps to be used.
The mechanism involved is to insert a new dynamic linked
library for the interface to the open()/close()/.. etc
system calls, and check every open() call to see if it
is opening '/dev/dsp'. If it is, you replace it with a
sound daemon initialization and intercept all subsequent
I/O on the associated file descripter. All other IO is
passed through to the OS normally.
I have been tinkering with it because I wanted to use skype on
a remote X terminal with networked audio. That requires
intercepting the /dev/dsp I/O for both play and record, and
the full duplex operation is proving tricky.
If you want to see the details of what is going on, look at the
shell script:
% more /opt/skype/skype
#!/bin/bash
#
# Wrapper script to run Skype with sound wrapper when possible
logfile=${HOME}/.Skype/skype.log
progname=skype
progpath=/opt/${progname}/
progopts=--resources-path ${progpath}
shellcheck1=` which artsshell 2 /dev/null `
shellcheck2=` which esd 2 /dev/null `
artsdcheck=` ps x | grep artsd | grep -v grep `
## We use ps ax for esd as esd can be used globaly for all users.
esdcheck=` ps ax | grep esd . | grep -v grep `
skypecmd=${progpath}${progname}.bin
wrapsound=yes
.
.
.
You will see it is easy enough to get rid of those annoying messages
if you arn't interested in the sound daemons.
Regards,
DigbyT
On Thu, Jun 09, 2005 at 12:34:56AM +0200, Christoph Eckert wrote:
What I'm confused about is the message I get when running
skype from the command line:
No running artsd or esd found
Starting skype without sound daemon
Same for me.
There are arts and esd USE flags for skype. Where do these
sound daemons come in?
I guess that Skype tells us that it seems to be aware of sound
deamons but it isn't (yet).
Best regards
ce
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Re: [gentoo-user] Apache IfDefine error
The syntax error is not exactly at the line you're reading, with the basic information you gave us, I can guess the error is a few lines down, when it CLOSES the IfDefine tag, so, try: cat /etc/apache2/httpd.conf | grep -n /IfDefin And you'll get the line number and the content of that line (if it exists). Good luck, On 6/8/05, Greg Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: /etc/init.d/apache2 restart * Apache2 has detected a syntax error in your configuration files: Syntax error on line 280 of /etc/apache2/httpd.conf: Expected /IfDefine but saw /IfDefin But it looks fine to me: sed -n '280p' /etc/apache2/httpd.conf IfDefine INFO Any ideas? -- Greg Donald Zend Certified Engineer http://destiney.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 10:07:58 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: What do the numbers mean? On my iBook it switches between 0 and 5. It seems to be the value configured in /etc/laptop_mode/ laptop_mode.conf: I have no such file, so I guess 5 must be a default. Which package installs /etc/laptop_mode? Sorry, I meant /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf: [EMAIL PROTECTED] joe $ qpkg -v -f /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools-1.05 * -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Search gentoo documentation
It happens all the time for me, and as you can see, for everyone: On 6/8/05, Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: perhaps because you searched on ssmpt not ssmtp ^ ^ |_| smtp Best regards, -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] slocate + updatedb problem for network mount directories
Hi Everyone, just felt in love with Vim and noticed that I can use app-vim/locateopen to forget those long paths (and yes, sometimes I don't know where is the needed file). Got one problem: all of the files I used to open is on a (cifs) mounted network drive (nfs, and any other filesystem are not an option - got a rude sysadm :-) ). So I set up updatedb.conf like this: PRUNEFS=afs auto autofs devfs devpts iso9660 ncpfs nfs NFS nnpfs proc ramfs sfs smbfs subfs supermount sysfs tmpfs udf usbfs PRUNEPATHS=/tmp /var/tmp /public /transfer /home1/actuate /home1/alm /home1/art hur /home1/arthurinside /home1/backup /home1/bpl2 /home1/btr /home1/cdrom /home1 /Consulting /home1/controlling /home1/coreboss /home1/designer /home1/dlc /home1 /doc /home1/electra /home1/elementa /home1/hbdir /home1/infra /home1/internation al /home1/intranet /home1/jdk1.2.2 /home1/lmntart /home1/magyarmarketing /home1/ middlew /home1/olf /home1/olt /home1/opt /home1/pr91b /home1/pr91c /home1/pr91d /home1/progress /home1/Progress_SonicMQ /home1/promsgs /home1/script /home1/scri pt_lukas /home1/sd /home1/spectra /home1/spectraw /home1/squidlogs /home1/supbos s /home1/support /home1/techn /home1/terminal /home1/tmp /home1/users /home1/wlm /home1/xmake /home1/boss/adm-neird /home1/boss/@af1stat0006.r /home1/boss/arch /home1/boss/bat /home1/boss/bootmdb /home1/boss/bora /home1/boss/bpl2 /home1/bos s/bplsg /home1/boss/btumac /home1/boss/btuproc /home1/boss/cfg /home1/boss/cgi-b in /home1/boss/codepage /home1/boss/confid /home1/boss/confidobj /home1/boss/cpr ogs /home1/boss/db /home1/boss/dcl /home1/boss/ddplus /home1/boss/@depstat0006.r /home1/boss/designer /home1/boss/doc /home1/boss/ecboss /home1/boss/environ /ho me1/boss/gen /home1/boss/giro /home1/boss/got /home1/boss/hb /home1/boss/helpdes k /home1/boss/ibank /home1/boss/in /home1/boss/in2 /home1/boss/include /home1/bo ss/@inistat0006.r /home1/boss/ivr /home1/boss/jszmod /home1/boss/@mprmp_feloszt. r /home1/boss/mqapipb /home1/boss/mssqlscr /home1/boss/mtbklir /home1/boss/multi db /home1/boss/netboss /home1/boss/obj /home1/boss/out /home1/boss/param_dead /h ome1/boss/pegu /home1/boss/post /home1/boss/posta /home1/boss/ptools /home1/boss /pubhtml /home1/boss/registry /home1/boss/samples /home1/boss/schema /home1/boss /script /home1/boss/@scrstat0006.r /home1/boss/sent /home1/boss/@setstat0006.r / home1/boss/share /home1/boss/signhtml /home1/boss/@t2gstat0006.r /home1/boss/tas ak /home1/boss/uzem /home1/boss/work NETPATHS=/home1/boss/param /home1/boss/proc /home1/boss/mac (and export all those variables as well). So I updatedb-ed (I can read all those three directory in NETPATHS), but realized that contents of the /home1/boss/param directory doesn't show up in locate's ouput. Any idea why? Zsoltik@ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: What spins a drive up?
On Thu, 09 Jun 2005 15:05:00 +0200, Remy Blank wrote: I have no such file, so I guess 5 must be a default. Which package installs /etc/laptop_mode? Sorry, I meant /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf: I have no /etc/lapanything [EMAIL PROTECTED] joe $ qpkg -v -f /etc/laptop-mode/laptop-mode.conf app-laptop/laptop-mode-tools-1.05 * No wonder I don't have that, the ebuild has no ppc keyword. I'll try keywording it and see what i can break :) -- Neil Bothwick He's dead, Jim. You get his phaser, I'll grab his wallet. pgpWaKFCCu1Q1.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Search gentoo documentation
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:41:16 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: perhaps because you searched on ssmpt not ssmtp ^ ^ |_| smtp ssmtp! eix ssmtp * mail-mta/ssmtp Available versions: 2.60.7-r1 2.60.9 2.61 [M]2.61-r1 Installed: no Homepage:ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssmtp/ Description: Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a Mailhub -- Neil Bothwick Hm..what's this red button fo|'».'NO CARRIER pgp9BaF38sUrc.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] apache2 stopped logging referrers
actually I'm using apache2 and referer log comes together with other data. May could it be a log format option? I'm using cronolog to rotate apache logs so I have this line at apache2.conf: CustomLog |/usr/sbin/cronolog /var/log/apache2/%Y/%m/%d/access.log combined env=!VLOG Are you using the stable apache layout with apache2.conf or the new ~ layout with httpd.conf? The default behaviour seems to have been changed for the new layout. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Richard Fish wrote: Alec Shaner wrote: I recently purchased a WD 160GB external USB drive and can't get it to perform reliably on my server. It works fine when connected to my workstation machine (a P4P800 ASUS MB with USB 2.0 support). The server only has 1.1 USB support, but the problem is that it starts out copying fine at about 11MB/sec and then after a bit slows to a crawl and stays that way. I have formatted it with an ext3 filesystem. Here's all the info if anyone has an idea. With USB 1.1 you are not going to get more than about 1.2MB/s throughput, because the top speed is 11 megabits/sec, not megabytes: 11 mbit / 8 bits-per-pyte = 1.375. The initial burst you see at 11MB/sec is likely due to buffering. Maybe you can answer this question. I have an ATA/66 parallel ATA hard drive (66 MBps) on an ATA/133 bus. If the bus is limited to 133 MBps and the drive cannot transfer data at more than 66 MBps, how come burst transfers (as reported by hdparm -tT /dev/hdg) are at about 1.6 GBps? Not that I'm complaining, of course, it just seems illogical :-) -- Colin -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Search gentoo documentation
*lol* Sorry, I didn't make myself clear, I was trying to say I did the same mistake as him, only with smtp when searching for docs once. Just do add a little, I like to visit http://gentoo-wiki.com/ for docs too. The best of the Linux community is that we can always get help from other users. On 6/9/05, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 8 Jun 2005 23:41:16 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: perhaps because you searched on ssmpt not ssmtp ^ ^ |_| smtp ssmtp! eix ssmtp * mail-mta/ssmtp Available versions: 2.60.7-r1 2.60.9 2.61 [M]2.61-r1 Installed: no Homepage:ftp://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/s/ssmtp/ Description: Extremely simple MTA to get mail off the system to a Mailhub -- Neil Bothwick Hm..what's this red button fo|'».'NO CARRIER -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: The images on the photoindex page are sized 100x100. They are miniatures. To get the full size picture one must first click on the miniature of the desired photo. I used Mikov Image Resizer for this... Not what you were looking for, but for the archives: Perhaps there is already a program that will do what you like? jigl - Jason's Image Gallery http://xome.net/projects/jigl/ Christopher Fisk -- Good morning, fellow employee. You'll notice that I am now a model worker. We should continue this conversation later, during the designated break periods. Sincerely, Homer Simpson. -- Homer Simpson Homer's Enemy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Windowmaker Woes
On Tue, 7 Jun 2005 17:46:32 -0700 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I've just set up a shiny new AMD64 box, and I can't get many apps (mozilla, firefox, openoffice, wprefs, etc.) to run properly in windowmaker. Open Office crashes, I can't see the windows with mozilla and firefox, and wprefs just dies without an error message. And, of course, everything works fine in gnome and fluxbox. Would anyone happen to know what might be going on? Use unstable version 0.91.0-r4. See http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=88445. I don't know why it take so long to make it stable, especially when current stable don't work properly. :-( Robert -- Robert Cernansky E-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jabber: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Uncluttering my world file
On Wednesday 08 June 2005 18:43, Richard Fish wrote: Here is a script to do it: cat /var/lib/portage/world | \ while read line; do count=`equery depends $line | wc -l` test $count -gt 0 echo $line done This will output every package listed in world that is a dependancy of something else. Of course, you need a recent version of gentoolkit to get equery. It wasn't my question but many thanks anyway! Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables blocks ssh
On Wed, 8 Jun 2005, Antonio Coralles wrote: I've recently turned my workstation into a router for my laptop, using the great gentoo home router guide. Everthing is ok so far, with one exception: I can't connect to my ssh server anymore from outside the LAN, becuase iptables seems to prevent this, allthough i # iptables -A INPUT -p TCP --dport ssh -i eth1 -j ACCEPT . The ordering of the rules is important. Perhaps you can provide more context by showing us the rules preceding the one above? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] is there anybody succeded with ./CA.pl -newca in Gentoo 2005.0?
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, askar ... wrote: I was using universal live cd, with its stage and portage files not using emerge --sync. Maybe that's your problem. -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
Grant wrote: Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? - Grant http://www.dvdrohlinge24.com for example -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:30:55 -0700, Grant wrote: Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? Yes, but whether it is any use to you depends on where you are http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/ -- Neil Bothwick Bother, said Pooh as his Mercedes smashed into the tunnel support. pgpf63HoZiZJH.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 15:37:13 +0100, Uwe Thiem wrote: You're right. I suspect that this is left over from a previous installation of KDE 3.4. It is easy enough to change it to media. Well, not that easy. For all those who have got the same problem: Nuke the content of ~/.kde/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders. You don't need to nuke the whole folder, just modify one file, devices.desktop. -- Neil Bothwick System halted - hit any Microsoft employee to continue. pgprqycCFKInx.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
As shown below, why wouldn't emerge -u world pick up the update available for gdm? Actually, I think it is probably because it is not listed in /var/lib/portage/world so I guess I am actually wondering why it wouldn't be listed there? Obviously my system knows gdm is installed but how does it know this? I guess I was always under the impression that everything I installed would be placed in /var/lib/portage/world. Obviously not. I know I can edit that file and add gdm dut that doesn't really answer my question. I am sure this is a minor issue that I just can't find in the man pages but I am trying to 1) learn something that I am obviously missing 2) determine if there are any other updates that emerge -Du world might be missing. Thanks in advance. Reg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -ua world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! Nothing to merge; do you want me to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] no Quitting. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -ua gdm These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.9.5 [2.8.1-r1] [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.6.0.9-r3 [2.6.0.6] Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no Quitting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
Try accessing the link with a different browser, use a text only one, like links or elinks, and see the result, this will get the result of the php script but won't show you the pictures, so, you'll know if the issue is the way firefox is dealing with the pictures. That program you mentioned to convert and resize, is a Windows one, isnt? So, you convert your images at Windows and then use the images on Linux? I would use Mariusz tip on using convert directly. On 6/9/05, Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: The images on the photoindex page are sized 100x100. They are miniatures. To get the full size picture one must first click on the miniature of the desired photo. I used Mikov Image Resizer for this... Not what you were looking for, but for the archives: Perhaps there is already a program that will do what you like? jigl - Jason's Image Gallery http://xome.net/projects/jigl/ Christopher Fisk -- Good morning, fellow employee. You'll notice that I am now a model worker. We should continue this conversation later, during the designated break periods. Sincerely, Homer Simpson. -- Homer Simpson Homer's Enemy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
It's likely that gnome-base/gdm isn't in your world file. An easy way to check this is: grep gnome-base/gdm /var/lib/portage/world It's more than likely a dependancy of some other gnome project that hasn't upgraded its requirements to gdm. A way to upgrade dependancies is to add --deep or just -D to your emerge world, e.g. emerge -Duva world One other useful flag you may have missed is also --newuse or -N, which rechecks use flags on all packages, just in case you've tweaked your flags recently. On 6/9/05, reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As shown below, why wouldn't emerge -u world pick up the update available for gdm? Actually, I think it is probably because it is not listed in /var/lib/portage/world so I guess I am actually wondering why it wouldn't be listed there? Obviously my system knows gdm is installed but how does it know this? I guess I was always under the impression that everything I installed would be placed in /var/lib/portage/world. Obviously not. I know I can edit that file and add gdm dut that doesn't really answer my question. I am sure this is a minor issue that I just can't find in the man pages but I am trying to 1) learn something that I am obviously missing 2) determine if there are any other updates that emerge -Du world might be missing. Thanks in advance. Reg [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -ua world These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating world dependencies ...done! Nothing to merge; do you want me to auto-clean packages? [Yes/No] no Quitting. [EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ sudo emerge -ua gdm These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] gnome-base/librsvg-2.9.5 [2.8.1-r1] [ebuild U ] gnome-base/gdm-2.6.0.9-r3 [2.6.0.6] Do you want me to merge these packages? [Yes/No] no Quitting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? Yes, but whether it is any use to you depends on where you are http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/ -- Neil Bothwick Sorry about that, I'm in the US. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
On 12:16 Thu 09 Jun , reg hughson wrote: As shown below, why wouldn't emerge -u world pick up the update available for gdm? Actually, I think it is probably because it is not listed in /var/lib/portage/world so I guess I am actually wondering why it wouldn't be listed there? Obviously my system knows gdm is installed but how does it know this? I guess I was always under the impression that everything I installed would be placed in /var/lib/portage/world. Obviously not. I know I can edit that file and add gdm dut that doesn't really answer my question. I am sure this is a minor issue that I just can't find in the man pages but I am trying to 1) learn something that I am obviously missing 2) determine if there are any other updates that emerge -Du world might be missing. emerge -uD world should want to upgrade gdm. Here's how it works: You type emerge foo, and bar gets installed as a dep of foo, and baz gets installed as a dep of bar. foo gets recorded in your world file, but bar and baz don't. All 3 get entries in /var/db/pkg. Now, if you do emerge -u world should pickup updates for foo and bar, but not baz. emerge -uD world should pickup updates for foo, bar and baz. But if foo gets removed or stops depending on bar and nothing else depends on bar, then even emerge -uD world or emerge -e world won't pickup updates of bar or baz. If you still wanted bar in this case you could do emerge -n bar, and it'd get added to your world file without being re-emerged. Why not add everything to your world file? I believe that it slows portage down because it has to check the deps of more packages. It also means that if libbar gets installed as a dep of appfoo, and then you decided you don't want appfoo anymore and unmerge it then you'd still keep getting updates for libfoo, and emerge depclean wouldn't remove it. It's also harder to maintain/find stuff in a larger world file. hth, Dave -- djm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
Grant schreef: Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? - Grant I'm very fond of Opus Supplies, but again they only are available to you if you're in Western Europe (and shipping gets fairly pricey if you're not in NL or BE): www.opus.nl Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
reg hughson schreef: As shown below, why wouldn't emerge -u world pick up the update available for gdm? Actually, I think it is probably because it is not listed in /var/lib/portage/world so I guess I am actually wondering why it wouldn't be listed there? Obviously my system knows gdm is installed but how does it know this? I guess I was always under the impression that everything I installed would be placed in /var/lib/portage/world. Obviously not. I know I can edit that file and add gdm dut that doesn't really answer my question. It knows this because GDM is a dependency of the gnome meta-package. If you installed that, then GDM was pulled in as a dependency, but dependencies are not placed in the world file. Had you installed (for example) the gnome-light package, which does not install GDM as a dependency, in order to get GDM you would have had to explicitly emerge it, which would have placed it in your world file. If you want to be sure that dependencies will be updated as well as listed packages, use emerge -uaD(tv) world instead of emerge -ua(v) world The --deep switch makes Portage also check the update availability of dependencies of the packages in your world file. Hope this helps. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
You typod something. Looks like you put a space between the '-' and the first character of one of the options. Success! these files included. You then use cdrecord to write the ISO image to the CD. Now, before burning it, I'm aware there have been changes made in the burning process since the 2.6 kernel. My experience using cdrecord has only been wtth 2.4's, all coaster-making events :( From what I've seen on line it should be as easy as #cdrecord /dev/hdc/file . Ha! Fat chance! Could you please append some pointers? Here's my hardware info: livecd cdboot # ls -l /dev/hdc -brw-rw 1 root disk 22, 0 Mar 10 17:47 /dev/hdc livecd cdboot # dmesg hdc: ATAPI 52X CD-ROM CD-R/RW drive, 2048kB Cache, UDMA(33) livecd cdboot # less /etc/fstab /dev/hdc/cdrom auto noauto,user 0 0 __ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
On Thursday 09 June 2005 17:13, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 08:30:55 -0700, Grant wrote: Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? Yes, but whether it is any use to you depends on where you are http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/ Cheers Neil. Duly bookmarked. Some of us do live here. -- Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
--- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As shown below, why wouldn't emerge -u world pick up the update available for gdm? Actually, I think it is probably because it is not listed in /var/lib/portage/world so I guess I am actually wondering why it wouldn't be listed there? It was merged indirectly as a dependency. Obviously my system knows gdm is installed but how does it know this? I guess I was always under the The installed package database is in /var/db/pkg. impression that everything I installed would be placed in /var/lib/portage/world. Obviously not. I know I can edit that file and add gdm dut that doesn't really answer my question. I am sure this is a minor issue that I just can't find in the man pages but I am trying to 1) learn something that I am obviously missing 2) determine if there are any other updates that emerge -Du world might be missing. emerge -uD world will upgrade all packages to the latest (unmasked) versions. Nothing will be missed. Like Wade said, the a, v, and N options are also recommended. Zac __ Yahoo! Mail Stay connected, organized, and protected. Take the tour: http://tour.mail.yahoo.com/mailtour.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
Up until recently I didn't think there was a Linux driver for my camera, so while I was offloading the photos in Windows I went ahead and resized them too... On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 13:21 -0300, Daniel da Veiga wrote: Try accessing the link with a different browser, use a text only one, like links or elinks, and see the result, this will get the result of the php script but won't show you the pictures, so, you'll know if the issue is the way firefox is dealing with the pictures. That program you mentioned to convert and resize, is a Windows one, isnt? So, you convert your images at Windows and then use the images on Linux? I would use Mariusz tip on using convert directly. On 6/9/05, Christopher Fisk [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Michael Sullivan wrote: The images on the photoindex page are sized 100x100. They are miniatures. To get the full size picture one must first click on the miniature of the desired photo. I used Mikov Image Resizer for this... Not what you were looking for, but for the archives: Perhaps there is already a program that will do what you like? jigl - Jason's Image Gallery http://xome.net/projects/jigl/ Christopher Fisk -- Good morning, fellow employee. You'll notice that I am now a model worker. We should continue this conversation later, during the designated break periods. Sincerely, Homer Simpson. -- Homer Simpson Homer's Enemy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Daniel da Veiga Computer Operator - RS - Brazil -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Question about Apache, PHP and where execution actually takes place
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005, Daniel da Veiga wrote: That program you mentioned to convert and resize, is a Windows one, isnt? So, you convert your images at Windows and then use the images on Linux? I would use Mariusz tip on using convert directly. jigl? No, it's a perl script that calls imagemagik and jhead. Or did you hit reply on my message and were talking about his message? Hard to follow a thread when you do that =) Christopher Fisk -- Calvin : I think we have got enough information now, don't you? Hobbes : All we have is one fact that you made up. Calvin : That's plenty. By the time we add an introduction, a few illustrations and a conclusion, it'll look like a graduate thesis. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
--- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all but in hindsight, I guess I should have posted my emerge -Du world as it does not reveal the upgrade for gdm either. So I guess at one point, gdm got pulled in as part of something else that no longer is on my system? How would I find other programs that may exist in a similiar state? emerge -a depclean You need to study your emerge manpage ;-) Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
At 10:35 AM 6/9/2005, Rob wrote: At 04:50 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: Govind Chandra schreef: Just installed Gentoo 2005.0. cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Is there any way of writing CDs in Gentoo 2005.0? Govind Of course there is... don't you think you'd have heard about it if none of us could write CD's and DVDs? I mean, that would be *news* ;-) . That message is... well, not untrue, but misleading. We've been beyond the 2.5 stage long enough that while the issues are not fixed (due to the developer of cdrecord being in philosophical conflict with the kernel devs), they have long ago had workarounds developed for them. So CD recording works fairly normally under Linux-- certainly under X, where there are several frontends available that record such media reliably. Under the console, a read-through of the man pages is in order due to 1) specific settings needed to run cdrecord using an ATAPI recorder rather than a SCSI one; 2) additional programs needed to record DVDs (rather than CDs) or special formats (like ISOs). But it's all pretty straightforward, and works well (I haven't burned a coaster in months). What precisely is the problem you're having? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Dear list, Here is my experience: I followed the kernel warnings that ide-scsi was depricated, then found out that most of the burner programs would not work or worked lousy with an ide ATAPI interface. So I went back to the hdc=ide-scsi kernel option. I would like to, however, follow the correct procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Sincerely, Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
At 09:32 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: Does anyone have a good online source for cheap and reliable CDRW media? Yes, but whether it is any use to you depends on where you are http://www.bigpockets.co.uk/ -- Neil Bothwick Sorry about that, I'm in the US. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My experience is that cheap is OK for general backup and mp3 archiving. However, for live CD's and boot CD's, always use the most expensive disks, back up on the speed, and always do a complete erase, never quick erase. That has been my key to success in the critical CDRW area. Rob. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
--- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Hi Rob, What do you mean it didn't work out? More specific please. Instead of using the scsibus address like -dev=0,0,0 or whatever you simply substitute -dev=/dev/hdc. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Rob schreef: At 10:35 AM 6/9/2005, Rob wrote: At 04:50 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: Govind Chandra schreef: Just installed Gentoo 2005.0. cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Is there any way of writing CDs in Gentoo 2005.0? Govind Of course there is... don't you think you'd have heard about it if none of us could write CD's and DVDs? I mean, that would be *news* ;-) . That message is... well, not untrue, but misleading. We've been beyond the 2.5 stage long enough that while the issues are not fixed (due to the developer of cdrecord being in philosophical conflict with the kernel devs), they have long ago had workarounds developed for them. So CD recording works fairly normally under Linux-- certainly under X, where there are several frontends available that record such media reliably. Under the console, a read-through of the man pages is in order due to 1) specific settings needed to run cdrecord using an ATAPI recorder rather than a SCSI one; 2) additional programs needed to record DVDs (rather than CDs) or special formats (like ISOs). But it's all pretty straightforward, and works well (I haven't burned a coaster in months). What precisely is the problem you're having? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Dear list, Here is my experience: I followed the kernel warnings that ide-scsi was depricated, then found out that most of the burner programs would not work or worked lousy with an ide ATAPI interface. So I went back to the hdc=ide-scsi kernel option. I would like to, however, follow the correct procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Sincerely, Rob. What kernel was this under, and what kernel are you using now? In the very early days of 2.6, one really had to explicitly run ide-cd (the replacement for ide-scsi) in order to get things working, but again, we are far beyond that now. Ide-cd is automatically compiled into the kernel (you don't even get to choose it, it's just there), and /dev/hdc (assuming that that's where your CD/DVD burner is) will use it when it is detected to be a writeable device during the boot process. So again, I ask what precisely your issue is what goes wrong when you try to burn a CD or DVD? What commands are you using to do so, and what type of disk are you trying to create (a bootable ISO? a data disk? a SVCD? an audio disk)? If we knew that, maybe we'd know where to start looking for a misconfiguration or missing backend subsystem. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
On Thu, 9 Jun 2005 10:37:21 -0700 (PDT) Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thanks to all but in hindsight, I guess I should have posted my emerge -Du world as it does not reveal the upgrade for gdm either. So I guess at one point, gdm got pulled in as part of something else that no longer is on my system? How would I find other programs that may exist in a similiar state? emerge -a depclean You need to study your emerge manpage ;-) Zac You're rightgdm comes up during depclean. Actually, as you point out, my answer was in the emerge page all along. The man page states that emerge generates a list of packages which it expects to be installed by checking the system package list and the world file. Which brings me to my final questions...where is this package list? Is it, as one person already stated, simply the list of directories, etc. below /var/lib/pkg? And if it is, then how does one do an emerge -Du on the package list, not just the world list, thereby updating EVERYTHING on your system? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] konqueror / devices
media:/ in the location bar works. Pluging in usb devices automatically appear. The also show up on my desktop. My problem was that I removed the old Device button when trying to add a new media button. The solution was to edit the .kde3.4/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders/services/devices.desktop properties and changed: name: media.desktop URL: media:/ icon: kcmdevices then copy .kde3.4/share/apps/konqsidebartng/virtual_folders/services/devices.desktop to .kde3.4/share/apps/konqsidebartng/entries Finally right click on the sidebar and Add New | Roll back to system default. Thank you, Roy Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 08 Jun 2005 11:31:52 -0500, Roy Wright wrote: OK, I give. How do you configure media? I tried: * Add New | Web SideBar Module ** Name = Media ** URL = media:/ But this gives a An error occurred while loading media:/; Malformed URL media:/. when clicked. I just right-clicked the devices item, selected Properties and changed the URL to media:/ Does media:/ work if you type it in the location bar? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
--- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The man page states that emerge generates a list of packages which it expects to be installed by checking the system package list and the world file. Which brings me to my final questions...where is this package list? Is it, as one person already stated, simply the list of directories, etc. below /var/lib/pkg? And if it is, then how does one do an emerge -Du on the package list, not just the world list, thereby updating EVERYTHING on your system? The system package list comes from the profile linked from /etc/make.profile. Portage uses stacked or cascading profiles now so it uses all the package files of your profile and all the ones inherited from it's parents. In the emerge manpage it says that the system class is a subset of the world class so emerge -uDN world does everything. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] iptables and servername
Hi, I'm having trouble with iptables and http. Before i have activated iptables i could access my server with a name in my local /etc/hosts, after activating iptables i can only connect with the ipaddress or his FQDN. This local name is different or does not exists in the host file on the server. For ssh or ping i can use the server name. My rule: ACCEPT tcp -- anywhere rivendell.arda.org tcp spts:1024:65535 dpt:http-alt state NEW ACCEPT tcp -- 192.168.123.0/24 rivendell.arda.org tcp spts:1024:65535 dpt:ssh state NEW TIA Patrick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
At 10:55 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Hi Rob, What do you mean it didn't work out? More specific please. Instead of using the scsibus address like -dev=0,0,0 or whatever you simply substitute -dev=/dev/hdc. Zac Hi Zac, Sorry for not being specific enough. What I mean was that by specifying /dev/hdc as the cd burner, the only program I could get to work was x-cdroast. None of the other burner programs that I emerged and tested would work with the ATAPI interface. So that is why I went back to the deprecated ide-scsi interface. So again I am asking, did I do something wrong? Or am I just caugh in a temporary transition to /dev/hdc? Thanks alot!! Rob -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Hi Holly, I was using the 2.6.11 (I believe, but now I'm not sure of the specific rev level, but it was definitely 2.6.x). I may have just misconfigured something. But x-cdroast continuously gave me warnings that my performance would suffer unless I went back to ide-scsi. Of course there is... don't you think you'd have heard about it if none of us could write CD's and DVDs? I mean, that would be *news* ;-) . That message is... well, not untrue, but misleading. We've been beyond the 2.5 stage long enough that while the issues are not fixed (due to the developer of cdrecord being in philosophical conflict with the kernel devs), they have long ago had workarounds developed for them. So CD recording works fairly normally under Linux-- certainly under X, where there are several frontends available that record such media reliably. Under the console, a read-through of the man pages is in order due to 1) specific settings needed to run cdrecord using an ATAPI recorder rather than a SCSI one; 2) additional programs needed to record DVDs (rather than CDs) or special formats (like ISOs). But it's all pretty straightforward, and works well (I haven't burned a coaster in months). What precisely is the problem you're having? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list Dear list, Here is my experience: I followed the kernel warnings that ide-scsi was depricated, then found out that most of the burner programs would not work or worked lousy with an ide ATAPI interface. So I went back to the hdc=ide-scsi kernel option. I would like to, however, follow the correct procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Sincerely, Rob. What kernel was this under, and what kernel are you using now? In the very early days of 2.6, one really had to explicitly run ide-cd (the replacement for ide-scsi) in order to get things working, but again, we are far beyond that now. Ide-cd is automatically compiled into the kernel (you don't even get to choose it, it's just there), and /dev/hdc (assuming that that's where your CD/DVD burner is) will use it when it is detected to be a writeable device during the boot process. So again, I ask what precisely your issue is what goes wrong when you try to burn a CD or DVD? What commands are you using to do so, and what type of disk are you trying to create (a bootable ISO? a data disk? a SVCD? an audio disk)? If we knew that, maybe we'd know where to start looking for a misconfiguration or missing backend subsystem. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
--- Zac Medico [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: --- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The man page states that emerge generates a list of packages which it expects to be installed by checking the system package list and the world file. Which brings me to my final questions...where is this package list? Is it, as one person already stated, simply the list of directories, etc. below /var/lib/pkg? And if it is, then how does one do an emerge -Du on the package list, not just the world list, thereby updating EVERYTHING on your system? The system package list comes from the profile linked from /etc/make.profile. Portage uses stacked or cascading profiles now so it uses all the package files of your profile and all the ones inherited from it's parents. In the emerge manpage it says that the system class is a subset of the world class so emerge -uDN world does everything. Zac I forgot to mention revdep-rebuild. The commands I would use for a complete update are as follows: emerge -auDN world emerge -a depclean revdep-rebuild -a The revdep-rebuild is needed to fix any dynamic links that may have been broken in the first 2 commands. I recommend the maintenance release of of revdep-rebuild because it allows you to mask binary packages with SEARCH_DIRS_MASK in make.conf. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=62644 Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Rob schreef: At 10:55 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Hi Rob, What do you mean it didn't work out? More specific please. Instead of using the scsibus address like -dev=0,0,0 or whatever you simply substitute -dev=/dev/hdc. Zac Hi Zac, Sorry for not being specific enough. What I mean was that by specifying /dev/hdc as the cd burner, the only program I could get to work was x-cdroast. None of the other burner programs that I emerged and tested would work with the ATAPI interface. So that is why I went back to the deprecated ide-scsi interface. So again I am asking, did I do something wrong? Or am I just caugh in a temporary transition to /dev/hdc? Thanks alot!! Rob Rob, I regret to inform you that your syntax seems to be all wrong, and this stands a good chance of being your problem. I don't myself use cdrecord directly all that often, but I did manage to remember cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus which produced this output: Cdrecord-Clone 2.01 (i686-pc-linux-gnu) Copyright (C) 1995-2004 Jörg Schilling on-the-fly encryption (version 1.0-rc1) built-in, (C) 2004,2005 Maximilian Decker NOTE: this version of cdrecord is an inofficial (modified) release of cdrecord and thus may have bugs that are not present in the original version. Please send bug reports and support requests to burbon04 at gmx.de. For more information please see http://burbon04.gmxhome.de/linux/CDREncryption.html. The original author should not be bothered with problems of this version. cdrecord: Warning: Running on Linux-2.6.11-gentoo-r8 cdrecord: There are unsettled issues with Linux-2.5 and newer. cdrecord: If you have unexpected problems, please try Linux-2.4 or Solaris. scsidev: 'ATAPI' devname: 'ATAPI' scsibus: -2 target: -2 lun: -2 Warning: Using ATA Packet interface. Warning: The related Linux kernel interface code seems to be unmaintained. Warning: There is absolutely NO DMA, operations thus are slow. Using libscg version 'schily-0.8'. scsibus0: 0,0,0 0) '_NEC' 'DVD_RW ND-2510A ' '2.15' Removable CD-ROM 0,1,0 1) * 0,2,0 2) * 0,3,0 3) * 0,4,0 4) * 0,5,0 5) * 0,6,0 6) * 0,7,0 7) * so the correct syntax to access my burner would be cdrecord dev=0,0,0 whatever comes after that. The whole /dev/hdc thing is just not correct (it's dev= whatever). Check the man page for more info. Hope this helps get you pointed in the right direction. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
--- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry for not being specific enough. What I mean was that by specifying /dev/hdc as the cd burner, the only program I could get to work was x-cdroast. None of the other burner programs that I emerged and tested would work with the ATAPI interface. So that is why I went back to the deprecated ide-scsi interface. So again I am asking, did I do something wrong? Or am I just caugh in a temporary transition to /dev/hdc? Thanks alot!! Rob All the cd/dvd burning frontends are just that, frontends. They all use the same backend command line programs to handle the actual burning. These backend programs include cdrecord, growisofs, and cdrdao. This means that theoretically (maybe with a little troubleshooting), any frontend will work with the ATAPI interface. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Get on-the-go sports scores, stock quotes, news and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/mobile.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Rob schreef: At 10:55 AM 6/9/2005, you wrote: --- Rob [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: procedure, that is, use an ide atapi interface, only it didn't work out for me the first time. Any help or advice would be appreciated. Hi Rob, What do you mean it didn't work out? More specific please. Instead of using the scsibus address like -dev=0,0,0 or whatever you simply substitute -dev=/dev/hdc. Zac Hi Zac, Sorry for not being specific enough. What I mean was that by specifying /dev/hdc as the cd burner, the only program I could get to work was x-cdroast. None of the other burner programs that I emerged and tested would work with the ATAPI interface. So that is why I went back to the deprecated ide-scsi interface. So again I am asking, did I do something wrong? Or am I just caugh in a temporary transition to /dev/hdc? Thanks alot!! Rob Actually (since I don't use cdrecord often), I noted down the command I must use to generate and burn an iso file, so here the 'burn' section: cdrecord -v -dao -eject dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 driveropts=burnfree /wherever/the/file/is.iso for example. So the syntax is dev=ATAPI=#,#,# ,depending on what scanbus told you your device was. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Colin wrote: Maybe you can answer this question. I have an ATA/66 hard drive (66 MBps) on an ATA/133 bus. If the bus is limited to 133 MBps and the drive cannot transfer data at more than 66 MBps, how come burst transfers (as reported by hdparm -tT /dev/hdg) are at about 1.6 GBps? Not that I'm complaining, of course, it just seems illogical :-) Is it try-to-stump-Richard-day again already??? ;- It is because of the way the -T test is implemented, which is to just read the first block of data over and over again. Because hdparm doesn't specify the O_DIRECT flag on open, the kernel will buffer the data in system memory for the first read, and return the same for all subsequent reads. So the number returned equals 1/2 of your system memory bandwidth, since copying the buffer from one memory location to another involves both reading and writing. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
--- Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually (since I don't use cdrecord often), I noted down the command I must use to generate and burn an iso file, so here the 'burn' section: cdrecord -v -dao -eject dev=ATAPI:0,0,0 driveropts=burnfree /wherever/the/file/is.iso for example. So the syntax is dev=ATAPI=#,#,# ,depending on what scanbus told you your device was. Cool, I've beed using dev=/dev/hdc type syntax all this time. I just found out that I need cdrecord -scanbus dev=ATAPI: to get relevent info to use your syntax. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fstab entry
Martins Steinbergs wrote: hi, what's wrong with these, users cant access partitions (Access denied to /mnt/win_j.), only root can go there. fstab /dev/hda1/mnt/win_cntfsdefaults,ro,user0 0 /dev/hdb8/mnt/win_jvfatdefaults,rw,user0 0 Martins Shouldn't user be users? On my cdrom, for example, I have noauto,ro,users for the opts. mh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On 09 Jun 2005 10:17:30 +0100, Govind Chandra wrote: cdrecord -scanbus says there are issues with kernel 2.5 and newer. Ignore it. It's only a warning and we have moved on quite a way since 2.5. Indeed. With 2.6, the kernel devs would prefer you to use the device node: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrw (with cdrw being a symlink to an actual device, but you can use /dev/cdrom, /dev/hdX, whatever) The cdrecord author still prefers the dev=x,x,x syntax. This was the subject of much fighting between them. The choice is yours though. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Holly Bostick wrote: so the correct syntax to access my burner would be cdrecord dev=0,0,0 whatever comes after that. The whole /dev/hdc thing is just not correct (it's dev= whatever). Check the man page for more info. Actually Holly, both methods should work. I use dev=/dev/cdrw without any trouble at all. From what I remember reading, the kernel devs prefer this, because to them, creating an artificial numbering system (bus, id, lun) for a bus topography (IDE, SATA) that doesn't use it to be just silly. They consider the whole ide-scsi thing to be an unnecessary hack. Plus, identifying things by their dynamically-assigned address on a bus doesn't work well in a hot-pluggable world. The cdrecord author prefers the dev=x,x,x syntax, because then the same syntax is used to access all CD-R[W] drives on all platforms. Neither side seems willing to accept the other's viewpoint as valid. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Rob wrote: Hi Holly, I was using the 2.6.11 (I believe, but now I'm not sure of the specific rev level, but it was definitely 2.6.x). I may have just misconfigured something. But x-cdroast continuously gave me warnings that my performance would suffer unless I went back to ide-scsi. Did performance actually suffer? Or was it just dire warnings that you were doing something dangerous, stupid, or likely to cause sterility. Usually with cdrecord that means you are on the right track! On that note, you might want to try running cdrecord from the command line. The command I use is: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree blank=fast file.iso If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take that out. Also if your drive is on a channel all by itself, you can remove the -immed option. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge curiosity
--- reg hughson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I do understand that but clearly on my system, emerge -DuN world does not do everything as it misses gdm. Searching back through my old emerge Like I said, use emerge -a depclean to spot packages like that. If you want any of those packages just add them to your world file where they belong. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Holly Bostick wrote: Rob, I regret to inform you that your syntax seems to be all wrong, and this stands a good chance of being your problem. I don't myself use cdrecord directly all that often, but I did manage to remember cdrecord dev=ATAPI -scanbus Last time I checked (2.6.11), dev=ATAPI doesnt work, since its not related to a particular device node file, the kernel doesn't know whether you have write permissions to that device, so it denies write-related commands. As for which syntax is theoretically correct, thats the subject of an eternal discussion. The cdrecord author thinks ATAPI:x,y,z is correct, the kernel developers thing dev=/dev/cdrom is correct. But right now, you'll probably find that dev=/dev/cdrom is the only one that works when you actually come to writing. Daniel -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
maxim wexler wrote: Now, before burning it, I'm aware there have been changes made in the burning process since the 2.6 kernel. My experience using cdrecord has only been wtth 2.4's, all coaster-making events :( From what I've seen on line it should be as easy as #cdrecord /dev/hdc/file . Ha! Fat chance! Could you please append some pointers? Sure, first I would do: cdrecord -checkdrive dev=/dev/hdc -vv This will output a bunch of stuff. Towards the end, you should see something like this: Drive current speed: 16 Drive default speed: 16 Drive max speed: 16 Selected speed : 16 Using generic SCSI-3/mmc CD-R/CD-RW driver (mmc_cdr). Driver flags : MMC-3 SWABAUDIO BURNFREE Supported modes: TAO PACKET SAO SAO/R96P SAO/R96R RAW/R96R Drive buf size : 1605888 = 1568 KB If so, then we are ready to proceed with burning. Here is the command that I use: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso If your drive doesn't support burnfree, just take out the whole driveropt=burnfree part. But, something just occurred to medoes this system have 2 CD burners, or a burner and a reader? If not, you will have much trouble to burn a CD while running off the live cd. You may want to copy the .iso file over the network or to a USB key, and burn it on another system. Any windows software should also be able to burn an ISO without much trouble. Just make sure you open the ISO as a 'project', don't add it as a file to a new project...in other words, if you see tmp.iso in a list of files somewhere, you went the wrong way. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] So how does one write a CD in 2.6?
Richard Fish schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: so the correct syntax to access my burner would be cdrecord dev=0,0,0 whatever comes after that. The whole /dev/hdc thing is just not correct (it's dev= whatever). Check the man page for more info. Actually Holly, both methods should work. I use dev=/dev/cdrw without any trouble at all. From what I remember reading, the kernel devs prefer this, because to them, creating an artificial numbering system (bus, id, lun) for a bus topography (IDE, SATA) that doesn't use it to be just silly. They consider the whole ide-scsi thing to be an unnecessary hack. Plus, identifying things by their dynamically-assigned address on a bus doesn't work well in a hot-pluggable world. The cdrecord author prefers the dev=x,x,x syntax, because then the same syntax is used to access all CD-R[W] drives on all platforms. Neither side seems willing to accept the other's viewpoint as valid. -Richard Fair enough, Richard. I'm sure that dev=/dev/hdc would likely work. However, it would have to be /dev/hdc (the original device name), because I cannot necessarily be sure that I will always have /dev/cdrw, for example. Atm, my DVD burner as hdc is symlinked to /dev/cdrom, /dev/cdrw, /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdr, so I could probably use any of those. But that's all udev's doing, and under other Linuxes, other versions of udev, or even with other drives, I'd have to check the symlinks every time to make sure that my DVD+R wasn't now *only* linked to /dev/dvd and /dev/dvdr, and no more to /dev/cdrom, and /dev/cdrw. Of course I'm sure that /dev/hdc would always work under all circumstances unless I physically moved the drive. But if I scan the bus and see what cdrecord thinks, then that will also always work. So I agree that both viewpoints are valid, but not once you start adding in the symlinks to the real device, because that's a distribution-specific config issue and not a 'base' kernel or program issue... and if you're distro-hopping or multi-booting, the most irritating thing is to have to remember that under X distro the command is one thing, and under Y distro, the command is another. To me, anyway. I have a hard enough time remembering CLI commands as it is :-) . Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] grub still broke
Richard Fish wrote: cdrecord dev=/dev/cdrom -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso Sorry, it is getting late here. For you, that command line should be: cdrecord dev=/dev/hdc -immed -eject driveropt=burnfree file.iso Someday I will proofread my messages before posting... -RIchard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Newbie problem with picture size
I just finished installing Gentoo to a laptop and I seem to have some kind of a problem. The picture during and after boot takes about quarter of the screen surface, in the middle. The effect is similar as when I booted the live-cd, except that in that case the picture expanded to a full screen right after the boot choice. What am I doing wrong? Is this a kernel option problem? I did a stage1 installation and did not use genkernel, so this is the first thing that comes to mind, but I really don't know which options I should check. What else it could be, I have no clue. I have limited linux experience, so any help would be greatly appreciated. -- - Janne Vänttinen -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
Richard Fish wrote: Alec Shaner wrote: I recently purchased a WD 160GB external USB drive and can't get it to perform reliably on my server. It works fine when connected to my workstation machine (a P4P800 ASUS MB with USB 2.0 support). The server only has 1.1 USB support, but the problem is that it starts out copying fine at about 11MB/sec and then after a bit slows to a crawl and stays that way. I have formatted it with an ext3 filesystem. Here's all the info if anyone has an idea. With USB 1.1 you are not going to get more than about 1.2MB/s throughput, because the top speed is 11 megabits/sec, not megabytes: 11 mbit / 8 bits-per-pyte = 1.375. The initial burst you see at 11MB/sec is likely due to buffering. -Richard Once the buffer fills up would you expect it to work fine at 1.2MB/s? I wish I had kept the logs, but it was extremely slow (much slower than 1.2). I was copying a series of ~70MB files over and it would work fine on about the first 5 or so files before croaking. I eventually had to kill the job. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Sound
I'm having difficulty with the sound for system notification within kde. root and all users apart from one have it working. The one that does not still has sound for xmms and other apps, just none for kde system notifications. I'm sure it must be a permission thing, but what? I've looked at everyones settings and they appear the same. Its driving me insane!!! Its only something small but. Any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Hardware problem
Hi, This isn't a Gentoo related problem, but a hardware one (I know next to nothing about hardware). First of all I have a Micron computer with a floppy drive, DVD-read drive (/dev/hdc), CDR drive (/dev/hdd), a master harddrive (/dev/hde), and a slave harddrive (/dev/hdf). Yesterday my computer was running fine. Today my dad put in a DVD burner where the CDR was previously (/dev/hdd). He also took both harddrives out and put them back in because the ribbon (whatever it's called, the grey cable that goes into each drive) was twisted. Now, when I try to start up my computer, it doesn't start at all, it just goes Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)... over and over. It doesn't show the splash screen for the video card, or for the manufacturer (Micron). Any idea why it would do that? What do the beeps mean? I put the CDR back in instead of the DVD burner, and it still gives the same error. Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Thanks for any help, Bill Six __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] mod_log_sql can't connect do db and can't write to file
Hi, I did installed mod_log_sql and and setup the conf file using default options as template. well, I also followed a tutorial that actually is for a old version but following the default options I did the adjusts. I did create the database and executed the query to create database but nothing is logged to mysql and even to sql file and all I get is the errors below: [error] (13)Permission denied: attempted append of local preserve file '/var/log/apache2/mod_slog_sql_preserve.sql' but failed. [error] mod_log_sql: child spawned but unable to open database link I've changed log file owner to apache user and group and also changed permition to 666 but even with this apache can't to write to sql file. I also did recreated the apache user permission and apache still can't open database link. I really don't know what to do since it appears to be so easy to setup and I really did all the things that articles says. Have someone any idea about? My mod_log_sql version is 1.97 Tks in advice, claudinei matos -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Bad performance with external USB disk
--- Alec Shaner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Richard Fish wrote: Alec Shaner wrote: I recently purchased a WD 160GB external USB drive and can't get it to perform reliably on my server. It works fine when connected to my workstation machine (a P4P800 ASUS MB with USB 2.0 support). The server only has 1.1 USB support, but the problem is that it starts out copying fine at about 11MB/sec and then after a bit slows to a crawl and stays that way. I have formatted it with an ext3 filesystem. Here's all the info if anyone has an idea. With USB 1.1 you are not going to get more than about 1.2MB/s throughput, because the top speed is 11 megabits/sec, not megabytes: 11 mbit / 8 bits-per-pyte = 1.375. The initial burst you see at 11MB/sec is likely due to buffering. -Richard Once the buffer fills up would you expect it to work fine at 1.2MB/s? I wish I had kept the logs, but it was extremely slow (much slower than 1.2). I was copying a series of ~70MB files over and it would work fine on about the first 5 or so files before croaking. I eventually had to kill the job. Hi Alec, I suspect Richard is right on. If you run free before your start the copy and then again after the burst you should see that it simply ate up the available memory. You should do a real benchmark, possibly including hdparm. If there is really a problem then hopefully you will see some errors in dmesg or the syslog (/var/log/messages). You may need to enable debugging for the filesystem and/or usb-storage driver. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Sound
I'm sure it must be a permission thing, but what? I've looked at everyones settings and they appear the same. Is arts running (see kcontrol)? Best regards ce -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
Zac Medico wrote: --- Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address Hi Ognjen, Somebody already said that the problem must be that you have the noexec option on that partition because of the way it is mounted. See the manpage for mount. Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ Sorry I didnt get that reply. Either way to answer that question, no - i do not have the noexec option in my fstab (where the drive is automounted). This is the line in my fstab: /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage reiserfs notail,exec,user What could the problem be? It is strange because if I type: mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage -o exec it works. What do I need to add to my fstab to get it working normally? thanks. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
Bill Six wrote: Hi, This isn't a Gentoo related problem, but a hardware one (I know next to nothing about hardware). First of all I have a Micron computer with a floppy drive, DVD-read drive (/dev/hdc), CDR drive (/dev/hdd), a master harddrive (/dev/hde), and a slave harddrive (/dev/hdf). Yesterday my computer was running fine. Today my dad put in a DVD burner where the CDR was previously (/dev/hdd). He also took both harddrives out and put them back in because the ribbon (whatever it's called, the grey cable that goes into each drive) was twisted. Now, when I try to start up my computer, it doesn't start at all, it just goes Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)... over and over. It doesn't show the splash screen for the video card, or for the manufacturer (Micron). Any idea why it would do that? What do the beeps mean? I put the CDR back in instead of the DVD burner, and it still gives the same error. Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Thanks for any help, Bill Six make sure that the ribbon cable is oriented correctly. In most cases the striped edge (red/blue or some other color) is next to the power plugin and that the striped edge is connected to the #1 pin of your MB connector. -- Ted Ozolins(VE7TVO) Westbank, B. C -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
On Thursday 09 June 2005 23:45, Bill Six wrote: Hi, This isn't a Gentoo related problem, but a hardware one (I know next to nothing about hardware). First of all I have a Micron computer with a floppy drive, DVD-read drive (/dev/hdc), CDR drive (/dev/hdd), a master harddrive (/dev/hde), and a slave harddrive (/dev/hdf). Yesterday my computer was running fine. Today my dad put in a DVD burner where the CDR was previously (/dev/hdd). He also took both harddrives out and put them back in because the ribbon (whatever it's called, the grey cable that goes into each drive) was twisted. Now, when I try to start up my computer, it doesn't start at all, it just goes Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)... over and over. It doesn't show the splash screen for the video card, or for the manufacturer (Micron). Any idea why it would do that? What do the beeps mean? I put the CDR back in instead of the DVD burner, and it still gives the same error. Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Thanks for any help, Bill Six I bet, the cables are wrong sided now. I also bet, the cables were 'twisted', so that Pin1 would be on Pin 1 etc. Check the cables! IDE errors because of wrongly connected cables will totally prevent booting. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh question
I've run into a problem trying to emerge gnome-vfs on one of my systems. It complains about libstdc++.la but there is a bug report that indicates running fix_libtool_files.sh will fix it. How do I know which old-gcc-version to use? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
Bill Six schreef: Hi, This isn't a Gentoo related problem, but a hardware one (I know next to nothing about hardware). First of all I have a Micron computer with a floppy drive, DVD-read drive (/dev/hdc), CDR drive (/dev/hdd), a master harddrive (/dev/hde), and a slave harddrive (/dev/hdf). Yesterday my computer was running fine. Today my dad put in a DVD burner where the CDR was previously (/dev/hdd). He also took both harddrives out and put them back in because the ribbon (whatever it's called, the grey cable that goes into each drive) was twisted. Now, when I try to start up my computer, it doesn't start at all, it just goes Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)... over and over. It doesn't show the splash screen for the video card, or for the manufacturer (Micron). Any idea why it would do that? What do the beeps mean? The beeps tell you why it would do that. Depending on your BIOS type (AMI, Award) the pattern of the beeps is meant to tell you what has failed. The information as to what pattern means what is available on the Internet, but you may not have access to the web, or know what kind of BIOS you have, and researching all of that now would be a distraction. I put the CDR back in instead of the DVD burner, and it still gives the same error. Since replacing the DVD with the original CD didn't help, that's probably not the problem-- and I wouldn't have thought it was anyway. I've assembled a fair number of computers in my time, so from experience I can take an educated guess that the problem is also not the removal and replacement of the hdd cables (if it was, the system would probably boot up to the point where it needed to access a drive and *then* fail). The fact that you don't even get a POST (that's the part where you count the memory and that shows the logos you aren't seeing), strongly suggests that what has happened is that your dad misattached* one or more *power* cables when attaching them to the drives. The motherboard seems to have power, or else you wouldn't even have beeps. *I say misattached, but it's probably not his fault, if this is in fact the problem. [Inexact explanation follows] The thing is, current power supplies have a certain number of leads (maybe 3 or 4), and then these leads are split into multiple connector types (floppy, hdd, motherboard), of which you maybe have 10 in total. What one (and I don't mean just your dad, I've been bitten by this more than once myself) fails to realize is that just because there may be 5 connectors on one lead, this is not the same as 5 separate leads, and all of the connectors on any given lead are sharing the power output of that particular lead. If the group of devices connected to a single lead via the various split connectors demands more power than the lead as a whole is designed to output, the lead won't output anything (to prevent damage to itself or to your components). So it often happens that one has to fiddle with which set of power connectors must be connected to which devices so that the system will boot. If you bought this computer pre-assembled, that was all done by the OEM; it's not surprising that your dad wouldn't have thought that any old hdd power connector couldn't be connected to whatever hdd it was closest to, regardless of what other devices were already on that particular splitter. It's an extremely tedious operation, switching around power connectors, but worth a try. While you're back there, make sure that the IDE ribbon cables are correctly plugged into the hard drives (it's quite easy to reattach them crooked-- i.e., not correctly pin-matched, with some pins not in their holes, despite the fact that this is not supposed to be possible). Anyway, that's what I'd check first, but maybe somebody else has a better idea. In any case, hope it's helpful. Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Awww, give him a break. How else is he going to learn? Don't discourage him just because he didn't get it quite right :-) . Holly Thanks for any help, Bill Six __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh question
On Thu, 2005-06-09 at 15:51 -0700, Grant wrote: I've run into a problem trying to emerge gnome-vfs on one of my systems. It complains about libstdc++.la but there is a bug report that indicates running fix_libtool_files.sh will fix it. How do I know which old-gcc-version to use? It should be obvious from the error message; the old gcc version should be part of the path in the messsage. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] tracking ebuilds
I want to be able track the apache and subversion ebuilds. Bugs with different versions, why one version is not used over another... Is there a mailing list where this information is discussed. I found portage-dev but is seems specifically for development of portage and not necessarily where package maintainers discuss issues. I am probably missing something obvious but I would be greatful for any clues. Thanks. -- Andy -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh question
On Thu, June 9, 2005 11:51 pm, Grant said: I've run into a problem trying to emerge gnome-vfs on one of my systems. It complains about libstdc++.la but there is a bug report that indicates running fix_libtool_files.sh will fix it. How do I know which old-gcc-version to use? The version that appears in the error message. You haven't posted the error, but it is probably a file not found error. The path to that file includes the gcc version it is trying to use, i.e. the old one. -- Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
Ognjen Bezanov schreef: Zac Medico wrote: --- Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I set the portage_tmpdir in my make.conf file, and have tried emerging some packages. But there is a problem, because i keep getting errors no matter what I emerge, the error looks like this: ..etc/ebuild.sh ./configure: /bin/sh: bad interpreter: Permission denied and yes, I am running as root. Anyone got any tips? P.S please CC me, i dont trust my email address Hi Ognjen, Somebody already said that the problem must be that you have the noexec option on that partition because of the way it is mounted. See the manpage for mount. Sorry I didnt get that reply. Either way to answer that question, no - i do not have the noexec option in my fstab (where the drive is automounted). This is the line in my fstab: /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage reiserfs notail,exec,user What could the problem be? It is strange because if I type: mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage -o exec it works. What do I need to add to my fstab to get it working normally? thanks. Maybe nothing-- what are the permissions of the /mnt/storage *folder*? It doesn't matter much whether the files inside the folder are executeable if the folder itself does not allow files to be executed from within it. Hope this helps. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fix_libtool_files.sh question
Grant schreef: I've run into a problem trying to emerge gnome-vfs on one of my systems. It complains about libstdc++.la but there is a bug report that indicates running fix_libtool_files.sh will fix it. How do I know which old-gcc-version to use? - Grant It's in the error message. Just before the whole exit here, exit there message, there's a line detailing some failure to find some file in gcc-version.something.or.other. That's the old GCC version which is no longer valid (which is why the files aren't there, they're in the folder of the new GCC version), and so needs to be fixed with fix_libtool_files.sh. See, it all makes sense :-). -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] CDRW media source
On Thu, June 9, 2005 6:43 pm, Rob said: My experience is that cheap is OK for general backup and mp3 archiving. However, for live CD's and boot CD's, always use the most expensive disks, back up on the speed, and always do a complete erase, never quick erase. Surely a backup is m ore important than an install disc? If an install disc errors, you can write another from the ISO. If a backup disc fails, you're stuffed. That has been my key to success in the critical CDRW area. If it's critical, use CD-R, not CDRW. I find RW discs to be more trouble than they're worth. They take ages to write, and always get an error when it is least convenient. CD-Rs cost pennies. You don't need really exopensive ones (they are usually the same discs in a branded case anyway) just something decent like Ritek. -- Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
On Fri, June 10, 2005 12:07 am, Holly Bostick said: Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Awww, give him a break. How else is he going to learn? On his own computer? -- Neil Bothwick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware problem
Holly Bostick wrote: Bill Six schreef: Hi, This isn't a Gentoo related problem, but a hardware one (I know next to nothing about hardware). First of all I have a Micron computer with a floppy drive, DVD-read drive (/dev/hdc), CDR drive (/dev/hdd), a master harddrive (/dev/hde), and a slave harddrive (/dev/hdf). Yesterday my computer was running fine. Today my dad put in a DVD burner where the CDR was previously (/dev/hdd). He also took both harddrives out and put them back in because the ribbon (whatever it's called, the grey cable that goes into each drive) was twisted. Now, when I try to start up my computer, it doesn't start at all, it just goes Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)...Beep (wait 3 seconds)... over and over. It doesn't show the splash screen for the video card, or for the manufacturer (Micron). If its beeping - then the first check would be to check the graphics hardware and the RAM. Normally if a computer doesn't even post it is due to one of those not being seated quite right. A lot of motherboards i've seen have IDE cables near the RAM slots - is it possible that the memory has become dislodged (it shouldn't happen.. but sometimes it does) Its not as likely, but there is the CPU too - your PC can't run anything if the CPU has been fried - but i haven't heard a PC beep when the CPU has frazled due to the above reason, it can't run anything. http://bioscentral.com/beepcodes/awardbeep.htm There is a list of beep codes for AWARD based BIOSes. If your machine isn't based on teh award bios then you will have to look at the correct page (list on that page). If that doesn't seem to work, a suggestion would be to disconnect drives / remove extra cards and see if you can get the machine booting from a basic configuration then add things back. Any idea why it would do that? What do the beeps mean? The beeps tell you why it would do that. Depending on your BIOS type (AMI, Award) the pattern of the beeps is meant to tell you what has failed. The information as to what pattern means what is available on the Internet, but you may not have access to the web, or know what kind of BIOS you have, and researching all of that now would be a distraction. I put the CDR back in instead of the DVD burner, and it still gives the same error. Since replacing the DVD with the original CD didn't help, that's probably not the problem-- and I wouldn't have thought it was anyway. That'll be cos the drive isn't hte problem - I'm guessing at RAM or Video. snip In any case, hope it's helpful. Last time I let my dad touch my computer haha. Awww, give him a break. How else is he going to learn? Don't discourage him just because he didn't get it quite right :-) . Parents and PC's never mix ;) Holly Thanks for any help, Bill Six __ Discover Yahoo! Use Yahoo! to plan a weekend, have fun online and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/ HTH -- Tim Igoe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://tim.igoe.me.uk - Personal Site http://tv.igoe.me.uk - UK TV Guide Computers are like Air-con, open windows and they stop working! signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge error Bad interpretor
--- Ognjen Bezanov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry I didnt get that reply. Either way to answer that question, no - i do not have the noexec option in my fstab (where the drive is automounted). This is the line in my fstab: /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage reiserfs notail,exec,user What could the problem be? It is strange because if I type: mount /dev/hda6 /mnt/storage -o exec it works. What do I need to add to my fstab to get it working normally? In the mount manpage it says the user option implies noexec. You need to explicitly override it with the exec option. Also note that if you miss a message you can still read them in the archives: http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user%40lists.gentoo.org/ http://marc.10east.com/?l=gentoo-userr=1w=2 Zac __ Discover Yahoo! Stay in touch with email, IM, photo sharing and more. Check it out! http://discover.yahoo.com/stayintouch.html -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
