Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. LABEL=boot/bootext2noatime1 2 LABEL=root

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Thursday 18 November 2010 22:41:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: With all these changes it's hard to give firm advice, except to say this: If conf-update wants to make changes to package categories, and eix on your machine gives the same new ones as the new config file, then make the change.

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 05:14:26 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu writes: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: You don't have to chroot to run fsck. You can just boot from the LiveCD and run `fsck -o -p -t -i -o -n -s /dev/sda1`. I feel a bit more

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:14:13 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: This is not about ipv6 or hal or dbus in particular. My approach is to only have the bare minimum necessary flags, and not allow *ANY NEW AND UNNECESSARY OPTIONAL* flags. Any additional extra stuff involves additional bloat and

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:14:26 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: So is it now an appropriate time for me to run an emerge -e world It shouldn't do any harm. I do not mind taking this machine offline for the few days of the emerge. There's no need for that, just set PORTAGE_NICENESS=19 in

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 01:34:15 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: Blaming the devs for your broken modem/router is rather unfair. If you'd known it was unable to handle IPv6 correctly, why didn't you set the flag accordingly? My ISP didn't support ipv6 at that time. They're now running a beta

Re: [gentoo-user] Kernel multitasking improvement

2010-11-19 Thread Petri Rosenström
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 1:48 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 01:36 on Friday 19 November 2010, Daniel D Jones did opine thusly: Has anyone running Gentoo tried this?  If so, what were your results?

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Dale
Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 22:14:13 -0500, Walter Dnes wrote: This is not about ipv6 or hal or dbus in particular. My approach is to only have the bare minimum necessary flags, and not allow *ANY NEW AND UNNECESSARY OPTIONAL* flags. Any additional extra stuff involves

Re: [gentoo-user] tmux vs. screen

2010-11-19 Thread Jesús J . Guerrero Botella
These days tmux seems somewhat more actively developed, this might be a subjective appreciation, though. But at least the tmux mailing list seems more active. I am subscribed to both of them. The feature that made me switch from screen to tmux back in the days was vertical splitting, which just

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Marius Vaitiekunas
Hi, One question about ext4. Is it possible to resize partition without unmounting it like on reiserfs filesystem? On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 11:04 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.comwrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly:

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 09:04:26 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 03:44 on Friday 19 November 2010, Walter Dnes did opine thusly: On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 10:20:52PM -0600, Dale wrote This is mine and it worked when I rebooted a bit ago. LABEL=boot

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:42:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Developers of any sort have to be in the upper-IQ range of humanity (otherwise they couldn't develop shit) Ah! Now I know where it came from... -- Rgds Peter. Linux Counter 5290, 1994-04-23.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Thursday 18 November 2010 13:37:39 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Thu, 18 Nov 2010 14:33:45 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: One could actually argue that the profits of pubs are reduced because then the men don't take the women to the pubs. And that the pubs then miss half of their customers.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 04:55:23 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-18, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com wrote: On Thursday 18 November 2010 15:48:23 Grant Edwards wrote: You can adjust synaptics changing the configuration on the /etc/hal/fdi/policy/11-x11-synaptics.fdi file. man 4 synaptic

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:06 on Friday 19 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Thursday 18 November 2010 22:41:49 Alan McKinnon wrote: With all these changes it's hard to give firm advice, except to say this: If conf-update wants to make changes to package categories, and

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/portage/package.use/java

2010-11-19 Thread Gary Golden
On 11/18/2010 08:52 PM, Mike Edenfield wrote: Is there something special about the file name /etc/portage/package.use/java ? For some reason, if I create this file to hold USE flags for my java packages, bash tries to source it when I log in. As far as I can tell this is the only filename

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:49 on Friday 19 November 2010, Marius Vaitiekunas did opine thusly: Hi, One question about ext4. Is it possible to resize partition without unmounting it like on reiserfs filesystem? Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com writes: On Friday 19 November 2010 05:14:26 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu writes: Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk writes: You don't have to chroot to run fsck. You can just boot from the LiveCD and run `fsck -o -p -t -i -o -n

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:14:26 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: So is it now an appropriate time for me to run an emerge -e world It shouldn't do any harm. I do not mind taking this machine offline for the few days of the emerge. There's no need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:07 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:42:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Developers of any sort have to be in the upper-IQ range of humanity (otherwise they couldn't develop shit) Ah! Now I know where

[gentoo-user] proftpd issue after openssl update

2010-11-19 Thread Alexander Tiurin
hi! After the latest update to openssl-1.0.0b-r1 and running revdep-rebuild and /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I get this messages: # revdep-rebuild -i . ==cut== . * Collecting complete LD_LIBRARY_PATH * Generated new 2_ldpath.rr * Checking dynamic linking consistency [ 100% ] * Dynamic

[gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: The bit where you use a LiveCD Well, I'll leave the old disk in place for now and just put ext4 on the new disk as /usr/local2. That way I can move from system to system and it is just going to house video files of all sorts. If ext4 messes

Re: [gentoo-user] proftpd issue after openssl update

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:55 on Friday 19 November 2010, Alexander Tiurin did opine thusly: hi! After the latest update to openssl-1.0.0b-r1 and running revdep-rebuild and /etc/init.d/proftpd restart I get this messages: # revdep-rebuild -i . ==cut== . * Collecting

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X crashing

2010-11-19 Thread Jacques Montier
-- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Le 18/11/2010 23:55, Mick a gentiment tapote: On Wednesday 17 November 2010 17:27:28 Jacques Montier wrote: Le 17/11/2010 18:07, walt a écrit : On 11/17/2010 07:17 AM, Jacques Montier wrote: Hi all, I use an astronomical open

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:07:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent Unix filesystems support this, I think xfs is the only one in common use that doesn't. XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to shrink a

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: Also primary partitions which he does not seem to be using at all have a slight edge over logical. Do you have any data on this? I generally use all logical partitions but could be persuaded to rethink. -- Neil Bothwick Top Oxymorons Number

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:56 on Friday 19 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Any good recommendations on on the Internet Traffic status? The net looks horrible here: http://www.internettrafficreport.com/main.htm Yuck, that sux. Down here at the tip of Africa, we didn't

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 16:41 on Friday 19 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 14:07:54 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Yes, you can grow a mounted filesystem, just not shrink it. Most decent Unix filesystems support this, I think xfs is the only one in

[gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Hi all, Haven't had much luck finding this info: If I reboot this machine and start KDE, Nepomuk starts a rather long-lived index of my home directory. It takes up about 30-40% cpu and lasts as much as 15 minutes sometimes. This is annoying because after a reboot I usually want to catch up on

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 13:41:32 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 13:07 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Wednesday 17 November 2010 22:42:52 Alan McKinnon wrote: Developers of any sort have to be in the upper-IQ range of humanity

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:18 on Friday 19 November 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: On 11/19/2010 04:37 AM, Adam Carter wrote: 2.6.38 should contain a ~200 line patch that makes a huge difference to desktop responsiveness under load; Tests done by Mike show the maximum

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: How to configure thochpad sensitivity (using hal)?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:28 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Friday 19 November 2010 13:41:32 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 13:07 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Wednesday 17 November 2010

[gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Nuno J. Silva
Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have a few caveats. [...] Now just rsync everything

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: Also primary partitions which he does not seem to be using at all have a slight edge over logical. Do you have any data on this? I generally use all logical partitions but could be

[gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now

2010-11-19 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/19/2010 05:36 PM, Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 17:18 on Friday 19 November 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: On 11/19/2010 04:37 AM, Adam Carter wrote: 2.6.38 should contain a ~200 line patch that makes a huge difference to desktop responsiveness under

Re: [gentoo-user] how to rebuild gentoo on a somewhat different hardware

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:06 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Helmut Jarausch did opine thusly: On 11/16/10 10:56:29, Alan McKinnon wrote: Backup your portage related data and re-install. Seriously - you know you are looking at doing emerge -e world and will need to fiddle

[gentoo-user] [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and my brain is stuck. It's time to start pruning old stuff from the website I run, which has 2200 files in 200 directories. I'm trying to find old images like this: find .

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Haven't had much luck finding this info: If I reboot this machine and start KDE, Nepomuk starts a rather long-lived index of my home directory. It takes up about 30-40% cpu and lasts as much as 15 minutes

[gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Nuno J. Silva
nunojsi...@ist.utl.pt (Nuno J. Silva) writes: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want to migrate to a 2T Sata disk. This is simple, but, I have

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and my brain is stuck. It's time to start pruning old stuff from the website I run, which has 2200 files in

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 15:28 on Tuesday 16 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On 16 November 2010 09:00, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 15.11.2010 23:50, schrieb Mick: Thanks Stefan, I'm afraid I'm still getting the same problem: rsync: opendir

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Paul Hartman
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 10:29 AM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and my brain is stuck. It's time to start pruning old stuff from the website I run, which

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 16:40:37 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and my brain is stuck. It's time to start

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:29 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and my brain is stuck. It's time to start pruning old stuff from the

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Mark Knecht
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:14:26 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: So is it now an appropriate time for me to run an    emerge -e world It shouldn't do any harm. I do not mind taking

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-19, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 19:18 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Friday 19 November 2010 16:40:37 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 19:18 on Friday 19 November 2010, Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: On Friday 19 November 2010 16:40:37 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Hello list, Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:55 on Friday 19 November 2010, Nuno J. Silva did opine thusly: Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com writes: Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Wednesday 17 November 2010, James did opine thusly: Hello, I have a ~250 gig sata disk I want

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 19 November 2010 16:40:37 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: Just to expose my ignorance again, would someone lift my blinkers please? I'm recovering from an infection and

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread BRM
- Original Message From: Paul Hartman paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Sent: Fri, November 19, 2010 11:31:39 AM Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it? On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Allan Gottlieb
Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com writes: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 5:38 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 00:14:26 -0500, Allan Gottlieb wrote: So is it now an appropriate time for me to run an    emerge -e world It

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread David W Noon
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote: Also primary partitions which he does not seem to be using at

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Stroller
On 19/11/2010, at 5:53pm, Grant Edwards wrote: ... OK, but I still don't see how that finds old image files, but whatever. I assume he's finding *all* image files, then searching himself for old ones. This seems obvious to me, but maybe I'm missing something? Stroller.

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-19, Stroller strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk wrote: On 19/11/2010, at 5:53pm, Grant Edwards wrote: ... OK, but I still don't see how that finds old image files, but whatever. I assume he's finding *all* image files, then searching himself for old ones. This seems obvious to me,

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:31 on Friday 19 November 2010, Paul Hartman did opine thusly: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 9:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Haven't had much luck finding this info: If I reboot this machine and start KDE, Nepomuk starts a

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:13 on Friday 19 November 2010, BRM did opine thusly: My guess is that it scans every time you restart to be sure nothing changed while it was shutdown. It doesn't know if you've dual-booted, logged into xfce, mounted the disk in another machine, had

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 20:54 on Friday 19 November 2010, Allan Gottlieb did opine thusly: It seems, however, that you're still going down the path of emerge -e @world. Why is that? If it's just to be confident that everything is back to the way it should be then I understand

[gentoo-user] Advice for System monitor + Intrusion Detection tools?

2010-11-19 Thread Fatih Tümen
Hi, I just want to beware of anything unusual instantly, preferably by email. This is a single or two user laptop. Here are the few I gave a shot: Logsentry is very simple and easy to use with its plain rule files and check script. It just works out of the box with almost zero configuration. I

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for System monitor + Intrusion Detection tools?

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 22:45 on Friday 19 November 2010, Fatih Tümen did opine thusly: Hi, I just want to beware of anything unusual instantly, preferably by email. This is a single or two user laptop. Here are the few I gave a shot: Logsentry is very simple and easy to use

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now

2010-11-19 Thread Willie Wong
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:36:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Prevailing opinion on /. That is a strange sentence itself. To see Alan deferring to the higher authority of the collective wisdom of /. is... well... surprising. W -- Willie W. Wong

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:28 on Friday 19 November 2010, Willie Wong did opine thusly: On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 05:36:05PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Prevailing opinion on /. That is a strange sentence itself. To see Alan deferring to the higher authority of the collective wisdom

Re: [gentoo-user] time for an emerge -e world?

2010-11-19 Thread Dale
Alan McKinnon wrote: Sounds like the big guns approach, can be valid at times. I'm usually the first one to chip in about emerge -e world being stupid when someone reads the gcc upgrade guide, but sometimes you have a box that just will not fix itself despite hours of troubleshooting. In a case

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: FYI - 2.6.38 desktop responsiveness patch + how to do it now

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 18:03 on Friday 19 November 2010, Nikos Chantziaras did opine thusly: Perhaps distros will pick up on this and offer other criteria, maybe something like a profile selectable at boot-time or maybe even runtime. What I would like to see is flash goes into

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X crashing

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 14:25:57 Jacques Montier wrote: -- Jacques Site web https://sites.google.com/site/jacquesfr35/ Le 18/11/2010 23:55, Mick a gentiment tapote: On Wednesday 17 November 2010 17:27:28 Jacques Montier wrote: Le 17/11/2010 18:07, walt a écrit : On 11/17/2010 07:17

Re: [gentoo-user] Advice for System monitor + Intrusion Detection tools?

2010-11-19 Thread Stroller
On 19/11/2010, at 8:45pm, Fatih Tümen wrote: I just want to beware of anything unusual instantly, preferably by email. This is a single or two user laptop. I've been meaning for some time to look for something like this myself. I'm personally only interested in messages from the RAID

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 19:19:34 David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: On Friday 19 November 2010 14:42:23 Neil Bothwick wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 10:52:50 +, Mick wrote:

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 00:13 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: On Friday 19 November 2010 19:19:34 David W Noon wrote: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:00:04 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels: On Friday 19

Re: [gentoo-user] How to exclude a directory from rsync

2010-11-19 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 16.11.2010 14:28, schrieb Mick: I ran the same as before but changed the path to the one you suggested: === 'rsync -a -l -v --exclude ./System Volume Information -e ssh -c blowfish -l root /mnt/User_WinXP/ 10.10.10.25:/home/httpd/backup' Try it with escaped

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to shrink a filesystem, mounted or otherwise. xfs isn't something I use and I had a niggling thought I might have got the details wrong. Thanks for that. It's quite a

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 11:06 on Friday 19 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: So it seems that I should delete efl, install enlightenment overlay instead, remove any package.keywords on all ** packages (?) that I had set up for efl and instead unmask beta versions of packages

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:03 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 17:04:03 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: XFS allows growing a mounted filesystem, but it has no option to shrink a filesystem, mounted or otherwise. xfs isn't something

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use

2010-11-19 Thread Mick
On Friday 19 November 2010 23:14:01 Alan McKinnon wrote: Apparently, though unproven, at 11:06 on Friday 19 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: So it seems that I should delete efl, install enlightenment overlay instead, remove any package.keywords on all ** packages (?) that I

Re: [gentoo-user] E17 and package.use

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:31 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Mick did opine thusly: For x11-wm/enlightenment I'll have to keep ** in keywords, but switch overlay to 'enlightenment'. Add the enlightenment overlay, but read a few key ebuilds to get a grasp of what's going on and

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:50 +, Mick wrote: Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary and logical partitions and the difference (on a stopwatch) was measurable in seconds betweeen having said

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Alan McKinnon
Apparently, though unproven, at 01:21 on Saturday 20 November 2010, Neil Bothwick did opine thusly: On Fri, 19 Nov 2010 22:13:50 +, Mick wrote: Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary

Re: [gentoo-user] Nepomuk indexing, what triggers it?

2010-11-19 Thread Alex Schuster
Alan McKinnon writes: If I reboot this machine and start KDE, Nepomuk starts a rather long-lived index of my home directory. It takes up about 30-40% cpu and lasts as much as 15 minutes sometimes. This is annoying because after a reboot I usually want to catch up on mail, rss feeds and fire

Re: [gentoo-user] migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 22:13:50 Mick wrote: Short of measuring the latency with some system (which I wouldn't know how) I have experimented with setting the /boot partition on primary and logical partitions and the difference (on a stopwatch) was measurable in seconds betweeen having said

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Friday 19 November 2010 17:53:31 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: What different behavior? As I said, from the command line ls shows the year for any file more than 12 months old, in place of the time. When executed from find it doesn't.

[gentoo-user] Re: migrating disks (from mounts to disklabels

2010-11-19 Thread James
Alan McKinnon alan.mckinnon at gmail.com writes: I hear Zac is very receptive to patches Not to worry, he'll become jaded, just like the rest of them..us I mean Problem is I have too many patches that aren't finished, just laying around. Distributed downloads for large gentoo

Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix broken

2010-11-19 Thread Kevin O'Gorman
On Mon, Nov 15, 2010 at 2:47 PM, kashani kashani-l...@badapple.net wrote: On 11/15/2010 8:37 AM, Kevin O'Gorman wrote: Color me stupid. It was stopped. It started when I told it to in /etc/init.d. Now I have to wonder what stopped it. Judging from the mail that got through all of a

[gentoo-user] Re: [OT] Finding old files

2010-11-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2010-11-20, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: On Friday 19 November 2010 17:53:31 Grant Edwards wrote: On 2010-11-19, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote: What different behavior? As I said, from the command line ls shows the year for any file more than 12

Re: [gentoo-user] One machine sends emerge text output to stderr, not stdout

2010-11-19 Thread Walter Dnes
On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 09:25:18AM +, Neil Bothwick wrote But harmless. The severe delays you noticed were the result of a broken modem/router failing to recognise that IPv6 was not available and trying to use it anyway. The usual fix for such a problem is a firmware update. It's more