Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote:
* Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com [08/09/11 23:30]:
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]:
Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote:
Hi There,
I am trying to install Gentoo
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 00:26:33 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 7:00 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 18:39:21 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 6:33 PM, Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
wrote:
Mick wrote:
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 00:26:33 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
In the case of Gentoo, the dialog is having place in the dev list, at
this very moment. In the case of Fedora (and, I think, OpenSuse), the
dialog is actually over. The Gentoo devs are just going with the flow.
(This is how I
So, can anyone recommend me a filesystem that fulfills my following needs:
Scenario: vFirewall (virtual Firewall) that is going to be deployed at
my IaaS Cloud Provider.
Disk I/O Characteristic: Occasional writes during 'normal' usage,
once-a-week eix-sync + emerge -avuD
Priority:
The 09/09/11, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:44:41 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Would it not be possible to have a minimal /usr tree in the root
partition for udev's use at boot time,
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 04:03:53 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
No, I think you haven't been reading carefully enough. Again:
1. In 2011, we need a dynamic /dev tree. I'm not going to argue why.
2. udev, successor of devfs, which was successor of the classical /dev
tree, after years of design and
Paul Colquhoun wrote:
From my point of view, as an old Solaris admin, point 3) is the
problem. If what-ever-it-is is needed during boot, it should be in
/sbin or /bin or /lib If it is curently in /usr/* then it is in the
wrong place, and that package should be modified. Later in the thread
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 06:55:32 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards.
I think you are one of *very* few that understands this.
This reminds
On Fri, 09 Sep 2011 03:53:26 -0500
Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul Colquhoun wrote:
From my point of view, as an old Solaris admin, point 3) is the
problem. If what-ever-it-is is needed during boot, it should be in
/sbin or /bin or /lib If it is curently in /usr/* then it is in the
On Thursday, September 08, 2011 03:01:10 PM Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:47 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 1:35 PM, pk pete...@coolmail.se wrote:
On 2011-09-08 16:51, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
But the freedom is still there. The
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 10:06:21 schrieb Nicolas Sebrecht:
The 09/09/11, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Donnerstag, 8. September 2011, 23:44:41 schrieb Alan McKinnon:
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 21:29:40 +
Alan Mackenzie a...@muc.de wrote:
Would it not be possible to have a
On Thu, 8 Sep 2011 19:34:56 -0400
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote:
You don't need every possible thing that udev could ever run to be
avialable on /, just the things that are essential. That is quite a
small list subset of the full list of all possible devices:
All HID
Dale writes:
Wow, what a big thread. While I also do not really like udev
requiring /usr at boot time, I also understand that there are some
arguments pro doing so.
But then, I wonder what the big deal is. If an initramfs is now required
for people using a separate /usr, then let's all use an
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the
idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs
will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed, my /boot
partition is only 32 MiB, and that will be too small to
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09/09/11 02:15]:
Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote:
* Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com [08/09/11 23:30]:
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [08/09/11 23:18]:
Moshe Kamensky
Am 07.09.2011 16:06, schrieb Michael Mol:
I believe NetworkManager provides WPA supplicant functionlaity, so I
don't think you need wpa_supplicant if you have NetworkManager. It's
been a *long* time (about five years) since I messed with wireless
configuration daemons, though. Lots of things
Hi,
After playing with remove gnome and kde I have only one problem. When I
try to access my external driver by clicking on the icon in Thunar I'm
getting message unauthorized. What mystical file I have to edit to
restore this functionality which was ok in my other environment than xfce?
Thank
Hi,
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 14:14:40 schrieb Space Cake:
Hi,
After playing with remove gnome and kde I have only one problem. When I
try to access my external driver by clicking on the icon in Thunar I'm
getting message unauthorized. What mystical file I have to edit to
restore this
Alex Schuster wrote:
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think the
idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the initramfs
will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed, my /boot
partition is only 32 MiB, and that will
On Friday 09 Sep 2011 12:35:47 Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
Wow, what a big thread. While I also do not really like udev
requiring /usr at boot time, I also understand that there are some
arguments pro doing so.
But then, I wonder what the big deal is. If an initramfs is now required
- Original Message -
From: Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless Configuration...
OK, so if you restore the two lines and this error goes away, can you then
initialise the device without any other errors?
So far as I am aware.
Assuming that rfkill
Dale writes:
Alex Schuster wrote:
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think
the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the
initramfs will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed,
my /boot partition is only
Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote:
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com [09/09/11 02:15]:
Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com wrote:
* Moshe Kamensky moshe.kamen...@googlemail.com [08/09/11 23:30]:
* cov...@ccs.covici.com cov...@ccs.covici.com
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 10:55 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
On Thu, Sep 8, 2011 at 5:03 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Canek Peláez Valdés wrote:
I htink almost everyone understand this. Regards.
I think you are one of *very* few that understands
On Friday, September 9 at 13:53 (+0200), Moritz Schlarb said:
I don't think so! NetworkManager generates a configuration file on the
fly for wpa_supplicant, so you still need it, you just don't need to
configure it anywhere else than NetworkManager!
Well, not entirely through an on-the-fly
On 9 September 2011, at 04:50, Moshe Kamensky wrote:
...
I was happy to soon... It now boots, but after asking me about keyboard
layout, it tries to find the cdrom and fails, with messages like:
Looking for CDROM
Attempting to mount media /dev/sda1
Attempting to mount media /dev/sda2
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then comes
genkernel --install --lvm -luks all, and
pk writes:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then
comes genkernel --install
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 1:04 PM, Alex Schuster wo...@wonkology.org wrote:
pk writes:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
me too! ;-)
It _may_ be this guy that's responsible for this crap:
http://linuxplumbersconf.org/ocw/users/58
Also:
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
me too! ;-)
It _may_ be this guy that's responsible for
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:41:07 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think
the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the
initramfs will be many times
As I say, I did once. There is no fallback to gcc if icc wouldn't
compile a package.
I know, that the ICC compiler promise to give more performance
However, collect your experience and speak with the gentoo maintainer
for the icc compiler packages to have a fallback routine. Would be
really
David W Noon writes:
On Fri, 9 Sep 2011 13:41:07 +0200, Alex Schuster wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] /dev/sda* missing at boot:
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think
the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the
On 9/9/11 9:39 PM, Tamer Higazi wrote:
As I say, I did once. There is no fallback to gcc if icc wouldn't
compile a package.
I know, that the ICC compiler promise to give more performance
However, collect your experience and speak with the gentoo maintainer
for the icc compiler packages
pk wrote:
On 2011-09-09 13:35, Alex Schuster wrote:
When I switched to using an initramfs, it was not very complicated. I
simply use genkernel. With CLEAN=no and MRPROPER=no, it uses my
/usr/src/linux/.config and does not change the kernel options. Then comes
genkernel --install --lvm -luks
Alex Schuster wrote:
Right, I somehow overlooked this, thanks for pointing that out. Dale,
if you want to avoid the initramfs, what about moving large stuff like
/usr/src to another location and symlinking it? That's a hack, but a
small one compared to what an initramfs is :) Wonko
I
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
Yes Dale, you have my permission! And while you're at it, slap him from
me too! ;-)
It _may_ be this guy
Alex Schuster wrote:
Dale writes:
Alex Schuster wrote:
David W Noon writes:
The more I think about this merge of / and /usr, the dumber I think
the idea is. As I wrote in an earlier message on this list, the
initramfs will be many times larger than the kernel itself. Indeed,
my /boot
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:15 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Michael Schreckenbauer wrote:
Am Freitag, 9. September 2011, 19:24:06 schrieb pk:
On 2011-09-09 10:53, Dale wrote:
Can I slap whoever started this? The more I think on this, the worse it
Yes Dale, you have my permission!
Alan McKinnon wrote:
I'm lucky, I can vote with my feet. Out of 140, I have two servers
that *require* Linux. One runs Sybase ASE, the other runs Oracle.
Everything else works like a bomb on FreeBSD. kthankxbyeudev,
thanksfornotplayingnicely Not everyone else is so fortunate though.
I guess
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I may go the BSD route too if I leave Gentoo. So, my feet works too. I
wonder if I would even be missed here? :/
I'd hate it if you left. In the short time I've been on this list,
your usage habits and history are the ones I've
Michael Mol wrote:
Doesn't Gentoo have a BSD target? The problem here is with udev, which
doesn't apply to BSD, AFAIK. Gentoo/BSD might be a good direction to
go.
Also, where does FreeBSD's kernel stand, with respect to device drivers?
If I recall correctly, Gentoo is sort of based on BSD.
Michael Mol wrote:
On Fri, Sep 9, 2011 at 9:25 PM, Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
I may go the BSD route too if I leave Gentoo. So, my feet works too. I
wonder if I would even be missed here? :/
I'd hate it if you left. In the short time I've been on this list,
your usage habits and
Hi,
is it possible to use an pc101,us,altgr-intl keymapping for the linux console
as I use it under X-Windows without mapping each special key
manually?
Under /usr/share/keymaps I didn't find anything named that way...
Thank you very much for any help in advance!
Have a nice weekend!
Best
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:01 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to use an pc101,us,altgr-intl keymapping for the linux console
as I use it under X-Windows without mapping each special key
manually?
Under /usr/share/keymaps I didn't find anything named that way...
For
Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com [11-09-10 07:28]:
On Sat, Sep 10, 2011 at 1:01 AM, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote:
Hi,
is it possible to use an pc101,us,altgr-intl keymapping for the linux
console
as I use it under X-Windows without mapping each special key
manually?
Under
On Wed, Sep 07, 2011 at 12:26:15AM +0700, Pandu Poluan wrote
So, can anyone recommend me a filesystem that fulfills my following needs:
Scenario: vFirewall (virtual Firewall) that is going to be deployed at
my IaaS Cloud Provider.
Disk I/O Characteristic: Occasional writes during 'normal'
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