Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Sonntag, 9. März 2008 schrieb Dale:
 If he uses LVM then he may need it.

No. Only if he also uses baselayout 2! He would need the devicemapper package, 
but NOT the init script that comes with it, because this is written for BL 2.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 09 March 2008, Dale wrote:
 If he uses LVM then he may need it.  You are right on the baselayout
 but this got installed here when I was playing around with LVM.  I
 would hate for him to be using LVM and not have this when he reboots.
  I didn't see any mention of this in the original post.  He may not
 use LVM but if he does. . . .

 Also note, I have not used/installed baselayout to version 2 either
 but I still have this installed and it is needed by something else,
 that I may not need either.  I haven't went that far here.

This thread is interesting, mostly because I think I'm the only poster 
so far that thought to actually read the init script:

=
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ cat /etc/init.d/device-mapper
#!/sbin/runscript
# Copyright 1999-2007 Gentoo Foundation
# Distributed under the terms of the GNU General Public License v2
# 
$Header: 
/var/cvsroot/gentoo-x86/sys-fs/device-mapper/files/device-mapper.rc-1.02.22-r3,v
 
1.5 2008/02/01 12:39:47 flameeyes Exp $

depend() {
if [ -e /lib/librc.so ]; then
# on baselayout-1 this causes
# a dependency loop with checkroot (before *)
after modules
before checkfs fsck
fi
}

start() {
if [ ! -e /lib/librc.so ]; then
eerror The ${SVCNAME} init script is written for 
baselayout-2
eerror Please do not use it with baselayout-1
return 1
fi

start_addon dm
}


/lib/librc.so is not present under baselayout-1. So depend() evaluates 
to a null statement and start() WILL exit without running any code.

All the OP needs do is remove device-mapper from his default runlevel.


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Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Dale

Dirk Heinrichs wrote:

Am Sonntag, 9. März 2008 schrieb Dale:
  

If he uses LVM then he may need it.



No. Only if he also uses baselayout 2! He would need the devicemapper package, 
but NOT the init script that comes with it, because this is written for BL 2.


Bye...

Dirk
  


Now I wonder how I got this package then.  Time to search my logs I guess.

Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sat, 08 Mar 2008 18:26:29 -0600, Dale wrote:

 If he uses LVM then he may need it.  You are right on the baselayout
 but this got installed here when I was playing around with LVM.  I
 would hate for him to be using LVM and not have this when he reboots.
 I didn't see any mention of this in the original post.  He may not use
 LVM but if he does. . . .
 
 Also note, I have not used/installed baselayout to version 2 either but 
 I still have this installed and it is needed by something else, that I 
 may not need either.  I haven't went that far here. 

It seems everyone is getting wound up about nothing here. device-mapper
is used for LVM, RAID, dm-crypt and maybe others. No one needs to
uninstall anything. One file in the whole of the device-mapper package is
an init script for baselayout 2 only. When run under baselayout 1 it does
nothing but output a Don't run me warning. You should not uninstall any
package, remove any file, pass Go or collect $200, just remove the script
from the boot runlevel.

The ebuild does not add the script to the runlevel, so the OP must have
read the elog output about adding it for baselayout 2, misunderstood (or
decided it would be a good idea to add it anyway) and added it to the
boot runlevel. This was a mistake and the solution is simply to reverse
this action by removing it from the runlevel. The has been a lot of
speculation, confusion and misinformation in this thread when all that is
needed it to undo one action.

Yes Alan, I also know what the ebuild does :)


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Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Dale

Neil Bothwick wrote:


It seems everyone is getting wound up about nothing here. device-mapper
is used for LVM, RAID, dm-crypt and maybe others. No one needs to
uninstall anything. One file in the whole of the device-mapper package is
an init script for baselayout 2 only. When run under baselayout 1 it does
nothing but output a Don't run me warning. You should not uninstall any
package, remove any file, pass Go or collect $200, just remove the script
from the boot runlevel.

The ebuild does not add the script to the runlevel, so the OP must have
read the elog output about adding it for baselayout 2, misunderstood (or
decided it would be a good idea to add it anyway) and added it to the
boot runlevel. This was a mistake and the solution is simply to reverse
this action by removing it from the runlevel. The has been a lot of
speculation, confusion and misinformation in this thread when all that is
needed it to undo one action.

Yes Alan, I also know what the ebuild does :)


  



I may have misunderstood part of the problem myself and been unclear in 
what I was posting here.  I was talking about removing the package not 
removing it from the run level.  It seemed to me that removing the 
package may not be a good idea while removing it from a run level may 
not be to bad.  At worst the OP may have to boot a CD or something to 
add it back.


Some of the misunderstanding may be on my part.  I have broke things by 
removing a package before and it is better to be safe than sorry.  
Sometimes I ask before removing things myself just to be sure.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] The device-mapper init script is written for baselayout-2

2008-03-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Sun, 09 Mar 2008 04:46:18 -0500, Dale wrote:

 I may have misunderstood part of the problem myself and been unclear in 
 what I was posting here.  I was talking about removing the package not 
 removing it from the run level.  It seemed to me that removing the 
 package may not be a good idea while removing it from a run level may 
 not be to bad.  At worst the OP may have to boot a CD or something to 
 add it back.

Do not remove the package - emerge -C will warn you about this.

Do remove the script from all runlevels, which is what the error
message said in the first place.


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[gentoo-user] dbus and HAL errors

2008-03-09 Thread Thufir
From the user profile, I ran xhost + to allow connections to the x 
server (is that a correct understanding?).

As root I'm getting HAL errors:

arrakis ~ # 
arrakis ~ # nautilus
Initializing gnome-mount extension

** (nautilus:8513): WARNING **: Cannot connect to system bus: 
org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound : Failed to connect to socket /
var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

** (nautilus:8513): WARNING **: Could not initialize hal context

Shutting down gnome-mount extension

arrakis ~ # 




http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365442page=3

talks about starting the dbus service before HAL?




thanks,

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Re: [gentoo-user] dbus and HAL errors

2008-03-09 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Sunday 09 March 2008, Thufir wrote:
 From the user profile, I ran xhost + to allow connections to the x
 server (is that a correct understanding?).

This is entirely unrelated to dbus and hal. On most modern setups, it 
probably also won't do anything, as the dm probably starts X with 
the '-nolisten tcp' option

 As root I'm getting HAL errors:

 arrakis ~ #
 arrakis ~ # nautilus
 Initializing gnome-mount extension

why are you running gnome as root?

Bad bad bad boy. Report to the principal's office for detention.
This has been hashed to death by many people who really know what they 
are talking about, so I give the executive summary instead:

NEVER EVER RUN X AS ROOT. It's bad enough the bloody thing is suid, but 
there's no way around that so we tolerate it.

 ** (nautilus:8513): WARNING **: Cannot connect to system 
 org.freedesktop.DBus.Error.FileNotFound : Failed to connect to socket
 / var/run/dbus/system_bus_socket: No such file or directory

 ** (nautilus:8513): WARNING **: Could not initialize hal context

 Shutting down gnome-mount extension

 arrakis ~ #

 http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=365442page=3

 talks about starting the dbus service before HAL?

properly configured, dbus *will* start before hald:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/init.d $ cat dbus
...
depend() {
need localmount
after bootmisc
}


[EMAIL PROTECTED] /etc/init.d $ cat hald
...
depend() {
use logger acpid
need dbus
after coldplug dns nscd
}

Do you have dbus and hald properly configured to start in the default 
runlevel?

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[gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
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From: Elyahou ITTAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: 9 mars 2008 13:39
Subject: apache vhost issue...
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]


Hello, I have dificulty to configure vhost in apache... Here some
 files of my configuration

 in /etc/conf.d/apache2:
 APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL -D INFO -D LANGUAGE  -D PHP5 -D USERDIR

 # ls -l /var/www
 total 8
 drwxr-xr-x 4 apache apache 4096 mar  9 02:20 helpermaster.fr
 drwxr-xr-x 6 root   root   4096 mar  8 22:12 localhost

 # cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_vhost1.conf
 VirtualHost *:80
 ServerName helpermaster.fr
 ServerAlias helpermaster.fr
 DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
 Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
   Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
   AllowOverride All
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
 /Directory
 /VirtualHost


 But when I type helpermaster.fr on my browser, i receive the
 www/localhost pages and no the www/helpermaster.fr pages...

I first sent the message to gentoo-web-user list but it seems that
this list is no longer available...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Juul
Elyahou ITTAH schreef:
  # cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_vhost1.conf
  VirtualHost *:80
  ServerName helpermaster.fr
  ServerAlias helpermaster.fr
  DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
  Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
AllowOverride All
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
  /Directory
  /VirtualHost


  But when I type helpermaster.fr on my browser, i receive the
  www/localhost pages and no the www/helpermaster.fr pages...

 I first sent the message to gentoo-web-user list but it seems that
 this list is no longer available...
   

It seems to be configured right. I do notice you are using
helpermaster.fr for your servername and as alias. If type in your
browser www.helpermaster.fr it will use the default vhost cause there is
no vhost configured for www.helpermaster.fr. Maybe that is the problem?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, Juul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 It seems to be configured right. I do notice you are using
 helpermaster.fr for your servername and as alias. If type in your
 browser www.helpermaster.fr it will use the default vhost cause there is
 no vhost configured for www.helpermaster.fr. Maybe that is the problem?

I type on my browser helpermaster.fr and not www.helpermaster.fr...
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[gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Collin Starkweather
To preface the question, I should mention that I'm currently residing  
in China, so communication with the networking guys on this end is a  
bit difficult because the communication algorithm typically begins,  
Step 1: Learn Chinese.


I am having difficulties with getting bumped out of an SSH connection  
from a server in the U.S. with Connection reset by peer maybe 5-10  
seconds after logging in.


It *only* occurs in my apartment; i.e., when I go to a local wifi  
hotspot, I have no difficulties whatsoever.  So I don't think it's  
coming from my end, and I don't think it's coming from the server I'm  
logging in to.


Some details:

1) To ensure that I'm not having problems with keepalives, I  
configured SSHD on the other end very liberally (with some  
impressively fast typing, if I do say so myself).  In sshd_config, I  
have


TCPKeepAlive no
ClientAliveInterval 15
ClientAliveCountMax 12

2) I then set ethereal running.  Just as I got bumped, it indicated

  SourceDestination  Protocol  Info
  (the server)  (my laptop)   TCP  22  1259 [RST, ACK] Seq=5357
   Ack=4037 Win=63856 Len=0

I'm not a networking guy, but I think that means a reset packet is  
being sent, ostensibly from the server.


3) When I get bumped, ssh -vvv gives the following

  debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
  debug3: channel 0: status: The following connections are open:
#0 client-session (t4 r0 i0/0 o0/0 fd 4/5 cfd -1)
  debug3: channel 0: close_fds r 4 w 5 e 6 c -1
  Read from remote host www.bogusdomain.com: Connection reset by peer
  Connection to www.bogusdomain.com closed.
  debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 126 bytes in 17.1 seconds
  debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 7.4
  debug1: Exit status -1

If the reset is not coming from the server or the client (I don't have  
any problems when I'm at a hotspot), where could it be coming from?


Thanks in advance,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Strong Cypher
hi,
did you add your host in the hosts file?

2008/3/9, Elyahou ITTAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/3/9, Juul [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  It seems to be configured right. I do notice you are using
  helpermaster.fr for your servername and as alias. If type in your
  browser www.helpermaster.fr it will use the default vhost cause there is
  no vhost configured for www.helpermaster.fr. Maybe that is the problem?

 I type on my browser helpermaster.fr and not www.helpermaster.fr...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hi,
  did you add your host in the hosts file?

Nope, but I am tryingto connect not from that machine but from another one...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Strong Cypher
yeah of course but apache need to now all ip of all host before
starting. try to add it and restart apache

2008/3/9, Elyahou ITTAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  hi,
   did you add your host in the hosts file?

 Nope, but I am tryingto connect not from that machine but from another
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 yeah of course but apache need to now all ip of all host before
  starting. try to add it and restart apache



  
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New infos... When I connect to helpermaster.fr from the server with
the entry on /etc/hosts for this domain name, the vhost is on, but
from an external machine I have still /www/localhost page...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Norberto Bensa
Elyahou ITTAH wrote:
 New infos... When I connect to helpermaster.fr from the server with
 the entry on /etc/hosts for this domain name, the vhost is on, but
 from an external machine I have still /www/localhost page...

Are you running a proxy?

Does it understand HTTP/1.1?


Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Collin Starkweather

Quoting Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


yeah of course but apache need to now all ip of all host before
starting. try to add it and restart apache

2008/3/9, Elyahou ITTAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hi,
  did you add your host in the hosts file?

Nope, but I am tryingto connect not from that machine but from another
one...


In response to an earlier comment about a redundant ServerName /  
ServerAlias, typically those would look something like


ServerName www.bogusdomain.com
ServerAlias bogusdomain.com *.bogusdomain.com

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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
ok good

could you show the access log with the line when your try to connect to the
server ?

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2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 yeah of course but apache need to now all ip of all host before
  starting. try to add it and restart apache



  
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New infos... When I connect to helpermaster.fr from the server with
the entry on /etc/hosts for this domain name, the vhost is on, but
from an external machine I have still /www/localhost page...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, Norberto Bensa [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

 Are you running a proxy?

  Does it understand HTTP/1.1?


  Regards,
  Norberto

The server don't have proxy, but my actual pc is in a proxyfied
network (squid http) but I think that is'nt the problem... Try to
connect to helpermaster.fr ( localhost output means that the browser
is connected to www/localhost files and salut output is in
www/helpermaster.fr)
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Mick
On Sunday 09 March 2008, Collin Starkweather wrote:
 To preface the question, I should mention that I'm currently residing
 in China, so communication with the networking guys on this end is a
 bit difficult because the communication algorithm typically begins,
 Step 1: Learn Chinese.

I would argue that your Chinese domain is blacklisted due to exhaustive number 
of owned MSWindows boxen and botnets that ping the rest of us without 
respite, from China.  I really wish their step 1 was learn how to protect 
your PC, even if it runs an illegitimate Mickey Mouse OS.  /sarcasm

 I am having difficulties with getting bumped out of an SSH connection
 from a server in the U.S. with Connection reset by peer maybe 5-10
 seconds after logging in.

 It *only* occurs in my apartment; i.e., when I go to a local wifi
 hotspot, I have no difficulties whatsoever.  So I don't think it's
 coming from my end, and I don't think it's coming from the server I'm
 logging in to.

 Some details:

 1) To ensure that I'm not having problems with keepalives, I
 configured SSHD on the other end very liberally (with some
 impressively fast typing, if I do say so myself).  In sshd_config, I
 have

 TCPKeepAlive no
 ClientAliveInterval 15
 ClientAliveCountMax 12

Why don't you leave keepalive On?  I would switch that flag to yes and perhaps 
increase the Interval to 60 seconds or more?

 2) I then set ethereal running.  Just as I got bumped, it indicated

SourceDestination  Protocol  Info
(the server)  (my laptop)   TCP  22  1259 [RST, ACK] Seq=5357
 Ack=4037 Win=63856 Len=0

The packet flag [RST, ACK] indicates that the port is closed.

 I'm not a networking guy, but I think that means a reset packet is
 being sent, ostensibly from the server.

Yep, to indicate that the port has closed.

 3) When I get bumped, ssh -vvv gives the following

debug1: channel 0: free: client-session, nchannels 1
debug3: channel 0: status: The following connections are open:
  #0 client-session (t4 r0 i0/0 o0/0 fd 4/5 cfd -1)
debug3: channel 0: close_fds r 4 w 5 e 6 c -1
Read from remote host www.bogusdomain.com: Connection reset by peer
Connection to www.bogusdomain.com closed.
debug1: Transferred: stdin 0, stdout 0, stderr 126 bytes in 17.1 seconds
debug1: Bytes per second: stdin 0.0, stdout 0.0, stderr 7.4
debug1: Exit status -1

The server closes the connection.

 If the reset is not coming from the server or the client (I don't have
 any problems when I'm at a hotspot), where could it be coming from?

Are you using the same NIC on the laptop?  If yes, then the issue could be 
related to your router configuration., but my money is on your keepalive 
settings.  See if my suggestions above help.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Collin Starkweather

Quoting Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


yeah of course but apache need to now all ip of all host before
starting. try to add it and restart apache

2008/3/9, Elyahou ITTAH [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

2008/3/9, Strong Cypher [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 hi,
  did you add your host in the hosts file?

Nope, but I am tryingto connect not from that machine but from another
one...


Also, what do you get when you

  tail -n 100 /.../logs/access_log | grep helpermaster.fr

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ok good

  could you show the access log with the line when your try to connect to the
  server ?



http://rafb.net/p/DH1lDL67.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Collin Starkweather

Quoting Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

I would argue that your Chinese domain is blacklisted due to   
exhaustive number

of owned MSWindows boxen and botnets that ping the rest of us without
respite, from China.  I really wish their step 1 was learn how to protect
your PC, even if it runs an illegitimate Mickey Mouse OS.  /sarcasm


You're not whistlin' Dixie ... every USB stick I've ever been handed  
in China has a virus on it.



Are you using the same NIC on the laptop?  If yes, then the issue could be
related to your router configuration., but my money is on your keepalive
settings.  See if my suggestions above help.


Thanks.  I'll give it a shot.

-Collin

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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
Could you remove the ServerAlias directive and try again ?

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2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ok good

  could you show the access log with the line when your try to connect to
the
  server ?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you remove the ServerAlias directive and try again ?

Same result...
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
Could you post default vhost configuration ?

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2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you remove the ServerAlias directive and try again ?

Same result...
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
I think of something else,

remove any think like

127.0.0.1   helpmaster.fr

in your host file.

You just need this host have the ip address you contact in host file

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2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you remove the ServerAlias directive and try again ?

Same result...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Andrey Falko
   Are you using the same NIC on the laptop?  If yes, then the issue could be
   related to your router configuration., but my money is on your keepalive
   settings.  See if my suggestions above help.

  Thanks.  I'll give it a shot.

  -Collin

Something to try if the above does not worka long shot if it
works, but you can try setting the server to listen on another port,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you post default vhost configuration ?

in your host file.
You just need this host have the ip address you contact in host file

# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost
91.121.117.202   ns201241.ovh.net
# IPV6 versions of localhost and co
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
127.0.0.1   localhost

# cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf
# Virtual Hosts
#
# If you want to maintain multiple domains/hostnames on your
# machine you can setup VirtualHost containers for them. Most configurations
# use only name-based virtual hosts so the server doesn't need to worry about
# IP addresses. This is indicated by the asterisks in the directives below.
#
# Please see the documentation at
# URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
# for further details before you try to setup virtual hosts.
#
# You may use the command line option '-S' to verify your virtual host
# configuration.

IfDefine DEFAULT_VHOST
# see bug #178966 why this is in here

# Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or
# ports, instead of the default. See also the VirtualHost
# directive.
#
# Change this to Listen on specific IP addresses as shown below to
# prevent Apache from glomming onto all bound IP addresses.
#
#Listen 12.34.56.78:80
Listen 80

# Use name-based virtual hosting.
NameVirtualHost *:80

# When virtual hosts are enabled, the main host defined in the default
# httpd.conf configuration will go away. We redefine it here so that it is
# still available.
#
# If you disable this vhost by removing -D DEFAULT_VHOST from
# /etc/conf.d/apache2, the first defined virtual host elsewhere will be
# the default.
VirtualHost *:80
ServerName www.helpermaster.fr
Include /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
ErrorLog /var/www/localhost/log/error.log
CustomLog /var/www/localhost/log/access.log combined
IfModule mpm_peruser_module
ServerEnvironment apache apache
/IfModule
/VirtualHost

/IfDefine

# vim: ts=4 filetype=apache

# cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
# ServerAdmin: Your address, where problems with the server should be
# e-mailed.  This address appears on some server-generated pages, such
# as error documents.  e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your
# documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but
# symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations.
#
# If you change this to something that isn't under /var/www then suexec
# will no longer work.
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs

# This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
# Possible values for the Options directive are None, All,
# or any combination of:
#   Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks SymLinksifOwnerMatch
ExecCGI MultiViews
#
# Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options All
# doesn't give it to you.
#
# The Options directive is both complicated and important.  Please see
# http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#options
# for more information.
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

# AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in
.htaccess files.
# It can be All, None, or any combination of the keywords:
#   Options FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
AllowOverride All

# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

IfModule alias_module
# Redirect: Allows you to tell clients about documents that used to
# exist in your server's namespace, but do not anymore. The client
# will make a new request for the document at its new location.
# Example:
#   Redirect permanent /foo http://www.example.com/bar

# Alias: Maps web paths into filesystem paths and is used to
# access content that does not live under the DocumentRoot.
# Example:
#   Alias /webpath /full/filesystem/path
#
# If you include a trailing / on /webpath then the server will
# require it to be present in the URL.  You will also likely
# need to provide a Directory section to allow access to
# the filesystem path.

# ScriptAlias: This controls which directories contain server scripts.
# ScriptAliases are essentially the same as Aliases, except that
# documents in the target directory are treated as applications and
# run by the server when requested rather than as documents sent to the
# client.  The same rules about trailing / apply to ScriptAlias
# directives as to Alias.
ScriptAlias /cgi-bin/ /var/www/localhost/cgi-bin/

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
so anyone haven't a idea ?

It's really weird because the configuration seems to be OK but in the
/var/www/localhost/log/access.log file I see:

[09/Mar/2008:19:24:28 +0100] GET / HTTP/1.0 304 -
http://helpermaster.fr/; Mozilla/5.0 (X11; U; Linux i686; fr-FR;
rv:1.8.1.12) Gecko/20080227 Firefox/2.0.0.12
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
Um ...

I see this : 

VirtualHost *:80
ServerName www.helpermaster.fr
Include /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
ErrorLog /var/www/localhost/log/error.log CustomLog
/var/www/localhost/log/access.log combined
IfModule mpm_peruser_module
ServerEnvironment apache apache
/IfModule
/VirtualHost


ServerName = www.helpermaster.fr !!!
For the default ???
No !

change to localhost

for your helpermaster.fr file, don't forget the documentroot directive






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Envoyé : dimanche 9 mars 2008 18:47
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Objet : Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Could you post default vhost configuration ?

in your host file.
You just need this host have the ip address you contact in host file

# cat /etc/hosts
127.0.0.1   localhost
91.121.117.202   ns201241.ovh.net
# IPV6 versions of localhost and co
::1 ip6-localhost ip6-loopback
fe00::0 ip6-localnet
ff00::0 ip6-mcastprefix
ff02::1 ip6-allnodes
ff02::2 ip6-allrouters
ff02::3 ip6-allhosts
127.0.0.1   localhost

# cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/00_default_vhost.conf
# Virtual Hosts
#
# If you want to maintain multiple domains/hostnames on your
# machine you can setup VirtualHost containers for them. Most configurations
# use only name-based virtual hosts so the server doesn't need to worry
about
# IP addresses. This is indicated by the asterisks in the directives below.
#
# Please see the documentation at
# URL:http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/vhosts/
# for further details before you try to setup virtual hosts.
#
# You may use the command line option '-S' to verify your virtual host
# configuration.

IfDefine DEFAULT_VHOST
# see bug #178966 why this is in here

# Listen: Allows you to bind Apache to specific IP addresses and/or
# ports, instead of the default. See also the VirtualHost
# directive.
#
# Change this to Listen on specific IP addresses as shown below to
# prevent Apache from glomming onto all bound IP addresses.
#
#Listen 12.34.56.78:80
Listen 80

# Use name-based virtual hosting.
NameVirtualHost *:80

# When virtual hosts are enabled, the main host defined in the default
# httpd.conf configuration will go away. We redefine it here so that it is
# still available.
#
# If you disable this vhost by removing -D DEFAULT_VHOST from
# /etc/conf.d/apache2, the first defined virtual host elsewhere will be
# the default.
VirtualHost *:80
ServerName www.helpermaster.fr
Include /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
ErrorLog /var/www/localhost/log/error.log
CustomLog /var/www/localhost/log/access.log combined
IfModule mpm_peruser_module
ServerEnvironment apache apache
/IfModule
/VirtualHost

/IfDefine

# vim: ts=4 filetype=apache

# cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/default_vhost.include
# ServerAdmin: Your address, where problems with the server should be
# e-mailed.  This address appears on some server-generated pages, such
# as error documents.  e.g. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ServerAdmin [EMAIL PROTECTED]

# DocumentRoot: The directory out of which you will serve your
# documents. By default, all requests are taken from this directory, but
# symbolic links and aliases may be used to point to other locations.
#
# If you change this to something that isn't under /var/www then suexec
# will no longer work.
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs

# This should be changed to whatever you set DocumentRoot to.
Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
# Possible values for the Options directive are None, All,
# or any combination of:
#   Indexes Includes FollowSymLinks SymLinksifOwnerMatch
ExecCGI MultiViews
#
# Note that MultiViews must be named *explicitly* --- Options
All
# doesn't give it to you.
#
# The Options directive is both complicated and important.  Please
see
# http://httpd.apache.org/docs/2.2/mod/core.html#options
# for more information.
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks

# AllowOverride controls what directives may be placed in
.htaccess files.
# It can be All, None, or any combination of the keywords:
#   Options FileInfo AuthConfig Limit
AllowOverride All

# Controls who can get stuff from this server.
Order allow,deny
Allow from all
/Directory

IfModule alias_module
# Redirect: Allows you to tell clients about documents that used to
# exist in your server's namespace, but do not anymore. The client
# will make a new request for the document at its new location.
# Example:
#   Redirect permanent /foo http://www.example.com/bar

# Alias: Maps web paths into filesystem paths and is used to
# access content that does not live under the DocumentRoot.
# Example:
#   Alias /webpath /full/filesystem/path
#
 

Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 09 March 2008 11:52:16 Elyahou ITTAH wrote:
  in /etc/conf.d/apache2:
  APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL -D INFO -D LANGUAGE  -D PHP5 -D
 USERDIR

  # cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_vhost1.conf
  VirtualHost *:80

  But when I type helpermaster.fr on my browser, i receive the
  www/localhost pages and no the www/helpermaster.fr pages...

Your vhost isn't specific enough to not be matched by the vhost defined by 
DEFAULT_VHOST (which is _default_:80).

Either turn off DEFAULT_VHOST and add Listen *:80 somewhere before your 
virtualhost, or define it with an IP address.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sunday 09 March 2008 11:52:16 Elyahou ITTAH wrote:
in /etc/conf.d/apache2:
APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL -D INFO -D LANGUAGE  -D PHP5 -D
   USERDIR


   # cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_vhost1.conf
VirtualHost *:80


   But when I type helpermaster.fr on my browser, i receive the
www/localhost pages and no the www/helpermaster.fr pages...


 Your vhost isn't specific enough to not be matched by the vhost defined by
  DEFAULT_VHOST (which is _default_:80).

  Either turn off DEFAULT_VHOST and add Listen *:80 somewhere before your
  virtualhost, or define it with an IP address.

I tried that but i have now
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

when i trie to connect...
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
ok

in 00_default you need somethink like this

VirtualHost __default__:80
ServerName localhost
DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost
Directory /var/www/localhost
Order Allow, Deny
Allow from all
/Directory
/VirtualHost

and in 01_helpermaster
VirtualHost *:80
ServerName helpermaster.fr
ServerAlias *.helpermaster.fr
DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr
Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr
Order Allow, Deny
Allow from all
/Directory
/VirtualHost

It should work !

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De : Elyahou ITTAH [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Envoyé : dimanche 9 mars 2008 20:15
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Objet : Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008/3/9, Mike Williams [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 On Sunday 09 March 2008 11:52:16 Elyahou ITTAH wrote:
in /etc/conf.d/apache2:
APACHE2_OPTS=-D DEFAULT_VHOST -D SSL -D INFO -D LANGUAGE  -D PHP5 -D
   USERDIR


   # cat /etc/apache2/vhosts.d/01_vhost1.conf
VirtualHost *:80


   But when I type helpermaster.fr on my browser, i receive the
www/localhost pages and no the www/helpermaster.fr pages...


 Your vhost isn't specific enough to not be matched by the vhost defined by
  DEFAULT_VHOST (which is _default_:80).

  Either turn off DEFAULT_VHOST and add Listen *:80 somewhere before your
  virtualhost, or define it with an IP address.

I tried that but i have now
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.

when i trie to connect...
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ok

  in 00_default you need somethink like this

  VirtualHost __default__:80
 ServerName localhost
 DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost
 Directory /var/www/localhost
 Order Allow, Deny

 Allow from all
 /Directory
  /VirtualHost


 and in 01_helpermaster

 VirtualHost *:80
 ServerName helpermaster.fr
 ServerAlias *.helpermaster.fr
 DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr

 Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr

 Order Allow, Deny

 Allow from all
 /Directory
  /VirtualHost


 It should work !


Thanks,

now i have that error:

[Sun Mar 09 20:34:01 2008] [error] (EAI 2)Name or service not known:
Could not resolve host name __default__ -- ignoring!
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
perhaps I miss the s

__defaults__

try this or replace by *





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2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 ok

  in 00_default you need somethink like this

  VirtualHost __default__:80
 ServerName localhost
 DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost
 Directory /var/www/localhost
 Order Allow, Deny

 Allow from all
 /Directory
  /VirtualHost


 and in 01_helpermaster

 VirtualHost *:80
 ServerName helpermaster.fr
 ServerAlias *.helpermaster.fr
 DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr

 Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr

 Order Allow, Deny

 Allow from all
 /Directory
  /VirtualHost


 It should work !


Thanks,

now i have that error:

[Sun Mar 09 20:34:01 2008] [error] (EAI 2)Name or service not known:
Could not resolve host name __default__ -- ignoring!
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Elyahou ITTAH
2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 perhaps I miss the s

  __defaults__

  try this or replace by *





I really don't understant what's happen...

i stille have :
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Apache Server at 91.121.117.202 Port 80

I have now

01_vhost.conf


Listen 80
NameVirtualHost *:80
VirtualHost *:80
   ServerName localhost
   DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs
   Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   /Directory
/VirtualHost

VirtualHost *:80
   ServerName helpermaster.fr
   ServerAlias *.helpermaster.fr
   DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
   Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   /Directory
/VirtualHost

on my 01_vhost.conf and no default vhost it should work... but no... :(
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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
do you have remove the 00_vhost file ?

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Objet : Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008/3/9, cypherstrong [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 perhaps I miss the s

  __defaults__

  try this or replace by *





I really don't understant what's happen...

i stille have :
Forbidden

You don't have permission to access / on this server.
Apache Server at 91.121.117.202 Port 80

I have now

01_vhost.conf


Listen 80
NameVirtualHost *:80
VirtualHost *:80
   ServerName localhost
   DocumentRoot /var/www/localhost/htdocs
   Directory /var/www/localhost/htdocs
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   /Directory
/VirtualHost

VirtualHost *:80
   ServerName helpermaster.fr
   ServerAlias *.helpermaster.fr
   DocumentRoot /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
   Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr/htdocs
Options Indexes FollowSymLinks
   Order allow,deny
   Allow from all
   /Directory
/VirtualHost

on my 01_vhost.conf and no default vhost it should work... but no... :(
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Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread Mike Williams
On Sunday 09 March 2008 19:23:49 cypherstrong wrote:
 Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr
 Order Allow, Deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory

This is all that's necessary, although I'd drop it to just /var/www.
Put it before any vhosts, it does not need to be defined inside a one.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

2008-03-09 Thread cypherstrong
ok it seems to be an ovh issues

here a solus : http://forum.ovh.com/showthread.php?t=2441

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Objet : Re: [gentoo-user] Fwd: apache vhost issue...

On Sunday 09 March 2008 19:23:49 cypherstrong wrote:
 Directory /var/www/helpermaster.fr
 Order Allow, Deny
 Allow from all
 /Directory

This is all that's necessary, although I'd drop it to just /var/www.
Put it before any vhosts, it does not need to be defined inside a one.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Synaptics touchpad mistaken(?) for Logitech Wheel Mouse

2008-03-09 Thread Iain Buchanan

On Fri, 2008-03-07 at 17:13 +0100, Johan Blåbäck wrote:

   I suspect you need these options in your kernel:

[snip]

 Thanks for the reply, but I got all of those:

[snip]

hm.  Do you have INPUT_DEVICES=... synaptics in /etc/make.conf?

I don't think your /proc/bus/input/devices looks quite right - are you
sure this isn't a pointer stick or something?  What's the complete file
look like?

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I told my kids, Someday, you'll have kids of your own.  One of them said,
So will you.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Mark Shields
On Sun, Mar 9, 2008 at 12:03 PM, Andrey Falko [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Are you using the same NIC on the laptop?  If yes, then the issue
 could be
related to your router configuration., but my money is on your
 keepalive
settings.  See if my suggestions above help.
 
   Thanks.  I'll give it a shot.
 
   -Collin

 Something to try if the above does not worka long shot if it
 works, but you can try setting the server to listen on another port,
 like .
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Are you thinking his ISP is doing port-based connection filtering?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:16:09 -0400
Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Are you thinking his ISP is doing port-based connection filtering?

What kind of connection filtering allows a connection to go through for
5 seconds, then resets it?
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[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo Brainstorm !

2008-03-09 Thread Dan Farrell
On Thu, 06 Mar 2008 20:32:21 -0500
Chris Brennan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 One other thing that may be good, is someone to donate resources if
 need be to get the project off the ground. Us doing all the technical
 footwork, means very little if there is no practical application in
 place, something tangible to look at and evaluate.
 
 If we're going to commit to this, then we may as well go as far as we
 can with it, till it looks so impressive and awe-inspiring that we
 can't help but be flocked to, like gentoo-wiki and the forums. When I
 help new users into the world of Linux and Gentoo, I tell them, there
 are three things you should book mark, and visit frequently,
 gentoo.com, gentoo-wiki.com and forums.gentoo.org, why shouldn't this
 be any different.
 

Friends, 

I write custom database-driven websites like this one professionally,
and there is absolutely no reason that, if I had just a little help
coding the thing, we couldn't turn something like this into a reality.  

If anyone is interested in, and has the resources necessary to, make
this happen, please speak up.  The project might to very well if we had
someone to do a little web design, someone to write a little PHP, and
whoever else wanted to help, besides myself.  

Furthermore, it's possible we can simply have the code that runs on
ubuntu's site.  I have sent a mail[1] to the webmasters of ubuntu.com,
hoping it will be directed to the proper feedback channels.  I know
hosting won't be a problem; I'm sure the gentoo web people would stick
it on a box somewhere, or, failing that, give us a subdomain to work
with on our own servers.  

I think, personally, that we should leave bugs.gentoo.org alone on this
one.  The devs are likely to think 'wouldn't
it be nice if we had this neat web page ... ' doesn't count as a
feature enhancement, but rather a _feature_.  To that end, I started a 
gentoo forums post[2] about the topic instead.  

Make sure to speak up if you want to help!  

Thanks for reading.  

[1] email to [EMAIL PROTECTED],canonical}.com
 My attention has recently been drawn to brainstorm.ubuntu.com.  What
 an excellent way to 'socialize' user ideas and feedback!  The site
 got a bit of attention on the gentoo-users mailing list, and the
 general feeling was that such a site would be greatly beneficial to
 the community here in gentoo as well.  
 
 Would you be amenable to the idea of granting us permission to use the
 site engine?  
 
 Thank you for your time, 
 
   Dan Farrell 

[2]
http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-673136.html
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Re: [gentoo-user] Bizarre SSH connection reset

2008-03-09 Thread Collin Starkweather

Quoting Dan Farrell [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


On Sun, 9 Mar 2008 20:16:09 -0400
Mark Shields [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


Are you thinking his ISP is doing port-based connection filtering?


What kind of connection filtering allows a connection to go through for
5 seconds, then resets it?


I've been wondering the same thing.  Typically, one wouldn't even  
expect to get through in the first place if there were filtering.


The Great Firewall of China works by immediately sending hangup  
packets to both sides, spoofing they're coming from the appropriate  
party.  But typically that happens the instant you try to establish a  
connection.  Moreover, because I can get in from the local hotspot, I  
wouldn't imagine it's a Great Firewall issue.


Some ISPs and the university campus (I believe I'm going through the  
local university's ISP) do their own filtering, but I can't imagine  
why a 5-second rule would be implemented.


-Collin

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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums Crashed

2008-03-09 Thread Dan Farrell
On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:04:22 -0600
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  It is suposed to be here soon, I guess anyway.
 
 Dale

you've been saying that for so long now.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo Forums Crashed

2008-03-09 Thread Dale

Dan Farrell wrote:

On Sat, 12 Jan 2008 19:04:22 -0600
Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

  

 It is suposed to be here soon, I guess anyway.

Dale



you've been saying that for so long now.
  



Yep, want to hear it again.  DSL is still NOT here.:-(   The only 
good thing to happen lately is me finding a girlfriend.  Sort of takes 
my mind off DSL a little.   ;-)  

I'm not even holding my breath now.  I know the box is up there and 
there is little wire splices all over the ground but no DSL yet.  :-@   
I'm not sure how to speed them up either.


Dale

:-)  :-)  :-) 
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