Re: [gentoo-user] Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:17:07 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I've no idea how it broke, but after an emerge --sync, a kernel (gentoo-sources) update was there. After I compiled the kernel, I did the usual make modules_install make install. I edited grub.conf only to the point of

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-17 Thread Roy Wright
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I've no idea how it broke, but after an emerge --sync, a kernel (gentoo-sources) update was there. After I compiled the kernel, I did the usual make modules_install make install. I edited grub.conf only to the point of changing the booted kernel to the new one (just

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office: PDF import

2009-02-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tue, February 17, 2009 7:26 am, Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone succeeded in importing a PDF to Open Office Impress or Draw ? I've added the add-on from from under /usr/... (as it says), but when I try to 'insert file' using a 1-page PDF , it says 'File could not be opened' (after some CPU

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office: PDF import

2009-02-17 Thread Justin
Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tue, February 17, 2009 7:26 am, Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone succeeded in importing a PDF to Open Office Impress or Draw ? I've added the add-on from from under /usr/... (as it says), but when I try to 'insert file' using a 1-page PDF , it says 'File could not be

Re: [gentoo-user] Using multiple languages in XFCE (and the console)

2009-02-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Sun, February 15, 2009 12:10 am, list-catcher wrote: I'm taking an online Spanish course which requires the use of accented vowels along with the ñ character. Right now I'm forced to cut and paste these letters when I need them but that's slowly driving me insane. Is there a way I can

[gentoo-user] net-tools vs iproute2

2009-02-17 Thread Stroller
Hi there, Could I possibly draw on the combined wisdom of the list to explain to me the difference between net-tools iproute2, please? I have always used ifconfig for checking a computer's IP addresses. And, less frequently (since one normally sets such parameters in /etc/ conf.d/net or

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office: PDF import

2009-02-17 Thread Sebastián Magrí
El mar, 17-02-2009 a las 10:22 +0100, Justin escribió: Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tue, February 17, 2009 7:26 am, Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone succeeded in importing a PDF to Open Office Impress or Draw ? I've added the add-on from from under /usr/... (as it says), but when I try to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fake MAC Address Bungling Wireless

2009-02-17 Thread Joost Roeleveld
On Tue, February 17, 2009 6:19 am, daid kahl wrote: 2009/2/14 daid kahl daid...@gmail.com snip I'm a little embarassed that the solution was so easy and obvious and I bothered everyone. But I did learn some things in the process, so I appreciate the feedback a lot. So, as I eventually move

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fake MAC Address Bungling Wireless

2009-02-17 Thread Stroller
On 17 Feb 2009, at 11:00, Joost Roeleveld wrote: On Tue, February 17, 2009 6:19 am, daid kahl wrote: ... There is no such thing as a stupid question, there are only stupid answers. And as you said, you learned some things in the process and so did other people on this list. +1 Thank you

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread daid kahl
2009/2/16 Guillermo Garron guillermo.fed...@gmail.com Hi, I am new to Gentoo, and yes I am also new to compiling kernels. I recently got in to configuring my own kernel (I'm not sure if you're at this level or using other people's .config files); it's a bit lazy and maybe risky not to

Re: [gentoo-user] net-tools vs iproute2

2009-02-17 Thread Mike Kazantsev
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 10:37:35 + Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: Hi there, Could I possibly draw on the combined wisdom of the list to explain to me the difference between net-tools iproute2, please? I'd quote wikipedia article, since it really explains what iproute2 is

[gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Andrei Hanganu
helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans ... every single one of them has at least one drawback. In short words, i am

Re: [gentoo-user] Mailing Lists

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 11:35 AM, Hilco Wijbenga hilco.wijbe...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/16 Dan Cowsill danthe...@gmail.com: On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 7:05 AM, Kaushal Shriyan kaushalshri...@gmail.com wrote: Hi is there a mailing lists to discuss about perl or python or bash scripting language

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Dan Cowsill
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:05 AM, Andrei Hanganu ahang...@bitdefender.com wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Andrei Hanganu
you are perfectly right, but as a wise man said: don't reinvent the wheel,that's why i'm asking this group 1st. I'm positive i'm not the first person to meet these issues and if it just happened that i missed a great editor out there i hope other people might hold the answer for this one. If

[gentoo-user] Re: Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-17 Thread James
Kevin O'Gorman kogorman at gmail.com writes: But this much I know: The permissions on the failing (python) script are the same. So are the owner and group. The python script runs fine from the command-line, even as an other user. Hello Kevin, 2 things. Have your run 'python-updater'

[gentoo-user] Mask package from specific overlay?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
Hi, In some cases, the same version of the same package exists in more than one overlay (or the main portage tree + overlay). Is there a way to mask a package from a specific overlay only? Thanks, Paul

[gentoo-user] wicd start failed

2009-02-17 Thread Chuanwen Wu
Hi, Several day ago, someone in this list recommended wicd to configure the net interface. And I tried it but failed. # wicd Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 45, in module import gobject ImportError: No module named gobject # wicd-client Traceback

Re: [gentoo-user] Mask package from specific overlay?

2009-02-17 Thread Justin
Paul Hartman schrieb: Hi, In some cases, the same version of the same package exists in more than one overlay (or the main portage tree + overlay). Is there a way to mask a package from a specific overlay only? Thanks, Paul NO but I found this:

Re: [gentoo-user] wicd start failed

2009-02-17 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 23:51:39 +0800, Chuanwen Wu wrote: # wicd Traceback (most recent call last): File /usr/lib/wicd/wicd-daemon.py, line 45, in module import gobject ImportError: No module named gobject Do you have pygobject installed? -- Neil Bothwick If you think that there is

Re: [gentoo-user] Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-17 Thread Naga
On Monday 16 February 2009 00:59:41 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've got a low-use CGI script on my web server. Aside from web crawlers, I usually see at most a few hits a week from people who share my hobby. I just found out it's been down for an unknown period of time because my Apache no

[gentoo-user] Re: Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-17 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 06:17:07 +0200, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: I've no idea how it broke, but after an emerge --sync, a kernel (gentoo-sources) update was there. After I compiled the kernel, I did the usual make modules_install make install. I edited grub.conf only to

Re: [gentoo-user] Grub broke out of the blue

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 05:44:07 schrieb Stroller: To avoid automounting and autoinstalling with /boot, just export the DONT_MOUNT_BOOT variable. There's still a bug open to remove this stupid behaviour. BTW: Once it's in your MBR, you can just paludis --uninstall grub (or whatever is

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Hung Dang
Andrei Hanganu wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans ... every single one of them has at least one drawback.

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Uys
I have been searching for an open source c++ IDE for some time now. I have not yet found a single IDE that is a perfect fit. When you develop something small, an editor like vim/kate/emacs can be sufficient, but when you work with larger projects created by other people, things become a litte

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-02-17 Thread Grant
It's up the application to decide how to use prefix variable. Most applications are respecting it. Up to now, I didn't find one that doesn't. And if so, it'll receive a bug report right away. But you make it sound like it's impossible to not respect it, which is not true. Well, if you

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Installing outside of Portage cruft removal

2009-02-17 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 17. Februar 2009 19:22:31 schrieb Grant: Is this the right thing to do? $ ./configure --prefix=/usr/local make # make install Yes. However, the better way is to follow Alex' proposal. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:09 AM, Andrei Hanganu ahang...@bitdefender.com wrote: you are perfectly right, but as a wise man said: don't reinvent the wheel,that's why i'm asking this group 1st. I'm positive i'm not the first person to meet these issues and if it just happened that i missed a

[gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
I noticed that the terminal program I've used for years (aterm) recently stopped working with the compose key (for generating accented or foreign characters, for example). The compose key still works fine in xjed, emacs, rxvt, mrxvt, xterm, and dozens of GTK and Qt based apps. But, it doesn't

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: I noticed that the terminal program I've used for years (aterm) recently stopped working with the compose key (for generating accented or foreign characters, for example). The compose key still works fine in xjed, emacs,

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 17 Februar 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: I noticed that the terminal program I've used for years (aterm) recently stopped working with the compose key (for generating accented or foreign characters, for example).

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: The compose key still works fine in xjed, emacs, rxvt, mrxvt, xterm, and dozens of GTK and Qt based apps. But, it doesn't work in aterm or urxvt. [...]

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Tuesday 17 February 2009 21:53:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I've never owned a keyboard with a Compose key, actually I had never even heard of it. Wikipedia has some info about how you might go about setting it up. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key Thanks, Paul of

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 17 Februar 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Tuesday 17 February 2009 21:53:38 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: I've never owned a keyboard with a Compose key, actually I had never even heard of it. Wikipedia has some info about how you might go about setting it up.

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Andreas Niederl
Hi, Andrei Hanganu wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans ... every single one of them has at least one

Re: [gentoo-user] Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:53 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: On Dienstag 17 Februar 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: I noticed that the terminal program I've used for years (aterm) recently stopped

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: The compose key still works fine in xjed, emacs, rxvt, mrxvt, xterm, and dozens of GTK

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: There is a US-International layout that makes the right-alt behave like Alt Gr, and allowing easier entry for non-English (mostly Spanish) characters. I don't know if US-International keyboards actually exists or if it's just a

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 1:41 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: The compose key still

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-17, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: It looks like the deadkeys problem was a known bug and should have been fixed in 1.0.1-r2 (there is aterm-1.0.1-deadkeys.patch in the portage tree). What version did you try? Great! Not sure why I didn't find that when I was Googling

[gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Beau Henderson
G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything out of ordinary in dmesg ( asside from an non issue with legacy

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread podge
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not seeing anything

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Beau Henderson
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 8:56 AM, po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 09:20:22 Beau Henderson wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:24 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: What a compose key does is temporarily make the _next_ key struck act like a dead key. To enter ô, you strike compose, ^, o. Hitting compose makes the ^ key temporarily into a dead key. It seems like a sensible way of

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:35 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 2:00 PM, Grant Edwards gra...@visi.com wrote: So how do you enter accented or non-latin characters or ligatures or the like? I don't.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Dienstag 17 Februar 2009, Grant Edwards wrote: On 2009-02-17, Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote: There is a US-International layout that makes the right-alt behave like Alt Gr, and allowing easier entry for non-English (mostly Spanish) characters. I don't know if

Re: [gentoo-user] Eeek: Apache2 lost it's CGI ability

2009-02-17 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 9:10 AM, Naga nagat...@gmail.com wrote: On Monday 16 February 2009 00:59:41 Kevin O'Gorman wrote: I've got a low-use CGI script on my web server. Aside from web crawlers, I usually see at most a few hits a week from people who share my hobby. I just found out it's

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread Guillermo Garron
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 11:37 AM, daid kahl daid...@gmail.com wrote: 2009/2/16 Guillermo Garron guillermo.fed...@gmail.com Hi, I am new to Gentoo, and yes I am also new to compiling kernels. I recently got in to configuring my own kernel (I'm not sure if you're at this level or using

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread Guillermo Garron
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:36 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Sonntag, 15. Februar 2009 22:52:42 schrieb Guillermo Garron: sudo lspci -v | grep Ether 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DC Gigabit Network Connection (rev 02) Where did I write |grep

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread Guillermo Garron
On Mon, Feb 16, 2009 at 5:40 PM, Dirk Heinrichs dirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Montag, 16. Februar 2009 02:17:36 schrieb Stroller: System Rescue CD uses a kernel of about the same vintage as the one you're trying to upgrade to. I suggest you boot with it see if your NIC works. If so,

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Francisco Ares
That's a legacy behavior got from old typewriter machines in which the accents did not move the carriage as normal characters did, just printing the accent (that had to be high enough for upper case letters) and waiting for the accented letter to do the move. As far as I know, in KDE you may

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread Guillermo Garron
Hi, I am top posting because it is solved. I want to help you all for your help, I am not sure about the problem but here are some hints, you will realize what it was. As I said before, I used this info for the new configuration. 00:19.0 Ethernet controller: Intel Corporation 82566DC Gigabit

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread David Relson
On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:05:08 + Andrei Hanganu wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different modes/anjuta/kdevelop/codeblocks/eclipse/netbeans ... every single one

[gentoo-user] Re: Terminals that work with compose key?

2009-02-17 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2009-02-18, Volker Armin Hemmann volkerar...@googlemail.com wrote: A dead key and a compose key are related, but not quite the same thing. A dead key is one that when struck doesn't generate a letter but instead modifies the letter that's generated by the next keystroke. Unlike a modifier

Re: [gentoo-user] perfect IDE

2009-02-17 Thread Sebastián Magrí
El mar, 17-02-2009 a las 20:51 -0500, David Relson escribió: On Tue, 17 Feb 2009 16:05:08 + Andrei Hanganu wrote: helo group, i've been trying the past 2-3 years to find the most usable and nice ide for c/c++ code writing. I've been through vim/vim + plugins/emacs + different

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Beau Henderson
Fearing I might have stripped out something I shouldn't have in my .config , loaded up a defconfig and selected my appropriate options. This has the same effect. I've also tryed the ~ kernel to no avail. This has got me stumped. On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 9:26 AM, Beau Henderson

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Kenneth Prugh
On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:29 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: [snip] Anything suspicious under `ps aux` ? signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Beau Henderson
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Kenneth Prugh ken69...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, 18 Feb 2009 13:43:29 +1000 Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: [snip] Anything suspicious under `ps aux` ? Absolutely nothing ( out of ordinary ) :/ -- Beau Dylan Henderson No human being should be

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use. Right after boot up it settles at 1.00 when I do nothing. I'm not

Re: [gentoo-user] Open Office: PDF import

2009-02-17 Thread Philip Webb
090217 Sebastián Magrí wrote: On Tue, February 17, 2009 7:26 am, Philip Webb wrote: Has anyone succeeded in importing a PDF to Open Office Impress or Draw ? I've added the add-on from from under /usr/... (as it says), but when I try to 'insert file' using a 1-page PDF , it says 'File could

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Shawn Haggett
On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my new Toshiba A300 Satelite to idle at a load of 1.00 when not in use.

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
On Mittwoch 18 Februar 2009, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Shawn Haggett po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was

Re: [gentoo-user] Constant Load 1.00+ on new Toshiba laptop

2009-02-17 Thread Paul Hartman
On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 12:13 AM, Shawn Haggett po...@podgeweb.com wrote: On Wednesday 18 February 2009 16:24:45 Paul Hartman wrote: On Tue, Feb 17, 2009 at 4:50 PM, Beau Henderson b...@thehenderson.com wrote: G'day, I was wondering if anyone might have any idea's as to what is causing my

Re: [gentoo-user] NIC not detected after Kernel upgrade

2009-02-17 Thread Dale
daid kahl wrote: Also, you should avoid using oldconfig except for really minor kernel upgrades. I know this is mentioned in documentation elsewhere, but just a useful reminder. ~daid This has been discussed on this list before. Running make oldconfig works fine. I, and a lot of others,