Re: [gentoo-user] coexisting GCC versions
Am Sonntag 28 Juni 2009 01:31:04 schrieb Volker Armin Hemmann: If you switch default compiler emerge -s world has to be done. That should be -e instead, I guess? But no, it doesn't need to be done. The only case we had were it was needed was the switch from 3.4.x to 4.x, because of C++ ABI changes. Never did it again since then. Bye... Dirk signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. Where can I change thsi behaviour and what did I wrong in migrating from tetex? Thank you very much for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Kind regards, Meino Cramer I have moved from Tetex to Texlive without any problem. What kind of problem do you have? Regards, Hung
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Am Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:30:58 +0200 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. What application handles them as LaTeX? -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] coexisting GCC versions
On Sunday 28 June 2009 05:47:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 28 Juni 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Sonntag 28 Juni 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Or keep 4.3 as default, I don't think you could run into problems. he will over time. If you switch default compiler emerge -s world has to be done. According to Alan McKinnon's (and my own experience), this is not necessary, unless there are ABI changes. But there were none between 4.1 and 4.3. http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg83724.html Wonko you don't have to compile between 4.2.0 and 4.2.1 - sure. But with 4.2 to 4.3 I only got a stable system after compiling everything with the same compiler. So whatever Alan says - I know how borked my box was with half of the libs compiled by one compiler and the rest by the other. That's interesting. I run ~amd64 here and update almost daily - so I got practically every gcc version that hit the tree since 3.3 at some stage. And I never had the problem you describe. It's likely that you have a set of libs that indeed *are* sensitive to different gcc versions, and I'm not using those libs (so I don't get the problems). I wonder if it would be worth the effort to investigate this further and isolate problem packages. It seems that only Gentoo (and derivs) have this problem - binary distros rebuild everything from scratch with each new releases (equivalent to emerge -e world) so they tend to never run into these issues. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Hung Dang hungp...@gmail.com [09-06-28 10:27]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. Where can I change thsi behaviour and what did I wrong in migrating from tetex? Thank you very much for your help in advance! Have a nice weekend! Kind regards, Meino Cramer I have moved from Tetex to Texlive without any problem. What kind of problem do you have? Regards, Hung Hi Hung, may I cite myself :;) All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. Regards, Meino -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Sebastian Günther sam...@guenther-roetgen.de [09-06-28 10:32]: Am Sun, 28 Jun 2009 06:30:58 +0200 schrieb meino.cra...@gmx.de: Hi, after removing tetex and installing texlive-2008 by following his guide http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texlive-migration-guide.xml I run into a mysterious problem: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. What application handles them as LaTeX? -- Religion ist das Opium des Volkes. | _ ASCII ribbon campaign Karl Marx | ( ) against HTML e-mail s...@sti@N GÜNTHER | X against M$ attachments mailto:sam...@guenther-roetgen.de | / \ www.asciiribbon.org the /usr/bin/tex executable -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] coexisting GCC versions
On Sonntag 28 Juni 2009, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 05:47:23 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Sonntag 28 Juni 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Volker Armin Hemmann writes: On Sonntag 28 Juni 2009, Alex Schuster wrote: Or keep 4.3 as default, I don't think you could run into problems. he will over time. If you switch default compiler emerge -s world has to be done. According to Alan McKinnon's (and my own experience), this is not necessary, unless there are ABI changes. But there were none between 4.1 and 4.3. http://www.mail-archive.com/gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org/msg83724.html Wonko you don't have to compile between 4.2.0 and 4.2.1 - sure. But with 4.2 to 4.3 I only got a stable system after compiling everything with the same compiler. So whatever Alan says - I know how borked my box was with half of the libs compiled by one compiler and the rest by the other. That's interesting. I run ~amd64 here and update almost daily - so I got practically every gcc version that hit the tree since 3.3 at some stage. And I never had the problem you describe. yeah, me too ;) It's likely that you have a set of libs that indeed *are* sensitive to different gcc versions, and I'm not using those libs (so I don't get the problems). probably, yes. I wonder if it would be worth the effort to investigate this further and isolate problem packages. I don't really think so. emerge -e system or emerge -e world aren't such hard to type - and you can do it in the background. Just open all apps you plan to use in the next couple of hours ;)
Re: [gentoo-user] kernel cross compilation
Dirk Heinrichs a écrit : Am Samstag 27 Juni 2009 19:33:48 schrieb David Relson: My workstation is an AMD64 and I want to build a 486 kernel. I've tried oldconfig, menuconfig, and xconfig and they all change the .config from X86_32 to X86_64. How do I stop this behavior? make CROSS_COMPILE=i686-pc-linux-gnu- ARCH=i386 ... Try also linux32 command from sys-apps/util-linux . HTH... Dirk -- Xavier Parizet YaGB : http://gentooist.com GPG :DC81 6FEE 6EBE FCE4 1C18 202F E575 4A5D 036D 1408 signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] coexisting GCC versions
Hello again, Roger Mason rma...@mun.ca writes: I need gcc 4.3 to compile a specific application. I am hoping that I can install gcc 4.3 alongside 4.1.1 without suffering some awful catastrophe. Can someone confirm that I'll be able to use gcc 4.3 for the specific application that needs it but then revert to 4.1.1 without having to re-compile all or most of my system? Thanks to all who replied. My home machine is compiling gcc 4.3 as I write this (it has been running all night). The reason I stick with gcc 4.1.1 is that: (a) I ran into problems during one of the gcc upgrades a couple of years back and ended up re-installing on a couple of boxes. Most of my machines are old and slow so gcc takes a while. (b) I have about a dozen heterogeneous machines that I use as a distcc compile farm and it it is a bit of a pain to upgrade all of them (bearing in mind that distcc can't be used to compile gcc). I suppose I should build gcc on the fastest box and install to the remainder as a binary. Cheers, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: All my *.tex-files are handled as they would be written in LaTeX. But they are good old plainTeX. or in other words: tex texfile.tex ends up in errors due to the fact, that texfile.tex contains syntax with LaTeX dont understand. Fo example a missing documentstyle. man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. -- Arttu V. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex /home/mccramer (what means, 'locate' didn't found anything like that). Lost? -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
[gentoo-user] Hal and ejected DVD not unmounting
Hi, I have ran into this from time to time and it is really irritating to say it lightly. When I use my DVD drive and eject the DVD, hal seems to not unmount the device. That then causes me to get messages like this in /var/log/messages: Jun 28 03:10:15 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:15 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:17 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:17 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:19 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:19 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:21 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:21 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:23 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:23 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:25 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:25 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:27 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:27 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:29 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:29 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:31 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Jun 28 03:10:31 smoker VFS: busy inodes on changed media. Since this happens every few seconds, my messages file can get pretty large in a hurry. I have logrotate and plenty of disk space but this is still annoying as heck. I can stop it by manually unmounting the drive but I sometimes forget to do that. Can someone tell me how to beat some sense into this thing and make it unmount when I am done and the drive is empty? This has happened over many different versions of hal so specific versions doesn't seem to matter. Just in case: r...@smoker / # emerge -1vp udev hal These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild R ] sys-fs/udev-141 USE=(-selinux) 0 kB [ebuild R ] sys-apps/hal-0.5.11-r9 USE=X acpi crypt -apm -debug -dell -disk-partition -doc -laptop (-selinux) 0 kB Total: 2 packages (2 reinstalls), Size of downloads: 0 kB r...@smoker / # I threw in udev just in case. Thanks ! Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! Could they be hidden in the USE=extra as Debian seems to have something similar sounding in such a package: http://packages.debian.org/fi/lenny/texlive-formats-extra texsis -- Plain TeX macros for Physicists. Unfortunately I have USE=-extra as they caused some trouble on Gentoo and I didn't really need them at that moment. -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:52]: On 6/28/09, meino.cra...@gmx.de meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: Arttu V. arttu...@gmail.com [09-06-28 13:27]: man tex When called as virtex it will use the plain format. Not sure if this is what is called plainTeX, I've only used LaTeX. Yes, it is... tetex leaves the names of the executables untouched... Ok, here is what I got: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! Could they be hidden in the USE=extra as Debian seems to have something similar sounding in such a package: http://packages.debian.org/fi/lenny/texlive-formats-extra texsis -- Plain TeX macros for Physicists. Unfortunately I have USE=-extra as they caused some trouble on Gentoo and I didn't really need them at that moment. -- Arttu V. LaTeX macros (as LaTeX is nothing else than macros) are based on plaintex macros. So I am very...hrrrm...astonished, that it seems, the installation wants to format my TeX file in LaTeX manner and seems not to know anything about plain tex. -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kbackup and dvd sized slices
On 6/28/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: A box should pop up and if you click the little button under Maximum Archive Size, it should show the available options. Mine has unlimited, 650Mb CD, 700Mb CD and custom. The custom will not let me enter anything in Gb. If by Gb you mean the spinner to the right of the dropdown stating custom then yes, over here it lets me type in numbers (2000), and automatically adds MB once that widget loses focus. But I just installed kbackup-0.94-r1 from scratch on this amd64 box two minutes ago. So, e.g., my ~/.kde/share/config/kbackuprc only has the window dimensions saved. Maybe yours has some more settings saved in there? There is really not a USE flags to change on this one. Ideas? Someone confirm it is just me or not just me? kbackup uses kde 3.5 and I've noticed that on some of my boxes they've been rebuilt quite often over last few weeks, alongside the underlying qt libraries (which I presume provide the base of those widgets as the underlying toolkit). So, maybe you can try re-emerging kbackup and/or check the sanity state of the whole thing with revdep-rebuild? -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kbackup and dvd sized slices
Arttu V. wrote: On 6/28/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: A box should pop up and if you click the little button under Maximum Archive Size, it should show the available options. Mine has unlimited, 650Mb CD, 700Mb CD and custom. The custom will not let me enter anything in Gb. If by Gb you mean the spinner to the right of the dropdown stating custom then yes, over here it lets me type in numbers (2000), and automatically adds MB once that widget loses focus. Mine will only let me type in 3 numbers. Examples: 300 or 600 It will not accept Gb or anything over 999 But I just installed kbackup-0.94-r1 from scratch on this amd64 box two minutes ago. So, e.g., my ~/.kde/share/config/kbackuprc only has the window dimensions saved. Maybe yours has some more settings saved in there? I renamed that file with .old on the end to test whether that file maybe had bad data or something. It generated a new file but same problem. I forgot to mention that in my post tho. There is really not a USE flags to change on this one. Ideas? Someone confirm it is just me or not just me? kbackup uses kde 3.5 and I've noticed that on some of my boxes they've been rebuilt quite often over last few weeks, alongside the underlying qt libraries (which I presume provide the base of those widgets as the underlying toolkit). So, maybe you can try re-emerging kbackup and/or check the sanity state of the whole thing with revdep-rebuild? I did reemerge kbackup and the problem was still the same. I'm not real sure when this started or what updates were done to start this. I'm pretty sure qt has been updated here as well and is even being updated again as I type. I also noticed that when I try to use a saved profile that does a 4Gb slice. it errors out after a couple slices. Sorry, didn't save the error. It won't let me change the slice size on the saved profiles either. I can go down but not up. Weird huh? I'm good at finding these weird problems. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Saturday 27 June 2009, Mark Knecht wrote: On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 12:06 PM, Jacob Toddjaketodd...@gmail.com wrote: You need to emerge xorg-server. I'm about half way through now. Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11, which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have some fancy USE flags setup). -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote: Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11, which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have some fancy USE flags setup). It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical Fluxbox user. -- Neil Bothwick Sex is hereditary. If your parents never had it, chances are you wont either. - signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] emacs transient-mark-mode not work with rxvt-unicode
Hi,
I am using rxvt-unicde and emacs-23, but the emacs
transient-mark-mode(highlight selected region) not work in rxvt,
but it works in xfce terminal,
the following are details
thanks!
[I] x11-terms/rxvt-unicode
Available versions: 9.02-r1 9.05 (~)9.05-r2 (~)9.05-r3 (~)9.06
{afterimage iso14755 perl singlelinescroll truetype vanilla wcwidth
xterm-color}
Installed versions: 9.06(21:01:41 06/28/09)(perl truetype
xterm-color -afterimage -iso14755 -singlelinescroll -vanilla -wcwidth)
[I] app-editors/emacs-cvs
Available versions: (23) (~)23.0.93!s (~)23.0.94!s (~)23.0.95!s
[M](~)23.0.-r2!s [M](~)23.1.!s
{X Xaw3d alsa dbus gif gpm gtk gzip-el hesiod jpeg kerberos m17n-lib
motif png sound source svg tiff toolkit-scroll-bars xft xpm}
Installed versions: 23.0.95(23)!s(07:46:00 06/28/09)(X Xaw3d gif
gtk gzip-el jpeg png xft xpm -alsa -dbus -gpm -hesiod -kerberos
-m17n-lib -motif -sound -source -svg -tiff -toolkit-scroll-bars)
$cat ~/.Xresources
Emacs.FontBackend: xft
Emacs.geometry: 80x39
Xft.antialias: 1
Xft.hinting: 1
Xft.hintstyle: none
Xft.rgba: rgb
Xft.dpi:96
!! RXVT-unicode setting
URxvt.geometry: 85x30+80+80
URxvt.background: black
URxvt.foreground: white
URxvt.scrollBar:False
URxvt.scrollBar_right: False
URxvt.scrollstyle: plain
URxvt.perl-ext-common: default,tabbed,-selection-popup,-option-popup
URxvt.secondaryScroll: True
URxvt.inheritPixmap:False
URxvt.transient-for:windowid
URxvt.visualBell: False
URxvt.tintColor:grey
URxvt.shading: 500
URxvt.saveLines:1500
URxvt.preeditType: Root
URxvt.borderLess: False
URxvt.title:panchoats urxvt
URxvt.font:xft:Dejavu Sans
Mono:Normal:size=11:antialias=True,xft:Microsoft
YaHei:Normal:size=11:antialias=True
URxvt*imFont:xft:Dejavu Sans
Mono:Normal:size=11:antialias=True,xft:Microsoft
YaHei:Normal:size=11:antialias=True
URxvt.boldFont:xft:DejaVu Sans Mono-11:Bold,xft:Microsoft
Yahei-11:Bold:antialias=True
URxvt*inputMethod:SCIM
URxvt*preeditType: OverTheSpot
URxvt*multichar_encoding:noenc
URxvt.color0: #00
URxvt.color8: #555753
!Red
URxvt.color1: #CC
URxvt.color9: #EF2929
!Green
URxvt.color2: #4E9A06
URxvt.color10: #8AE234
!Yellow
URxvt.color3: #C4A000
URxvt.color11: #FCE94F
!Blue
URxvt.color4: #3465A4
URxvt.color12: #729FCF
!Magenta
URxvt.color5: #75507B
URxvt.color13: #AD7FA8
!Cyan
URxvt.color6: #06989A
URxvt.color14: #34E2E2
!White
URxvt.color7: #D3D7CF
URxvt.color15: #EC
XTerm*preeditType: Root
XTerm*font: -dejavu-dejavu serif-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
XTerm*wideFont: -dejavu-dejavu serif-medium-r-normal--0-0-0-0-p-0-iso8859-1
Xterm*cjkWidth: True
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote: Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11, which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have some fancy USE flags setup). It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical Fluxbox user. Hmm ... I must have been doing this wrong then? 8-/ What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as a WM? -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] Kbackup and dvd sized slices
On 6/28/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mine will only let me type in 3 numbers. Examples: 300 or 600 It will not accept Gb or anything over 999 Try something starting with a '3', you should be able to feed in four numbers. Anything starting with a four or greater will only get three numbers here as well. Weird, there must a limiter somewhere in the source code itself ... (Moments later; suggested background soundtrack: Homer Simpson saying repeatedly d'oh!) Yes, it is actually limited in the SettingsDialog.cxx code itself: maxSliceSize = new QSpinBox( groupBox2, maxSliceSize ); maxSliceSize-setEnabled( TRUE ); maxSliceSize-setMaxValue( 4096 ); maxSliceSize-setMinValue( 0 ); Can you patch that yourself to have a suitably big number where it says 4096? I have no idea what might break, but that's where the limit comes from. ebuild unpack and see for yourself in /var/tmp/portage/app-backup/kbackup-0.5.4-r1/work/kbackup-0.5.4/src/SettingsDialog.cxx, line 62 ... :) -- Arttu V.
[gentoo-user] Re: qt3support conflict
On 06/27/2009 07:24 PM, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 02:54:59 walt wrote: On 06/27/2009 03:32 PM, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: make.conf hasn't qt3support at all. Adding qt3support to qt-opengl shows... well... something horrible (see below) :-) //== emerge -pvDuN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 [4.5.1] USE=glib iconv qt3support ssl -debug -doc -pch 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 [4.5.1] USE=iconv -debug -pch 0 kB [blocks b ]x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 (x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 is blocking x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.2, x11- I recently went through the same thing on ~amd64 and emerge made me uninstall every qt package before it would start building the updates. I have no idea why, but everything finally came out okay. I'd say go ahead and emerge -C all of those qt blockers as emerge suggests. Walt, thanks! At my case portage has ovecome those blocks without direct unmerging. Ah, I see portage wants to update my qt4 *again* today, and I see a new package comment that emerging qt will pull in more qt sub-packages than I probably want -- very true. So now I'm just emerging qt-core instead. I hope it has everything that VirtualBox needs. I'll see.
Re: [gentoo-user] Hal and ejected DVD not unmounting
Dale schrieb: Hi, I have ran into this from time to time and it is really irritating to say it lightly. When I use my DVD drive and eject the DVD, hal seems to not unmount the device. That then causes me to get messages like this in /var/log/messages: [...] Since this happens every few seconds, my messages file can get pretty large in a hurry. I have logrotate and plenty of disk space but this is still annoying as heck. I can stop it by manually unmounting the drive but I sometimes forget to do that. Can someone tell me how to beat some sense into this thing and make it unmount when I am done and the drive is empty? This has happened over many different versions of hal so specific versions doesn't seem to matter. Just in case: [...] How did you eject the DVD? Did you press the button on the drive, did you use `eject` or maybe your desktop environment offers you that option (thunar, nautilus, kde, ...)? signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 6:04 AM, Neil Bothwickn...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:00:55 +0100, Mick wrote: Isn't it correct to say that you just need to emerge x11-base/xorg-x11, which will pull in x11-base/xorg-server by default (unless you have some fancy USE flags setup). It will also pull in a shedload of dependencies, being a meta package,something that is not likely to appeal to the typical Fluxbox user. -- Neil Bothwick Exactly. My use of fluxbox on this machine was to test that X is even working over S-Video. (It is.) My goal after that was to emerge MythTV again and try running that. That causes X to crash for MTRR problems so that would be today's goal. This didn't used to happen with my old kernel and the fglrx driver so probably I haven't configured the kernel correctly? With xorg-server fluxbox emerged I only needed about 20 packages to get Myth installed so I agree that xorg-x11 pulls in a bunch of stuff I probably don't need. I would have emerged xorg-x11 if I hadn't been reading through the xorg config guide once again and seen that this was an option. I'm not sure the other stuff is big, but it's a lot of packages. - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:22:14 +0100, Mick wrote: What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as a WM? Install xorg-server, anything else that's needed will be installed as a dependency of xorg-server or your client software. The xorg-x11 meta package was,AFAIR, created for backwards compatibility for old ebuilds that still depended on the old monolithic package. -- Neil Bothwick Celery is not food. It is a member of the plywood family. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On 2009-06-28, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. My use of fluxbox on this machine was to test that X is even working over S-Video. (It is.) My goal after that was to emerge MythTV again and try running that. Anybody running MythTV can't be too concerned about bloat. Myth requires X11 and Qt even for a headless backend server. -- Grant
[gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
Hi, I know this is WAY off topic for this list but there's a lot of smart, experienced people here so I figured I'd look for a little guidance and then possibly join another email list that's more appropriate. These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. If you can recommend a good list or forum for silly folks like me - know nothing about programming and have to ask lots os stupid beginner questions - I'd greatly appreciate that also. Thanks in advance! Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:28 AM, Grant Edwardsgra...@visi.com wrote: On 2009-06-28, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Exactly. My use of fluxbox on this machine was to test that X is even working over S-Video. (It is.) My goal after that was to emerge MythTV again and try running that. Anybody running MythTV can't be too concerned about bloat. Myth requires X11 and Qt even for a headless backend server. -- Grant Not too concerned, but less is better. Why install all the xorg-x11 stuff when it's not needed?
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: qt3support conflict
On Sunday 28 June 2009 16:12:26 walt wrote: On 06/27/2009 07:24 PM, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 02:54:59 walt wrote: On 06/27/2009 03:32 PM, Andrew Gaydenko wrote: make.conf hasn't qt3support at all. Adding qt3support to qt-opengl shows... well... something horrible (see below) :-) //= = emerge -pvDuN world These are the packages that would be merged, in order: Calculating dependencies... done! [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-core-4.5.2 [4.5.1] USE=glib iconv qt3support ssl -debug -doc -pch 0 kB [ebuild U ] x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 [4.5.1] USE=iconv -debug -pch 0 kB [blocks b ]x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 (x11-libs/qt-test-4.5.2 is blocking x11-libs/qt-assistant-4.5.2, x11- I recently went through the same thing on ~amd64 and emerge made me uninstall every qt package before it would start building the updates. I have no idea why, but everything finally came out okay. I'd say go ahead and emerge -C all of those qt blockers as emerge suggests. Walt, thanks! At my case portage has ovecome those blocks without direct unmerging. Ah, I see portage wants to update my qt4 *again* today, and I see a new package comment that emerging qt will pull in more qt sub-packages than I probably want -- very true. So now I'm just emerging qt-core instead. I hope it has everything that VirtualBox needs. I'll see. You do not need qt-anything in world. It is a library, and ebuilds pull it in as needed. Remove all mention of qt ebuilds from the world file and double check that things are still correct via a null output from emerge -uND world emerge --depclean Then add USE=qt3support to make.conf -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sunday 28 June 2009, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 14:22:14 +0100, Mick wrote: What's the 'right' way of installing Xorg on a machine that runs FB as a WM? Install xorg-server, anything else that's needed will be installed as a dependency of xorg-server or your client software. The xorg-x11 meta package was,AFAIR, created for backwards compatibility for old ebuilds that still depended on the old monolithic package. Oh I see, thanks for this! I had it the other way around in my head. -- Regards, Mick signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
Mark, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. One possibility is R (http://www.r-project.org/). It has very good graphing facilities, can access various database engines, is multi-platform and unless you process immense quantities of data, should be fast enough. There may be people on the R mailing list doing the kind of thing that you want and there may be an add-on package that matches your needs (there are hundreds of add-ons). Lightweight? No, but you don't need to learn all of it, just the bits relevant to your usage. R is in portage. Another possibility is Root (http://root.cern.ch/drupal/) but it requires you to program in C++ (but there are Python and Ruby bindings) and is probably a steeper curve to ascend than R. However, Root is capable of processing huge amounts of data quickly -- that is what it was designed for. Anything you can do in R you can do in Root, but you will write more of the application yourself rather than using canned routines. I have seen messages on the Root mailing list from people working with fiscal data. Root is not lightweight, but is _is_ very powerful. Root is in portage. I'm sure there are other very capable systems out there, these are two that I use (or have used). Cheers, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
Mark Knecht wrote: These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. Have you looked at using Octave? It's a Matlab clone (and thus very C-like), can output to Gnuplot and you can also create filters of your own and output to Graphviz. The language R can perhaps also be of use, depending on what you wish to accomplish... So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... Best regards Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 9:49 AM, Roger Masonrma...@mun.ca wrote: Mark, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. One possibility is R (http://www.r-project.org/). It has very good graphing facilities, can access various database engines, is multi-platform and unless you process immense quantities of data, should be fast enough. There may be people on the R mailing list doing the kind of thing that you want and there may be an add-on package that matches your needs (there are hundreds of add-ons). Lightweight? No, but you don't need to learn all of it, just the bits relevant to your usage. R is in portage. Another possibility is Root (http://root.cern.ch/drupal/) but it requires you to program in C++ (but there are Python and Ruby bindings) and is probably a steeper curve to ascend than R. However, Root is capable of processing huge amounts of data quickly -- that is what it was designed for. Anything you can do in R you can do in Root, but you will write more of the application yourself rather than using canned routines. I have seen messages on the Root mailing list from people working with fiscal data. Root is not lightweight, but is _is_ very powerful. Root is in portage. I'm sure there are other very capable systems out there, these are two that I use (or have used). Cheers, Roger Actually, I have R on one machine now. I haven't done much with it. There's a good Google University YouTube statistics course you can take online for free - was taught at Google, recorded an put on you Tube, on data mining that uses R. I went through about 4 hours of that but got distracted by life and didn't finish it. R might be a good solution in that I could play on Linux but always be able to go to windows if the need arose. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:28:32 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Anybody running MythTV can't be too concerned about bloat. Myth requires X11 and Qt even for a headless backend server. You only need the X libs, not the server. But anyone running a MythTV backend will have plenty of disk space anyway, so an extra few MB of libs that are unused after initial setup is hardly the end of the world :) -- Neil Bothwick Whats the difference between a magician and a brothel? One has a cunning array of stunts, signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pkpete...@coolmail.se wrote: Mark Knecht wrote: These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. Have you looked at using Octave? It's a Matlab clone (and thus very C-like), can output to Gnuplot and you can also create filters of your own and output to Graphviz. The language R can perhaps also be of use, depending on what you wish to accomplish... I haven't looked at Octave. I was thinking I should program a stand alone app and not really use an existing app. It's jsut where my head was. So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier to just run a small app of my own there. I sometimes travel but still need to trade so my laptop would be running Windows at that time. I'd rather do my learning in the Linux environment. Less risk I'll blow away my whole machines, etc., and generally a nicer group of people cannot be found. :-) - Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex Go to http://www.tug.org/texinfohtml/web2c.html Search for 'plain.fmt'... It seems like this could be solved by making a symbolic link from 'tex.fmt' (as suggested elsewhere). Haven't tried this myself so no guarantees... MfG Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I know this is WAY off topic for this list but there's a lot of smart, experienced people here so I figured I'd look for a little guidance and then possibly join another email list that's more appropriate. These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. If you can recommend a good list or forum for silly folks like me - know nothing about programming and have to ask lots os stupid beginner questions - I'd greatly appreciate that also. #friendly-coders on freenode is full of friendly people. Depending on how much effort you are willing to put in, I would probably suggest looking at some form of macro set for a spreadsheet (Excel and OO Calc both use basic variants, Gnumeric has a python interpreter.) Another possibility if you don't need much interactivity on the GUI would be to create a script + C-mini-app using GnuPlot to generate your graphs. Just a few thoughts... Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpHrWMACgkQZr0UhZgPVmyffgCg97gheECMbXqdhH640aGkxuWM fjoAoOwNt9vD+uNIt/iENZ0svkSR6B+4 =I+WH -END PGP SIGNATURE-
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
pk pete...@coolmail.se [09-06-28 19:37]: meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: /home/mccramervirtex texfile.tex This is TeXk, Version 3.1415926 (Web2C 7.5.7) %-line parsing enabled. kpathsea: Running mktexfmt plain.fmt I can't find the format file `plain.fmt'! /home/mccramerlocate plainfmt.tex Go to http://www.tug.org/texinfohtml/web2c.html Search for 'plain.fmt'... It seems like this could be solved by making a symbolic link from 'tex.fmt' (as suggested elsewhere). Haven't tried this myself so no guarantees... MfG Peter K ...and dont forget to do a ls -R . ls-R in the according root directory, from where are all *.fmt are installed, otherwise kpathsea will fail to find the file. But what was the idea behind tex to behave like compiling/texing for /LaTeX/ instead of plain TeX? This is the first time, when I have to call virtex to compile/tex for plain tex format... Even the manpages say: This version of TeX looks at its command line to see what name it was called under. If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable. When called as initex (or when the -ini option is given) it can be used to precompile macros into a .fmt file. When called as virtex it will use the plain format. When called under any other name, TeX will use that name as the name of the format to use. i (But:) For example, when called as tex the tex format is used, which is identical to the plain format. The commands defined by the plain format are documented in The TeX for nroffbook. Other formats that are often available include latex and amstex. So, there seems something non-standard or my installation git rotten regarding this... Normally initex is used to create *.fmt files. And virtex (from virgin tex) is the one which does it works without any tex format -- the way to write in TeX assembler so to say... Myterious the world we live in, mysterious the way we go... Slightly confused, Meino Cramer -- Please don't send me any Word- or Powerpoint-Attachments unless it's absolutely neccessary. - Send simply Text. See http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/no-word-attachments.html In a world without fences and walls nobody needs gates and windows.
[gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On 2009-06-28, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 16:28:32 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: Anybody running MythTV can't be too concerned about bloat. Myth requires X11 and Qt even for a headless backend server. You only need the X libs, not the server. True. But anyone running a MythTV backend will have plenty of disk space anyway, so an extra few MB of libs that are unused after initial setup is hardly the end of the world :) It still grates on the engineering nerve a bit. ;) -- Grant
Re: [gentoo-user] coexisting GCC versions
Hello, Roger Mason rma...@mun.ca writes: I need gcc 4.3 to compile a specific application. I am hoping that I can install gcc 4.3 alongside 4.1.1 without suffering some awful catastrophe. This is the output of emerge on the machine in question: The compilation finally completed. It only took about 14 hours. I followed the info presented at the end of the installation and did, as root: gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 and gcc-config -l now says: garnet rmason # gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 I also ran source /etc/profile, as recommended and gcc -v now reports gcc-4.3.2. However, as an ordinary user gcc -v reports: garnet ~ $ gcc -v Using built-in specs. Target: i686-pc-linux-gnu Configured with: /var/tmp/portage/sys-devel/gcc-4.1.1-r3/work/gcc-4.1.1/configure (blah, blah) That is after running source /etc/profile _and_ (when that did not change the reported gcc version) logging out and back in. How do I set gcc to version 4.3.2 for an ordinary user? Thanks, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:50 AM, Robert Bridgerob...@robbieab.com wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mark Knecht wrote: Hi, I know this is WAY off topic for this list but there's a lot of smart, experienced people here so I figured I'd look for a little guidance and then possibly join another email list that's more appropriate. These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. So the main question is what sort of language (and possibly programming environment) should a complete novice look at to get his feet wet with GUI programming. I'd like something fairly light - performance probably won't be a huge problem - that I could run under Cygwin or maybe compile to run native in Windows should that ever become useful. For now it's probably a relatively simple Linux app that I'd likely run once a week on Saturday morning on 15 to 20 databases I collect on Friday night. If you can recommend a good list or forum for silly folks like me - know nothing about programming and have to ask lots os stupid beginner questions - I'd greatly appreciate that also. #friendly-coders on freenode is full of friendly people. Depending on how much effort you are willing to put in, I would probably suggest looking at some form of macro set for a spreadsheet (Excel and OO Calc both use basic variants, Gnumeric has a python interpreter.) Another possibility if you don't need much interactivity on the GUI would be to create a script + C-mini-app using GnuPlot to generate your graphs. Just a few thoughts... Rob. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v2.0.11 (GNU/Linux) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iEYEARECAAYFAkpHrWMACgkQZr0UhZgPVmyffgCg97gheECMbXqdhH640aGkxuWM fjoAoOwNt9vD+uNIt/iENZ0svkSR6B+4 =I+WH -END PGP SIGNATURE- Actually I'm liking the suggest to try using R. I have already managed to read my data files using the read.csv function. When I understand headers and tables better I'll likely be able to make my plots from that data pretty easily. It's cross platform so it solves that problem and keeps me focused on where I might add value - evaluating the market data - and not worrying about how to program in C or Python. Open to other ideas but this one is looking pretty good to me so far. Thanks, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user]WAS lvm problem -- NOW sleep tweak?
Put it in localmount, not bootmisc, just before ebegin Mounting local filesystems No lvm but same problem: the two partitions sdb1, sdb2 aren't mounted during boot, but are mountable by hand following login. I added the sleep command to localmount and the partitions are now mounted during boot. But, only after some annoying ugliness. a bit of console output: *Checking all filesystems... fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1 ... ditto /dev/sdb2 ... *Operational error, continuing [!!] *Mounting local filesystems... [ok] ... and so on to login. And yes the partitions are indeed mounted. But is this the best I can hope for. I hate seeing red during bootup ;( mw
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:03:35 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But anyone running a MythTV backend will have plenty of disk space anyway, so an extra few MB of libs that are unused after initial setup is hardly the end of the world :) It still grates on the engineering nerve a bit. ;) A curses setup program should please the frugal engineers, or would you prefer to alter the MySQL table files with a hex editor? ;-) -- Neil Bothwick Keep your words soft and sweet in case you have to eat them. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 6/28/09, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I'm liking the suggest to try using R. I have already managed to read my data files using the read.csv function. When I understand headers and tables better I'll likely be able to make my plots from that data pretty easily. It's cross platform so it solves that problem and keeps me focused on where I might add value - evaluating the market data - and not worrying about how to program in C or Python. Open to other ideas but this one is looking pretty good to me so far. If you have your data in a text-like, tabular format that R likes then you might also try feeding them into a data mining package like Weka. Depending on what kind of analysis you are looking for, it might be even better (and easier) than R -- or entirely unsuitable. :) -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 11:23 AM, Arttu V.arttu...@gmail.com wrote: On 6/28/09, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote: Actually I'm liking the suggest to try using R. I have already managed to read my data files using the read.csv function. When I understand headers and tables better I'll likely be able to make my plots from that data pretty easily. It's cross platform so it solves that problem and keeps me focused on where I might add value - evaluating the market data - and not worrying about how to program in C or Python. Open to other ideas but this one is looking pretty good to me so far. If you have your data in a text-like, tabular format that R likes then you might also try feeding them into a data mining package like Weka. Depending on what kind of analysis you are looking for, it might be even better (and easier) than R -- or entirely unsuitable. :) -- Arttu V. Thanks Arttu. I've already 'data mined' by hand, found some stuff that's working for me and need to track it using charts and tables in an easy manner. If I can handle the R programming for doing this then this will work fine. That said it was a lot of work to data mine by hand so down the road when it's time to do more then I'll likely want to look at something like Weka. Cheers, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: coexisting GCC versions
On 06/28/2009 08:54 PM, Roger Mason wrote: [...] I followed the info presented at the end of the installation Did you read the Gentoo documentation about upgrading GCC? If not, now's the time :)
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
Mark Knecht schrieb: [...] These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. [...] This not what you asked for, but you might want to take a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstock A friend of mine uses it for his stock trading. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] list of emerged programs?
All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? -j
Re: [gentoo-user] list of emerged programs?
James wrote: All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? -j genlop -l qlop -l signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature
[gentoo-user] Re: list of emerged programs?
On 06/28/2009 11:06 PM, James wrote: All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? for f in `ls -rt \`find /var/db/pkg -name *.ebuild\``; do basename $f .ebuild; done (The above command is just one line, in case your mail/news client breaks it into two lines.)
[gentoo-user] Re: list of emerged programs?
On 06/28/2009 11:19 PM, Justin wrote: James wrote: All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? -j genlop -l qlop -l Or that :P :P :P
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: list of emerged programs?
Thanks to you and Justin for the insanely quick answers. -j On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 4:23 PM, Nikos Chantziarasrea...@arcor.de wrote: On 06/28/2009 11:06 PM, James wrote: All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? for f in `ls -rt \`find /var/db/pkg -name *.ebuild\``; do basename $f .ebuild; done (The above command is just one line, in case your mail/news client breaks it into two lines.)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: list of emerged programs?
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 23:23 +0300, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/28/2009 11:06 PM, James wrote: All, Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? for f in `ls -rt \`find /var/db/pkg -name *.ebuild\``; do basename $f .ebuild; done (The above command is just one line, in case your mail/news client breaks it into two lines.) $ cd /var/db/pkg/; find * -maxdepth 1 -mindepth 1 $ eix -I --only-names
Re: [gentoo-user] [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 1:05 PM, Florian Philippli...@f_philipp.fastmail.net wrote: Mark Knecht schrieb: [...] These days I'm trading stock index futures for a living. I have data files that I analyze in Excel over the weekend to help me make decisions about how to trade the coming week, but I'm always fighting Excel as it really isn't intended for the sort of math I want to do. The math's not difficult, but I need to look at various ranges, manage, sort and extract data from arrays, and amd then create charts. This is getting pretty difficult in Excel these days so I've started to wonder about writing a simple app to do what I need to do. It's not generally difficult stuff but it requires (or I prefer) a lot of small charts. I'm vaguely familiar with C Pascal, but haven't programmed in years. I don't know C++ at all. I was trained as an EE. [...] This not what you asked for, but you might want to take a look at http://sourceforge.net/projects/jstock A friend of mine uses it for his stock trading. Yeah, I know about it. It's really for tracking, not trading. All my trading is done on the TradeStation platform. I've programmed my trading systems in EasyLanguage and all trades are made automatically. 5-10 trades/day, maybe 1000 trades/year. I'm evaluating data sets of thousands of trades from backtest data going back years and years. Except for a few data file format issues R is looking pretty interesting. I've got data in and I'm learning how to access rows and columns in large tables to create the same data I've been fighting with Excel to get. (and OpenOffice although it's too slow to keep me interested...) Anyway, thanks for the pointer. Cheers, Mark Cheers, Mark
Re: [gentoo-user] Hal and ejected DVD not unmounting
Florian Philipp wrote: Dale schrieb: Hi, I have ran into this from time to time and it is really irritating to say it lightly. When I use my DVD drive and eject the DVD, hal seems to not unmount the device. That then causes me to get messages like this in /var/log/messages: [...] Since this happens every few seconds, my messages file can get pretty large in a hurry. I have logrotate and plenty of disk space but this is still annoying as heck. I can stop it by manually unmounting the drive but I sometimes forget to do that. Can someone tell me how to beat some sense into this thing and make it unmount when I am done and the drive is empty? This has happened over many different versions of hal so specific versions doesn't seem to matter. Just in case: [...] How did you eject the DVD? Did you press the button on the drive, did you use `eject` or maybe your desktop environment offers you that option (thunar, nautilus, kde, ...)? I just push the button on the drive. I have always done it that way. At one time the eject thing in the KDE menu wouldn't actually eject. It just sat there blinking at me. :/ Should I use the menu and not the button? Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Kbackup and dvd sized slices
Arttu V. wrote: On 6/28/09, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Mine will only let me type in 3 numbers. Examples: 300 or 600 It will not accept Gb or anything over 999 Try something starting with a '3', you should be able to feed in four numbers. Anything starting with a four or greater will only get three numbers here as well. Weird, there must a limiter somewhere in the source code itself ... (Moments later; suggested background soundtrack: Homer Simpson saying repeatedly d'oh!) Yes, it is actually limited in the SettingsDialog.cxx code itself: maxSliceSize = new QSpinBox( groupBox2, maxSliceSize ); maxSliceSize-setEnabled( TRUE ); maxSliceSize-setMaxValue( 4096 ); maxSliceSize-setMinValue( 0 ); Can you patch that yourself to have a suitably big number where it says 4096? I have no idea what might break, but that's where the limit comes from. ebuild unpack and see for yourself in /var/tmp/portage/app-backup/kbackup-0.5.4-r1/work/kbackup-0.5.4/src/SettingsDialog.cxx, line 62 ... :) Ahhh, so it isn't just me. That's cool. I'm not sure about editing anything tho. I tend to break stuff. I'm just wanting to really fill up a DVD is all. I wonder why they changed that? Confusing. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Hal and ejected DVD not unmounting
On Sunday 28 June 2009 22:55:50 Dale wrote: I just push the button on the drive. I have always done it that way. At one time the eject thing in the KDE menu wouldn't actually eject. It just sat there blinking at me. :/ Should I use the menu and not the button? I think you should use KDE's eject function, then eject manually if the disc doesn't come out by itself. I also think your expectations are completely reasonable - if hal polls the cd drive every two seconds to find when a disc is in it and then mount it, *surely* it should umount the disc when it knows for an absolute fact that the disc is no longer present. I can't think of a single reason why hal should every leave a disc mounted that isn't there any more ... -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
Re: [gentoo-user] plainTeX instead of LaTeX
meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: ...and dont forget to do a ls -R . ls-R in the according root directory, from where are all *.fmt are installed, otherwise kpathsea will fail to find the file. Oh yeah, forgot about that. But what was the idea behind tex to behave like compiling/texing for /LaTeX/ instead of plain TeX? This is the first time, when I have to call virtex to compile/tex for plain tex format... Even the manpages say: This version of TeX looks at its command line to see what name it was called under. If they exist, then both initex and virtex are symbolic links to the tex executable. When called as initex (or when the -ini option is given) it can be used to precompile macros into a .fmt file. When called as virtex it will use the plain format. When called under any other name, TeX will use that name as the name of the format to use. i (But:) For example, when called as tex the tex format is used, which is identical to the plain format. The commands defined by the plain format are documented in The TeX for nroffbook. Other formats that are often available include latex and amstex. So, there seems something non-standard or my installation git rotten regarding this... Well, if possible, you could always try this on another system, to see if it's unique to your machine... Normally initex is used to create *.fmt files. And virtex (from virgin tex) is the one which does it works without any tex format -- the way to write in TeX assembler so to say... Myterious the world we live in, mysterious the way we go... Couldn't agree more. :-) MfG Peter K
Re: [gentoo-user] Hal and ejected DVD not unmounting
Alan McKinnon wrote: On Sunday 28 June 2009 22:55:50 Dale wrote: I just push the button on the drive. I have always done it that way. At one time the eject thing in the KDE menu wouldn't actually eject. It just sat there blinking at me. :/ Should I use the menu and not the button? I think you should use KDE's eject function, then eject manually if the disc doesn't come out by itself. I also think your expectations are completely reasonable - if hal polls the cd drive every two seconds to find when a disc is in it and then mount it, *surely* it should umount the disc when it knows for an absolute fact that the disc is no longer present. I can't think of a single reason why hal should every leave a disc mounted that isn't there any more ... Yep, it's sort of like looking at your hand to see if it is still there. If nobody cut it off, why check every two seconds to see if it is still there? Now if you are expecting someone to cut it off, then maybe check to see. Of course, if this happens a lot, you either need mental help or a body guard. I think hal needs mental help myself. I just thought it may be me that needs help, maybe a setting or something. This is another thing that doesn't restore my confidence hal. Still on the old xorg. Thanks much. Dale :-) :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: coexisting GCC versions
Hi, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@arcor.de writes: On 06/28/2009 08:54 PM, Roger Mason wrote: [...] I followed the info presented at the end of the installation Did you read the Gentoo documentation about upgrading GCC? If not, now's the time :) This is what it says: # emerge -uav gcc (Please substitute i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.5 with the GCC version and CHOST settings you've upgraded to:) # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 # source /etc/profile and that is what I did. Now gcc-config says: garnet ~ $ gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * Whereas gcc -v says: snip gcc version 4.1.1 (Gentoo 4.1.1-r3 p1.10) If there is something else that I need to do then I did not see it in the upgrade guide, so please, will someone enlighten me? Thanks, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] list of emerged programs?
Hello, James j...@nc.rr.com writes: Is there a simple, quick way to list all of the packages that have been emerged in cronological order? Listing /var/log/portage with appropriate options to ls may work. Cheers, Roger
Re: [gentoo-user] Kbackup and dvd sized slices
On Sun, 2009-06-28 at 15:58 -0500, Dale wrote: Arttu V. wrote: maxSliceSize-setMaxValue( 4096 ); Ahhh, so it isn't just me. That's cool. I'm not sure about editing anything tho. I tend to break stuff. I'm just wanting to really fill up a DVD is all. I wonder why they changed that? Confusing. They seem to have an explanation on the webpage: http://www.kde-apps.org/content/show.php?content=44998 The 4GB limit is due to Qt3 limits on 32-bit architectures. They don't mention if it affects also 64-bit systems. But in other news there, they seem to have released kbackup 0.6 just a month ago, which incidentally among other things removes the 4GB limit: - Port to cmake and KDE4/Qt4, which also removes the 4GB limit per file -- Arttu V.
Re: [gentoo-user] Removing qt4 meta
Hi all, thanks for all your tips! Also found some inconsistencies in my installation, which I was able to fix. -- Regards, Marco On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 7:04 PM, Alan McKinnonalan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On Saturday 27 June 2009 18:13:56 Marco wrote: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:33 PM, Sebastian Beßlerwebmas...@darkmetatron.de wrote: Marco schrieb: On Sat, Jun 27, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Dirk Heinrichsdirk.heinri...@online.de wrote: Am Samstag 27 Juni 2009 15:51:20 schrieb Marco: [...] If you have eix installed you could use eix -I --only-names x11-libs/qt |xargs emerge -C or if you have no package that depends on qt emerge --depclean -a after emerge -C x11-libs/qt should do the job. Is there a way to find out if packages depend on qt? Although I think I did not install any packages that depend on qt (saving space) I am not 100% sure... equery depends package_name Note that this lists packages that *could* depend on the named package, not just those that *do* depend on your specific machine. also look at qdepends -d -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
[gentoo-user] Request for [OT] advice
How can I go about merging two bookmarks.html style files... and not lose any or duplicate any? I realize the de-duping part is probably not going to be all that thorough so maybe just at some level, remove dups. It seems with diff and patch I end up losing bookmarks. Also I'm not so sure I know how to do that. Which order to diff the files and patch etc. But also it seems those tools may interfere with the necessary format to obtain a bookmark.html syle result once imported into `firefox'. I realize there are bookmark sites that claim to be able to do this. And even tools in portage to create you own server also foxmarks claims to allow a server setup. I've tried many of the above choices and for one reason or another either failed or didn't like the result. I want to know if I can accomplish something worthwhile with common scripting tools and a pretty low level of skill with them.
[gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On 2009-06-28, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 18:03:35 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: But anyone running a MythTV backend will have plenty of disk space anyway, so an extra few MB of libs that are unused after initial setup is hardly the end of the world :) It still grates on the engineering nerve a bit. ;) A curses setup program should please the frugal engineers, or would you prefer to alter the MySQL table files with a hex editor? ;-) I usually do one of three things: 1) Type SQL commands. 2) Use Mythweb. 3) Run the setup program so that it displays on a different machine. That last option is clumsy, since it takes forever to start up, is sluggish once it is running, and I find the UI used by the setup programs to be obtuse: arrow, and enter keys never do what I expect them to (and I've been using Myth for 6+ years now). I think running the setup programs on the server is the wrong approach entirely. If I want a GUI setup program, I'd rather run it on a normal desktop/latpop machine with a decent resolution and a mouse. They've invented this thing called a network that lets a UI program on one computer talk to a database on another. It's pretty cool. Trying to do a GUI on a machine with a desktop that's 500x350 pixels and has no mouse/keyboard is always going to produce miserable results with widgets ending up completely off screen, unreadable fonts, and strings clipped to the point of being unintelligible. And indeed that's what you get get when you install MythTv an NTSC display with a normal amount of overscan. There was another MySQL table-editor UI that I tried once-upon-a-time, but it was pretty hard to get up and running, and not much easier than using 1) and 2). -- Grant
[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pkpete...@coolmail.se wrote: Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but things have *really* changed since then! Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do to get them working. http://appdb.winehq.org/ I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first one to get it working :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 23:05:28 + (UTC), Grant Edwards wrote: A curses setup program should please the frugal engineers, or would you prefer to alter the MySQL table files with a hex editor? ;-) I usually do one of three things: 1) Type SQL commands. 2) Use Mythweb. 3) Run the setup program so that it displays on a different machine. That last option is clumsy, since it takes forever to start up, is sluggish once it is running, and I find the UI used by the setup programs to be obtuse: arrow, and enter keys never do what I expect them to (and I've been using Myth for 6+ years now). You can't do stuff like channel scanning with the first two, so running mythtv-setup over SSH is the only option, which means you need qt3 and X libs on a headless server :( -- Neil Bothwick And God said Let there be light and there was light. There was still nothing, but you could see it better. signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On 2009-06-29, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: You can't do stuff like channel scanning with the first two, so running mythtv-setup over SSH is the only option, which means you need qt3 and X libs on a headless server :( I know. Making channel-scanning a separate text-mode application similar to mythfilldatabase would solve that problem. The thing I find truly odd about MythTv is that is _is_ split up into frontend-UI-player and backend-server yet the backend is so distinctly ill-suited to be installed on a server type machine. This time around, I'm installing the backend on a normal desktop machine that's already going to have an X server, but it's probably going to be the only app that requires Qt3. I should try out Freevo some day. It's written in Python, so it should be more stable than MythTv. But, it doesn't support my tuner yet, and it doesn't appear to support a separate backend with multiple frontends.
[gentoo-user] Re: fluxbox without xorg-server? How do you start X?
On 2009-06-29, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote: I should try out Freevo some day. It's written in Python, so it should be more stable than MythTv. But, it doesn't support my tuner yet, and it doesn't appear to support a separate backend with multiple frontends. I take that back -- I just checked the web-site and it does support separate backend/frontend machines. Hmm...
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pkpete...@coolmail.se wrote: Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but things have *really* changed since then! Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do to get them working. http://appdb.winehq.org/ I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first one to get it working :-) I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it. I tried TS maybe a year ago. It wouldn't even install much less run. There's no good way for Wine developers to debug the problems as it required a funded account for anyone to run it. Sorry, but I'd never risk REAL money trading a Windows app in like TS in Wine, vmware, xen or anything else that the app wasn't specifically written for. The very last thing I wanted to do with this thread is create some sort of religious war. It's not my intent. I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. Yes, M$ wants us there, and you can go check the TS forums (or maybe you can't if you don't have a trading account - I don't remember) to find the 50 times I've asked TS to port their platform to any distro, any revision of Linux. The number of people responding in the positive is large, but TS has no visible intention of do it so I'm locked in. Please, let's drop the M$ stuff from this discussion. R will like work out nicely for me. I can run the trading on windows, because it's the only practical solution, but I can share a drive over the network and use R on Gentoo reading those files. Please don't assume that because I use Windows that I prefer it. FAR FROM IT! With best regards, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 05:50 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 5:12 PM, waltw41...@gmail.com wrote: On 06/28/2009 10:16 AM, Mark Knecht wrote: On Sun, Jun 28, 2009 at 10:09 AM, pkpete...@coolmail.sewrote: Why Windows? I'm merely curious, not trying to criticize... No offense taken. All the trading is done on the Windows platform using proprietary trading platform apps. All the datafiles are therefore sitting in Windows and it just seems easier... So true, and that's exactly where M$ wants us. I need to use a couple of M$-specific apps for the same reason, and much to my joy they both run very well on recent versions of wine. I first tried wine years ago when it was running only 16-bit windows apps and I gave it up as nothing more than a toy -- but things have *really* changed since then! Wine is a toy no longer, it's a powerful tool and I'd urge you to play with it at for a week or two to see what it can do. They have an apps database that lists popular windows programs that are known to run under wine (or not) and what you need to do to get them working. http://appdb.winehq.org/ I don't see Trade Station listed there but you could be the first one to get it working :-) I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it. I tried TS maybe a year ago. It wouldn't even install much less run. There's no good way for Wine developers to debug the problems as it required a funded account for anyone to run it. Sorry, but I'd never risk REAL money trading a Windows app in like TS in Wine, vmware, xen or anything else that the app wasn't specifically written for. The very last thing I wanted to do with this thread is create some sort of religious war. It's not my intent. I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. Yes, M$ wants us there, and you can go check the TS forums (or maybe you can't if you don't have a trading account - I don't remember) to find the 50 times I've asked TS to port their platform to any distro, any revision of Linux. The number of people responding in the positive is large, but TS has no visible intention of do it so I'm locked in. Please, let's drop the M$ stuff from this discussion. R will like work out nicely for me. I can run the trading on windows, because it's the only practical solution, but I can share a drive over the network and use R on Gentoo reading those files. Please don't assume that because I use Windows that I prefer it. FAR FROM IT! With best regards, Mark
[gentoo-user] Re: [WAY OT] GUI programming for Linux (and Windows possibly)
On 06/28/2009 05:50 PM, Mark Knecht wrote: I used to be an app maintainer for wine. I know about it and support it but no longer us it... Thanks for contributing to the wine project! ...I do however STRONGLY support your right to become a full-time, fully automated trader trading every day with your own money like I have. Then you'll have the right to decide what to do with your money for real as opposed to making suggestions about what I do with mine. I completely understand the hostility implied in your response and I don't for one nanosecond take it personally. I have just as much hostility saved up for M$, but absolutely none of it directed at you. I wish you every success with your new profession :-)
Re: [gentoo-user] Re: coexisting GCC versions
Roger Mason writes: Now gcc-config says: garnet ~ $ gcc-config -l [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.1.1 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-4.3.2 * Whereas gcc -v says: snip gcc version 4.1.1 (Gentoo 4.1.1-r3 p1.10) If there is something else that I need to do then I did not see it in the upgrade guide, so please, will someone enlighten me? No, your steps worked fine for me. What is your $PATH? (echo $PATH) I have /usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.1.2 in there (just before /usr/i686- pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2), don't know where this comes from. The directory usr/i486-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin does not exist, so it does not matter. Also have a look in /etc/env.d/*gcc*, do these settings look okay? That's where gcc-config changes things. My 05gcc-i686-pc-linux-gnu has the line PATH=/usr/i686-pc-linux-gnu/gcc-bin/4.3.2 in it. Wonko
Re: [gentoo-user]WAS lvm problem -- NOW sleep tweak?
On Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:18:26 -0600 Maxim Wexler maxim.wex...@gmail.com wrote: Put it in localmount, not bootmisc, just before ebegin Mounting local filesystems No lvm but same problem: the two partitions sdb1, sdb2 aren't mounted during boot, but are mountable by hand following login. I added the sleep command to localmount and the partitions are now mounted during boot. But, only after some annoying ugliness. a bit of console output: *Checking all filesystems... fsck.ext2: No such file or directory while trying to open /dev/sdb1 ... ditto /dev/sdb2 ... *Operational error, continuing [!!] *Mounting local filesystems... [ok] ... and so on to login. And yes the partitions are indeed mounted. But is this the best I can hope for. I hate seeing red during bootup ;( You can: 1. Add that sleep to fsck (or any earlier script) instead of localmount. 2. Create separate initscript, say, disks-wait with nothing but sleep and either add it to sysinit runlevel or to boot, but with appropriate before dependencies, so fsck and localmount will run after it. Looks cleaner to me than the first way. -- Mike Kazantsev // fraggod.net signature.asc Description: PGP signature
[gentoo-user] finding qt plugins?
Howdy, On ~x86 did the upgrade to qt 4.5.2 and get the following message: After a rebuild or upgrade of Qt, it can happen that Qt plugins (such as Qt and KDE styles and widgets) can no longer be loaded. In this situation you should recompile the packages providing these plugins... Packages that typically need to be recompiled are kdelibs from KDE4, any additional KDE4/Qt4 styles, qscintilla and PyQt4... Then followed the link on the plugins which stated: The Qt library and all plugins are built using a build key. The build key in the Qt library is examined against the build key in the plugin, and if they match, the plugin is loaded. If the build keys do not match, then the Qt library refuses to load the plugin. So how do I find all the installed qt plugins on my system and check their build keys? TIA, Roy
Re: [gentoo-user] finding qt plugins?
Roy Wright wrote: Howdy, On ~x86 did the upgrade to qt 4.5.2 and get the following message: After a rebuild or upgrade of Qt, it can happen that Qt plugins (such as Qt and KDE styles and widgets) can no longer be loaded. In this situation you should recompile the packages providing these plugins... Packages that typically need to be recompiled are kdelibs from KDE4, any additional KDE4/Qt4 styles, qscintilla and PyQt4... Then followed the link on the plugins which stated: The Qt library and all plugins are built using a build key. The build key in the Qt library is examined against the build key in the plugin, and if they match, the plugin is loaded. If the build keys do not match, then the Qt library refuses to load the plugin. So how do I find all the installed qt plugins on my system and check their build keys? TIA, Roy I saw the same message on qt-4.5.1 and I just ran revdep-rebuild -i and it said all was fine. It has only been a few hours since the upgrade but everything is working so far. I did however go to single user then back up to default runlevel just to make sure. I wasn't sure if just restarting X was enough or not. Dale :-) :-)
