Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-12 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 07:45 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
 William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au [11-10-12 07:40]:
  I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the
  process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7
  shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ - thats right, left square
  bracket!
  
  Is that a bug or if real, what would you use it for?  It doesnt seem to
  be on the file system ...
  
  moriah ~ # /usr/bin/[
  /usr/bin/[: missing `]'
  moriah ~ #
  
  doesnt show much!
  
  BillK
  
  
 
 Hi Wiiliam,
 
 this is a convenient 'abbreviation' or 'alias' for cobnstructs such this one
 
 if [ foo ] 
 then
 bar
 fi
 
 in shell scripting.
 
 Most shells have implemented this as a builtin (and 'test' also)
 though.
 
 HTH!
 
 Best regards,
 mcc
 
 

GAH! - now I remember ... goes back to my basic unix skills (or lack
of :) - must be getting old ...

Thanks all.

BillK






Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-10-12 01:17, schrieb Alan McKinnon:

 You asked the drive firmware for a favour - to please check if anything
 can be discarded and if so to discard it.
 
 cue Mafia voice a la GodFather
 
 The firmware checked that it *could* discard X bytes and then figured
 well, maybe it will, maybe it won't, maybe it'll do it on it's own
 good time, but what the heck - tell the user anyway how many bytes X
 is. Maybe that'll make the user happy so he'll stfu and go away..
 
 The command leads you to believe the discard was actually done, but
 that's not necessarily true :-)
 
 It's probably a case of the drive knows much better than you what it
 should do.

Ah, ok, Mafia implemented now ... ;-)
Thanks, Stefan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam

2011-10-12 Thread Jonas de Buhr

Am 12.10.2011 01:16, schrieb Matthew Finkel:

On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.netwrote:



Just because
the person is from China, doesn't mean we should assume they're a spammer
(following Alan's last reply).


that was not my reason to assume it and i think i made that very clear.








Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:00:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:

 Ah, not so. Until you work with foreign cultures you won't believe the
 many varied ways communication can veer off course. In some cultures
 it's considered rude for a junior to respond in any way to a senior
 (replies have to go through intermediaries). 

Is this the culture in Alanland? ;-)


-- 
Neil Bothwick

Despite the cost of living, have you noticed how it remains so popular?


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread David Abbott
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0.

 Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0.

 Summary:

 gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the
 login screen but then gnome-shell crashes.  I tried to downgrade to
 gnome-shell-3.0.2-r1, but that needs libgnome-menu, which is not in
 portage/layman.

 The crash of gdm is described in bug #385525.

 The crash of gnome-shell is described in the following .xsession-errors
 file (tracker-miner-fs.log and tracker-store.log are empty).

 any help would be appreciated.
 allan

 Are you running the updated git of gnome-overlay? I had troubles with
 gnome-settings-daemon until a couple of days.

 I am running the gnome overlay.  I didn't know it had git inside.
 I am running git 1.7.7.  The only packages that won't compile for me
 (caught by revdep-rebuild are gpointing-device-settings-1.5.1-r2 and
 totem-plparser-2-32.6).  I believe these bugs are not related to the
 above.
Here is the patch to fix totem-pl-parser with the new quvi api
https://386651.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=289447action=diffcollapsed=context=patchformat=rawheaders=1
HTH
David



Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

2011-10-12 Thread James Broadhead
On 4 October 2011 13:21, Alex Sla 4k3...@googlemail.com wrote:
 Hi Guys,

 i got a problem build gconf. The problem is somehow emake again o.O

emake is merely a wrapper around make - that line means that there was
a compile failure.

Thanks for attaching your build log, but please try searching through
it for Error, and find the actual build error. (hint: line 580 or
so).

Also: please take more care with Subject lines in emails to the list.



[gentoo-user] Why does procmail need to know what my mailer is?

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Dnes
  I was emerging system and world on my laptop after a gcc upgrade.  I
windowshaded the xterm on my desktop that was ssh'd into the laptop.
All that was visible was the bar at the top of the window, with the
title indicating that emerge was working on procmail, item 85 of 95.  I
went away for a couple of hours, touched the shift key to wake up the
screen, and saw that emerge was still on procmail... WTF!?!?

  I opened the xterm and saw that the procmail build had an interactive
prompt, waiting for an answer from me...

 Could not find any mailer.  It should be a mailer accepting at least
 one plain destination address as its only argument (any sendmail
 compatible mailer will do), and the mail-to-be-sent on stdin.
 What is your mailer called?  (You can override this in config.h)

  I replied oogabooga and it went on its merry way.  I use ssmtp, but
I've made 1 tweak to my system.  Note the following *DIRECTORIES*...

[aa1][root][~] ll /usr/bin/sendmail
total 28
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root72 Aug 12 19:07 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 28240 Oct 12 06:36 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Aug 12 19:07 .keep
[aa1][root][~] ll /usr/sbin/sendmail
total 2
drwxr-xr-x 2 root root   72 Aug 12 19:08 .
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 2416 Oct 12 02:23 ..
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root0 Aug 12 19:08 .keep
[aa1][root][~] ll /usr/lib64/sendmail
total 27
drwxr-xr-x  2 root root72 Aug 12 19:08 .
drwxr-xr-x 46 root root 27464 Oct 12 02:26 ..
-rw-r--r--  1 root root 0 Aug 12 19:08 .keep
[aa1][root][~]

  My most embarressing incident involving linux was one day when I added
a cron job, and it started sending log messages to root.  Back then, I
didn't know that ssmtp made a sendmail link, let alone 3 of them.
ssmtp did its thing, and pushed the messages for root to my ISP's MTA,
which forwarded them to my ISP's root inbox.  They were not amused.

  After a few attempts, I finished the game of whack-a-mole and killed
all the symlinks, and made sure that it would never happen again.  I
addition to configuring ssmtp.conf to send root messages to myself, I
also made the above directories to prevent symlinks being constructed.
Who knows what other programs send mail on a whim.

  This is the first time I've had this interactive prompt happen with
procmail.  What gives?

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0.

 Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0.

 Summary:

 gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the
 login screen but then gnome-shell crashes.  I tried to downgrade to
 gnome-shell-3.0.2-r1, but that needs libgnome-menu, which is not in
 portage/layman.

 The crash of gdm is described in bug #385525.

 The crash of gnome-shell is described in the following .xsession-errors
 file (tracker-miner-fs.log and tracker-store.log are empty).

 any help would be appreciated.
 allan

 Are you running the updated git of gnome-overlay? I had troubles with
 gnome-settings-daemon until a couple of days.

I believe I have been running the latest overlay.  I do an eix-sync
every morning and /etc/eix-sync.conf contains
-C --ignore-default-opts
-C --quiet
gnome
However, I will run
layman --sync-all

 Can you try to start GNOME with a clean config (no ~/.config, no
 ~/.local, no ~/.gconf, no ~/.gnome*).

I tried that this morning; no improvement

 Also, in my case, having gnome-shell extensions installed caused me
 problems when upgrading.

I do not have the extensions installed.

From the gentoo bug #385525 there is a report that disabling the
gnome-shell USE flag for gdm, permits gdm-3.2.0-r1 to run, but does not
solve the problem with gnome-shell crashing.  I can confirm this
behavior and am now running gdm-3.2.0-r1 with gnome-shell disabled.

I just now did
   layman --sync-all
   emerge --newuse --update --with-bdeps=y world

Only libraw and (of course) portage were merged.

emerge --depclean found nothing redundant

revdep-rebuild   still wants to reinstall totem-pl-parser and
gpointing-device-settings.  Both fail with bugs that (I believe) are
unrelated. 

In a fit of paranoia, I did another reboot at this point.
The results were the same: gdm does NOT crash, but gnome-shell DOES

Perhaps I have bad USE flags (-gnome-shell is a new change the others
are as they have been for quite a while)?

oldlap ~ # eix -e gdm; eix -e gnome-shell
[I] gnome-base/gdm
 Available versions:  2.20.11 (~)2.20.11-r1 [M](~)2.32.1 [M](~)2.32.1-r1 
{M}(~)3.0.4-r2[1] {M}(~)3.2.0-r1[1] {accessibility afs branding +consolekit 
debug dmx elibc_glibc fprint gnome-keyring +gnome-shell +introspection ipv6 pam 
remote selinux smartcard tcpd test xinerama +xklavier}
 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](10:55:08 AM 10/12/2011)(accessibility 
consolekit elibc_glibc introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier -debug -fprint 
-gnome-keyring -gnome-shell -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)
 Homepage:http://www.gnome.org/projects/gdm/
 Description: GNOME Display Manager

[1] gnome /var/lib/layman/gnome
[I] gnome-base/gnome-shell
 Available versions:  {M}(~)3.0.2-r1 {M}(~)3.1.4[1] {M}(~)3.2.0-r1[1] 
{M}**[1] {+nm-applet}
 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](10:41:40 PM 10/01/2011)
 Homepage:http://live.gnome.org/GnomeShell
 Description: Provides core UI functions for the GNOME 3 desktop

[1] gnome /var/lib/layman/gnome
oldlap ~ # 

Thanks for you help and patience,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/11/11 13:58, Francesco Talamona wrote:
 On Sunday 09 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote:
 On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote:
 For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins

 Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said,
 perl: enable the following plugins (written in perl): tabs,
 transparency, etc.

 In fact, that would be my favorite solution.
 
 How would you call the flag in this case?
 

If there's documentation telling you what the flag does, you can call it
Nancy for all I care.

It's the combination I have a problem with:

a) ambiguous flag name
b) no documentation
c) the flag enables basic functionality (tabs, in this case)



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0.

 Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0.

 Summary:

 gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I get to the
 login screen but then gnome-shell crashes.  I tried to downgrade to
 gnome-shell-3.0.2-r1, but that needs libgnome-menu, which is not in
 portage/layman.

 The crash of gdm is described in bug #385525.

 The crash of gnome-shell is described in the following .xsession-errors
 file (tracker-miner-fs.log and tracker-store.log are empty).

 any help would be appreciated.
 allan

 Are you running the updated git of gnome-overlay? I had troubles with
 gnome-settings-daemon until a couple of days.

 I believe I have been running the latest overlay.  I do an eix-sync
 every morning and /etc/eix-sync.conf contains
    -C --ignore-default-opts
    -C --quiet
    gnome
 However, I will run
    layman --sync-all

 Can you try to start GNOME with a clean config (no ~/.config, no
 ~/.local, no ~/.gconf, no ~/.gnome*).

 I tried that this morning; no improvement

 Also, in my case, having gnome-shell extensions installed caused me
 problems when upgrading.

 I do not have the extensions installed.

 From the gentoo bug #385525 there is a report that disabling the
 gnome-shell USE flag for gdm, permits gdm-3.2.0-r1 to run, but does not
 solve the problem with gnome-shell crashing.  I can confirm this
 behavior and am now running gdm-3.2.0-r1 with gnome-shell disabled.

 I just now did
   layman --sync-all
   emerge --newuse --update --with-bdeps=y world

 Only libraw and (of course) portage were merged.

When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but
with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay
that you have installed in your system. At least, try to recompile
gdm, gnome-shell, and all of its direct dependencies, the packages in
COMMON_DEPEND, RDEPEND and DEPEND) in the gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1 ebuild.
Minus the use enabled where you don't set the use flag, of course.

Also: modify /etc/gdm/custom.conf and in the [debug] key set
Enable=true. And modify /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop and
replace Exec=gnome-session with Exec=gnome-session --debug. Then a lot
more info will be available in ~/.xsession-errors, and we will know
more.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-12 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:42:00 -0700
schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com:

 On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy
 bi...@iinet.net.au wrote:
  I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in
  the process, ran across the fact that equery files
  sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called /usr/bin/[ -
  thats right, left square bracket!
 
  Is that a bug or if real, what would you use it for?  It doesnt
  seem to be on the file system ...
 
  moriah ~ # /usr/bin/[
  /usr/bin/[: missing `]'
  moriah ~ #
 
  doesnt show much!
 
 Relax. It's an alias for test

technically it's not an alias, but different binaries

% ls -l /usr/bin/\[
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 35096 Jan 20  2011 /usr/bin/[
% ls -l /usr/bin/test
-rwxr-xr-x 1 root root 31000 Jan 20  2011 /usr/bin/test

built from the same source file coreutils/src/test.c with a 
#define LBRACKET
that mainly changes the behavior of the argument parser in case it is
built as [.


, so instead of using
 
 if test blah; then
 ...
 fi
 
 in bash, you can use
 
 if [ blah ]; then
 ...
 fi
 
 Just do /usr/bin/[ --help to get an idea. It has been there since I
 started using Linux, if I remember correctly, many years ago.
 
 Regards.


Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, David Abbott wrote:

 Here is the patch to fix totem-pl-parser with the new quvi api
 https://386651.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=289447action=diffcollapsed=context=patchformat=rawheaders=1
 HTH
 David

Thank you.  I follow that bug and know about the patch.  Since I don't
need totem on that machine, at least for now, I am waiting for this or
another patch to make it into the official tree.

thanks again,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] Why does procmail need to know what my mailer is?

2011-10-12 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 12 Oct 2011 16:06:03 Walter Dnes wrote:

   My most embarressing incident involving linux was one day when I added
 a cron job, and it started sending log messages to root.  Back then, I
 didn't know that ssmtp made a sendmail link, let alone 3 of them.
 ssmtp did its thing, and pushed the messages for root to my ISP's MTA,
 which forwarded them to my ISP's root inbox.  They were not amused.

I have 3 boxen which would not send anything via ssmtp with default settings.  
All they did was to fill in a /root/dead.letter file with relevant messages 
instead.

   After a few attempts, I finished the game of whack-a-mole and killed
 all the symlinks, and made sure that it would never happen again.  I
 addition to configuring ssmtp.conf to send root messages to myself, I
 also made the above directories to prevent symlinks being constructed.
 Who knows what other programs send mail on a whim.

Many.  Some you have to set up to do so, others when run via cron will email 
the results (e.g. rkhunter, logrotate, et al).

In any case, I had to set up ssmtp to use my gmail account to relay messages 
before it emailed anything at all.

   This is the first time I've had this interactive prompt happen with
 procmail.  What gives?

Not sure, some one who has procmail set up ought to be able to help here I 
hope.
-- 
Regards,
Mick


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Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but
 with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay
 that you have installed in your system. At least, try to recompile
 gdm, gnome-shell, and all of its direct dependencies, the packages in
 COMMON_DEPEND, RDEPEND and DEPEND) in the gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1 ebuild.
 Minus the use enabled where you don't set the use flag, of course.

 Recompiles done.  No change
   1.  If gdm maintains its gnome-shell use flag, it crashes
   2.  If gdm has -gnome-shell in package.use, it runs
       but gnome-shell (or something else invoked on login with
       an empty user) crashes

 Also: modify /etc/gdm/custom.conf and in the [debug] key set
 Enable=true. And modify /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop and
 replace Exec=gnome-session with Exec=gnome-session --debug. Then a lot
 more info will be available in ~/.xsession-errors, and we will know
 more.

 Done.  Output below (naturally this is with the gnome-shell use flag
 disabled.

 I notice that I have the default accessibility use flag on.
 I am tempted to turn it off to reduce the number of packages
 involved.  Any downside?

Not that I know of. Can you please backup /var/lib/gdm, and clean the
directory completely? Don't erase the directory, just its contents
(including *ALL* the hidden files); gdm needs this directory to start,
and it's gid gdm and uid gdm.

After you have cleaned it, recompile gdm with the gnome-shell and try
again. I still don't see why gnome-shell is not starting, but gdm may
have problems with its user config (which is stored in /var/lib/gdm),
and *maybe* gnome-shell cannot start correctly if gdm is not built
with the gnome-shell use flag.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 16:58:37 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
  When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but
  with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay
  that you have installed in your system. At least, try to recompile
  gdm, gnome-shell, and all of its direct dependencies, the packages in
  COMMON_DEPEND, RDEPEND and DEPEND) in the gnome-shell-3.2.0-r1 ebuild.
  Minus the use enabled where you don't set the use flag, of course.
 
 Recompiles done.  No change
1.  If gdm maintains its gnome-shell use flag, it crashes
2.  If gdm has -gnome-shell in package.use, it runs
but gnome-shell (or something else invoked on login with
an empty user) crashes
 
  Also: modify /etc/gdm/custom.conf and in the [debug] key set
  Enable=true. And modify /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop and
  replace Exec=gnome-session with Exec=gnome-session --debug. Then a lot
  more info will be available in ~/.xsession-errors, and we will know
  more.
 
 Done.  Output below (naturally this is with the gnome-shell use flag
 disabled.

gnome-shell segfaults.
I remember some problems with gnome-shell and GL from the dri-devel-ML.
What video-card are you using? Drivers/version?
Is there any other WM you can start, execute
gnome-shell --replace
in a console and dump the output here?
Could you try running gnome in fallback-mode?
Afaik you can enable this with
gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session session-name gnome-fallback

 thanks again,
 allan

Best,
Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I notice that I have the default accessibility use flag on.
 I am tempted to turn it off to reduce the number of packages
 involved.  Any downside?

 Not that I know of. Can you please backup /var/lib/gdm, and clean the
 directory completely? Don't erase the directory, just its contents
 (including *ALL* the hidden files); gdm needs this directory to start,
 and it's gid gdm and uid gdm.

I cleaned it.  Then built gdm with the gnome-shell flag.  This slightly
repopulated the directory (see ls -lAR below).

 After you have cleaned it, recompile gdm with the gnome-shell and try
 again. I still don't see why gnome-shell is not starting, but gdm may
 have problems with its user config (which is stored in /var/lib/gdm),
 and *maybe* gnome-shell cannot start correctly if gdm is not built
 with the gnome-shell use flag.

 Regards.

gdm again failed (oh no, something has gone wrong) upon restart.
To be certain, I did a reboot, gdm failed again, and then *really*
cleaned the directory (including the files put there by the emerge)
It again failed.

I tried an emerge --newuse --update --with-bdeps=y world,
this complained because qt-gui didn't have the accessibility flag.

So I put back accessibility and redid the update world.
As expected only gdm was rebuilt.
I restarted gdm (via xdm as usual) and the same failure occurred.

I can't get gdm to run with the gnome-shell use flag.

What use flags do you have for gdm?  Here is mine
 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:47:00 PM 10/12/2011)(accessibility 
consolekit elibc_glibc gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier -debug 
-fprint -gnome-keyring -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

thanks for all your efforts,
allan



oldlap ~ # cd /var/lib/gdm
oldlap gdm # ls -lRA
.:
total 16
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Oct 12 17:26 .config
drwxr-x--T 2 root gdm  4096 Oct 12 17:26 .gconf.mandatory
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root  365 Oct 12 17:26 .gconf.path
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Oct 12 17:26 .local

./.config:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 gdm gdm 4096 Oct 12 17:26 dconf

./.config/dconf:
total 0

./.gconf.mandatory:
total 20
-rw-rT 1 root gdm 16968 Oct 12 17:26 %gconf-tree.xml

./.local:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 3 root root 4096 Oct 12 17:26 share

./.local/share:
total 4
drwxr-xr-x 2 gdm gdm 4096 Oct 12 17:26 applications

./.local/share/applications:
total 0
oldlap gdm # 



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:


 gnome-shell segfaults.
 I remember some problems with gnome-shell and GL from the dri-devel-ML.
 What video-card are you using? Drivers/version?
 Is there any other WM you can start, execute
 gnome-shell --replace
 in a console and dump the output here?
 Could you try running gnome in fallback-mode?
 Afaik you can enable this with
 gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session session-name gnome-fallback

Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem.  gdm crashes with
Oh no, a problem has occurred unless its gnome-shell use flag is
disabled, which could possibly be the cause of gnome-shell failing.

Canek has suggested we attack the gdm problem (see other msgs in this
thread) and that is the current plan.  Unfortunately we are still not
there.

In bug 385525, those who needed -gnome-shell for gdm could then not get
gnome-shell to run (i.e., just like me).

It does seem that many are successfully running gdm so I must have
something wrong in my setup.  What use flags did you build gdm with.
Here is mine
 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:47:00 PM 10/12/2011)(accessibility 
consolekit elibc_glibc gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier -debug 
-fprint -gnome-keyring -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

thanks for the help,
allan
 



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:

 I notice that I have the default accessibility use flag on.
 I am tempted to turn it off to reduce the number of packages
 involved.  Any downside?

 Not that I know of. Can you please backup /var/lib/gdm, and clean the
 directory completely? Don't erase the directory, just its contents
 (including *ALL* the hidden files); gdm needs this directory to start,
 and it's gid gdm and uid gdm.

 I cleaned it.  Then built gdm with the gnome-shell flag.  This slightly
 repopulated the directory (see ls -lAR below).

 After you have cleaned it, recompile gdm with the gnome-shell and try
 again. I still don't see why gnome-shell is not starting, but gdm may
 have problems with its user config (which is stored in /var/lib/gdm),
 and *maybe* gnome-shell cannot start correctly if gdm is not built
 with the gnome-shell use flag.

 Regards.

 gdm again failed (oh no, something has gone wrong) upon restart.
 To be certain, I did a reboot, gdm failed again, and then *really*
 cleaned the directory (including the files put there by the emerge)
 It again failed.

The files would reappear everytime you run gdm; they are its
configuration files.

 I tried an emerge --newuse --update --with-bdeps=y world,
 this complained because qt-gui didn't have the accessibility flag.

 So I put back accessibility and redid the update world.
 As expected only gdm was rebuilt.
 I restarted gdm (via xdm as usual) and the same failure occurred.

 I can't get gdm to run with the gnome-shell use flag.

 What use flags do you have for gdm?  Here is mine
     Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:47:00 PM 10/12/2011)(accessibility 
 consolekit elibc_glibc gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier -debug 
 -fprint -gnome-keyring -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

 thanks for all your efforts,

It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger
file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on
/etc/gdm/custom.conf, we should be able to see why gdm is dying.

My flags are:

Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:20:40 PM 10/11/2011)(consolekit
elibc_glibc gnome-keyring gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier
-accessibility -debug -fprint -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

Mmmh. I didn't even know you could remove gnome-keyring from gdm. If
you are using GNOME, I don't see no reason to disable it. Maybe try
it?

Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't
think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell
would detect that.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
  gnome-shell segfaults.
  I remember some problems with gnome-shell and GL from the dri-devel-ML.
  What video-card are you using? Drivers/version?
  Is there any other WM you can start, execute
  gnome-shell --replace
  in a console and dump the output here?
  Could you try running gnome in fallback-mode?
  Afaik you can enable this with
  gsettings set org.gnome.desktop.session session-name gnome-fallback
 
 Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem.  gdm crashes with
 Oh no, a problem has occurred unless its gnome-shell use flag is
 disabled, which could possibly be the cause of gnome-shell failing.

Couldn't it be the other way round?
gdm crashes with gnome-shell use-flag set, because gnome-shell segfaults?
It runs without the flag, because in this case there's no dep to the shell.

 Canek has suggested we attack the gdm problem (see other msgs in this
 thread) and that is the current plan.  Unfortunately we are still not
 there.

Imo both problems are related (see above).

 In bug 385525, those who needed -gnome-shell for gdm could then not get
 gnome-shell to run (i.e., just like me).
 
 It does seem that many are successfully running gdm so I must have
 something wrong in my setup.  What use flags did you build gdm with.
 Here is mine
  Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:47:00 PM 10/12/2011)(accessibility
 consolekit elibc_glibc gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier -debug
 -fprint -gnome-keyring -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

Well, I do not use gnome :) But I am quite good in reading logs, coredumps and 
things like that :)

 thanks for the help,
 allan

Best,
Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 15:08:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't
 think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell
 would detect that.

Well Canek, you are wrong about that.

http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6833430.html
Boot with fallback works for him, also using nouveau instead nvidia-blobs.

 Regards.

Best,
Michael




Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote:
 On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 15:08:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
 Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't
 think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell
 would detect that.

 Well Canek, you are wrong about that.

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-6833430.html
 Boot with fallback works for him, also using nouveau instead nvidia-blobs.

Look at that. Then it's possible that gnome-shell is failing with some
drivers/cards. The logs from gdm should give us more information.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger
 file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on
 /etc/gdm/custom.conf, we should be able to see why gdm is dying.

The output is below

 My flags are:

 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:20:40 PM 10/11/2011)(consolekit
 elibc_glibc gnome-keyring gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier
 -accessibility -debug -fprint -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

 Mmmh. I didn't even know you could remove gnome-keyring from gdm. If
 you are using GNOME, I don't see no reason to disable it. Maybe try
 it?

OK I will add it to my use flags.  That machine has profile
linux/x86/10.0.  My real machine has profile
linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome.  Clearly the x86 vs amd64 is right, but
I could(?) change my profile to desktop/gnome.  But that sounds like a
big change that could open a can of worms.  My main machine (running
gnome 2 not 3) has the gnome-keyring use flag for gdm)

 Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't
 think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell
 would detect that.

I should have said that the video is working.  The blue drapery
appears for a second before we get the black screen with the oh no
msg.

Here are the logs (update word with gnome-keyring is running now).

thanks,
allan



Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GdmSignalHandler: 
handling signal 15
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GdmSignalHandler: Found 1 
callbacks
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GdmSignalHandler: running 
15 handler: 0x8061f11
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): Got callback for signal 15
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: Logout called
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmShell: Not connected 
to the shell
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: requesting 
logout
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: ending phase 
RUNNING
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: starting 
phase QUERY_END_SESSION
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: Client 
/org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: sending 
query-end-session to clients (logout mode: forceful)
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmDBusClient: sending 
QueryEndSession signal to :1.2
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: adding client 
to query clients: /org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): Caught signal 15, 
shutting down normally.
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GdmSignalHandler: Done 
handling signals
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmDBusClient: 
obj_path=/org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1 
interface=org.gnome.SessionManager.ClientPrivate method=EndSessionResponse
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmDBusClient: got 
EndSessionResponse is-ok:1 reason=
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: Response from 
end session request: is-ok=1 do-last=0 cancel=0 reason=
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: query end 
session complete
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmShell: Not connected 
to the shell
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: ending phase 
QUERY_END_SESSION
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: starting 
phase END_SESSION
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: adding client 
to end-session clients: /org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmDBusClient: 
obj_path=/org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1 
interface=org.gnome.SessionManager.ClientPrivate method=EndSessionResponse
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmDBusClient: got 
EndSessionResponse is-ok:1 reason=
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: Response from 
end session request: is-ok=1 do-last=0 cancel=0 reason=
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: ending phase 
END_SESSION
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: starting 
phase EXIT
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: stopped 
client: /org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: disconnect 
client: /org/gnome/SessionManager/Client1
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmManager: in shutdown, 
not restarting application
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmStore: Unreffing 
object: 0x80ae508
Oct 12 17:47:42 oldlap gnome-session[3822]: DEBUG(+): GsmClient: 

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

 On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem.  gdm crashes with
 Oh no, a problem has occurred unless its gnome-shell use flag is
 disabled, which could possibly be the cause of gnome-shell failing.

 Couldn't it be the other way round?
 gdm crashes with gnome-shell use-flag set, because gnome-shell segfaults?
 It runs without the flag, because in this case there's no dep to the shell.

Does gnome-shell run before a user logs in?

 Well, I do not use gnome :) But I am quite good in reading logs,
 coredumps and things like that :)

Indeed you are.

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Here are the logs (update word with gnome-keyring is running now).

The update world (sorry for the typo above) with gnome-keyring finished
and again gdm flashes the blue curtain of life before having its
oh, no death.

The video card is intel, build into X11 no external blob.

allan



[gentoo-user] Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Dnes
  I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell
for some testing.  Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows...

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
 Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530
 Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 43
 Memory at fdff4000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
 Capabilities: [50] Power Management version 2
 Capabilities: [60] MSI: Enable+ Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
 Capabilities: [70] Express Root Complex Integrated Endpoint, MSI 00
 Capabilities: [100] Virtual Channel
 Capabilities: [130] Root Complex Link
 Kernel driver in use: HDA Intel
 Kernel modules: snd-hda-intel

  In make menuconfig I get a whole slew of codecs, i.e...

CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_REALTEK
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_ANALOG
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SIGMATEL
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_VIA
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CIRRUS
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CONEXANT
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CA0110
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_CMEDIA
CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_SI3054

  The only one I'm confident eliminating is CONFIG_SND_HDA_CODEC_HDMI
due to the help saying Say Y here to include HDMI and DisplayPort
HD-audio codec.  This is an older machine, and doesn't have a card or
chip with HDMI and/or DisplayPort.

-- 
Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger
 file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on
 /etc/gdm/custom.conf, we should be able to see why gdm is dying.

 The output is below

 My flags are:

 Installed versions:  3.2.0-r1[1](05:20:40 PM 10/11/2011)(consolekit
 elibc_glibc gnome-keyring gnome-shell introspection ipv6 tcpd xklavier
 -accessibility -debug -fprint -selinux -smartcard -test -xinerama)

 Mmmh. I didn't even know you could remove gnome-keyring from gdm. If
 you are using GNOME, I don't see no reason to disable it. Maybe try
 it?

 OK I will add it to my use flags.  That machine has profile
 linux/x86/10.0.  My real machine has profile
 linux/amd64/10.0/desktop/gnome.  Clearly the x86 vs amd64 is right, but
 I could(?) change my profile to desktop/gnome.  But that sounds like a
 big change that could open a can of worms.  My main machine (running
 gnome 2 not 3) has the gnome-keyring use flag for gdm)

 Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't
 think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell
 would detect that.

 I should have said that the video is working.  The blue drapery
 appears for a second before we get the black screen with the oh no
 msg.

Yeah, but Michael suggested that gnome-shell is crashing with your
particular combination of card/drivers. It is possible, for the quick
search I did for this problem.

What it is true is that gnome-shell is dying when gdm calls it:

Oct 12 17:47:48 oldlap gnome-session[15888]: DEBUG(+): GsmXSMPClient:
IceProcessMessagesIOError on '0x80aa870 [gnome-shell
106560af3f298b1c44131845606491723015888]'

If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging
cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to
reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing versions.
My versions and useflags of cogl and clutter are:

# emerge -1pv clutter cogl

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=doc examples
introspection pango -debug -test 0 kB [1]
[ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=doc introspection
-debug 0 kB [1]

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:

 On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem.  gdm crashes with
 Oh no, a problem has occurred unless its gnome-shell use flag is
 disabled, which could possibly be the cause of gnome-shell failing.

 Couldn't it be the other way round?
 gdm crashes with gnome-shell use-flag set, because gnome-shell segfaults?
 It runs without the flag, because in this case there's no dep to the shell.

 Does gnome-shell run before a user logs in?

Yes: that's the reason it dies on you with the +gnome-shell use flag.

 Well, I do not use gnome :) But I am quite good in reading logs,
 coredumps and things like that :)

 Indeed you are.

 thanks,
 allan





-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 Here are the logs (update word with gnome-keyring is running now).

 The update world (sorry for the typo above) with gnome-keyring finished
 and again gdm flashes the blue curtain of life before having its
 oh, no death.

 The video card is intel, build into X11 no external blob.

OK, *that* is weird. What's your card? Mine is:

# lspci | grep VGA
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 4 Series
Chipset Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 07)

driver:

# eix x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
[I] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
 Available versions:  2.8.1 2.9.1 ~2.10.0-r1 ~2.11.0 2.13.0 2.14.0
2.15.0-r1 ~2.16.0 {debug dri sna}
 Installed versions:  2.15.0-r1(01:11:05 PM 09/05/2011)(dri)
 Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/
 Description: X.Org driver for Intel cards

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging
 cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to
 reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing versions.
 My versions and useflags of cogl and clutter are:

 # emerge -1pv clutter cogl

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=doc examples
 introspection pango -debug -test 0 kB [1]
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=doc introspection
 -debug 0 kB [1]

I had remerged clutter earlier today and just did cogl.  Mu use flags
are basically the same as yours

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=introspection -debug -doc 0 kB 
[1]
[ebuild   R]  media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=introspection pango -debug -doc 
-examples -test 0 kB [1]

I am using the same driver as you but a different version (mine is one
newer) and I don't have the sna use flag.  I might not have access to
the machine an longer today, but will try.

thanks,
allan



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging
 cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to
 reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing versions.
 My versions and useflags of cogl and clutter are:

 # emerge -1pv clutter cogl

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=doc examples
 introspection pango -debug -test 0 kB [1]
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=doc introspection
 -debug 0 kB [1]

 I had remerged clutter earlier today and just did cogl.  Mu use flags
 are basically the same as yours

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=introspection -debug -doc 0 
 kB [1]
 [ebuild   R]  media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=introspection pango -debug -doc 
 -examples -test 0 kB [1]

 I am using the same driver as you but a different version (mine is one
 newer) and I don't have the sna use flag.  I might not have access to
 the machine an longer today, but will try.

 thanks,
 allan

I forgot to say that with the remerged clutter and cogl, gdm still
crashes.

I just rebuilt the driver downgraded to 2.15.0-r1.  I specified sna in
package.use but still it was merged without it.

This configuration still has gdm crashing

[U] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
 Available versions:  2.8.1 2.9.1 (~)2.10.0-r1 (~)2.11.0 2.13.0 2.14.0 
2.15.0-r1 (~)2.16.0 {debug dri sna}
 Installed versions:  2.15.0-r1(09:27:44 PM 10/12/2011)(dri)
 Homepage:http://xorg.freedesktop.org/

allan



[gentoo-user] zram / compcache, anyone?

2011-10-12 Thread Pandu Poluan
Just stumbled upon this blog:

http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html

anyone got any experience with zram/compcache on Gentoo?

Rgds,


[gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras

On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:

I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell
for some testing.  Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows...

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)
  Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530


Well, since you're too busy to use Google, let me do that for you ;-)

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/appendix.htm

The sound chip is a Realtek ALC888.  I'm sure this is all the info 
needed to select the correct driver.





Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Dale

Nikos Chantziaras wrote:

On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote:

I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell
for some testing.  Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows...

00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio 
Controller (rev 02)

  Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530


Well, since you're too busy to use Google, let me do that for you ;-)

http://support.dell.com/support/edocs/systems/inspd530/en/OM/HTML/appendix.htm 



The sound chip is a Realtek ALC888.  I'm sure this is all the info 
needed to select the correct driver.






Or lspci -k would tell what driver the CD was using, if sound worked 
which I bet it did.


Dale

:-)  :-)



Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote:
 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote:

 On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:

 If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging
 cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to
 reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing versions.
 My versions and useflags of cogl and clutter are:

 # emerge -1pv clutter cogl

 These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

 Calculating dependencies                ... done!
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=doc examples
 introspection pango -debug -test 0 kB [1]
 [ebuild   R   ~] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=doc introspection
 -debug 0 kB [1]

 I had remerged clutter earlier today and just did cogl.  Mu use flags
 are basically the same as yours

 Calculating dependencies... done!
 [ebuild   R    ] media-libs/clutter-1.8.0  USE=introspection -debug -doc 0 
 kB [1]
 [ebuild   R    ]  media-libs/cogl-1.8.0  USE=introspection pango -debug 
 -doc -examples -test 0 kB [1]

 I am using the same driver as you but a different version (mine is one
 newer) and I don't have the sna use flag.  I might not have access to
 the machine an longer today, but will try.

 thanks,
 allan

 I forgot to say that with the remerged clutter and cogl, gdm still
 crashes.

 I just rebuilt the driver downgraded to 2.15.0-r1.  I specified sna in
 package.use but still it was merged without it.

 This configuration still has gdm crashing

 [U] x11-drivers/xf86-video-intel
     Available versions:  2.8.1 2.9.1 (~)2.10.0-r1 (~)2.11.0 2.13.0 2.14.0 
 2.15.0-r1 (~)2.16.0 {debug dri sna}
     Installed versions:  2.15.0-r1(09:27:44 PM 10/12/2011)(dri)
     Homepage:            http://xorg.freedesktop.org/

What's the output of lspci | grep VGA?

And just to cover all the bases: what versions do you have of:

xorg-server
xorg-drivers
mesa

If you are using a newer version of xf86-video-intel, then you are
(probably) using unstable X.org. I am not; GNOME 3.2 I had it
unmasked, X.org I got it stable.

Regards.
-- 
Canek Peláez Valdés
Posgrado en Ciencia e Ingeniería de la Computación
Universidad Nacional Autónoma de México