On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was
continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's
methods. Stupid, every one. When challenged, they couldn't say how
their proposed new solutions would
Am Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100
schrieb Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org:
On Wednesday 05 October 2011 17:47:21 Jonas de Buhr wrote:
sometimes things indeed need to change in order to improve.
I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was
continually faced with
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 09:12:37 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 00:18:49 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
I remember things being improved. While I was in my 50s I was
continually faced with youngsters' ideas for improving the company's
methods. Stupid, every
Nilesh Govindarajan contact at nileshgr.com writes:
But still not configured, kernel logs say [134356.331426] usb 1-4: bad
CDC descriptors
Any clue about this? I guess the device is at fault?
Just a shot in the dark, but have you considered googling
for a udev rule for your device?
Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:
I've only used it on Ubuntu, and maybe it's just Ubuntu's
implementation -- but it was both complicated and difficult. There
are 10X as many files, and to change anything you edit a whole set of
configuration files and run a utility that
Ugh
Guess if Gentoo ever removes Grub1 I'll have to switch to Lilo or
something else - I loathe complicated, especially when there is no good
reason...
On 2011-10-06 8:51 AM, Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
Grant Edwardsgrant.b.edwa...@gmail.com writes:
I've only used it on
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Well the only constant is change, right?
It is now that c is in doubt :)
The trick is to spot the difference between change for the sake of
change and change that does make sense. This usually means getting
inside someone's head, which
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 07:51:04 -0500, Harry Putnam wrote:
/boot/grub/grub.cfg itself is 111 lines. Its not the most complex
script going but for me it would take some serious study for an hour
or more to figure out what is happening in it. But of course you are
not supposed to edit grub.cfg
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
launching command is /usr/sbin/httpd.
It shows just one process, but when I run something like this:
ps -C perl -o cmd,pid
I get some 5-6 processes alternatively with cmd as
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
launching command is /usr/sbin/httpd.
It shows just one process, but when I run something
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:10 AM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
launching command is
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Well the only constant is change, right?
It is now that c is in doubt :)
ooo! wicked pun!
Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it?
The
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 10:01 AM, Nilesh Govindarajan
cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
/usr/sbin/httpd
I think this is what apache version 1 used. Did the server upgrade
from apache1 to apache2 at some point? Maybe there's some leftover
things from the old days that is for apache1.
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Well the only constant is change, right?
It is now that c is in doubt :)
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:25:04 -0400
Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 11:17 AM, Alan McKinnon
alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 14:47:26 +0100
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:01:11 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Well
Nilesh Govindarajan writes:
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
launching command is /usr/sbin/httpd.
It shows just one process, but when I run something like this:
ps -C perl -o cmd,pid
I get some 5-6
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 11:25:04 -0400, Michael Mol wrote:
Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it?
It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;)
You're right, c isn't in doubt :P
--
Neil Bothwick
Minds are like parachutes; they only function when fully open.
Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol:
Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it?
It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;)
And even if the results a true and not an error then there is a list of
possible explanations. Most of them leave c as upper limit
On Thu 06 Oct 2011 09:06:06 PM IST, Alberto Luaces wrote:
Nilesh Govindarajan writes:
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
launching command is /usr/sbin/httpd.
It shows just one process, but when I run
I'll give that a try, thanks!
On Wed, Oct 5, 2011 at 19:08, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Doug Hunley wrote:
Whenever I launch kde (from startx) I get a message saying that 'sb
Live! 5.1 [SB0060] (rev.7, serial:0x80611102)' is disabled and it is
falling back to 'sb Live! 5.1 [SB0060]'
On Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
On Thu 06 Oct 2011 09:06:06 PM IST, Alberto Luaces wrote:
Nilesh Govindarajan writes:
One of the servers I manage has a strange problem.
Every 24h, someone starts a process shows up as perl in the list, but
On Thu 06 Oct 2011 10:32:14 PM IST, Michael Mol wrote:
On Oct 6, 2011 12:57 PM, Nilesh Govindarajan cont...@nileshgr.com
mailto:cont...@nileshgr.com wrote:
On Thu 06 Oct 2011 09:06:06 PM IST, Alberto Luaces wrote:
Nilesh Govindarajan writes:
One of the servers I manage has a
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
Also, its not clear how one would install a new kernel. Where to put
the information and so forth.
See above. You don't put anything anywhere when installing a new kernel,
just run grub-update and it will be found and added to the menu. At the
same
On Thu, 06 Oct 2011 12:48:08 -0500
Harry Putnam rea...@newsguy.com wrote:
Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes:
Also, its not clear how one would install a new kernel. Where to
put the information and so forth.
See above. You don't put anything anywhere when installing a new
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again when needed)
in order to save a little power and prolong its life?
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not being
used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with
passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it again and
the process will repeat.
But if someone
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:14 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again
Jarry writes:
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again when needed)
in order to save a little power and
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again
Jarry wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again when needed)
in order to save a little power and
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not being
used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with
passion for a week and then you won't even notice. flip it again and
the process will
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 12:38 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:14 PM, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
Would hdparm be advisable if the drive was part of a RAID? I suspect not.
I don't think this applies to the OP but for the sake of discussion
why not include RAID as part of the solution, if possible.
I use
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
Would hdparm be advisable if the drive was part of a RAID? I suspect not.
I don't think this applies to the OP but for the sake
On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote:
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not being
used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with
passion for a week and then you won't
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Hartman
My worry was that if the mdraid daemon saw one drive gone - either
when starting to spin down or when one spins up slowly - and if mdraid
didn't understand that all this stuff
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:21:10 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] How can I power disk off?:
My worry was that if the mdraid daemon saw one drive gone - either
when starting to spin down or when one spins up slowly - and if mdraid
didn't understand that all this stuff was taking
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
app-editors/nano
selected: 2.2.5
protected: none
omitted: none
!!! 'sys-apps/less' (virtual/pager) is part
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Hartman
paul.hartman+gen...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:44 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
Paul,
Would hdparm be advisable if the drive was part of a RAID?
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 3:31 PM, David W Noon dwn...@ntlworld.com wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 13:21:10 -0700, Mark Knecht wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] How can I power disk off?:
My worry was that if the mdraid daemon saw one drive gone - either
when starting to spin down or when one spins up
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400
schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not
being used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it
with passion for a week and
Niccolò Belli writes:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
This is somewhat surprising, but intended and correct, it has been
discussed here some months ago.
Am 06.10.2011 22:47, schrieb Niccolò Belli:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
[...]
Yes, that is a known issue. Just add nano and less to @world with
emerge
2011/10/6 Niccolò Belli darkba...@linuxsystems.it:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
To see your default editor and pager;
eselect editor list eselect pager list
On 10/07/2011 12:02 AM, Alex Schuster wrote:
Niccolò Belli writes:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
This is somewhat surprising, but intended and correct, it has
On 10/06/2011 05:00 PM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400
schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not
being used to it. flip your door lock upside down -
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:23 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
Either way is going to require a non-zero amount of work, while zero is
the amount of work I would prefer to do.
Words to live by. :)
On Friday, 7. October 2011 00:15:23 Nikos Chantziaras wrote:
On 10/07/2011 12:02 AM, Alex Schuster wrote:
Niccolò Belli writes:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system
profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 10/06/2011 05:00 PM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400
schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:23:32 -0400
schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com:
nothing forces you to switch to grub2.
True in theory, but not in practice.
the purpose of theory is to predict what happens in practice. if it
does't, the theory is wrong.
Legacy grub will go away
On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol:
Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it?
It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper limit. ;)
And even if the results a true and not an error then there is a
On Oct 6, 2011 8:10 PM, Peter Humphrey pe...@humphrey.ukfsn.org wrote:
On Thursday 06 October 2011 17:40:33 Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 06.10.2011 17:25, schrieb Michael Mol:
Let's hold a poll. How many list readers get it?
It's not c which is in doubt, but its function as an upper
On 10/06/11 19:42, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
If we have some grub-legacy and some grub2 installs,
why would you do that?
Eventually, grub2 will be all that's available from portage. At that
point, I can either,
1) Install grub2 on some machines.
2) Maintain grub-legacy (and install media)
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Hartman
My worry was that if the mdraid daemon saw one drive gone - either
when starting to spin down or when one
On Oct 6, 2011 9:06 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:28 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 4:21 PM, Mark Knecht markkne...@gmail.com
wrote:
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 1:03 PM, Paul Hartman
My worry was that if the mdraid daemon
On 2011-10-06, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for backups. How could I
power disk off when not needed (and on again when needed)
in
On 2011-10-06, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 15:27:14 -0400 schrieb Michael Orlitzky
mich...@orlitzky.com:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not
being used to it. flip your door lock
On 2011-10-06, Jonas de Buhr jonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
Am Thu, 06 Oct 2011 17:23:32 -0400
schrieb Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com:
nothing forces you to switch to grub2.
True in theory, but not in practice.
the purpose of theory is to predict what happens in practice. if it
David Abbott wrote:
2011/10/6 Niccolò Bellidarkba...@linuxsystems.it:
Here is after an emerge -av --depclean:
!!! 'app-editors/nano' (virtual/editor) is part of your system profile.
!!! Unmerging it may be damaging to your system.
To see your default editor and pager;
eselect editor list
On 10/06/2011 10:06 PM, Dale wrote:
One would think that if it is the selected and only one installed, it
wouldn't try to remove it. Isn't this what virtuals are for? Portage
needs one pager from the following list and as long as one is installed,
portage is happy and doesn't try to
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Grant Edwards grant.b.edwa...@gmail.com wrote:
On 2011-10-06, Jarry mr.ja...@gmail.com wrote:
Hi,
In my server I have a few disks which must be running 24/7,
but I also have a single big hard-drive, which is used only
for a few minutes every day, just for
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote:
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not being
used to it. flip your door lock upside down - you'll hate it with
passion for a week and then you
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-10-06, Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
don't get me started, the suppressed memories about HAL-config or
broken suse-10 usermount may come back ;)
HAL... shudder.
Let's not get started on hal. Pardon me while I go pray to the
porcelain gods. :/
On Oct 6, 2011 11:21 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Mick wrote:
On Thursday 06 Oct 2011 20:42:43 Dale wrote:
Michael Orlitzky wrote:
On 10/06/2011 04:20 AM, Jonas de Buhr wrote:
most of the oh it's so weird-whining often comes from just not being
used to it. flip your door lock
On Oct 6, 2011 11:34 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-10-06, Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
don't get me started, the suppressed memories about HAL-config or
broken suse-10 usermount may come back ;)
HAL... shudder.
Let's not get started on
On 10/06/2011 11:39 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
HAL... shudder.
Let's not get started on hal. Pardon me while I go pray to the
porcelain gods. :/
I'm really sorry, but I missed that show. I was in Ubuntu-land learning
not to tweak system behaviors. WTF was the deal with HAL? What was it
On Oct 7, 2011 12:44 AM, Michael Orlitzky mich...@orlitzky.com wrote:
On 10/06/2011 11:39 PM, Michael Mol wrote:
HAL... shudder.
Let's not get started on hal. Pardon me while I go pray to the
porcelain gods. :/
I'm really sorry, but I missed that show. I was in Ubuntu-land
On Thu, Oct 6, 2011 at 8:39 PM, Michael Mol mike...@gmail.com wrote:
On Oct 6, 2011 11:34 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote:
Grant Edwards wrote:
On 2011-10-06, Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.net wrote:
don't get me started, the suppressed memories about HAL-config or
broken suse-10
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