[gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? Thanks for any insight. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006 20:50:52 -0500, Philip Webb wrote: I no longer had any need for Screen, as KDE desktops did it all. What have KDE desktops got to do with virtual terminals? Moreover, all that 'control-a' stuff was a big pain in the head. It doesn't have to be Ctrl-A, that's only the default. -- Neil Bothwick If you think the problem is bad now, just wait until we've solved it. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:13:01 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: An alternative is 'nohup' - if you know that you are gonna run a long task and wish to be able to shutdown your terminal window. e.g: $ nohup emerge kdelibs $ exit Shouldn't that be nohup emerge kdelibs ? I've not use nohup for a few years, not since I discovered screen, but ISTR you need to run in in the background. -- Neil Bothwick Just got a new car for my wifeGreat Trade! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:37, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 22:30, Dale wrote: It takes a bit to get used to it and figure out the commands but it is neat just to do what I have listed here. I still can not figure out how to make it scroll back though. Need to specify 'stuff' in /etc/screenrc under the section xterm tweaks. There's another thread somewhere in this ML that explains it somewhat. Oh, I thought it was enabled by default. That explains why it don't work then. Maybe now I can google it. I found it! Search gmane, or google, for screen buffer in gnome terminal. -- Regards, Mick pgpGgA0CX79Lv.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 04:14, Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 17:40, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s': Hi, if you don't use openoffice a lot, it is not worth to compile it. Just use the binary package. It will take some seconds more to start, but once it runs, there is hardly any difference. I disagree. On my x86 laptop, OO.o started u virutally instantly and intergrated well with KDE, including using KDE Open/Save dialogs and my qt/kde theme. On my x86_64 desktop, before the source package would complie, OO.o would take 5-10 seconds to start, then use different colors and widgets from the rest of the desktop, and use some horribly primitive (to my mind) Open/Save dialogs. This was one of the reasons I started using KOffice when I could. Integration with the user env and speed is one reason why compiling from source is advantageous over the binary installation. I don't mean to talk you out of using KOffice because it's improving significantly every time I check it out. However, if looks/env variables are of importance to you on OOo then you can set these up in your .bashrc. Add: # Make OOo use KDE env. export OOO_FORCE_DESKTOP=kde or gnome, or default (the ugly one!) and OOo will launch with your preferred looks. -- Regards, Mick pgpcs4w81EkOk.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
Well you're not going to get something that isn't dual layer any more, so that's not a factor. LG drives are good if you suspect you might ever use dvd-ram discs, since most of their models have the capability. NEC, Pioneer and I think ASUS all use the same hardware, they will only differ in the firmware. The NEC ND-3550AG was a great burner, probably has been replaced by a newer model now, but it cost around $35 (at newegg) last I saw. My 2 year old NEC 3500 still does a fine job, firmware updates are readily available (especially ones with improvements to booktype setting etc), and there is even a native (i386) linux app to flash them with. It would probably be a wise idea to steer clear of liteon drives. Their CD writers were just about the gold standard, but the quality of their dvd writers has slipped. On Wednesday 06 December 2006 8:52 pm, Michael Gorden wrote: I think pioneer also does good job...to me at least 2006/12/4, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, I plan to buy a DVD burner. I currently have a LG CD RW and I like it since it works so well with Linux. I would like to know what drive I should get that will work best and be able to burn with the most options under Linux. I am looking here right now: http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.asp?Brand=1623N=200015+500 01623Submit=ENEManufactory=1623SubCategory=5 I like newegg. I can get things next day from them since I am not to far from Memphis and they have a warehouse there. I'm looking for recommendations from people that have some DVD drives already. I do want it to be re-writeable. Dual layer is OK if not to much more expensive. If you have something other than LG, I'm still listening. The biggest thing is the different kinds of them. Thanks Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list pgp10vTRldhjy.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
Michael Gorden wrote: I think you should run etc-update once... I'm seeing this as well (udev-103 and have run etc-update). I notice that 50-udev.rules has references to /sbin/udev_run_devd|hotplug These files do not exist - however /lib/udev/udev_run_devd|hotplug do - is this just a set of typos in the rules files? regards Mark emerge-info Portage 2.1.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r4, 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686) = System uname: 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1266MHz Gentoo Base System version 1.12.6 Last Sync: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:00:01 + app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.30 dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.60 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X alsa apache2 apm arts berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dlloader dri dvd eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk2 iconv imlib input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde kernel_linux libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pam pcre perl png pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev userland_GNU video_cards_apm video_cards_ark video_cards_ati video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus video_cards_cyrix video_cards_dummy video_cards_fbdev video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 video_cards_i810 video_cards_imstt video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic video_cards_nsc video_cards_nv video_cards_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb video_cards_tdfx video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga video_cards_via video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo vorbis xml xorg xv zlib Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 11:28, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:13:01 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: An alternative is 'nohup' - if you know that you are gonna run a long task and wish to be able to shutdown your terminal window. e.g: $ nohup emerge kdelibs $ exit Shouldn't that be nohup emerge kdelibs ? No, because nohup launches emerge in the background and immediately returns I've not use nohup for a few years, not since I discovered screen, but ISTR you need to run in in the background. nohup was designed to do things like run a process overnight and still allow the user to logout from the shell that launched it, without killing the nohup-ed process. stdout goes to a file in case you want to review it later. But nohup doesn't give you a way to reconnect the backgrounded process or even to see it's output. You kinda just leave it to run till it doesn't show up in ps anymore alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
On 12/6/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael Gorden wrote: I think you should run etc-update once... I'm seeing this as well (udev-103 and have run etc-update). I notice that 50-udev.rules has references to /sbin/udev_run_devd|hotplug Nope, the helper programs moved to /lib/udev/ in udev-103. etc-update should take care of the files that udev currently supplies (like 50-udev.rules). You might have some orphaned files though in /etc/udev/rules.d. Use equery belongs to identify these. -Richard These files do not exist - however /lib/udev/udev_run_devd|hotplug do - is this just a set of typos in the rules files? regards Mark emerge-info Portage 2.1.1-r2 (default-linux/x86/2006.0, gcc-4.1.1, glibc-2.4-r4, 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686) = System uname: 2.6.18-gentoo-r3 i686 Intel(R) Pentium(R) III CPU family 1266MHz Gentoo Base System version 1.12.6 Last Sync: Tue, 05 Dec 2006 11:00:01 + app-admin/eselect-compiler: [Not Present] dev-java/java-config: 1.3.7, 2.0.30 dev-lang/python: 2.4.3-r4 dev-python/pycrypto: 2.0.1-r5 dev-util/ccache: [Not Present] dev-util/confcache: [Not Present] sys-apps/sandbox:1.2.17 sys-devel/autoconf: 2.13, 2.60 sys-devel/automake: 1.4_p6, 1.5, 1.6.3, 1.7.9-r1, 1.8.5-r3, 1.9.6-r2 sys-devel/binutils: 2.16.1-r3 sys-devel/gcc-config: 1.3.13-r4 sys-devel/libtool: 1.5.22 virtual/os-headers: 2.6.17-r2 ACCEPT_KEYWORDS=x86 AUTOCLEAN=yes CBUILD=i686-pc-linux-gnu CFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu CONFIG_PROTECT=/etc /usr/share/X11/xkb CONFIG_PROTECT_MASK=/etc/env.d /etc/env.d/java/ /etc/gconf /etc/java-config/vms/ /etc/revdep-rebuild /etc/terminfo /etc/texmf/web2c CXXFLAGS=-O2 -march=i686 -pipe DISTDIR=/usr/portage/distfiles FEATURES=autoconfig distlocks metadata-transfer sandbox sfperms strict GENTOO_MIRRORS=http://public.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ ftp://ftp.planetmirror.com/pub/gentoo/ http://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo ftp://mirror.pacific.net.au/linux/Gentoo PKGDIR=/usr/portage/packages PORTAGE_RSYNC_OPTS=--recursive --links --safe-links --perms --times --compress --force --whole-file --delete --delete-after --stats --timeout=180 --exclude='/distfiles' --exclude='/local' --exclude='/packages' PORTAGE_TMPDIR=/var/tmp PORTDIR=/usr/portage SYNC=rsync://rsync.gentoo.org/gentoo-portage USE=x86 X alsa apache2 apm arts berkdb bitmap-fonts cdr cli cracklib crypt cups dlloader dri dvd eds elibc_glibc emboss encode esd foomaticdb fortran gdbm gif gpm gstreamer gtk2 iconv imlib input_devices_evdev input_devices_keyboard input_devices_mouse ipv6 isdnlog jpeg kde kernel_linux libg++ libwww mad mikmod motif mp3 mpeg ncurses nls nptl nptlonly ogg opengl oss pam pcre perl png pppd python qt qt3 qt4 quicktime readline reflection sdl session spell spl ssl tcpd truetype truetype-fonts type1-fonts udev userland_GNU video_cards_apm video_cards_ark video_cards_ati video_cards_chips video_cards_cirrus video_cards_cyrix video_cards_dummy video_cards_fbdev video_cards_glint video_cards_i128 video_cards_i740 video_cards_i810 video_cards_imstt video_cards_mga video_cards_neomagic video_cards_nsc video_cards_nv video_cards_rendition video_cards_s3 video_cards_s3virge video_cards_savage video_cards_siliconmotion video_cards_sis video_cards_sisusb video_cards_tdfx video_cards_tga video_cards_trident video_cards_tseng video_cards_v4l video_cards_vesa video_cards_vga video_cards_via video_cards_vmware video_cards_voodoo vorbis xml xorg xv zlib Unset: CTARGET, EMERGE_DEFAULT_OPTS, INSTALL_MASK, LANG, LC_ALL, LDFLAGS, LINGUAS, MAKEOPTS, PORTAGE_RSYNC_EXTRA_OPTS, PORTDIR_OVERLAY -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 14:13:01 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: An alternative is 'nohup' - if you know that you are gonna run a long task and wish to be able to shutdown your terminal window. e.g: $ nohup emerge kdelibs $ exit Shouldn't that be nohup emerge kdelibs ? I've not use nohup for a few years, not since I discovered screen, but ISTR you need to run in in the background. Yeah - good point, the is in theory optional, but it makes sense to use it, since all output is redirected to nohup.out and your terminal session is tied up! However, if the is forgotten, you can just do the usual to background the task: ^Z $ bg cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
Please, give a ref to such (proved to work) app. === On Wednesday 06 December 2006 12:39, Thomas Kear wrote: === ... and there is even a native (i386) linux app to flash them with. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: How to list sizes of installed packages?
On 2006-12-06, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Because some equery commands search for packages (ideally suited for a regex), and others by design operate on a single package (where using regexes don't make any sense). But that differentiation seems purely artificial. What is there about the print size operation that makes it something you can't or shouldn't do on multiple packages? Why shouldn't the operation of pkgspec and command be orthogonal? pkgspec selects zero or more packages and the command operates on the selected package. It should, but alas it doesn't. It was coded that way. Why the limitation that some commands only operate on one package? Because the dev decided to do it that way. It all makes perfect sense when you realize this, but no-one expects you to realize it immediately :-) Well, it seems pretty non-intuitive and non-orthogonal to me. I guess that's a result of many years of shell usage where commands like rm and ls work equally well on a single file or multiple files. There's only one way you are going to get equery to behave like you want - become the maintainer and code it like you want. I know. :) However, for most of what I want to do, the q utils seem much closer to the mark. -- Grant Edwards grante Yow! BARBARA STANWYCK at makes me nervous!! visi.com -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Mark Kirkwood [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I notice that 50-udev.rules has references to /sbin/udev_run_devd|hotplug Nope, the helper programs moved to /lib/udev/ in udev-103. etc-update should take care of the files that udev currently supplies (like 50-udev.rules). You might have some orphaned files though in /etc/udev/rules.d. Use equery belongs to identify these. Well, equery reckons udev.rules is unowned (so I've moved that away). It thinks 50-udev.rules is owned by udev-103, but 50-udev.rules has the incorrect paths. If I edit it and change /sbin/xxx to /lib/udev/xxx then the errors vanish and all is good (there is a warning about using hard paths in these files, so I've been bad I guess, should have put just xxx). Anyway, what do you suggest - re-emerging udev again? (The archive in the portage dist directory looks ok and the gentoo specific udev.rules file looks correct - i.e has xxx not /sbin/xxx in it... so I've no idea why the sbin is in the installed ones). Cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:05:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I've not use nohup for a few years, not since I discovered screen, but ISTR you need to run in in the background. nohup was designed to do things like run a process overnight and still allow the user to logout from the shell that launched it, without killing the nohup-ed process. stdout goes to a file in case you want to review it later. I know that, but the last time I used it, i needed to background the nohup process before I could logout of the shell. -- Neil Bothwick Frog philosophy: Time's fun when you're having flies. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:53:59 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: It thinks 50-udev.rules is owned by udev-103, but 50-udev.rules has the incorrect paths. If I edit it and change /sbin/xxx to /lib/udev/xxx then the errors vanish and all is good (there is a warning about using hard paths in these files, so I've been bad I guess, should have put just xxx). You shouldn't be editing this file at all, because your changes will be overwritten by an update. Put your own settings in 10-local.rules to keep them safe. -- Neil Bothwick Love and Trust: Oral sex between cannibals. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:37, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 22:30, Dale wrote: It takes a bit to get used to it and figure out the commands but it is neat just to do what I have listed here. I still can not figure out how to make it scroll back though. Need to specify 'stuff' in /etc/screenrc under the section xterm tweaks. There's another thread somewhere in this ML that explains it somewhat. Oh, I thought it was enabled by default. That explains why it don't work then. Maybe now I can google it. I found it! Search gmane, or google, for screen buffer in gnome terminal. I use KDE does that matter? Or will it work the same on any type of terminal, Konsole, console or xterm? Dale :-) :-)
[gentoo-user] Cpu frequency scaling not working on Centrino
Hi, Some time back my cpu frequency scaling stopped working. I was having issues with e17 as well so left it for a bit with the result that I can't pinpoint the kind of changes that made it stop working. So here goes Dell Latitude D810 with 2GHz Centrino. Kernels 2.6.18-suspend2 and 2.6.19. All relevant kernel code compiled as a module. This snippet from /etc/modules.autoload/kernel2.6 used to work: speedstep_centrino cpufreq_stats freq_table cpufreq_conservative cpufreq_ondemand #cpufreq_performance cpufreq_powersave cpufreq_userspace #p4-clockmod #speedstep_ich #speedstep_lib On boot, I get an error when loading speedstep-centrino that a device or resource is busy. But I can then log in, rmmod all these modules and manually modprobe them in the above order, and it works fine. Perhaps I'm missing a module, or loading them in the wrong order but I don't find any docs setting me straight on this, and I've checked again and am sure I followed http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/power-management-guide.xml correctly? Help anyone? alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
061206 Neil Bothwick wrote: What have KDE desktops got to do with virtual terminals? On the IRIX machine accessed via Kermit from my XT I used Screen screens to run Mutt Lynx simultaneously in the same way I now run them on different KDE desktops. As I said, the real value of Screen is when you login/logout want to leave a job running in the meantime: that I didn't do. -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb : [EMAIL PROTECTED] ELECTRIC /] [] [] [] [] []| Centre for Urban Community Studies TRANSIT`-O--O---' University of Toronto -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
Andrew Gaydenko wrote: Please, give a ref to such (proved to work) app. === On Wednesday 06 December 2006 12:39, Thomas Kear wrote: === ... and there is even a native (i386) linux app to flash them with. Thanks for all the info. I really have no knowledge on these things except that they record like a CR-RW and they store a LOT more data. Other than that, the dvd-rw, dvd+rw dvd-ram and all the other stuff is very muddy here. I just don't want to buy one and it not support something popular. I don't want to get something the equivilent of a beta type VCR. If there is a VHS model out there that is what I need. I am looking at these right now. Can someone help me pick from these four? I don't see much difference myself. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152077 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106010 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136102 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152075 Also, correct me if I am wrong here, these will still burn CD-R and CD-RWs right? I may use my current CD-RW in another machine or something is why I ask. Thanks for the advice. I really need it. Dale :-) :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 13:52, Dale wrote: I use KDE does that matter? Or will it work the same on any type of terminal, Konsole, console or xterm? KDE doesn't matter. It works on any term, and definitely on the three you mention. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On 06 December 2006 12:05, Alan McKinnon wrote: But nohup doesn't give you a way to reconnect the backgrounded process or even to see it's output. You kinda just leave it to run till it doesn't show up in ps anymore Not exactly. For seeing its output, there always is tail -f nohup.out. You can get it into the foreground again by fg job-number (job-number != PID), but its output still goes to nohup.out. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On 06 December 2006 13:07, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 12:05:16 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: I've not use nohup for a few years, not since I discovered screen, but ISTR you need to run in in the background. nohup was designed to do things like run a process overnight and still allow the user to logout from the shell that launched it, without killing the nohup-ed process. stdout goes to a file in case you want to review it later. I know that, but the last time I used it, i needed to background the nohup process before I could logout of the shell. It still is so. Uwe -- Mark Twain: I rather decline two drinks than a German adjective. http://www.SysEx.com.na -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Cpu frequency scaling not working on Centrino
Alan McKinnon wrote: On boot, I get an error when loading speedstep-centrino that a device or resource is busy. But I can then log in, rmmod all these modules and manually modprobe them in the above order, and it works fine. I had the same effect when trying to update from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17. Do you have acpi compiled in (instead of as a module) or do you load the acpi module before speedstep_centrino? It seems that acpi tries to load acpi_cpufreq, which used to work here but since 2.6.17 doesn't anymore and leaves the frequency scaling in a busy state. It should be fixed in 2.6.19, although I haven't tried. http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6848 If the above seems to correspond to your problem, try compiling all of acpi as modules and to load speedstep_centrino first. Anyway, quite a long shot in the dark. -- Remy Remove underscore and suffix in reply address for a timely response. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 23:37, Dale wrote: Mick wrote: On Tuesday 05 December 2006 22:30, Dale wrote: It takes a bit to get used to it and figure out the commands but it is neat just to do what I have listed here. I still can not figure out how to make it scroll back though. Need to specify 'stuff' in /etc/screenrc under the section xterm tweaks. There's another thread somewhere in this ML that explains it somewhat. Oh, I thought it was enabled by default. That explains why it don't work then. Maybe now I can google it. I found it! Search gmane, or google, for screen buffer in gnome terminal. I got it to work I think. I added this to /etc/screenrc : termcapinfo xterm|xterms|xs|rxvt ti@:te@ You have to hold down the shift key and hit page up or page down though. This is cool. That worked in Konsole. I have not tried it in a console yet. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Yes,it's OK!I ever compiled openoffice with 12 hours.It was painful!So
now i just
emerge openoffice-bin,which is very good in my machine.
2006/12/6, Leandro Melo de Sales [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
Hi,
# date
Tue Dec 5 10:12:01 BRT 2006
# emerge openoffice
{ in other terminal }
# date
Tue Dec 5 15:24:01 BRT 2006
and portage continues to compile openoffice, it didn't finished yet.
Is it so slow or there are something wrong? My machine is a P4 (with
HyperThreading enabled), 512Mb.
Thanks,
Leandro.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Dale wrote: Mick wrote: I found it! Search gmane, or google, for screen buffer in gnome terminal. I got it to work I think. I added this to /etc/screenrc : termcapinfo xterm|xterms|xs|rxvt ti@:te@ You have to hold down the shift key and hit page up or page down though. This is cool. That worked in Konsole. I have not tried it in a console yet. Dale :-) :-) Well, it doesn't work if you detach and reattach. I couldn't get it to work in a console either. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Cpu frequency scaling not working on Centrino
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 14:56, Remy Blank wrote: Alan McKinnon wrote: On boot, I get an error when loading speedstep-centrino that a device or resource is busy. But I can then log in, rmmod all these modules and manually modprobe them in the above order, and it works fine. I had the same effect when trying to update from 2.6.15 to 2.6.17. Do you have acpi compiled in (instead of as a module) or do you load the acpi module before speedstep_centrino? It seems that acpi tries to load acpi_cpufreq, which used to work here but since 2.6.17 doesn't anymore and leaves the frequency scaling in a busy state. It should be fixed in 2.6.19, although I haven't tried. http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=6848 If the above seems to correspond to your problem, try compiling all of acpi as modules and to load speedstep_centrino first. Anyway, quite a long shot in the dark. Not really :-) For whatever reason, loading speedstep-centrino first makes it all work. Now that I have some direction, I can tinker away by myself and figure out all the other aspects to this. Thanks for the tip alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rdesktop always fails with ERROR: send: Connection reset by peer
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:20:31AM +, Mick wrote: On Monday 13 November 2006 07:50, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Hi, Mick schrieb: On Thursday 09 November 2006 07:09, Wolfgang Liebich wrote: Hi, Sorry for writing the first email in german - it was meant for gentoo-user-de :-/ Now the same question in english... Wolfgang Liebich schrieb: I've got a new PC at work and installed it with gentoo linux. My old work PC is also a gentoo system. I tried to setup the machines pretty similar. BUT: On my new PC rdesktop can't connect to any of our WindowsXP machines. I always get the error message listed above (a windows for rdesktop appears disappears after the error msg is shown). I assume that you have checked all the obvious access rights and network configuration issues (like the firewall configuration on the WinXP machines, the particular -l username access rights for login on interactively at the WinXP console, etc.)? Yes: - There is no firewall between the winxp machines (plural :-/) and the linux boxen (old or new) Including any WinXP (software) firewall? I am thinking here that it may have to do with the subdomain address that the new Gentoo build is trying to access them from. - I do net even GET to the login mask, so user permissions don't play a role (and if I connect from the OLD gentoo box, I can login). This type of message often occurs when you are trying to access machines over slow, high latency dial-up connections. Are you using IP addresses to connect to the WinXP boxen, or names - name resolution could add to the delay and time-out reset messages. Have you searched the rdesktop server event logs? tcpdump? Well, the latest breaking news from the rdesktop front: - I tried to reemerge rdesktop (release 1.4.1) with the debug USE flag set in package.use. First test: It works !!! (after spewing incredible amounts of debugging messages at me). OK. - I removed the line specifying debug USE flag and reemerged again (same state as before). What do you think happened now? well it worked Well... on one hand, I'm glad it's working now. BUT .. I feel somewhat spooked :-))) Has ANYONE some kind of explanation for that??? Dazed confused, Wolfgang -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay) that doesn't depend on PHP? what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on some kind of server side scripting. Nangus
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:37:58 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Yes,it's OK!I ever compiled openoffice with 12 hours.It was painful! It's never painful if it succeeds, my emerge failed after 16+ hours; trying again with different CFLAGS now :( -- Neil Bothwick Friends may come and go, but enemies accumulate. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 09:29:05 -0500, Nangus Garba wrote: Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay) that doesn't depend on PHP? what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on some kind of server side scripting. If you'd rather use Perl, there's Neomail, but it's not in portage or any layman overlay bit you can get it from http://sourceforge.net/projects/neomail/ -- Neil Bothwick When your pet bird sees you reading the newspaper, does he wonder why you're just sitting there, staring at carpeting? signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 15:47, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 21:37:58 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: Yes,it's OK!I ever compiled openoffice with 12 hours.It was painful! It's never painful if it succeeds, my emerge failed after 16+ hours; trying again with different CFLAGS now :( You are aware of the the CFLAGS filtering that is performed by the openoffice ebuilds, right? -- Bo Andresen pgp1Nmbd7pmfq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] UTF-8 troubles
Hi Bo, on Saturday, 2006-12-02 at 06:48:51, you wrote: I switched a few systems to all-UTF-8 a while ago, and while it's generally a big improvement, a few apps are playing up. There's a nice guide [1] in case you haven't noticed. Yup, I largely folloed it in my transition. Pretty common apps that is, most notably tin and centericq, so I think it's probably my problem. [SNIP] I don't know anything about tin bug for centericq there's bug #138740 [2]. I'm not sure the unicode support in centericq is flawless though. Otherwise I would suggest looking for alternatives with better unicode support. OK, in centericq's case it seems to be the program's fault, I was just wondering because the errors are so similar that it might be an ncurses problem. Well, I'll just try slrn... Thanks! Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: FAC37665 Fingerprint: 8C16 3F0A A6FC DF0D 19B0 8DEF 48D9 1700 FAC3 7665 pgpvAytXoxBlF.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:58:05 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: It's never painful if it succeeds, my emerge failed after 16+ hours; trying again with different CFLAGS now :( You are aware of the the CFLAGS filtering that is performed by the openoffice ebuilds, right? Yes, but there is currently no filtering of PPC flags. I run sane CFLAGS, but apparently openoffice fails with -march=G4, I need to try again with -march=7400. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147542 The problem is it fails during the install phase, so I have to wait the full 16+ hours to see if it worked :( -- Neil Bothwick ASCII stupid question... get a stupid ANSI! signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? I have had problems with Firefox 2 crashing every time I resume, it spouts some nonsense about gnome-vfs and dies. I have also on occasion not been able to enter my password into xscreensaver after a reboot, for that Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login then kill xscreensaver works without harming anything else. HTH. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If you don't mind php, I recommend horde . Just be sure that you actually need the features it provides, because it has the potential be a hassle to setup. Atmail is a good perl based webmail, along with Neomail, which was previously mentioned. -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Very OT - gnome-panel notification area applet
I have a notification applet on my panel in gnome. I upgraded a package yesterday and used the new version for the first time time. The new version places a very large gaudy icon in my notification area applet. The icon is non-interactive (I tried), and it just takes up space. I want that applet there for applications like gaim that have small-nonvisually-obtrusive icons. I would like to go into the code of the gtk app and remove the part that places the icon in the notification area, but unfortunately I don't know what to look for and have had little to no success so far on google. Any hints would be appreciated... -Michael Sullivan- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
Grant wrote: Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay) that doesn't depend on PHP? what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on some kind of server side scripting. Nangus I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? - Grant I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface. kashani -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:32:17 -0800, kashani wrote: I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface. There's an ebuild on b.g.o - http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=109170 -- Neil Bothwick We are THOR of Borg... your RFC compliant mailbox has been assimilated signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Very OT - gnome-panel notification area applet
Michael Sullivan wrote: I have a notification applet on my panel in gnome. I upgraded a package yesterday and used the new version for the first time time. The new version places a very large gaudy icon in my notification area applet. The icon is non-interactive (I tried), and it just takes up space. I want that applet there for applications like gaim that have small-nonvisually-obtrusive icons. I would like to go into the code of the gtk app and remove the part that places the icon in the notification area, but unfortunately I don't know what to look for and have had little to no success so far on google. Any hints would be appreciated... -Michael Sullivan- Perhaps this will install an app to do what you want? emerge x11-misc/alacarte -- Phil Sexton Naomi's Fancy: http://www.naomisfancy.net/ Our 2nd CD: http://www.cdbaby.com/naomisfancy/ -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
Hi Two days ago, I changed my USE flags (added bzip2) and tried to emerge world with the update, deep and newuse options. Because the new UDEV Package conflicted with coldplug I unmerged coldplug first (which is obsolete I think?). Today I rebooted for the first time since then. As the system came up a few error messages showed up, indicating that my ethernet interface was not found (probably module not loaded). Is there a connection to coldplug? Anyway after that I thought it would be a good idea to update to the latest Kernel before fixing that Problem (2.6.18-gentoo-r3). I used genkernel to create a generic kernel, modules and initrd with lvm2 support (as my root device is on a lvm2 volume). Since then the system stopped booting completely. The first problem was that the busybox mdev link was missing (therefor I created it manually). Now linuxrc (actually vgchange) claims, that there is no more space left on the device to create the device nodes for my lvm volumes. But dumpe2fs on the initrd reports, that I still have 45 free blocks and 44 free inodes. Shouldn't this be enough for 3 device nodes? Any ideas what could be wrong? TIA, Mirco -- Ein Herz für Kinder - Ihre Spende hilft! Aktion: www.deutschlandsegelt.de Unser Dankeschön: Ihr Name auf dem Segel der 1. deutschen America's Cup-Yacht! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
On 12/6/06, Grant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? We run RoundCube on Gentoo at work and it works very well, the interface is AJAXified which has its benefits. Overall I would say that if you are going to run PHP for your web-mail RoundCube is the best way to go. I don't know if it is in Portage or how easy it is to emerge, we manage our web applications with a different in-house system. -Mike -- Michael E. Crute http://mike.crute.org God put me on this earth to accomplish a certain number of things. Right now I am so far behind that I will never die. --Bill Watterson -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay) that doesn't depend on PHP? what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on some kind of server side scripting. Nangus I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? - Grant I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface. kashani I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail. Does anyone know if squirrelmail has a drop-down for changing the From: header? I see that roundcube does. Any other comparative information between the two would be much appreciated. - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Very OT - gnome-panel notification area applet
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:54 -0500, Phil Sexton wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I have a notification applet on my panel in gnome. I upgraded a package yesterday and used the new version for the first time time. The new version places a very large gaudy icon in my notification area applet. The icon is non-interactive (I tried), and it just takes up space. I want that applet there for applications like gaim that have small-nonvisually-obtrusive icons. I would like to go into the code of the gtk app and remove the part that places the icon in the notification area, but unfortunately I don't know what to look for and have had little to no success so far on google. Any hints would be appreciated... -Michael Sullivan- Perhaps this will install an app to do what you want? emerge x11-misc/alacarte I don't mind it being on the menu; I just don't want it taking up space in the system tray... -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Good! I did it! :) Thanks! 2006/12/5, Hemmann, Volker Armin [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hi, if you don't use openoffice a lot, it is not worth to compile it. Just use the binary package. It will take some seconds more to start, but once it runs, there is hardly any difference. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Leandro Melo de Sales. Computer Science MSc Candidate Pervasive Computing Lab - embedded.ufcg.edu.br Federal University of Campina Grande - UFCG / Brazil 083 33101404 (extension 208) O guerreiro é forte em lealdade, intensidade, determinação, iniciativa, persistência, coragem e força de vontade. O guerreiro é leve em sua calma, autoconfiança e compaixão. O guerreiro é freqüentemente chamado para tomar a frente quando outros covardemente dão um passo atrás. Guerreiros existem nos campos de batalha e na vida cotidiana. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Good explanation Alan, thanks! :) 2006/12/6, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Wednesday 06 December 2006 00:03, Leandro Melo de Sales wrote: Can you please tell me the propose of screen? Thank you, Leandro screen does many functions, but the most useful is probably being able to disconnect and reconnect sessions. Here's a very simple explanation: Imagine you have a session running in an xterm or on a vc. It's running bash, and the output displays on the terminal. Normally, there is no way you can log out, leave programs running in the background and come back later to find everything just how you left it. There is nohup, but what that puts the job in the background and it stays there - you can't get it back onto a terminal and have to let it run, then look inside nohup.out to see the result. We use screen extensively here, I often start a bash session on the work server, then log out and go home. From home I log back into the server, reconnect screen and my full session is there just as I left it. Behind the scenes, programs normally run attached to bash, which is attached to a terminal and that's the way it stays. With screen, programs are launched from bash, which is attached to a screen process. The magic is that you can attached that screen process to whatever terminal you like, and disconnect and reconnect them at will. alan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Dale wrote: Let's say in this situation the OP is in now. He can open a screen session, screen -S OOo. Then start the emerge of open office like normal. If he wants to or needs to he can do a ctrl a then hit d and detach the session. The emerge process knows no difference and keeps the emerge going. If he started the screen session in Konsole or something like that, he can log out of the GUI and then reattach it in a console. All he has to do is a screen -r OOo to bring it back. If it is still compiling away and all looks well, do a ctrl a then hit d to detach again and let it carry on. Let's not forget the situation where you are somewhere else and you'd like to ssh in and see what's going on :) R -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
On 12/6/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at these right now. Can someone help me pick from these four? I don't see much difference myself. Well the two NEC models are identical hardware, just different colors. If I were making a choice between those 4...er 3...I would probably go with the LG for no reason other than the slightly better access times. Either one supports every format that you could care about currently. Also, correct me if I am wrong here, these will still burn CD-R and CD-RWs right? Yes. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. Any ideas? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Floppy Disk Light
Mick wrote: If sorting out the driver doesn't work you can try passing the option --no-floppy at boot time (grub will not probe the fd0). Thanks! I'll try that out tonight! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Grub set default for next reboot?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Neil Bothwick wrote: grub-set-default only sets it for one boot, so your default, which would sensibly be set to a known working kernel, takes over next time. I still don't see how grub-set-default has any provisions for booting a kernel just once and then automatically causing some other kernel to be booted on subsequent boots. The documentation for grub-set-default makes no mention of this functionality and provides workarounds that wouldn't be necessary if it existed. Is it possible that I'm missing some sort of --once-only option that you can pass to grub-set-default? Based on my reading and on my testing, the only way to get grub to boot a kernel just once as the original poster described is to use each of default saved, grub-set-default, and multiple occurences of savedefault N-- grub-set-default alone can't do the job. If there's a better way to get lilo -R-like behavior in grub, then I'd like to learn it. Could you please provide an example or a link to documentation? There's also a fall back option to specify a kernel to boot in the event of a failure of the default. Maybe your are thinking of savedefault fallback which sets this. I saw that as well, but I don't think I was thinking of that. Anyway, the answer still remains, that with grub-set-default and a suitable configuration, GRUB will do the same as lilo -R. That's the reason I am comfortable using it on a headless server as well as desktops. Agreed completely. Joe -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Howto setup AON ADSL inet connection via SpeedTouch 546v6 ?
Hi everybody ! I'd like to make internet connection via Telekom Austria / AON. I have Thomson/Alcatel SpeedTouch 546i v6 ADSL router, FW is 5.3.9.1. Windoze inet connectivity works (using green CD from AON ). Can u give me an advice, what should I do, to make it work under Gentoo ? TIA noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am looking at these right now. Can someone help me pick from these four? I don't see much difference myself. Well the two NEC models are identical hardware, just different colors. If I were making a choice between those 4...er 3...I would probably go with the LG for no reason other than the slightly better access times. Either one supports every format that you could care about currently. Also, correct me if I am wrong here, these will still burn CD-R and CD-RWs right? Yes. -Richard Thanks for all the help. It looks like this one is a good one. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136102 If anyone sees a problem, please speak up. It may be next month before I can buy one though. Depends on if I have to go to the Doctor with this sore throat and/or if I have to pay some fees for my divorce. I hate doing that. Long story. www.myspace.com/dalek1967 if you are interested. Thanks to all that replied. Any ideas still welcomed. I haven't bought it yet. Dale :-) :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Booting Gentoo 2006.1 on an iMac
2006/9/10, Charles Trois [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Hello, I am having trouble while installing 2006.1 on my iMac. I have made other installations before, but never had this problem. I am using the Universal ppc disk, and I have followed strictly all the steps in the 2006.1 handbook. I have not made any modules, everything is in the kernel. What happens is that, on the final reboot, I see 10 or 15 lines of text (is that the Open Firmware part?) that disappear immediately. Then there is nothing, and I have to cut the power to go on. I have also made a more complete version of yaboot.conf with macos, macosx, etc. Then the bootloader shows these options (ignores enablecdboot and enableofboot, though). Typing x for macosx starts it normally, but l for linux fails as described above. This is done without an Internet connexion. I haven't got one yet because my new modem is a Speedtouch 510v5 Ethernet type, which works very well with osx, but is notoriously troublesome with Linux (but this is another affair). I should be grateful for any hints. Charles Maybe too late, but this can be helpfull: http://www.unixboard.de/vb3/showthread.php?t=11619 HTH noro -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
Steve Brenneis sbrenneis at surry.net writes: I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. /etc/rc.conf may or maynot be used to start X/kdm at boot time. /etc/init.d/xdm script to see what's going on. look at your config file /etc/conf.d/xdm to see what you have set. You might also need to run 'revdep-rebuild -p' to clean rebuild some files. hth, James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 15:19, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 15:58:05 +0100, Bo Ørsted Andresen wrote: It's never painful if it succeeds, my emerge failed after 16+ hours; trying again with different CFLAGS now :( You are aware of the the CFLAGS filtering that is performed by the openoffice ebuilds, right? Yes, but there is currently no filtering of PPC flags. I run sane CFLAGS, but apparently openoffice fails with -march=G4, I need to try again with -march=7400. http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=147542 The problem is it fails during the install phase, so I have to wait the full 16+ hours to see if it worked :( Guys, with all due respect, you don't really know what pain means! Try emerging OOo on a 600MHz, 125MB RAM box and have it tripping over itslelf, 29 hours (!!! yes, twenty nine hours!) into the emerge, hold for it, twice over in a row! Bl**dy hell! That's the sort of pain that brings you close to the edge of despair and thoughts of sledge hammers being forcefully driven through monitors . . . :@ Over the years I recon it may have even happened three times in a row - we're talking here about the best part of a week and that does not include emerging monolithic KDE and Xorg! Still, it must have been at least three milliseconds faster on launch . . . :-)) -- Regards, Mick pgpal334b7zXR.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Installation of openoffice in 4 hours or more?! :s
Leandro Melo de Sales ha scritto: Thanks list for all the explanation! :) Me too. Seems wonderful indeed...I'd never had even *thought* about such a program! m. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] fine grained net dependancies
Hey,
At some point I was sure baselayout supported full runscript depend(){}
syntax, in the form depend_${iface}(){}.
However it's not working quite how I would like it to.
I *need* heartbeat to start *after* br0. (My network config is quite complex,
br0 is a bridge of bond0 and bond4, bonds 0 and 4 being composed of eths 9,
2, 6, and 1 respectively.)
I have tried adding
depend_br0(){
before heartbeat
}
I've used both the old and new depend syntax to make the bonds need/NEED the
eth interfaces, and the bridge need/NEED the bonds.
But heartbeat continues to start after the first net service starts, so it
fails to start as the interface it needs doesn't exist yet.
I'd really rather not modify the heartbeat init script if at all possible.
Thanks
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Mike Williams
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
Hi For the archives: Problems solved. The missing ethernet interface resulted from two missing links in /sbin (udev_run_devd, udev_run_hotplugd). I've created them now manually. I think they should get installed when emerging udev. A this point I have no idea why they were missing on my system (if someone has an idea please reply). Anyway it works fine again. The boot problem originated from using an old genkernel.conf (and ignoring emerge!). Not yet tested but pretty obvious (I'm compiling the new kernel and initrd at the moment). Regards, Manuel Original-Nachricht Datum: Wed, 06 Dec 2006 18:59:26 +0100 Von: Mirco Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] An: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Betreff: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem Hi Two days ago, I changed my USE flags (added bzip2) and tried to emerge world with the update, deep and newuse options. Because the new UDEV Package conflicted with coldplug I unmerged coldplug first (which is obsolete I think?). Today I rebooted for the first time since then. As the system came up a few error messages showed up, indicating that my ethernet interface was not found (probably module not loaded). Is there a connection to coldplug? Anyway after that I thought it would be a good idea to update to the latest Kernel before fixing that Problem (2.6.18-gentoo-r3). I used genkernel to create a generic kernel, modules and initrd with lvm2 support (as my root device is on a lvm2 volume). Since then the system stopped booting completely. The first problem was that the busybox mdev link was missing (therefor I created it manually). Now linuxrc (actually vgchange) claims, that there is no more space left on the device to create the device nodes for my lvm volumes. But dumpe2fs on the initrd reports, that I still have 45 free blocks and 44 free inodes. Shouldn't this be enough for 3 device nodes? Any ideas what could be wrong? TIA, Mirco -- Ein Herz für Kinder - Ihre Spende hilft! Aktion: www.deutschlandsegelt.de Unser Dankeschön: Ihr Name auf dem Segel der 1. deutschen America's Cup-Yacht! -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- Der GMX SmartSurfer hilft bis zu 70% Ihrer Onlinekosten zu sparen! Ideal für Modem und ISDN: http://www.gmx.net/de/go/smartsurfer -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 10:23:12 -0800, Grant wrote: I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail. Any other comparative information between the two would be much appreciated. Why not install them both and see which suits you best? That's what I did, I installed Roundcube in a sub-directory so I could compare it with SquirrelMail? -- Neil Bothwick I've found a solution to Fermat's Last Theorem but I see I've run out of room o signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fine grained net dependancies
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:51, Neil Bothwick wrote:
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006 20:18:11 +, Mike Williams wrote:
I *need* heartbeat to start *after* br0.
You could do his from the postup function in /etc/conf.d/net
postup() {
[ ${IFACE} == br0 ] /etc/init.d/heartbeat start
}
And take heartbeat out of the default runlevel, clever.
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Re: [gentoo-user] udev_run_{hotplugd,devd} failed
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 23:53:59 +1300, Mark Kirkwood wrote: It thinks 50-udev.rules is owned by udev-103, but 50-udev.rules has the incorrect paths. If I edit it and change /sbin/xxx to /lib/udev/xxx then the errors vanish and all is good (there is a warning about using hard paths in these files, so I've been bad I guess, should have put just xxx). You shouldn't be editing this file at all, because your changes will be overwritten by an update. Put your own settings in 10-local.rules to keep them safe. Thanks, while this is good advice - in this case I'm not wanting my own rules at all, just trying to locate the source of the error messages, and from there figure out what went wrong... I think I have it: The file /etc/udev/rules.d/udev.rules is the same as the one in the udev-103 archive - whereas the 50-udev.rules is different (i.e guess older). So somehow in the udev-103 update the old file got left there... So I've renamed udev.rules to 50-udev.rules and everything looks good (no warnings, everything coming up ok). So somewhere along the way, either I forgot to run etc-update when needed or there was a bug in the udev update process at some point... cheers Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
James wrote: Steve Brenneis sbrenneis at surry.net writes: I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. /etc/rc.conf may or maynot be used to start X/kdm at boot time. /etc/init.d/xdm script to see what's going on. look at your config file /etc/conf.d/xdm to see what you have set. You might also need to run 'revdep-rebuild -p' to clean rebuild some files. hth, James Thanks, All the configuration seems to be set up correctly. I have done several revdep-rebuilds as well as a couple of emerge -e world. Here are the relevant configuration files, though: gamer ~ # cat /etc/rc.conf # /etc/rc.conf: Global startup script configuration settings # UNICODE specifies whether you want to have UNICODE support in the console. # If you set to yes, please make sure to set a UNICODE aware CONSOLEFONT and # KEYMAP in the /etc/conf.d/consolefont and /etc/conf.d/keymaps config files. UNICODE=yes # Set EDITOR to your preferred editor. # You may use something other than what is listed here. #EDITOR=/bin/nano EDITOR=/usr/bin/vim #EDITOR=/usr/bin/emacs # XSESSION is a new variable to control what window manager to start # default with X if run with xdm, startx or xinit. The default behavior # is to look in /etc/X11/Sessions/ and run the script in matching the # value that XSESSION is set to. The support scripts are smart enough to # look in all bin directories if it cant find a match in /etc/X11/Sessions/, # so setting it to enlightenment can also work. This is basically used # as a way for the system admin to configure a default system wide WM, # allthough it will work if the user export XSESSION in his .bash_profile, etc. # # NOTE: 1) this behaviour is overridden when a ~/.xinitrc exists, and startx # is called. #2) even if ~/.xsession exists, if XSESSION can be resolved, it will # be executed rather than ~/.xsession, else KDM breaks ... # # Defaults depending on what you install currently include: # # Gnome - will start gnome-session # kde-version - will start startkde (look in /etc/X11/Sessions/) # Xsession - will start a terminal and a few other nice apps #XSESSION=Gnome gamer ~ # cat /etc/conf.d/xdm # Tell X to always start on VT7. Otherwise it autodetects the first available # VT, which means it has to wait until all gettys are started so it doesn't suck # up a VT that should have had a login prompt (very slow). # If XSTATICVT is on, the login manager will start as soon as possible during # the boot process. If you want X to dynamically start on the first unoccupied # VT after all gettys have started and you are using xdm, also remove the vt7 # from /etc/X11/xdm/Xservers. XSTATICVT=yes # What display manager do you use ? [ xdm | gdm | kdm | entrance ] # NOTE: If this is set in /etc/rc.conf, that setting will override this one. DISPLAYMANAGER=kdm -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Xfce update with wrong versions
Hi,
this is the shortened output of my latest emerge -pvuD world:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating world dependencies . done!
[...]
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc
292 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
-startup-notification 456 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 238 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 591
kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
-startup-notification -xcomposite 1,581 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 485 kB
[...]
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc 0
kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
(-startup-notification%) 0 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 30,930 kB
Obviously there is a bug in the version demand of the last
four packages. The downgraded packages will not work.
Looking a the ebuilds I find a ${PV} that seems to be
correct.
What would be the easiest fix? Besides that, where do I
report this best?
Thanks in advance for any hints.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Very OT - gnome-panel notification area applet
Michael Sullivan wrote: On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 12:54 -0500, Phil Sexton wrote: Michael Sullivan wrote: I have a notification applet on my panel in gnome. I upgraded a package yesterday and used the new version for the first time time. The new version places a very large gaudy icon in my notification area applet. Without knowing the programs name we can only guess, but as you are indicating willingness to look under the hood, the program uses http://developer.gnome.org/doc/API/2.0/gtk/GtkStatusIcon.html if written for GTK+ 2.10, the gnome libs else. Commenting out the respective calls should be enough. Regards, Thomas -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 2:01 pm, James wrote: Steve Brenneis sbrenneis at surry.net writes: I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. /etc/rc.conf may or maynot be used to start X/kdm at boot time. /etc/init.d/xdm script to see what's going on. look at your config file /etc/conf.d/xdm to see what you have set. You might also need to run 'revdep-rebuild -p' to clean rebuild some files. You might also try running kdm from the console to determine if kdm or xdm is the trouble point and/or get some output on errors. If kdm starts ok...try /etc/init.d/xdm start -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to list sizes of installed packages?
On Tue, 2006-12-05 at 21:56 +, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2006-12-05, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's nasty. Why do some equery commands accept regexes and others dont? Because some equery commands search for packages (ideally suited for a regex), and others by design operate on a single package (where using regexes don't make any sense). But that differentiation seems purely artificial. What is there about the print size operation that makes it something you can't or shouldn't do on multiple packages? Why shouldn't the operation of pkgspec and command be orthogonal? pkgspec selects zero or more packages and the command operates on the selected package. Why the limitation that some commands only operate on one package? It all makes perfect sense when you realize this, but no-one expects you to realize it immediately :-) Well, it seems pretty non-intuitive and non-orthogonal to me. I guess that's a result of many years of shell usage where commands like rm and ls work equally well on a single file or multiple files. Okay, I've modified the size command to accept regular expressions and basically work like the equery list command. I will look at what needs to be done for the other commands as well. $ svn commit -m Modify equery size command to work like the equery list command for pkgspec arguments SendingChangeLog Sendingsrc/equery/equery Sendingsrc/equery/equery.1 Transmitting file data ... Committed revision 325. Regards, Paul signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part
Re: [gentoo-user] One more time -- KDM 3.5.5 and kdesktop crash
On 12/6/06, Steve Brenneis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had this under a title related to nVidia drivers, but I have determined that my KDM problems probably aren't related to that. After upgrading to KDE 3.5.5, I can no longer start KDE from KDM. Kdesktop crashes and leaves no trail. I rebuilt kdestop with the debug USE flag, but I have no idea where to look for debugging information. I can start KDE from a regular terminal session using startx. Any ideas? There are two possible locations to look at for error messages. Errors before the session starts should show up in /var/log/kdm.log. Errors from the session itself should be in ~/.xsession-errors. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce update with wrong versions
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 23:07, Bertram Scharpf wrote:
this is the shortened output of my latest emerge -pvuD world:
These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
Calculating world dependencies . done!
[...]
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc
292 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
-startup-notification 456 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 238 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
591 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-base/xfwm4-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
-startup-notification -xcomposite 1,581 kB
[ebuild U ] xfce-extra/xfwm4-themes-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 485
kB
[...]
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.2.3.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc 0
kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfcegui4-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug
(-startup-notification%) 0 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/libxfce4mcs-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 0 kB
[ebuild UD] xfce-base/xfce-mcs-manager-4.2.3 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug 0 kB
Total size of downloads: 30,930 kB
Obviously there is a bug in the version demand of the last
four packages. The downgraded packages will not work.
Looking a the ebuilds I find a ${PV} that seems to be
correct.
What would be the easiest fix? Besides that, where do I
report this best?
This is a well known problem that will hopefully be fixed in portage 2.1.3. If
you file a bug it will be marked as a duplicate of but #1343 [1]. You need to
get rid of whatever package is pulling in the downgrade (or upgrade it to a
version that is compatible with 4.3.99.2). That's assuming you want the
upgrade. Alternatively you can package.mask 4.3.x. --tree should be able to
tell you what package(s) is pulling in the downgrade.
[1] https://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1343
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Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
Michael Crute wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? I have had problems with Firefox 2 crashing every time I resume, it spouts some nonsense about gnome-vfs and dies. I have also on occasion not been able to enter my password into xscreensaver after a reboot, for that Ctrl+Alt+F1 and login then kill xscreensaver works without harming anything else. HTH. -Mike Yeah, I have those same problems. I noticed though that xscreensaver runs extremely slow on resume and I can't enter a password. If I wait sometimes it recovers but most of the time just do what you do and kill it. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. I have done this, but end up rebooting the vmware session every time I try, because I move around to different networks and the networking between linux and XP gets confused. So generally I'd recommend suspending the virtual machine with vmware's suspend function first, and then hibernate. You are right, it kills the vmware machine on hibernate. I just tried it. Oh well, at least it doesn't freeze. I'll try that vmware suspend function. Also, I notice that my cpu governors and being able to change the clock speed of the cpu no longer function once I resume from suspend. One other thing is that any programs that use the sound device are killed when I hibernate (because hibernate is set to restart alsasound or else sound doesn't work any more)any way to stop that from happening? Are you using the alsa drivers from the kernel, or the alsa-drivers package? And which sound driver? Alsa drivers from the kernel. snd_hda_intel snd_hda_codec I guess the 2 points of advice I can offer here are: 1. If you are doing suspend-to-ram, do *not* unload any hardware drivers. A lot of hardware expects the OS to preserve state through STR, and that is really only possible if the drivers remain in memory. I don't, suspend to ram works great. 2. If you are doing suspend-to-disk, it should be possible to unload/reload virtually any modules, such as acpi. This is because the BIOS is executed and is responsible for setting the initial hardware states. -Richard With hibernate I am still working on the acpi stuff. I tried having it unload the cpu governor modules but it says they are in use when I try to hibernate. Cpu sticking on maximum after a resume from hibernation is really annoying. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Xfce update with wrong versions
On 12/6/06, Bertram Scharpf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [ebuild U ] xfce-base/libxfce4util-4.3.99.2 [4.3.90.2] USE=-debug -doc 292 kB Since versions =4.3.90.1 are p.masked, I'm guessing you've got a problem between /etc/portgage/package.mask and /etc/portage/package.unmask. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
On 12/6/06, Mirco Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi For the archives: Problems solved. The missing ethernet interface resulted from two missing links in /sbin (udev_run_devd, udev_run_hotplugd). I've created them now manually. I think they should get installed when emerging udev. A this point I have no idea why they were missing on my system (if someone has an idea please reply). Anyway it works fine again. No, you should not have any udev utilities in /sbin now. They now live in /lib/udev. In the udev rules files, you should not specify any path for any utilities that you want to run (use PROGRAM=foo instead of PROGRAM=/path/foo). Also rules files owned by udev (like 50-udev.rules) should show an update required when you run etc-update, and you should accept the new file, rather than keeping any changes you made. You should only make changes to 10-local.rules. Also, there might be some orphans in /etc/udev/rules.d. You can find these with equery belongs /etc/udev.d/rules.d/filename. Anything that doesn't belong to a package (other than 10-local.rules, and 70-persistent-*.rules) could probably be removed. -Richard -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
On Wednesday 06 December 2006 20:41, Mirco Bakker wrote: Hi For the archives: Problems solved. The missing ethernet interface resulted from two missing links in /sbin (udev_run_devd, udev_run_hotplugd). I've created them now manually. I think they should get installed when emerging udev. A this point I have no idea why they were missing on my system (if someone has an idea please reply). Anyway it works fine again. Hmm, this is what I've got on my system: # ls -la /sbin/udev* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 40168 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udev -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 8548 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udevcontrol -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 50296 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udevd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 14440 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udevsettle -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 43432 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udevstart -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 18568 Dec 1 19:55 /sbin/udevtrigger The two you mention are here: # ls -la /lib/udev/udev* -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7468 Dec 1 19:55 /lib/udev/udev_run_devd -rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 7272 Dec 1 19:55 /lib/udev/udev_run_hotplugd No links - should there be any? -- Regards, Mick pgp6ad4Okuy8e.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
kashani wrote: Grant wrote: Is there a decent webmail package in portage (or a layman overlay) that doesn't depend on PHP? what is the problem with php? Every webmail is going to need to depend on some kind of server side scripting. Nangus I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? - Grant I've run squirrel, horde, and roundcube. I like roundcube best. It's probably the simplest to setup and the cleanest interface. I've set up squirrel and Horde IMP to check them out. Squirrel was relatively easy to set up compared to Horde, and via plugins, has pretty much every feature I want. Horde was a pain to set up, is big and slow, but looks a bit nicer than squirrel (haven't experimented with any skins on squirrel). I also installed ingo and turba on top of horde too, and I'm a bit disappointed. Unless there's a misconfiguration, turba doesn't seem to allow you to simply add a contact from an email message in Imp. And turba's mail filters seem fairly limited. I was expecting something more on the lines of Tbird's mail filter capabilities. I suppose you could get that if you ran procmail or maildrop, or perhaps seive (which I know nothing about, and apparently requires the cyrus imap server). Roundcube looks very promising. Looks like the project is going for a web based T-bird style client. :-) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] fine grained net dependancies
Mike Williams wrote:
Hey,
At some point I was sure baselayout supported full runscript depend(){}
syntax, in the form depend_${iface}(){}.
That'd be nice! I didn't know it ever worked. It would be nice if this
could be made to work again.
I have tried adding
depend_br0(){
before heartbeat
}
I've used both the old and new depend syntax to make the bonds need/NEED the
eth interfaces, and the bridge need/NEED the bonds.
But heartbeat continues to start after the first net service starts, so it
fails to start as the interface it needs doesn't exist yet.
Why not set RC_NET_STRICT_CHECKING=yes in /etc/conf.d/rc?
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Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
I'm between roundcube and squirrelmail. Any other comparative information between the two would be much appreciated. Why not install them both and see which suits you best? That's what I did, I installed Roundcube in a sub-directory so I could compare it with SquirrelMail? Does anyone know if squirrelmail can be configured in a way so as to allow usage without executing php right on the page? My apache2 setup won't allow a script to be executed from the URL because of a mod_perl module I use. It looks like roundcube operates in this fashion, but squirrelmail uses .php pages. Can squirrelmail be used without .php pages? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] dual boot install advice
Hello, Once again, I'm installing several amd64 systems with dual boot XP. I always have to nuke the XP, reformat, leave sda1 for XP and continue on with the install. Since I am installing Gentoo first (amd64 livedcd) is there any things to watch out for, when I go back and put XP on the sda1 partition? I seem to only get this right about 50% of the time. I guess when I put XP on the sda1 partition, I need to keep it from writing to the MBR, or have a recovery method? Maybe a recovery floppy to restore the MBR if XP writes over it? No matter what I try, I seem to have a knack for getting it right on the second or third attempt. comments and advice are welcome. Resizing the XP partitioning (NTFS) without reformatting nevers seems to work for me. James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] {OT} Webmail in portage without PHP?
On 12/6/06, Korthrun [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am using perl and I'd rather not install and maintain PHP just so I can use Squirrelmail. It sounds like I may need to though. Does anyone prefer another webmail client to Squirrelmail? - Grant -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list If you don't mind php, I recommend horde . Just be sure that you actually need the features it provides, because it has the potential be a hassle to setup. Atmail is a good perl based webmail, along with Neomail, which was previously mentioned. -- () The ASCII Ribbon Campaign - against HTML Email, /\ vCards, and proprietary formats. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list My work uses Atmail - it may be highly aesthetic but it's not very functional. There's a bug with the perl script for viewing image attachments inline that doesn't always allow you to view them. -- - Mark Shields
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] DVD drives
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 06:14 -0600, Dale wrote: I am looking at these right now. Can someone help me pick from these four? I don't see much difference myself. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152077 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827106010 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827136102 http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16827152075 the prices are all so close that it doesn't matter there. The first and last NEC are the same just silver and beige versions. As for the others, just compare them side by side: NEC LITE-ON LG Silver White Beige DVD+R 18X16X18X DVD+RW 8X8X 8X DVD+R DL 8X8X 8X DVD-R 18X16X18X DVD-RW 6X6X 6X DVD-RAM 12X 12X DVD-ROM 16X16X16X CD-R 48X48X48X CD-RW 32X24X32X CD-ROM48X48X48X Cache 2M2M 2M (EOE) Also, correct me if I am wrong here, these will still burn CD-R and CD-RWs right? I may use my current CD-RW in another machine or something is why I ask. If they say CD-RW, then yes (all those do). Hope this helps (and I hope my ISP is working so this will get through!) -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au Landru! Guide us! -- A Beta 3-oid, The Return of the Archons, stardate 3157.4 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] hibernation and various programs.
On Wed, 2006-12-06 at 15:15 -0800, Xamindar wrote: Richard Fish wrote: On 12/6/06, Xamindar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have hibernation set up on my laptop and am just wondering if there are any programs that are unsafe to have running when hibernating. One of the main ones im wondering about would be vmware. Can I hibernate while I have windows xp running in vmware and still have it exactly how I left it when I power back on? I will probably try it soon anyway but just wondering if anyone else out there has more experience. I have done this, but end up rebooting the vmware session every time I try, because I move around to different networks and the networking between linux and XP gets confused. So generally I'd recommend suspending the virtual machine with vmware's suspend function first, and then hibernate. You are right, it kills the vmware machine on hibernate. I just tried it. Oh well, at least it doesn't freeze. I'll try that vmware suspend function. I am able to hibernate while vmware is running, and when I resume, vmware works just as before! Not much help for you, but at least you know it _can_ work. cya, -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au If bankers can count, how come they have eight windows and only four tellers? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: dual boot install advice
James wireless at tampabay.rr.com writes: Once again, I'm installing several amd64 systems with dual boot XP. I always have to nuke the XP, reformat, leave sda1 for XP and continue on with the install. Since I am installing Gentoo first (amd64 livedcd) is there any things to watch out for, when I go back and put XP on the sda1 partition? Well, I know it's not kosher to answer your own emails, but here's what I did for lack of a smoother proceedure. 1. Use livedCD to reformat the entire drive. NTFS is formated onto the first partition sda1. 2. Use the remainder of the disk for Gentoo, reiserfs. 3. Continue on with the livedcd install, using the amd64 binaries on the disk; quick and easy. 4. Reboot the system with XP (do not use recovery CD) in the cdrom drive. 5. Install XP in the NTFS (sda1) partition; leave the NTFS formating performed during the LiveCD installation process (never trust Microsoft with disk formatting. 6. Since it will now only boot XP, I load the liveCD for AMD64 into the CDrom and reboot. 7. Boot up the livecd and fire up a terminal session. 8. go root (sudo su). 9. mkdir /mnt/temp 10. mount /dev/sda2 /mnt /temp (location of /boot partition). 11 run grub 'grub' a. grub root (hd0,1) b grub setup (hd0) c grub quit Just like the handbook. I had to use 'hd' even though the drive is an sd (sata) drive with grub.. I wish there was a smoother way to perform dual boot installs? Hope this helps somebody elseit works for me. and is now fairly mechanical James -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ipw3945d no longer starting when wifi switch is set to on with udev-103 (without coldplug now)
On Tue, 5 Dec 2006, Gabriel Rossetti wrote:
Hello everyone,
I updated my system and the new udev-103 didn't like coldplug (since it
is now able to do it itself). My problem is that now
ipw3945d is no longer started when I switch on the wifi switch on my
laptop, like it was when coldplug was installed. Any
ideas on how to achieve this functionality now?
I'm using the testing ipw3945d.
I put the init script in my boot runlevel, but I think the magical way of
doing it (which I'm going to test next time I boot this computer) is to
put in /etc/conf.d/net:
RC_NEED_{iface}=ipw3945d
AFAICT, this will cause net.{iface} to first start ipw3945d.
-Daniel
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Re: [gentoo-user] LVM boot problem
On 12/6/06, Richard Fish [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No, you should not have any udev utilities in /sbin now. Bah. s/utilities/helpers/g -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: dual boot install advice
On Thu, 2006-12-07 at 04:10 +, James wrote: ... why can't you install xp first? (I only trust windows when formatting ntfs btw :) so long as xp installs into a partition smaller than the total disk size, then install linux second, let it overwrite the mbr in the process, and voila! dual boot! at least that's how I do it... -- Iain Buchanan iaindb at netspace dot net dot au I married beneath me. All women do. -- Lady Nancy Astor -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
