Re: [gentoo-user] usb storage transfer is very slow
Michal Kurgan napsal(a): Recently i spotted that my usb flash memory work very slow, about 5kB/s on write. On internet search i discover that it's problem with new kernel (2.6.12) and sync mount option, that is now correctly(?) respected by fat filesystem. This is my case, but i want to have sth like sync when using removable devices, is there any option to do this? I much prefer that i see that sth is copied, not only then when i will try unmount device (in this case i don't know if there are any problems, earlier with sync i saw transfer rate, and this is what i want) This behaviour is caused by change in the vfat driver. It now respects the sync option and the slow speed is caused by frequent updating of the FAT table. Some info can be found here: http://readlist.com/lists/vger.kernel.org/linux-kernel/22/111748.html The only solution seem to be to use the async option. -- Miroslav Flídr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] glunarclock
Anyone emerged this and got it to load? I emerged it, but I cant find a way to have it start in gnome. (its an applet) John D
Re: [gentoo-user] mail in $HOME/.maildir, why ??? (cont.)
Q: How can I prohibit users from changing mail-path in their $HOME/.procmailrc back to $HOME/.maildir? Dont know if you can stop that. Strange. It seems to me to be a sort of security problem, if someone can so easily circumvent userquota settings... After logging there I get either message No mail, or You have new mail. But I do not get any similar message on my Gentoo box. Why? Can I somehow activate it? Not with maildirs you dont. It seems to me maildir does not have only advantages :-( Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2/external partitions question
Comments inline: moriah ~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda5 3.8G 2.2G 1.6G 59% / udev 252M 2.6M 249M 2% /dev cachedir 3.8G 2.2G 1.6G 59% /lib/splash/cache /dev/vg1/usr 32G 5.9G 27G 19% /usr /dev/vg1/var 48G 2.3G 46G 5% /var /dev/vg1/tmp 16G 33M 16G 1% /tmp /dev/vg1/opt 4.0G 169M 3.9G 5% /opt /dev/vg1/home 77G 26G 52G 34% /home none 252M 0 252M 0% /dev/shm /dev/hda1 92M 18M 69M 21% /boot /dev/hda3 3.8G 1.7G 2.1G 46% /mnt/hda3 On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 07:49 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 30. August 2005 06:28 schrieb ext Mark Knecht: That's very helpful. To test my understanding /dev/hda1 - boot - 100M Way too much. only if you are using for nothing else but kernels - as mentioned in my prev. I intended using it for storage as well as booting. /dev/hda2 - swap - 2G Can be on a logical volume, too. I have seen warnings against doing this due to poor performance /dev/hda3 - NOT CLEAR - the backup/rescue install? Why? Use the LiveCD. Some machines dont have a CD. A liveCD also doesnt run squid with my setup, a mailfiltering gateway or my particular firewall configuration and so on so its either useless, or means extensive downtime to reconfigure. For pure rescue, or a limited desktop a liveCD is fine (and generally knoppix is superior anyway for a desktop) only if you are using for nothing else but kernels - as mentioned in my prev. I intended using it for storage as well as booting. /dev/hda4 - LVM - 200G /dev/hda5 - root - 4G Can also be on a logical volume, but needs an initrd/initramfs. 4G is too large, IMHO. Mine is 256M. As you can see, I already use 2.2G of the root (and 2.9G on another system), and sometimes much more - so 256M isnt going to get me far! Set it to your own particular requirements. I dont use initrd's - too flakey, extra work thats not needed in most cases. I decided in my early experiments to limit LVM for data on the partitions that cause me grief with space so most of the root partitions including /etc and /lib are on a base filesystem (/) This can simplify working on the system. It is possible to use LVM for nearly everything, but there's extra complexity, and warnings about some configurations. Small roots used to be the way in the old days, but the number of machines that crashed due to running out of root space were legion! So you've placed pretty much the bulk of the machine in LVM and it's working well for you. That's cool. I've even placed _all_ of my machines on logical volumes (using EVMS), and it also works well. Could you possibly share a bit from your grub.conf file as well as your fstab file? I think with that info I'd be pretty confident when I do the build tomorrow morning. Partition table: # fdisk -l /dev/hda Disk /dev/hda: 10.0 GB, 10005037056 bytes 240 heads, 63 sectors/track, 1292 cylinders Units = cylinders of 15120 * 512 = 7741440 bytes Device Boot Start End Blocks Id System /dev/hda1 * 1 8 60448+ 83 Linux /dev/hda2 91292 9707040 83 Linux Everything below resides on hda2. /etc/fstab: /dev/evms/root / reiserfsdefaults,acl 0 1 /dev/evms/usr /usrreiserfsdefaults,acl 0 2 /dev/evms/var /varreiserfsdefaults,acl 0 2 /dev/evms/opt /optreiserfsdefaults,acl 0 2 /dev/evms/build /gentoo/build reiserfsdefaults,acl 0 2 /dev/evms/distfiles /gentoo/distfiles reiserfsdefaults,acl 0 2 /dev/evms/swap noneswapsw 0 0 Sizes: # df -h|grep evms /dev/evms/root256M 132M 125M 52% / /dev/evms/usr 3.0G 2.6G 452M 86% /usr /dev/evms/var 384M 210M 174M 55% /var /dev/evms/opt 512M 497M 16M 97% /opt /dev/evms/build 2.7G 1.5G 1.2G 57% /gentoo/build /dev/evms/distfiles 1.5G 1.4G 127M 92% /gentoo/distfiles Note that this machine gets $HOME from NFS, so I don't list it here. I would usually create a separate volume for each users home dir, so that I don't have to care about quota (if needed). grub.conf: title Gentoo Linux 2.6 kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.12.3 root=/dev/ram0 realroot=/dev/evms/root vga=794 initrd=/initrd-2.6.12.3.gz Note that I use a self-made initrd, which activates the EVMS volumes (needed because / is an EVMS volume, too), does a pivot_root from root to realroot and then starts up the real thing. Bye... Dirk -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
On Sat, Aug 27, 2005 at 11:44:24AM -0500, Joe Menola wrote: So I was thinking it would be nice to have a -B option for etc-update which creates /somewhere/logical/etc.tar.gz before running etc-update. Perhaps. But, I hope you don't find out the unpleasant way what it is not to backup your file systems. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, but I don't want a GUI....
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:54:42 +1000, Amphibian wrote: So I remove them, and run the ocaml-rebuild again and it's happy, so I emerge mldonkey again and lo! It installs lablgl and lablgtk, then moves on to mldoney and drops out with the same error given above. What USE flags appear in emerge -pv net-p2p/mldonkey? I suspect you are using one or both of gtk and gtk2. -- Neil Bothwick TEXAS VIRUS: Makes sure that it's bigger than any other file. pgp5uwEOeWM5b.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2/external partitions question
Am Dienstag, 30. August 2005 08:49 schrieb ext W.Kenworthy: Comments inline: moriah ~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 252M 2.6M 249M 2% /dev Hmm, mine takes 116k, how comes your /dev uses 2.6M? cachedir 3.8G 2.2G 1.6G 59% /lib/splash/cache This looks to be the same as /, what is it good for, could you explain this? /dev/vg1/usr 32G 5.9G 27G 19% /usr /dev/vg1/var 48G 2.3G 46G 5% /var I doubt you'll ever get them filled. /dev/vg1/tmp 16G 33M 16G 1% /tmp I use tmpfs for this, but that really depends. /dev/vg1/home 77G 26G 52G 34% /home As said before I prefer per-user volumes (and use the automounter to mount them on demand). On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 07:49 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 30. August 2005 06:28 schrieb ext Mark Knecht: That's very helpful. To test my understanding /dev/hda1 - boot - 100M Way too much. only if you are using for nothing else but kernels - as mentioned in my prev. I intended using it for storage as well as booting. /dev/hda2 - swap - 2G Can be on a logical volume, too. I have seen warnings against doing this due to poor performance Do you have any real numbers? /dev/hda3 - NOT CLEAR - the backup/rescue install? Why? Use the LiveCD. Some machines dont have a CD. A liveCD also doesnt run squid with my setup, a mailfiltering gateway or my particular firewall configuration and so on so its either useless, or means extensive downtime to reconfigure. For pure rescue, or a limited desktop a liveCD is fine (and generally knoppix is superior anyway for a desktop) only if you are using for nothing else but kernels - as mentioned in my prev. I intended using it for storage as well as booting. OK, depending on the use of the machine, it may be useful, but Mark didn't tell. So I wanted to show another way. /dev/hda5 - root - 4G Can also be on a logical volume, but needs an initrd/initramfs. 4G is too large, IMHO. Mine is 256M. As you can see, I already use 2.2G of the root (and 2.9G on another system), and sometimes much more - so 256M isnt going to get me far! I wonder what else to put on / that couldn't be on a separate volume? / has everything to get things set up, nothing more nothing less. If I'd need a rescue system, I would rsync my current / to a separate volume/partition and change one line in /etc/fstab on the clone and add an entry for it to grub conf. Set it to your own particular requirements. I dont use initrd's - too flakey, extra work thats not needed in most cases. I decided in my early experiments to limit LVM for data on the partitions that cause me grief with space so most of the root partitions including /etc and /lib are on a base filesystem (/) This can simplify working on the system. It is possible to use LVM for nearly everything, but there's extra complexity, and warnings about some configurations. Small roots used to be the way in the old days, but the number of machines that crashed due to running out of root space were legion! As you can see below, even my 256M are too much, only 52% are used and it didn't change much for years. Even if I would run out of space on /, I could simply grow it (and since it's a lv, with reiserfs on it, it can be done online). Sizes: # df -h|grep evms /dev/evms/root256M 132M 125M 52% / Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpfN18xOOpLq.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2/external partitions question
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005 17:50:15 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote: I'm looking at LVN2 for this install. The main drive is 250GB. I'm wondering a couple of things: I've ben using LVM2 on my AMD64 box since I built it. 1) Should use all of the drive, other than the boot and swap partitions, for the main LVN partition and then let LVN subdivide it as needs come up as per the Gentoo-wiki on LVN2? This would meen, as I understand it, that there would never been more than real partitions on the drive. I have /boot, swap and / on normal partitions, everything else on LVM. / is only 300MB, as /usr is on an LVM2 partition, /var and /opt are bound to directories in /usr. I kow I could put / on LVM, but that requires an initrd, which adds unnecessary complication IMO. 2) Possibly make the main install partition something like 50GB and use the balance of the hard drive outside of LVM2? If I do this and later add a new partition within LVM does that somehow change device numbering (/dev/sdaX) on the external partitions? LVM uses its own partition naming. As far as the /dev/sda is concerned, there are only four partitions in my setup. As someone else has already suggested, make your partitions within LVM no larger than you think you'll need, because it is so easy to enlarge them later. Most filesystems can be enlarged while still mounted, while shrinking a filesystem either requires it to be unmounted or is impossible depending on your filesystem. QUESTION: Are there any performance differences between using LVM and a standard partition? Not that I've noticed. QUESTION 2: does anythign about LVM2 beg for a 2005.1 LiveCD? Mine is 2005.0. I installed it with a 2004.x CD, so I'm sure 2005.0 should be fine. -- Neil Bothwick If you like this tagline, call 1-800-TAGS'R'US pgpdvTU5im0am.pgp Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Sound with Virtual Channels
Good day list, Does anyone know what I can do to achieve the same effect in gentoo that I get when using sysctl hw.snd.pcm0.vchans=4 in FreeBSD, thereby allowing 4 virtual channels for my dsp device, and stopping those annoying Device in use errors when trying to open 2 or more sound related programs. I have searched the mailing lists, google and the forums and have found nothing. I am using Gentoo 2005.0 + esound Thanks for any responses Greg -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables
Hi, On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 00:54:47 -0400 John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: yep. it's a bug. As soon as I remove iptables from the kernel config, ipw2100,ieee80211_crypt_tkip, ieee80211_crypt_ccmp, ieee80211_crypt_wep, ieee80211 all show up fine in lsmod. no dmesg errors, and eth1 (wireless) shows up fine. Off to bugz to log this. Nah, it isn't a bug. That incorporation of netfilter into the kernel changes some internal structs, i guess. So you need to recompile your other modules (ipw2100 and fellows - at least the network-dependent) for the new kernel. That's all pretty normal. -hwh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] equery
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Rumen Yotov wrote: Hi, Running a script to update PerlPython modules is a common issue after updating them (PerlPython) to a new (specially) major version. Try the testing (~x86) version of gentoolkit it *may* work. It doesn't. I had already tried it. For dependency checking i use the dep (ecatmur's) script Will take a look. Still, I'd like to know what the problem is... HTH. Rumen Thanks, Jorge -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, [solved] -- where do the flags come from?
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 15:54:42 +1000, Amphibian wrote: So I remove them, and run the ocaml-rebuild again and it's happy, so I emerge mldonkey again and lo! It installs lablgl and lablgtk, then moves on to mldoney and drops out with the same error given above. What USE flags appear in emerge -pv net-p2p/mldonkey? I suspect you are using one or both of gtk and gtk2. Thanks -- they were both in there, added -gtk to the make.conf and all seems well. However, where do the defaults come from? There is no use.defaults in the make.profle folder, even though the wiki http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_USE_Flags#Default_Use_Flags says that there should be. Should I be explicitly declaring flag or -flag in the make.conf for every possible flag? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Losing time somewhere
Hi I am losing up to 10 minites a day on my system clock ie. if it is correct at boot then the following day, date will reply with a time that has lost up to 10 minites. Points that may be relavent, - The system has worked correctly for many months prior to next point. - This problem has occured since building a new kernel and changing to KDE as the desktop - Upon a reboot the time has corrected itself. My questions are - The kernel was the first I have done without genkernel or oldconfig is there an option that could be casuing this? - Can KDE be causing this? though if I drop out of KDE date still outputs the incorrect time. - I tried to install chrony to adjust the time, though it seems to be working ie. from logs, though it does not update the sytstem time, could there be a permissions issue somewhere or have I lost something that checks or sync's the system time? - As I wrote last question I realised that I did my first emerge -av --depclean a few days ago is it possible that I have removed some app that keeps a check on system time? OK, well thanks for reading this far, above are the points that I have manged to scrape up but do not know how to answer are there any other points that may be affecting this any suggestions at all ? regards stu -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2/external partitions question
Am Dienstag, 30. August 2005 10:25 schrieb ext W.Kenworthy: On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 09:38 +0200, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 30. August 2005 08:49 schrieb ext W.Kenworthy: Comments inline: moriah ~ # df -h FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on udev 252M 2.6M 249M 2% /dev Hmm, mine takes 116k, how comes your /dev uses 2.6M? everything thats not on a LVM volume sits here. the biggest is /root/.ccache (800M, easily moved elsewhere) and /lib/modules I was refering to the udev line (116K vs. 2.6M in /dev). /dev/vg1/tmp 16G 33M 16G 1% /tmp I use tmpfs for this, but that really depends. I have done that in the past - but I found sometimes I just had to have the room (zipping 2G plus archives for instance) As I said, that depends. /dev/vg1/home 77G 26G 52G 34% /home As said before I prefer per-user volumes (and use the automounter to mount them on demand). extra complexity - I dont need remote mounts, and I am the main user. If you use an automount on the same machine Ive gotta ask why bother. Because a filesystem that isn't mounted when not needed can't be corrupted or its contents accidentally deleted. I tend to only mount things when they are really needed. I also use the automounter for removeable media and the Gentoo specific stuff like distfiles and building (/gentoo/distfiles, /gentoo/build). Bye... Dirk -- Dirk Heinrichs | Tel: +49 (0)162 234 3408 Configuration Manager | Fax: +49 (0)211 47068 111 Capgemini Deutschland | Mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hambornerstraße 55 | Web: http://www.capgemini.com D-40472 Düsseldorf | ICQ#: 110037733 GPG Public Key C2E467BB | Keyserver: www.keyserver.net pgpkfK2W7KThS.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, but I don't want a GUI....
Amphibian schreef: emerge mldonkey gives me this: * If the compile with gui fails, and you have updated ocaml * recently, you may have forgotten that you need to run * /usr/portage/dev-lang/ocaml/files/ocaml-rebuild.sh * to learn which ebuilds you need to recompile * each time you update ocaml to a different version * see the ocaml ebuild for details * Only one GUI must be chosen! (gtk || gtk2 || oldgtk) If I run that script, I get this: Cleaning dev-ml/lablgl-1.00 dev-ml/lablgtk-1.2.7 dev-ml/lablgtk-2.4.0 Building =dev-ml/lablgl-1.00 =dev-ml/lablgtk-1.2.7 =dev-ml/lablgtk-2.4.0 These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] dev-ml/lablgl-1.00 [ebuild R ] dev-ml/lablgtk-2.4.0 So I remove them, and run the ocaml-rebuild again and it's happy, so I emerge mldonkey again and lo! It installs lablgl and lablgtk, then moves on to mldoney and drops out with the same error given above. Does any one have any ideas? emerge -pv net-p2p/mldonkey These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] dev-lang/ocaml-3.08.1 -latex +tcltk 2,002 kB [ebuild N] dev-ml/lablgl-1.00 -doc +glut +tcltk 381 kB [ebuild N] dev-ml/lablgtk-1.2.7 +gnome +opengl 457 kB [ebuild N] net-p2p/mldonkey-2.5.16-r9 +gtk 3,190 kB USE=-gtk emerge -pv net-p2p/mldonkey These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] dev-lang/ocaml-3.08.1 -latex +tcltk 2,002 kB [ebuild N] net-p2p/mldonkey-2.5.16-r9 -gtk 3,190 kB Total size of downloads: 5,192 kB Remove the 'gtk' flag from the mldonkey emerge (this is how to do it just for mldonkey; if you want to do it for everything, edit /etc/make.conf) # echo net-p2p/mldonkey -gtk /etc/portage/package.use Then run your emerge again (this time with the -v flag, so you can see the USE flags being used). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:43:26 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm support as modules under this menu I never read this as meaning that everything should be selected, but rather that everything that you select under this menu, other than ipchains support and ipfwadm, should be selected as a module rather than static. That interpretation would also mean that you should enable ipchains as static, something you wouldn't want. But it is a highly ambiguous statement. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. pgpoTgdJd0a6c.pgp Description: PGP signature
RE: [gentoo-user] glunarclock
Holly~ Way Cool! Are there more of these outside of the ones that are listed in gnome? John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:20 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glunarclock John Dangler schreef: Anyone emerged this and got it to load? I emerged it, but I can't find a way to have it start in gnome. (it's an applet) John D Yes, I've used it several times, under various versions of gnome-panel. The way to start it (or most any panel applet), is to right click on an empty area of the panel (or the handle), and choose 'Add to panel'. Scroll down, and you should see 'Moon Clock'. If not, restart gnome-panel (sometimes new applications or applets don't immediately appear in the panel menus). Choose it, hit 'Add' and it will be added to your panel. Don't forget to right-click the applet and correct the longitude and latitude for your location, or the information shown will be incorrect (except for the phase, of course). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] iptables
Nick~ Would your consensus also agree with Hans-Werner's on this? The problem was (posted earlier) that having ipw2100/ieee80211 compiled in and then adding iptables to the kernel caused the wireless to go south on a reboot. That incorporation of netfilter into the kernel changes some internal structs, i guess. So you need to recompile your other modules (ipw2100 and fellows - at least the network-dependent) for the new kernel. I'd like to get this running, so I can setup firestarter on my laptop. Thanks for your input. John D -Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:56 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] iptables On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:43:26 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm support as modules under this menu I never read this as meaning that everything should be selected, but rather that everything that you select under this menu, other than ipchains support and ipfwadm, should be selected as a module rather than static. That interpretation would also mean that you should enable ipchains as static, something you wouldn't want. But it is a highly ambiguous statement. -- Neil Bothwick The best antiques are old friends. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, but I don't want a GUI....
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:06:30 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: # echo net-p2p/mldonkey -gtk /etc/portage/package.use Or even: echo net-p2p/mldonkey -gtk /etc/portage/package.use :-) -- Neil Bothwick Eat shit - 50 million flies can't be wrong pgpFJPrdjJCJU.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, [solved] -- where do the flags come from?
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 18:51:26 +1000, Amphibian wrote: However, where do the defaults come from? There is no use.defaults in the make.profle folder, even though the wiki http://gentoo-wiki.com/FAQ_USE_Flags#Default_Use_Flags says that there should be. Portage uses cascading profiles now, so /etc/make.profile inherits use.defaults from /usr/portage/profiles/default-linux/use.defaults and /usr/portage/profiles/base/use.defaults. Should I be explicitly declaring flag or -flag in the make.conf for every possible flag? That would be unworkable as flags are added or removed. It would also override and changes to the defaults without your knowing why. Get into the habit of using -av with emerge. You'll son see when you need to make changes to the flags. -- Neil Bothwick RISC: Reduced Into Silly Code pgpzDXuAS89EL.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] glunarclock
John Dangler schreef: -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 5:20 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] glunarclock John Dangler schreef: Anyone emerged this and got it to load? I emerged it, but I can't find a way to have it start in gnome. (it's an applet) Yes, I've used it several times, under various versions of gnome-panel. The way to start it (or most any panel applet), is to right click on an empty area of the panel (or the handle), and choose 'Add to panel'. Scroll down, and you should see 'Moon Clock'. If not, restart gnome-panel (sometimes new applications or applets don't immediately appear in the panel menus). Choose it, hit 'Add' and it will be added to your panel. Don't forget to right-click the applet and correct the longitude and latitude for your location, or the information shown will be incorrect (except for the phase, of course). Holly~ Way Cool! Are there more of these outside of the ones that are listed in gnome? Yes, a couple that I know of: gnubiff mail-notification These replicate the same function; they're mail-checkers. I prefer gnubiff 1) because its cuter, and 2) it seems to work better than mail-notification, which has the disturbing behaviour of disappearing from the panel when there's no new mail, and reappearing when there is, which the panel doesn't seem to like that much (nor do I). The supposed benefit of mail-notification is that it says it can check GMail, but so can gnubiff (if you've set up send a copy of any new gmail to my real address according to the gmail instructions, and set up an account for it in Thunderbird, you can also set gnubiff to check that (secure) account as well). Nice for if I don't have Firefox open for whatever reason (where I use the GMail Notifier extension). There's also the quick-lounge-applet which gives you a little application launcher, similar to Windows' QuickLaunch toolbar (used it once, it works fine but seemed pointless to me); oooqstart-gnome an OpenOffice quickstarter for GNOME (there's one for KDE as well). This basically preloads OO.o so that it opens faster battstat a battery status monitor (never used, since I don't have a laptop) gxmms A panel applet to control xmms gnome-swallow allows any app to be 'swallowed' into the panel (may use a lot of CPU; certainly wmswallow, which I had to stop using, does) drwright an applet that schedules breaks to keep you from hurting yourself sitting at the computer too long; ... and that's just a partial list; go to packages.gentoo.org and type applet into the search field. You'll have to skip through all of the 'k' stuff, and of course some applets are meant for other WMs (there's a lot of ROX applets, for example), but you should be able to find all the cool stuf relatively easily. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] ACPI
I have ACPI support compiled as modules. When I start gnome, I get an error that says Can't access ACPI events in /var/run/acpid.socket! Make sure the ACPI subsystem is working and the acpid daemon is running. I tried modprobe acpi (which didn't complain). But when I restarted gnome, I got an error that the evolution data server had quit unexpectedly, along with the same message mentioned above. Does the acpi in portage allow the desklet to get to the ACPI events? Or is the desklet itself? John D -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mldonkey wants a gui, but I don't want a GUI....
Neil Bothwick schreef: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 11:06:30 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: # echo net-p2p/mldonkey -gtk /etc/portage/package.use Or even: echo net-p2p/mldonkey -gtk /etc/portage/package.use :-) Indeed. You see, there's the downside of having too many aliases. You forget how to do things manually (or remember wrong, though I *thought* one of those quotes was in the wrong place) :) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] iptables
John Dangler schreef: Holly~ The Firestarter kernel requirements doc says - *Device drivers *Networking support [y] *Networking support *Networking options *Network packet filtering [y] *Network packet filtering IP: Netfilter Configuration (*) We recommend you enable _everything_ except ipchains support and ipfwadm support as modules under this menu I never read this as meaning that everything should be selected, but rather that everything that you select under this menu, other than ipchains support and ipfwadm, should be selected as a module rather than static. But even then, they further explain that this is mostly to save size and memory in the kernel, rather than some actual necessity. And of course, the docs further say At the very least, the Connection tracking, IP tables, Connection state match support, Connection tracking match support, Packet filtering, Full NAT and the LOG target support My config looks like this: CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK=y # CONFIG_IP_NF_CT_ACCT is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_CONNTRACK_MARK is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_CT_PROTO_SCTP is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_FTP is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_IRC is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_TFTP is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_AMANDA is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_QUEUE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_IPTABLES=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LIMIT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_IPRANGE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MAC=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_PKTTYPE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MARK=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_MULTIPORT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TOS=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_RECENT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ECN=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_DSCP=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_AH_ESP=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_LENGTH=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TTL=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_TCPMSS=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_HELPER=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_STATE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_CONNTRACK=y CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_OWNER=y # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_ADDRTYPE is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_REALM is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_SCTP is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_COMMENT is not set # CONFIG_IP_NF_MATCH_HASHLIMIT is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_FILTER=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REJECT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_LOG=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ULOG=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TCPMSS=y CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_NEEDED=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MASQUERADE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_REDIRECT=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NETMAP=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_SAME=y # CONFIG_IP_NF_NAT_SNMP_BASIC is not set CONFIG_IP_NF_MANGLE=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_TOS=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_ECN=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_DSCP=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_MARK=y CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_CLASSIFY=y CONFIG_IP_NF_RAW=m CONFIG_IP_NF_TARGET_NOTRACK=m CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPTABLES=y CONFIG_IP_NF_ARPFILTER=y CONFIG_IP_NF_ARP_MANGLE=y As you see, I haven't even followed the instructions properly (all this stuff is static), but, as the docs also say it will, Firestarter seems to work fine (because all the 'required elements' are enabled. Maybe I'll go back through make menuconfig and clean that all up, just so I know what I'm doing in future. But afaik, I just left the kernel defaults in place (as about all I know about these settings is that 1) I'm not using ipv6, and 2) anything that is needed for a router I don't need, because I'm not a router :) ). It rather sounds like Hans-Werner is onto something; often, when you change your kernel configuration, you have to rebuild any external modules against the new base, which you don't seem to have done. Otherwise the external module thinks that functions are available that it has to modprobe (because the functionality has changed from static to module), and vice versa (if the functionality has changed from module to static). If I reconfigure my kernel to modify a sound module, then no, I don't have to re-emerge the ati-drivers (because the kernel change is irrelevant to the external module), but the same wouldn't be true if I changed /dev/agpgart from static to a module. In this case, you certainly are changing kernel options relevant to the external modules, so those would have to be re-emerged against the new kernel congiguration. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Appropriate -march flag for AMD64 in 32-bit mode?
Should I be using -march=k8 or -march=athlon-xp for a 32-bit Gentoo install on an AMD64? After looking at the backward-compatibility issues of running 32-bit code in a 64-bit install, and the fact that there wasn't any major benefit to be had in 64 bits, I decided to go with a 32-bit install. I'll be using CHOST=i686-pc-linux-gnu for a stage 1 install. -- Walter Dnes [EMAIL PROTECTED] My musings on technology and security at http://tech_sec.blog.ca -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] glunarclock
John Dangler schreef: Anyone emerged this and got it to load? I emerged it, but I can’t find a way to have it start in gnome. (it’s an applet) John D Yes, I've used it several times, under various versions of gnome-panel. The way to start it (or most any panel applet), is to right click on an empty area of the panel (or the handle), and choose 'Add to panel'. Scroll down, and you should see 'Moon Clock'. If not, restart gnome-panel (sometimes new applications or applets don't immediately appear in the panel menus). Choose it, hit 'Add' and it will be added to your panel. Don't forget to right-click the applet and correct the longitude and latitude for your location, or the information shown will be incorrect (except for the phase, of course). HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI
John Dangler schreef: Make sure the acpid daemon is running. rc-update show = acpid | default alsasound | default alsasound~ | apmd | Is this daemon running? Try (as root) /etc/init.d/acpid start (or, change the settings and reboot) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ACPI
weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all. /etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist. /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/drivers/acpi exists (with battery.ko and some others in it). John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:45 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI John Dangler schreef: Make sure the acpid daemon is running. rc-update show = acpid | default alsasound | default alsasound~ | apmd | Is this daemon running? Try (as root) /etc/init.d/acpid start (or, change the settings and reboot) Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Dangler wrote: weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all. /etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist. /lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/drivers/acpi exists (with battery.ko and some others in it). John D -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 6:45 AM To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI John Dangler schreef: Make sure the acpid daemon is running. rc-update show = acpid | default alsasound | default alsasound~ | apmd | Is this daemon running? Try (as root) /etc/init.d/acpid start (or, change the settings and reboot) Holly HI, You'll have to emerge sys-power/acpid to get the daemon. greets Oliver Beowulf Friedrich -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (GNU/Linux) iD8DBQFDFETXcZpid1GuHxcRAtxbAKCvEjCVL1rt5mXe3YG6EhNCu35GWQCfRU0X ogd6npPVg4xfGDQXNKXofQQ= =WUTZ -END PGP SIGNATURE- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI
John Dangler schreef: weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all. /etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist. Well, you can't very well run the acpi daemon if you don't have it, can you-- and if you don't have it, how is GNOME supposed to find it? * sys-power/acpid Available versions: 1.0.2-r2 1.0.4-r1 1.0.4-r2 Installed: 1.0.4-r2 Homepage:http://acpid.sourceforge.net Description: Daemon for Advanced Configuration and Power Interface Perhaps acpi is not in your USE flags-- otherwise the daemon would have probably been installed as a dependency of something that could use it, like gnome-applets: emerge -pv gnome-applets These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1 +acpi -apm -debug -doc +gstreamer -ipv6 6,103 kB ... since the battery monitor applet depends on the acpi (or apm) daemon to be running to be able to grab the data and display it. Or are you using apm instead? Sorry, no laptop, so I don't know how to work with that... but I would assume it works the same way, just instead of compiling the kernel with acpi support, building packages with +acpi and using the acpi daemon, you would instead build the kernel with apm support, build packages with +apm and run the apm daemon. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb storage transfer is very slow
On Tuesday 30 of August 2005 08:11, Miroslav Flídr wrote: This behaviour is caused by change in the vfat driver. It now respects the sync option and the slow speed is caused by frequent updating of the FAT table. Some info can be found here: http://readlist.com/lists/vger.kernel.org/linux-kernel/22/111748.html Exactly this is the problem... so sync every sector. I have one question, how this work earlier? With sync i know when files where copied in realtime, not after the umount command (there is info that fat filesystem ignore sync option, then why it works differently with and without). The only solution seem to be to use the async option. But this makes copy process to be done at umount, also i don't see then data copy rate so i even don't know if there are no problems. Most suprising is that on gentoo we use hald, by default it uses sync option, as in my case. Whe developers made such big change and don't inform anyone about this. Yes , there are some info but only in bugzillas reports by users who spotted it. So where will by default it will work flawless... In my opinion current situation is quite dangerous, it can even destroy flash memory with fat fs (are there other fs widely used in portable hardware?), by constan overwrite of fat filetable. -- Miroslav Flídr -- Michal Kurgan -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Installing on a Mini ATX
Hi all, I have a Mini ATX board without floppy and CD-ROM. I have a running LFS installed on this server. It has a 20GB HDD with 2 partitions and 2 network connections (Ethernet and WiFi). Is there some way to copy the LifeCD content to the second partition of this disk, boot from this partition and install Gentoo on the first partition? Thanks in advance Frank PS: Well there are 4 partitions, (for boot, swap ans 2 native linux partitions ;) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing on a Mini ATX
Frank Schafer wrote: I have a Mini ATX board without floppy and CD-ROM. I have a running LFS installed on this server. It has a 20GB HDD with 2 partitions and 2 network connections (Ethernet and WiFi). nice ;-) Is there some way to copy the LifeCD content to the second partition of this disk, boot from this partition and install Gentoo on the first partition? No need to do that, since you're already running Linux on the box. Check out: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml#doc_chap6 Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing on a Mini ATX
Frank Schafer schreef: Hi all, I have a Mini ATX board without floppy and CD-ROM. I have a running LFS installed on this server. It has a 20GB HDD with 2 partitions and 2 network connections (Ethernet and WiFi). Is there some way to copy the LifeCD content to the second partition of this disk, boot from this partition and install Gentoo on the first partition? Thanks in advance Frank PS: Well there are 4 partitions, (for boot, swap ans 2 native linux partitions ;) If the LFS install is running, you can install Gentoo from within that (see the Alternative Installation Guide at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml ). In that case, you can just download whatever Stage file you need, without need for the LiveCD at all. Or you could boot the Live CD from a networked machine (I assume you have two network cards for a reason, so they must connect to something :) ) and run the Live CD from that, I think-- I don't know how to do a network install, but I'm sure there must be a way. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] firestarter [Personal Linux Firewall]
Is it necessary to build all of these modules into the kernel in order for firestarter to work properly? No, but would you rather build everything as a module (in case you find that you do need it at some point) or build research each module individually to find out what it is that you need? I don't think there's any disadvantage to building everything as a module. -- 8^) Laterz- ~Alvin http://CoolAJ86.Havenite.net --- Wow! You should get a gold star sticker! begin:vcard fn:Alvin A ONeal Jr n:ONeal;Alvin adr;dom:;;34 Fletcher Lane;Shelburne;VT;05482 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:1.802.877.2938 tel;home:1.802.985.5277 tel;cell:1.802.578.0599 note;quoted-printable:DoB: 19860616=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://coolaj86.havenite.net version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing on a Mini ATX
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 14:04 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Frank Schafer schreef: Hi all, I have a Mini ATX board without floppy and CD-ROM. I have a running LFS installed on this server. It has a 20GB HDD with 2 partitions and 2 network connections (Ethernet and WiFi). Is there some way to copy the LifeCD content to the second partition of this disk, boot from this partition and install Gentoo on the first partition? Thanks in advance Frank PS: Well there are 4 partitions, (for boot, swap ans 2 native linux partitions ;) If the LFS install is running, you can install Gentoo from within that (see the Alternative Installation Guide at http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/altinstall.xml ). In that case, you can just download whatever Stage file you need, without need for the LiveCD at all. Or you could boot the Live CD from a networked machine (I assume you have two network cards for a reason, so they must connect to something :) ) and run the Live CD from that, I think-- I don't know how to do a network install, but I'm sure there must be a way. HTH, Holly Nice reading ... 5.8. ... Mount /proc to your diskless directory and chroot into it to continue with the install. We are chrooting into /proc ??? ;) 6. ...untar the tarball that is mounted... We can mount tarballs ??? ;) So far, so god. Thanks for the replies. Making /mnt/gentoo and mount the CD via NFS could do the trick. Regards Frank -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ACPI
ok...
rc-update show _does_ have apmd (although it's not assigned a run level).
And, emerge -pv gnome-applets has
{ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1 -acpi +apm -debug -doc
+gstreamer +ipv6 0 kb
But --
/etc/init.d/apmd start shows apm support is not compiled into the kernel.
(Which I could interpret as being compiled as a module)
And --
modprobe apm produces FATAL: Error inserting apm
(lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): no such
device
(this file does exist)
maybe I need to read up more on these two before blowing a lot of time on
the user list (?) or is it a simple fix?
John D
-Original Message-
From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, August 30, 2005 7:47 AM
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI
John Dangler schreef:
weird - rc-update show doesn't show acpi at all.
/etc/init.d/acpid doesn't exist.
Well, you can't very well run the acpi daemon if you don't have it, can
you-- and if you don't have it, how is GNOME supposed to find it?
* sys-power/acpid
Available versions: 1.0.2-r2 1.0.4-r1 1.0.4-r2
Installed: 1.0.4-r2
Homepage:http://acpid.sourceforge.net
Description: Daemon for Advanced Configuration and Power
Interface
Perhaps acpi is not in your USE flags-- otherwise the daemon would have
probably been installed as a dependency of something that could use it,
like gnome-applets:
emerge -pv gnome-applets
These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1 +acpi -apm -debug -doc
+gstreamer -ipv6 6,103 kB
... since the battery monitor applet depends on the acpi (or apm) daemon
to be running to be able to grab the data and display it.
Or are you using apm instead? Sorry, no laptop, so I don't know how to
work with that... but I would assume it works the same way, just instead
of compiling the kernel with acpi support, building packages with +acpi
and using the acpi daemon, you would instead build the kernel with apm
support, build packages with +apm and run the apm daemon.
HTH,
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] lvm2/external partitions question
You can use it all or into chunks of 20GB each as the how-to suggests; I agree. I think the biggest reason to use the whole drive as one logical partition would be if you had dual SATA and you were striping. It's nice to have that extra space available as non-LVM2 just in case you need it. And since we are talking about LVM2, if you have a few partitions you can always manipulate them at will anyhow. -- 8^) Laterz- ~Alvin http://CoolAJ86.Havenite.net --- Computers are like air conditioners - They can't do their job properly if you open windows. begin:vcard fn:Alvin A ONeal Jr n:ONeal;Alvin adr;dom:;;34 Fletcher Lane;Shelburne;VT;05482 email;internet:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel;work:1.802.877.2938 tel;home:1.802.985.5277 tel;cell:1.802.578.0599 note;quoted-printable:DoB: 19860616=0D=0A= x-mozilla-html:FALSE url:http://coolaj86.havenite.net version:2.1 end:vcard
Re: [gentoo-user] Installing on a Mini ATX
Frank Schafer wrote: Nice reading ... 5.8. ... Mount /proc to your diskless directory and chroot into it to continue with the install. We are chrooting into /proc ??? ;) No, we are chrooting into our diskless directory. 6. ...untar the tarball that is mounted... We can mount tarballs ??? ;) From the text: ..., mount the partition, untar the tarball that is mounted, ... Ok, it's not perfect. The long version would be: ..., mount the partition, untar the tarball located on the mounted partition, ... Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How can I format correctly a FAT floppy?
Hi Michael, on Monday, 2005-08-29 at 16:51:54, you wrote: Using fdisk to check the partition table of a FAT floppy gave me this output: [gibberish] That's because fdisk tries to interpret the data it finds as a partition table, but actually there is none. Floppies aren't supposed to be partitioned, although for the sake of doing it you could under Linux. Just use mtools as the others have suggested, or simply mkfs.msdos /dev/fdX. Regards Matthias -- I prefer encrypted and signed messages. KeyID: 90CF8389 Fingerprint: 8E 1F 10 81 A4 66 29 46 B9 8A B9 E2 09 9F 3B 91 pgpz4JRHMKbid.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] ACPI
John Dangler schreef:
ok...
rc-update show _does_ have apmd (although it's not assigned a run level).
And, emerge -pv gnome-applets has
{ebuild R ] gnome-base/gnome-applets-2.10.1 -acpi +apm -debug -doc
+gstreamer +ipv6 0 kb
But --
/etc/init.d/apmd start shows apm support is not compiled into the kernel.
(Which I could interpret as being compiled as a module)
Why interpret when you could look:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] - grep APM /usr/src/linux/.config
# Power management options (ACPI, APM)
# APM (Advanced Power Management) BIOS Support
# CONFIG_APM is not set
The kernel default is, I believe, to set ACPI static, and to not set APM
at all. But obviously, if you want to reverse that, you can.
And --
modprobe apm produces FATAL: Error inserting apm
(lib/modules/2.6.12-gentoo-r9/kernel/arch/i386/kernel/apm.ko): no such
device
(this file does exist)
The file exists, but the kernel is looking for a 'device', according to
the error message-- many modules won't compile or load if the device
that they are supposed to be controlling doesn't exist. Does your system
support APM, and is it enabled in the BIOS?
maybe I need to read up more on these two before blowing a lot of time on
the user list (?) or is it a simple fix?
Well, the simple fix would be to just install the ACPI daemon, rc-update
to start it at the default runlevel (and start it for the current
session if you don't want to reboot, recompile gnome-applets +acpi and
-apm and *then* read up on whether that's how you want to leave it.
But presumably the problem is caused by the fact that gnome-applets is
looking for apm, but apm is broke on your system.
Holly
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Re: [gentoo-user] mail in $HOME/.maildir, why ??? (cont.)
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Jarry wrote: Strange. It seems to me to be a sort of security problem, if someone can so easily circumvent userquota settings... Not if you have quotas on /home -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] mail in $HOME/.maildir, why ??? (cont.)
A. Khattri wrote: Strange. It seems to me to be a sort of security problem, if someone can so easily circumvent userquota settings... Not if you have quotas on /home Yes I do have quotas both on /home and /var. But if user can redirect its mails from /var (where userquota is 100MB, mail is supposed to be there) to /home (where userquota is 5GB and where user files are supposed to be, but not mails), then it really is a security problem for me... Jarry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] usb storage transfer is very slow
Michal Kurgan napsal(a): Exactly this is the problem... so sync every sector. I have one question, how this work earlier? With sync i know when files where copied in realtime, not after the umount command (there is info that fat filesystem ignore sync option, then why it works differently with and without). IMHO the old behaviour was that it synchronized the files and only upon unmount the FAT table. Most suprising is that on gentoo we use hald, by default it uses sync option, as in my case. Whe developers made such big change and don't inform I think all major distros so far use sync. anyone about this. Yes , there are some info but only in bugzillas reports by users who spotted it. Yes there is not many info about this problem. When I encountered the problem I lost many hours looking for the cause and solution of the problem. So where will by default it will work flawless... I doubt that it will be changed in the near future :(. -- Miroslav Flídr -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Black background on OpenOffice and wine icons
Just when I finished writing my question I found it at bugzilla. Thanks anyway !! El Martes 30 Agosto 2005 01:35, William Kenworthy escribió: The problem is not OO but xorg (upstream). Mask the current version and downgrade to 11-base/xorg-x11-6.8.2-r1. There's a bug in bugzilla about it. BillK On Mon, 2005-08-29 at 18:46 +0200, Rafael Fernández López wrote: Hi !! I'm compiling with CFLAGS -mtune=pentium-m -O3 -pipe -fomit-frame-pointers, and what I want I've done is recompiled all my system with an emerge -ve world. Now everything has been recompiled with those CFLAGS. What I've noticed since that update is that my icons (on dialogs, menus, toolbars...) are black backgrounded instead of transparent on openoffice (1.1.4-r1) and wine (20050725-r1). But everything works perfectly, I'm using KDE 3.4.2, Gimp, Firefox, Amsn... everything works perfectly and their icons with transparency... Thank you very much. -- Saludos, Rafael Fernández López. A la vista de suficientes ojos todos los errores resultan evidentes - Linus Torvalds -- William Kenworthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home! -- You know you're brilliant, but maybe you'd like to understand what you did 2 weeks from now. - Linus Torvalds Gentoo GNU/Linux. pgpDAAZXPHg9P.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] Piles of errors from rsnapshot follown emerge world -u
On Mon, 29 Aug 2005, Harry Putnam wrote: Following an emerge world -u all my rsnapshot scripts are erroring out like this: ERROR: config_version was not defined. rsnapshot can not continue. /usr/bin/logger -i -p user.err -t rsnapshot /usr/bin/rsnapshot -c \ /etc/rsnapshot_News.conf weekly: ERROR: config_version was not defined. \ rsnapshot can not continue. Anyone know what these errors mean? Maybe try re-emerging rsnapshot? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Losing time somewhere
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Stuart Howard wrote: - I tried to install chrony to adjust the time, though it seems to be working ie. from logs, though it does not update the sytstem time, could there be a permissions issue somewhere or have I lost something that checks or sync's the system time? - As I wrote last question I realised that I did my first emerge -av --depclean a few days ago is it possible that I have removed some app that keeps a check on system time? Maybe you had ntp installed? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
As I understand the process etc-update lists new configuration files provided by the program authors. I have tried to define some rules for myself to determine how to handle these new files. 1. If I made a change to a file I will never allow the new config file to overwrite the old file. 2. If the new config file is a new default file I will accept the new file. 3. I will never change a file that is program code, (I am not a programmer). Are these rules sane? What kind of problems could I run into doing this? What would be some better rules to use? I have tried dispatch-conf but I still have to make the same decisions. Am I missing something? Thanks for any advice. Jerry -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal firewall for Linux?
Matt Randolph wrote: I've seen related threads here recently, but I think my question is different enough to warrant a new thread. I'm looking for a personal firewall along the lines of the ZoneAlarm product for Windows. I don't want to take the time to teach myself Not an answer but a follow up question: Is there a firewall for Linux that can do application level filtering (probably wrong terms but...), that is is there a program that can block foo from web access but allow it to imap and at the same time allow bar web access? (like most Win* firewalls can) -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Losing time somewhere
thanks for the response So far as I can tell I have not had ntp on my system, I have not put it on myself the only way it could have been on is if it were a default during original install of Gentoo in which case --depclean ought not to have removed it as it should belong to something [world , system ] I may give up on chrony and put a ntp on and see if that cures it, though I prefer not to just mask a problem if there is one, could a clock slowdown be something as serious as an indication of hardware problems? stu On 8/30/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Stuart Howard wrote: - I tried to install chrony to adjust the time, though it seems to be working ie. from logs, though it does not update the sytstem time, could there be a permissions issue somewhere or have I lost something that checks or sync's the system time? - As I wrote last question I realised that I did my first emerge -av --depclean a few days ago is it possible that I have removed some app that keeps a check on system time? Maybe you had ntp installed? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Losing time somewhere
ntp of any flavor does not seem to be in the default install, i had to emerge it on all my boxes. I'm from an ibm rs/6000 aix background, so I learned long ago to NEVER trust the system clock. rs/6000 boxes tend to have very poor hardware clocks for some reasonprobably because you never pay that much for a server not connected to something :) On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:17, Stuart Howard wrote: thanks for the response So far as I can tell I have not had ntp on my system, I have not put it on myself the only way it could have been on is if it were a default during original install of Gentoo in which case --depclean ought not to have removed it as it should belong to something [world , system ] I may give up on chrony and put a ntp on and see if that cures it, though I prefer not to just mask a problem if there is one, could a clock slowdown be something as serious as an indication of hardware problems? stu On 8/30/05, A. Khattri [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 30 Aug 2005, Stuart Howard wrote: - I tried to install chrony to adjust the time, though it seems to be working ie. from logs, though it does not update the sytstem time, could there be a permissions issue somewhere or have I lost something that checks or sync's the system time? - As I wrote last question I realised that I did my first emerge -av --depclean a few days ago is it possible that I have removed some app that keeps a check on system time? Maybe you had ntp installed? -- -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- There are 10 types of people in this world: those who understand binary, those who don't --Unknown -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT?]Text editor and scripting weirdness
Hi all, I was having a nice day when this started happening completely out of the blue (no emerges, no changes, no nothing prior to what I'm about to explain): I use Openbox, and I finally just started setting it up to use more of its features, notably the dock. Now, I always ran OB from a script (pointed the exec line in the usr/share/xsessions openbox.desktop entry to point to it), in order to start various apps (feh, pypanel, gnome-settings-daemon, numlockx) prior to starting OB itself. So I added the dockapp entries to this script, and (after some tweakage), all was well. Until I logged out and back in, and suddenly OB would not start from the script-- well, it would, but I'd get the 'your session has lasted less than 10 seconds' error. ~/.xsession.errors said that there was an unexpected EOF at the end of the script. And sure enough, there is an extra (blank) line after exec openbox,so the error itself makes sense, kinda. The problem is, I can't get rid of it. I usually edit the script in gedit, but I've edited out that blank line in nano, kate, and nedit as well, and it keeps coming back (I edit it out, save the file, try logging in via the script, error recurs). I can get into OB by changing the .desktop entry back to Exec=openbox (but then of course I have nothing but the menu), and I can run the (modified to remove 'exec openbox') script after OB has started, and all my dockapps and helper apps appear normally. But this is obviously not optimal (unless anyone knows a way to make OB run the script itself when it starts, but if we could do that, we wouldn't have to be editing ~/.xsession or writing extra scripts in the first place). What I want is to permanently get rid of this bogus EOF in my script, so that it works the way it did 3 hours ago. Does this ring a bell to anybody? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
On 8/30/05, Jerry Turba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand the process etc-update lists new configuration files provided by the program authors. I have tried to define some rules for myself to determine how to handle these new files. 1. If I made a change to a file I will never allow the new config file to overwrite the old file. I know one person who operated like this but I didn't agree. I think that you have to (eventually) do the update. The developers change things in these files also. If you don't change you don't get the updates, or things (possibly) don't get activated. 2. If the new config file is a new default file I will accept the new file. 3. I will never change a file that is program code, (I am not a programmer). Are these rules sane? What kind of problems could I run into doing this? What would be some better rules to use? I have tried dispatch-conf but I still have to make the same decisions. Am I missing something? My rules are: 1) The update was put there for a reason. 2) If it's a file in /etc/initd then I update it automatically. 3) If it's a file in /etc/conf.d then I update it very carefully. 4) If it's a file in /etc/, /etc/X11, or elsewhere the I update it very carefully but possibly not right now. 5) Anything else, I go slow. Maybe I look for messages from others on this list having problems before I do something. My experience is that rules 2 3 account for 80-90% of the updates. Cheers, Mark -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal firewall for Linux?
Nagatoro schreef: Matt Randolph wrote: I've seen related threads here recently, but I think my question is different enough to warrant a new thread. I'm looking for a personal firewall along the lines of the ZoneAlarm product for Windows. I don't want to take the time to teach myself Not an answer but a follow up question: Is there a firewall for Linux that can do application level filtering (probably wrong terms but...), Please anybody, correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik, this assumption that there are multiple firewall programs in the first place is incorrect. There is one. IPtables. All right, two, if you count IPchains, which IPtables replaced. that is is there a program that can block foo from web access but allow it to imap and at the same time allow bar web access? (like most Win* firewalls can) It's all about the ruleset. In this case, it looks like this option is involved: owner This module attempts to match various characteristics of the packet creator, for locally-generated packets. It is only valid in the OUTPUT chain, and even this some packets (such as ICMP ping responses) may have no owner, and hence never match. --uid-owner userid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective user id. --gid-owner groupid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective group id. --pid-owner processid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given process id. --sid-owner sessionid Matches if the packet was created by a process in the given session group. --cmd-owner name Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given command name. (this option is present only if iptables was compiled under a kernel supporting this feature) Obviously, one would have to read more of man iptables than I did, or get a GUI front end that handles this more 'intuitively' to actually write the appropriate rule, but clearly it is possible. Hope this helps, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
On 30/08/05, Jerry Turba [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As I understand the process etc-update lists new configuration files provided by the program authors. I have tried to define some rules for myself to determine how to handle these new files. 1. If I made a change to a file I will never allow the new config file to overwrite the old file. This isn't really a good idea. There are definitely cases where the new file will provide important updates that you need. Not updating the config file could lead to the associated program no longer working or you missing out on a useful feature. Using etc-update, select the file you have changed and look at the differences. You may see that other than the changes you made, there are only updates to comments within the file. In this case you can of course just ignore the update. If there are real updates and your own update looks as though it is still valid then use the Interactively merge original with update option. You can then choose which lines to include in the new file. The left hand side of the diff output is the original file, the right hand side is the new. So for each line presented, apart from for the lines that you have modified, input r to choose the right hand side line. For the lines you changed, input l to choose your version. Always verify the resulting file with Show differences between merged file and original before selecting the Replace YOUR_FILE with merged file option. All just my opinion of course... Cheers, Roger -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More splash problems
On August 23, 2005 04:25 am, Nagatoro wrote: Hi, I've got another interesting problem with the splash. It seems like no matter what I specify the computer always wants to use a 800x600 resolution. At startup I get this (not word for word since showconsole won't play nicely): Using all the suggestions on this thread I was able to get gensplash up and running. I however have one small problem the bootsplash come up some 1/3 the way through the bootup process. Now I remember seeing somewhere a change to a config file which would change when the bootsplash started. I'd appreciate it if someone would remind me how to do this. -- DWW -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] what is wrong with script
I've been trying run this script on my gentoo laptop, but for some reason it
does not work. If you see what is wrong could you email me. Thanks.
#!/bin/bash
if [ ${ACTION} = add ] [ -f ${DEVICE} ]
then
rmmod garmin_gps
chmod 666 $DEVICE
fi
--
DWW
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Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
Jerry Turba schreef: As I understand the process etc-update lists new configuration files provided by the program authors. I have tried to define some rules for myself to determine how to handle these new files. 1. If I made a change to a file I will never allow the new config file to overwrite the old file. I disagree. Certainly there are some 'new' config files that you should never, ever allow etc-update to overwrite, such as /etc/fstab. However, if the format of the config file has been changed in the meantime, some of the settings in the old config file may be invalid, and new, valid default settings (for areas that you have not changed) will not be added. This is what the '3' option is for, after the changes have been displayed: 'Interactively merge update with original'. I use this in those cases to preserve those settings that I want to keep, while upgrading the config header, comments, and other settings to the new defaults. In those very rare cases where the line ordering has changed so much that the diff utility would overwrite one or more settings, I accept the new file, and immediately edit it with nano to change the (usually) one or two lines that were 'wrongly' diff-ed. 2. If the new config file is a new default file I will accept the new file. Agreed. 3. I will never change a file that is program code, (I am not a programmer). Agreed. I have tried dispatch-conf but I still have to make the same decisions. Am I missing something? Not really; that would be Gentoo. Decision is not meant to be taken out of your hands. But the power to choose how your system is configured carries the responsibility to pay attention to the offered changes and think about their effects (which means you have to know what their effects are going to be, which means you have to learn wtf is going on on your system in the first place). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More splash problems
bshlists schreef: Using all the suggestions on this thread I was able to get gensplash up and running. I however have one small problem the bootsplash come up some 1/3 the way through the bootup process. Now I remember seeing somewhere a change to a config file which would change when the bootsplash started. I'd appreciate it if someone would remind me how to do this. Afaik, it's not a change to a config file, it's a change in the way you generate the initramfs. If you compile it into the kernel (instructions on the Wiki; see How-to fbsplash), it will start up at the very start. If you load it as a separate initrd, you have to wait for the framebuffer to initialize before the splash can start (which takes a short while). Naturally, if you change from loading an initrd to compiling the initrd into the kernel, you do have to change a config file (grub.conf, to remove the initrd= line, since you no longer have one), but changing the file alone won't make any difference if you haven't changed the way you create the initrd in the first place. HTH, Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with script
bshlists wrote:
I've been trying run this script on my gentoo laptop, but for some reason it
does not work. If you see what is wrong could you email me. Thanks.
#!/bin/bash
if [ ${ACTION} = add ] [ -f ${DEVICE} ]
then
rmmod garmin_gps
chmod 666 $DEVICE
fi
$ man test
-f FILE
FILE exists and is a regular file
I don't know the garmin_gps module and its devices, but I assume $DEVICE is a
character device. So the test should be:
... [ -c ${DEVICE} ]
Christoph
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Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
emerge nmap On Tuesday 30 August 2005 09:51, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
On Wed, 2005-08-31 at 00:51 +1000, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Nmap is what you want. It can do far more advanced things, too. But to do a simple ping sweep (and portscan anything that it finds, which will then reveal the IP): nmap -T4 -F 192.168.0.* You may need to tell it 192.168.0.0/24 instead. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
Dienstag 30 August 2005 16:51, Andrew Lowe: Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? if it pings: nmap -sP 192.168.0.1-254 hth pgpX0LUEDAIaJ.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew If it reply to broadcast query this can give an answer: #ping -b -c1 192.168.0.255 well, many answer, exclude the known ip and try the remaining ones. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal firewall for Linux?
Nagatoro wrote: [snip] Not an answer but a follow up question: Is there a firewall for Linux that can do application level filtering (probably wrong terms but...), that is is there a program that can block foo from web access but allow it to imap and at the same time allow bar web access? (like most Win* firewalls can) echo net-firewall/iptables extensions /etc/portage/package.use emerge -av net-firewall/iptables visit http://l7-filter.sf.net; for howto and faqs -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
yeah, if it's got a firewall disallowing icmp responses. then you can do nmap -P0 to find it. ping would never find it. It's gotta have SOME port open. Also, nmap can do os fingerprinting and probably show you which one is the solaris or sunos machine... On Tuesday 30 August 2005 10:12, Christoph Gysin wrote: Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew A simple for loop around ping would do the trick. Am I missing something? Christoph -- echo mailto: NOSPAM !#$.'*'|sed 's. ..'|tr * !#:2 [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More splash problems
On August 30, 2005 10:51 am, Holly Bostick wrote: bshlists schreef: Using all the suggestions on this thread I was able to get gensplash up and running. I however have one small problem the bootsplash come up some 1/3 the way through the bootup process. Now I remember seeing somewhere a change to a config file which would change when the bootsplash started. I'd appreciate it if someone would remind me how to do this. Afaik, it's not a change to a config file, it's a change in the way you generate the initramfs. If you compile it into the kernel (instructions on the Wiki; see How-to fbsplash), it will start up at the very start. If you load it as a separate initrd, you have to wait for the framebuffer to initialize before the splash can start (which takes a short while). Naturally, if you change from loading an initrd to compiling the initrd into the kernel, you do have to change a config file (grub.conf, to remove the initrd= line, since you no longer have one), but changing the file alone won't make any difference if you haven't changed the way you create the initrd in the first place. HTH, Holly Okay. The method I used was by genkernel and the initramfs I'm using was to get the autodetection feature. If I change this don't lose that ability or does it matter? -- DWW -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal firewall for Linux?
Holly Bostick wrote: [snip] Not an answer but a follow up question: Is there a firewall for Linux that can do application level filtering (probably wrong terms but...), Please anybody, correct me if I'm wrong, but afaik, this assumption that there are multiple firewall programs in the first place is incorrect. There is one. IPtables. All right, two, if you count IPchains, which IPtables replaced. Not really, there is the ipt* kernel modules, than there is the program iptables, then the various programs that use the iptables program. the iptables program is a frontend, all the other are frontends that use it, it's a question of how much the piece you're looking at is near to the nucleus. that is is there a program that can block foo from web access but allow it to imap and at the same time allow bar web access? (like most Win* firewalls can) It's all about the ruleset. In this case, it looks like this option is involved: owner This module attempts to match various characteristics of the packet creator, for locally-generated packets. It is only valid in the OUTPUT chain, and even this some packets (such as ICMP ping responses) may have no owner, and hence never match. --uid-owner userid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective user id. --gid-owner groupid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given effective group id. --pid-owner processid Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given process id. --sid-owner sessionid Matches if the packet was created by a process in the given session group. --cmd-owner name Matches if the packet was created by a process with the given command name. (this option is present only if iptables was compiled under a kernel supporting this feature) Obviously, one would have to read more of man iptables than I did, or get a GUI front end that handles this more 'intuitively' to actually write the appropriate rule, but clearly it is possible. Hope this helps, Holly See what l7 provide as application level filtering to have some other ideas. never worked with advanced options like --cmd-owner name , this one sound promising for a personal firewall but sound difficult to maintain. A question: there are front-ends (graphical or not) that use this kind of options ? Just because I've found rather ugly maintain directly iptables rules. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] [OT]Creating new named colors
OK, this is so bizarre, I hardly know how to ask it (which is why I can't find anything in Google about it, either). This is more dock stuff. I'm trying to change the colors on those dockapps that allow it. These dockapps that allow it are *supposed* to take hex color codes (#xx1x34), but they don't seem to. They do, however, take named colors (orange, MediumSlateBlue, etc) correctly, but unfortunately, these named colors do not *precisely* match my desktop. I've been using gcolor2 to pick the colors of my desktop, and I just noticed that it also saves 'named' colors. So I thought, can't I just 'pick' a color, name it, and then I could use it like all the other named colors? I suppose I could, if I knew where the heck such information is stored. Could anybody tell me (or tell me that it can't be done)? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More splash problems
bshlists schreef: On August 30, 2005 10:51 am, Holly Bostick wrote: bshlists schreef: Using all the suggestions on this thread I was able to get gensplash up and running. I however have one small problem the bootsplash come up some 1/3 the way through the bootup process. Now I remember seeing somewhere a change to a config file which would change when the bootsplash started. I'd appreciate it if someone would remind me how to do this. Afaik, it's not a change to a config file, it's a change in the way you generate the initramfs. Okay. The method I used was by genkernel and the initramfs I'm using was to get the autodetection feature. If I change this don't lose that ability or does it matter? Well, insofar as I've never used genkernel a day in my life, I don't know for certain. But if you went to all the trouble of using genkernel to get autodetection, then clearly autodetection 'matters' and should be preserved. I seem to recall Uwe posting in one of the several threads on this subject a command line to get genkernel to include the splash data (as well as whatever its already set to generate). That information might be on the Wiki as well. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: [OT?]Text editor and scripting weirdness
Hi, * Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30/08/05 17:30]: Hi all, I was having a nice day when this started happening completely out of the blue (no emerges, no changes, no nothing prior to what I'm about to explain): I use Openbox, and I finally just started setting it up to use more of its features, notably the dock. Now, I always ran OB from a script (pointed the exec line in the usr/share/xsessions openbox.desktop entry to point to it), in order to start various apps (feh, pypanel, gnome-settings-daemon, numlockx) prior to starting OB itself. Why do you have to modify the .desktop file? don't you have an option in the display manager to choose the xsession file? So I added the dockapp entries to this script, and (after some tweakage), all was well. Until I logged out and back in, and suddenly OB would not start from the script-- well, it would, but I'd get the 'your session has lasted less than 10 seconds' error. ~/.xsession.errors said that there was an unexpected EOF at the end of the script. And sure enough, there is an extra (blank) line after exec openbox,so the error itself makes sense, kinda. I find it highly unlikely that this is the problem. This should be just a regular shell script, and should have no problems with blank lines. Can you post this file? The problem is, I can't get rid of it. I usually edit the script in gedit, but I've edited out that blank line in nano, kate, and nedit as well, and it keeps coming back (I edit it out, save the file, try logging in via the script, error recurs). The convention is that text files should end with an eol. I guess these editors add it. I know vim does it, unless you explicitly ask it not to. I can get into OB by changing the .desktop entry back to Exec=openbox (but then of course I have nothing but the menu), and I can run the (modified to remove 'exec openbox') script after OB has started, and all my dockapps and helper apps appear normally. But this is obviously not optimal (unless anyone knows a way to make OB run the script itself when it starts, but if we could do that, we wouldn't have to be editing ~/.xsession or writing extra scripts in the first place). I use fluxbox, which I think is very similar, and I can specify startup applications in the ~/.fluxbox/apps file. But I think using ~/.xsession is better, since then if you decide to switch to another wm, you can just change one line in .xsession, and still have the same other apps running. What I want is to permanently get rid of this bogus EOF in my script, so that it works the way it did 3 hours ago. As I said, I don't believe it's the problem. Can you post .xsession and .xsession-errors? Moshe Does this ring a bell to anybody? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- I love deadlines. I like the whooshing sound they make as they fly by. -- Douglas Adams Moshe Kaminsky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Home: 08-9456841 pgpxXwoueY3NM.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] mail in $HOME/.maildir, why ??? (cont.)
On Mon August 29 2005 04:19 pm, A. Khattri wrote: And last question: I have access to one Debian box (which uses mbox format). After logging there I get either message No mail, or You have new mail. But I do not get any similar message on my Gentoo box. Why? Can I somehow activate it? Not with maildirs you dont. I'm not so sure this is true. I've been using Maildirs for 8 years and I get these messages on my Fedora Core machines, but I haven't bothered seeing why I don't on Gentoo. -- Ron -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 16:46 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Jerry Turba schreef: As I understand the process etc-update lists new configuration files provided by the program authors. I have tried to define some rules for myself to determine how to handle these new files. 1. If I made a change to a file I will never allow the new config file to overwrite the old file. I disagree. Certainly there are some 'new' config files that you should never, ever allow etc-update to overwrite, such as /etc/fstab. However, if the format of the config file has been changed in the meantime, some of the settings in the old config file may be invalid, and new, valid default settings (for areas that you have not changed) will not be added. This is what the '3' option is for, after the changes have been displayed: 'Interactively merge update with original'. I use this in those cases to preserve those settings that I want to keep, while upgrading the config header, comments, and other settings to the new defaults. In those very rare cases where the line ordering has changed so much that the diff utility would overwrite one or more settings, I accept the new file, and immediately edit it with nano to change the (usually) one or two lines that were 'wrongly' diff-ed. 2. If the new config file is a new default file I will accept the new file. Agreed. 3. I will never change a file that is program code, (I am not a programmer). Agreed. I have tried dispatch-conf but I still have to make the same decisions. Am I missing something? Not really; that would be Gentoo. Decision is not meant to be taken out of your hands. But the power to choose how your system is configured carries the responsibility to pay attention to the offered changes and think about their effects (which means you have to know what their effects are going to be, which means you have to learn wtf is going on on your system in the first place). Holly While I agree that etc-update is a vast improvement over other package systems, it would be nice to have a CVS type merge where I only have to make choices when the system can't figure it out. It seems like etc-update (and friends) should be able to take advantage of mtime metadata and md5 checksums to determine if I've made any modifications to the default config file. That way an unmodified default config from version N can just safely be replaced with the new default for version N +1. Does this functionality already exist with the current etc-update? Eric C. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Proposed option for etc-update
On Monday 29 August 2005 01:59 am, A. Khattri wrote: On Sat, 27 Aug 2005, Kai Ole Schultz wrote: Why not use dispatch-conf instead? Because it has some annoying quirks of its own that made me go back to etc-update. Etc-update would be perfect if it had the archiving features added to it. That said, I would rather use it (and be very very careful) rather than put up with dispatch-conf. I use cfg-update and have been happy with it for a while. Mike -- Michael W. Holdeman Powered by Gentoo Linux www.gentoo.org | Kernel 2.6.11-ck8 | Win4Lin 5-1-20 netraverse.com | Win4LinPro 6.1.1-03 win4lin.com | | -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To emerge -e world or not to emerge -e world?
$ emerge -ep system | genlop -p [...] Estimated update time: 2 hours, 30 minutes. $ emerge -ep world | genlop -p [...] Estimated update time: 14 hours, 40 minutes. But genlop is entitled to make mistakes. Those did seem like rather small numbers to me. What would be more realistic? 100 hours? Mark Shields wrote: Depending on what you have installed, it will take more than 14 hours. Are you sure they're talking about emerge -e system and not emerge -e world? On 8/29/05, *Matt Randolph* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I know that upgrading glibc can cause some programs to break if they were built against the previous glibc. This happens to me all the time and I have gotten in the habit of simply re-emerging any packages that misbehave since a glibc upgrade. Well, I have upgraded both glibc and gcc within the last week or so. And I've been contemplating a kernel upgrade too. I looked at genlop and it said it will take a mere fourteen hours to re-emerge everything with an emerge -e world. I'm tempted to do it, but I'm wary of making major changes to a system that currently seems to be working perfectly. However, I've only tested a handful of packages (the ones that I use every day) since the glibc upgrade, and I did have to rebuild a few of them. For this reason, I'm guessing that a significant number of the packages that I haven't tested are actually broken too. So when I say my system seems to be working perfectly, I think that only applies to the packages that I interact with daily and probably not to some of the ones that I don't. When does it make sense to re-emerge everything? I've heard some people say never but that others do it perhaps monthly or even more often. Is there a (significant) risk that something will go wrong? Even terribly wrong? Is it possible that some important programs aren't working right now due to having been built against an older glibc, and that I'm simply oblivious to the fact that they aren't working? I'm worried specifically about system programs that I don't usually have reason to interact with, yet may be vitally important to the security and stability of my system. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailto:gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- - Mark Shields -- Pluralitas non est ponenda sine necessitate - W. of O. -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] what is wrong with script
Have a look at the comp.unix.shell newsgroup. There are some insanely
talented people in there dispensing free advice.
bshlists wrote:
I've been trying run this script on my gentoo laptop, but for some reason it
does not work. If you see what is wrong could you email me. Thanks.
#!/bin/bash
if [ ${ACTION} = add ] [ -f ${DEVICE} ]
then
rmmod garmin_gps
chmod 666 $DEVICE
fi
--
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT?]Text editor and scripting weirdness [SOLVED?]
Moshe Kaminsky schreef: Hi, * Holly Bostick [EMAIL PROTECTED] [30/08/05 17:30]: Hi all, I was having a nice day when this started happening completely out of the blue (no emerges, no changes, no nothing prior to what I'm about to explain): I use Openbox, and I finally just started setting it up to use more of its features, notably the dock. Now, I always ran OB from a script (pointed the exec line in the usr/share/xsessions openbox.desktop entry to point to it), in order to start various apps (feh, pypanel, gnome-settings-daemon, numlockx) prior to starting OB itself. Why do you have to modify the .desktop file? don't you have an option in the display manager to choose the xsession file? Yes, but when I created this script, I had ROX installed, which itself takes over the xsession file. So I had to create a separate script in order to use both WMs, and so I had to point the desktop file to the OB script (as xsession was unavailable). Even though I don't use ROX anymore, I don't know if I might at some point try another WM that has the same behaviour, and besides, this way, I know where the script is and what it's called (it's unique), which (seems to) makes it easier to manage. I usually edit the script in gedit, but I've edited out that blank line in nano, kate, and nedit as well, and it keeps coming back (I edit it out, save the file, try logging in via the script, error recurs). The convention is that text files should end with an eol. I guess these editors add it. I know vim does it, unless you explicitly ask it not to. I can get into OB by changing the .desktop entry back to Exec=openbox (but then of course I have nothing but the menu), and I can run the (modified to remove 'exec openbox') script after OB has started, and all my dockapps and helper apps appear normally. But this is obviously not optimal (unless anyone knows a way to make OB run the script itself when it starts, but if we could do that, we wouldn't have to be editing ~/.xsession or writing extra scripts in the first place). I use fluxbox, which I think is very similar, and I can specify startup applications in the ~/.fluxbox/apps file. But I think using ~/.xsession is better, since then if you decide to switch to another wm, you can just change one line in .xsession, and still have the same other apps running. Not all that similar. Maybe to Openbox 2, but I've never used that. Openbox 3 is a total rewrite that is likely only called *box because that's what it used to be called, not because it bears any real relationship to flux/black/previous open -box. I don't even have an ~/.xsession. And if I have to create such a file, I'd just as soon create a unique script. That way I don't have to go editing .xsession if I change display managers, or forego a display manager entirely. What I want is to permanently get rid of this bogus EOF in my script, so that it works the way it did 3 hours ago. As I said, I don't believe it's the problem. Can you post .xsession and .xsession-errors? As I said, I don't have a ~/.xsession; the only one I have is the unmodified one in /etc. But what's weird now is: I opened up my script (in gedit), copied all the text, pasted it into a new file, added the 'exec openbox' line at the end (without ending it with a return, of course), saved it to $HOME under a new name, made the new file executable, and logged out/in-- and it worked perfectly normally. I'm starting to wonder if this is an X problem, or a GDM problem, or an fglrx, or very remotely an Openbox problem; I've had random intermittent problems with X display for the past couple of weeks, and the three things I've done in that time have been upgrade GDM upgrade the fglrx drivers (which I'm about to downgrade again) play with the fglrx options (to see if they helped the driver work). I also seem to be having a serious heat problem (the CPU is running very very hot), and though the system seems stable (i.e., it doesn't lock or crash), I suppose that could also cause random intermittent and seemingly untrackable problems as well. But thanks for the help; I guess I've got enough possible vectors to examine on my own that I shouldn't have bothered the list, but it was just so weird to see a script that I've been using for over a year should suddenly fail out of the blue. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] How to work with etc-updates.
On Tue, 30 Aug 2005 12:06:29 -0400, Eric Crossman wrote: While I agree that etc-update is a vast improvement over other package systems, it would be nice to have a CVS type merge where I only have to make choices when the system can't figure it out. It seems like etc-update (and friends) should be able to take advantage of mtime metadata and md5 checksums to determine if I've made any modifications to the default config file. That way an unmodified default config from version N can just safely be replaced with the new default for version N +1. Does this functionality already exist with the current etc-update? It exists as an option with dispatch-conf, as do options to automatically replace files if the only differences are whitespace and comments. -- Neil Bothwick Distrust any enterprise that requires new clothes. - Henry David Thoreau (1817-1862) pgp9E5BWrfoFO.pgp Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] desktop settings
On 8/29/05, John Dangler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On my gnome desktop in the default panel I currently have gaim and an xterm. I tried to open a mozilla browser at an empty page (default), but when I close and save settings, I get a message telling me that it cannot save mozilla and closes it. Is there a way to have mozilla available when I login to a gnome session? Mozilla unfortunately doesn't have complete session support. The epiphany browser, which is also based on mozilla does. You can also manually add mozilla to your session, like the other reply suggests. -- Calvin Walton -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] More splash problems
On Tuesday 30 August 2005 15:51, Holly Bostick wrote: bshlists schreef: Using all the suggestions on this thread I was able to get gensplash up and running. I however have one small problem the bootsplash come up some 1/3 the way through the bootup process. Now I remember seeing somewhere a change to a config file which would change when the bootsplash started. I'd appreciate it if someone would remind me how to do this. Afaik, it's not a change to a config file, it's a change in the way you generate the initramfs. If you compile it into the kernel (instructions on the Wiki; see How-to fbsplash), it will start up at the very start. If you load it as a separate initrd, you have to wait for the framebuffer to initialize before the splash can start (which takes a short while). Naturally, if you change from loading an initrd to compiling the initrd into the kernel, you do have to change a config file (grub.conf, to remove the initrd= line, since you no longer have one), but changing the file alone won't make any difference if you haven't changed the way you create the initrd in the first place. I have two 2.6.12-r9 kernels ATM one which has framebuffer splash on all ttys and the other which only has boot splash. The bootsplash one starts after the udev message and the other one starts after the initial uncompressing kernel message (which IIRC is when the framebuffer starts, for sure its when the console changes to 1024x768 on this box) As far as I know the .config files were the same apart from the fbsplash support. (can't check now as I've been kernel compiling to test some new scsi hardware:-( and forgot to save the old .config ) If this is not very clear, both kernels have framebuffers, one has bootsplash, and the other has bootsplash and pretty pictures on tty1-6. the initrd is the same in both cases, not in the kernel. Wonderful are the ways of splash. Tony Davison [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Does GAIM 1.5 need evolution-data-server?
Hi All: Does GAIM 1.5 now need evolution-data-server? emerge Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] app-crypt/opencdk-0.5.5 -doc 322 kB [ebuild N] dev-libs/libtasn1-0.2.13 -doc 855 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/gnutls-1.2.3 +crypt -doc +zlib 2,389 kB [ebuild N] net-libs/libsoup-2.2.3-r1 -debug -doc +ssl -static 349 kB [ebuild N] gnome-extra/evolution-data-server-1.2.3 -debug -doc +ipv6 -kerberos +ldap -mozilla -nntp +ssl 13,821 kB [ebuild U ] net-im/gaim-1.5.0 [1.3.1] -cjk -debug +eds* -gnutls -krb4 -nas +nls +perl -silc +spell +tcltk 5,979 kB Total size of downloads: 23,718 kB /emerge Thanks, Hareesh -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does GAIM 1.5 need evolution-data-server?
Hareesh Nagarajan: Hi All: Does GAIM 1.5 now need evolution-data-server? I don't know ;-) But I can notice: emerge ... [ebuild U ] net-im/gaim-1.5.0 [1.3.1] -cjk -debug +eds* -gnutls ^ | Perhaps you coud try -eds. HTH Sergio -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Does GAIM 1.5 need evolution-data-server?
Hareesh Nagarajan schreef: Hi All: Does GAIM 1.5 now need evolution-data-server? emerge Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild U ] net-im/gaim-1.5.0 [1.3.1] -cjk -debug +eds* -gnutls No, it doesn't *need* it-- but do you see that +eds with a star? That's the new USE flag which pulls in evo data server if set. So unset it if you don't want eds. USE flags are *optional*. GAIM can use eds if that would be somehow useful to any given user, but it doesn't have to, if you don't want it. As soon as I saw this new flag (you know it's new because it's green and it has a star), I immediately put -eds in /etc/make.conf (because I have no use for eds, so I didn't need to disable it by package. But that's an option too, if you want eds for some things, but not others). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding other machines on the network
On 30 August 2005 15:51, Andrew Lowe wrote: Hi all, I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Is there a utilitiy in portage that will try all of the ip addresses in a range and let me know if something it at the other end, ie something like automatically pinging all of the addresses in a range and reporting what addresses responded? Can't you remote log in and do ifconfig? Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Losing time somewhere
On 30 August 2005 15:17, Stuart Howard wrote: thanks for the response So far as I can tell I have not had ntp on my system, I have not put it on myself the only way it could have been on is if it were a default during original install of Gentoo in which case --depclean ought not to have removed it as it should belong to something [world , system ] I may give up on chrony and put a ntp on and see if that cures it, though I prefer not to just mask a problem if there is one, could a clock slowdown be something as serious as an indication of hardware problems? Not really since your clock is on time after a boot. Please understand that there are two clocks involved. One is a hardware clock. The other one is the system clock which is software. date shows the system clock. During the boot process, the content of the hardware clock is copied to the system clock. That's why your system clock is correct after booting. It also shows that your hardware clock is doing fine. Your system clock is misbehaving. Whatever the reason for its sluggishness, ntpd or ntpdate (using an ntp server near you) should solve. Or, since your hardware clock is alright, a simple hwclock -ru (if your clock is set to UTC) or hwclock -r (if not so) should do the trick. Let cron execute it every hour or so. Uwe -- 95% of all programmers rate themselves among the top 5% of all software developers. - Linus Torvalds http://www.uwix.iway.na (last updated: 20.06.2004) -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] rsync problems
Hello, I'm having a problem with rsync on one of my servers. Every time I rsync from one of the gentoo portage mirrors, it tells me rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1064). I've tried re-emerging rsync and re-emerging portage but to no avail. I know it isn't a firewall/routing issue because all my other Gentoo boxen can sync without a problem. Thanks! -- Lord Imbrius the Despondent Geek, Supreme High Lord of Nonsense [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync problems
Joshua Armstrong schreef: Hello, I'm having a problem with rsync on one of my servers. Every time I rsync from one of the gentoo portage mirrors, it tells me rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1064). I've tried re-emerging rsync and re-emerging portage but to no avail. I know it isn't a firewall/routing issue because all my other Gentoo boxen can sync without a problem. Thanks! Are the other boxes that aren't having the problem syncing with the same server as the box that is having the problem? Have you tried changing the mirror that the box with the problem is syncing with? Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] rsync problems
They are syncing from the same mirror. I haven't tried changing mirrors though. If it helps, when I read the kernel logs I notice that during the time it's syncing, I see a lot of readlink() failed: I/O error for files in /usr/portage. I've run fsck on the disk and it detects no errors. All other apps can read all the files in /usr/portage without a problem. Thanks for all your help! On Tue, 2005-08-30 at 21:02 +0200, Holly Bostick wrote: Joshua Armstrong schreef: Hello, I'm having a problem with rsync on one of my servers. Every time I rsync from one of the gentoo portage mirrors, it tells me rsync error: some files could not be transferred (code 23) at main.c(1064). I've tried re-emerging rsync and re-emerging portage but to no avail. I know it isn't a firewall/routing issue because all my other Gentoo boxen can sync without a problem. Thanks! Are the other boxes that aren't having the problem syncing with the same server as the box that is having the problem? Have you tried changing the mirror that the box with the problem is syncing with? Holly -- Lord Imbrius the Despondent Geek, Supreme High Lord of Nonsense [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Personal firewall for Linux?
Holly Bostick wrote: It's all about the ruleset. In this case, it looks like this option is involved: [...] Thanks. This seems like it would do the trick. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] thunderbird stopped opening firefox windows...
Antoine schreef: Hi, When I click on an email now nothing happens. It was fine and dandy for a while but now nothing... anyone got any ideas? Cheers Antoine Perhaps Firefox is no longer set as your default browser (it must be reset after an upgrade)? Maybe Thunderbird is trying to open links in some other browser that does not exist on the system anymore, or needs a specific command to open which has not been specified (for instance, if it had defaulted down to lynx or something). Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Creating new named colors
Holly Bostick wrote: OK, this is so bizarre, I hardly know how to ask it (which is why I can't find anything in Google about it, either). This is more dock stuff. I'm trying to change the colors on those dockapps that allow it. These dockapps that allow it are *supposed* to take hex color codes (#xx1x34), but they don't seem to. They do, however, take named colors (orange, MediumSlateBlue, etc) correctly, but unfortunately, these named colors do not *precisely* match my desktop. I've been using gcolor2 to pick the colors of my desktop, and I just noticed that it also saves 'named' colors. So I thought, can't I just 'pick' a color, name it, and then I could use it like all the other named colors? I suppose I could, if I knew where the heck such information is stored. Perhaps /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt is it. There's a (masked) ebuild x11-apps/rgb. My xorg.conf has: RgbPath /usr/lib/X11/rgb Alas, /usr/lib/X11/rgb doesn't exist here. The man page of showrgb talks about a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb file, which doesn't exist here, neither. strace -eopen showrgb shows that it reads /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt directly. Hmm. Could anybody tell me (or tell me that it can't be done)? Perhaps it's easier to fix the application that fails to take hex color codes? Regards... Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Re: Finding other machines on the network
Uwe Thiem wrote: On 30 August 2005 15:51, Andrew Lowe wrote: I have the situation where I've been loaned an old Sun SPARC box for some work. It has a static IP somewhere in the 192.168.0.* range, which my home network also is in. My question is, how can I find out the IP address of the machine? I've forgotten what it is and it's also headless with no keyboard. Can't you remote log in and do ifconfig? How can he log in if he doesn't know the IP address? Regards... Michael -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 - which stage3 file for new install?
John, As per a thread over the last couple of days I was planningon using the 2005.0 CD that I've used for a number of other machines, but that CD doesn't have any 64-bit stuff on it. If there's a 64-bit install CD then I'll go look for that. Thanks for the info! With best regards, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is an actual one on the 64-bit universal install cd which install cd did you download? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:09, Mark Knecht wrote: Unless I missed it this page doesn't seem to indicate which one to use for an AMD64 processor. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 So, is it: stage3-i686-2005.0.tar.bz stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz or is there an actual AMD64 stage file somewhere on the net I should be using? Thanks, Mark -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] To emerge -e world or not to emerge -e world?
On Tue, Aug 30, 2005 at 12:20:22PM -0400, Matt Randolph wrote: $ emerge -ep system | genlop -p [...] Estimated update time: 2 hours, 30 minutes. whoa! that is scary. 2 hours 30 minutes is barely enough for me to emerge gcc and glibc. $ emerge -ep world | genlop -p [...] Estimated update time: 14 hours, 40 minutes. But genlop is entitled to make mistakes. Those did seem like rather small numbers to me. What would be more realistic? 100 hours? 2 days? W -- Chocolate has many preservatives. Preservatives make you look younger. Sortir en Pantoufles: up 18 days, 23:05 -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 - which stage3 file for new install?
Yeah, there's a 2005.1 amd_64 universal install. I know, because I just used it to set up 4 servers :) On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: John, As per a thread over the last couple of days I was planningon using the 2005.0 CD that I've used for a number of other machines, but that CD doesn't have any 64-bit stuff on it. If there's a 64-bit install CD then I'll go look for that. Thanks for the info! With best regards, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is an actual one on the 64-bit universal install cd which install cd did you download? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:09, Mark Knecht wrote: Unless I missed it this page doesn't seem to indicate which one to use for an AMD64 processor. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=5 So, is it: stage3-i686-2005.0.tar.bz stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz or is there an actual AMD64 stage file somewhere on the net I should be using? Thanks, Mark -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 - which stage3 file for new install?
well, not sure what stage files, if any that one has on it. I used the universal installer. On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks. I'm buring a copy of the minimal install for AMD64 now. Cheers, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, there's a 2005.1 amd_64 universal install. I know, because I just used it to set up 4 servers :) On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: John, As per a thread over the last couple of days I was planningon using the 2005.0 CD that I've used for a number of other machines, but that CD doesn't have any 64-bit stuff on it. If there's a 64-bit install CD then I'll go look for that. Thanks for the info! With best regards, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is an actual one on the 64-bit universal install cd which install cd did you download? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:09, Mark Knecht wrote: Unless I missed it this page doesn't seem to indicate which one to use for an AMD64 processor. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml? part=1chap=5 So, is it: stage3-i686-2005.0.tar.bz stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz or is there an actual AMD64 stage file somewhere on the net I should be using? Thanks, Mark -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Creating new named colors
Michael Mauch schreef: Holly Bostick wrote: This is more dock stuff. I'm trying to change the colors on those dockapps that allow it. These dockapps that allow it are *supposed* to take hex color codes (#xx1x34), but they don't seem to. They do, however, take named colors (orange, MediumSlateBlue, etc) correctly, but unfortunately, these named colors do not *precisely* match my desktop. I've been using gcolor2 to pick the colors of my desktop, and I just noticed that it also saves 'named' colors. So I thought, can't I just 'pick' a color, name it, and then I could use it like all the other named colors? I suppose I could, if I knew where the heck such information is stored. Perhaps /usr/lib/X11/rgb.txt is it. There's a (masked) ebuild x11-apps/rgb. My xorg.conf has: RgbPath /usr/lib/X11/rgb Alas, /usr/lib/X11/rgb doesn't exist here. I have it, and it looks like the stuff: ! $Xorg: rgb.txt,v 1.3 2000/08/17 19:54:00 cpqbld Exp $ 255 250 250 snow 248 248 255 ghost white 248 248 255 GhostWhite 245 245 245 white smoke 245 245 245 WhiteSmoke 220 220 220 gainsboro 255 250 240 floral white 255 250 240 FloralWhite 253 245 230 old lace 253 245 230 OldLace 250 240 230 linen 250 235 215 antique white The man page of showrgb talks about a /usr/X11R6/lib/X11/rgb file, which doesn't exist here, neither. I don't have rgb installed, and the file I do have looks like it's installed by xorg. Could anybody tell me (or tell me that it can't be done)? Perhaps it's easier to fix the application that fails to take hex color codes? Not bloody likely; I can't code my way out of a paper bag, and I certainly am not prepared to take on WindowMaker dockapps, though I will likely write to the developers, if I can track them down, once I've finished testing whether the PEBKAC or not. But thanks a lot; I've not only learned something, but this looks like it has a fair chance of working, as well. I appreciate it. Holly -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] two(related?) sound problems
Hello everybody,
From the boot console:
* Restoring Mixer Levels
/usr/sbin/alsactl: set_control:994: bad
control.7.value type
No state is present for card UART !!!
Sound still works but about 1/2 an hour after having
started realplayer sound stops without any error that
I can find. Then if I try another player ogg, mpg etc
I get can't open /dev/dsp. Have to reboot in order
to play any audio.
Here's the code:
$amixer
[...]
Simple mixer control 'Surround',0
Capabilities: pvolume pswitch
Playback channels: Front Left - Front Right
Limits: Playback 0 - 31
Front Left: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
Front Right: Playback 0 [0%] [off]
[...]
$cat /etc/asound.state
[...]
}
control.7 {
comment.access 'read write'
comment.type BOOLEAN
comment.count 1
iface MIXER
name 'Surround Playback Switch'
value false
}
[...]
$amixer contents
[...]
numid=7,iface=MIXER,name='Surround Playback Switch'
; type=BOOLEAN,access=rw---,values=2
: values=off,off
[...]
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Re: [gentoo-user] AMD64 - which stage3 file for new install?
Yeah, I decided to go for the Universal install since it has stage files. Seemed that the Minimal didn't. I'd forgotten that. The AMD64 will be nicer to install from. I'm getting 65MB/S DMA on the hard drive whereas the x86 Universal didn't have the right chipset stuff and I was only getting 2.5MB/S. Two problems I've seen with the AMD64 Universal CD so far: 1) Console #2 doesn't go to a console. It stays with the boot up graphics. I have to use Alt-Ctl-F3 to get to a second terminal. 2) The path in the login message telling you how to start links to get the install docs is incorrect. Both pretty minor. Install underway if I can get comfortable with LVM2 Thanks, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: well, not sure what stage files, if any that one has on it. I used the universal installer. On Aug 30, 2005, at 3:15 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: Thanks. I'm buring a copy of the minimal install for AMD64 now. Cheers, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, there's a 2005.1 amd_64 universal install. I know, because I just used it to set up 4 servers :) On Aug 30, 2005, at 2:57 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: John, As per a thread over the last couple of days I was planningon using the 2005.0 CD that I've used for a number of other machines, but that CD doesn't have any 64-bit stuff on it. If there's a 64-bit install CD then I'll go look for that. Thanks for the info! With best regards, Mark On 8/30/05, John Jolet [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: there is an actual one on the 64-bit universal install cd which install cd did you download? On Tuesday 30 August 2005 13:09, Mark Knecht wrote: Unless I missed it this page doesn't seem to indicate which one to use for an AMD64 processor. http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml? part=1chap=5 So, is it: stage3-i686-2005.0.tar.bz stage3-x86-2005.0.tar.bz or is there an actual AMD64 stage file somewhere on the net I should be using? Thanks, Mark -- John Jolet Your On-Demand IT Department 512-762-0729 www.jolet.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
