Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-12 Thread William Kenworthy
On Wed, 2011-10-12 at 07:45 +0200, meino.cra...@gmx.de wrote: William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au [11-10-12 07:40]: I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files sys-apps/coreutils-8.7 shows a file included called

Re: [gentoo-user] SSDs, ext4, fstrim, discard ...

2011-10-12 Thread Stefan G. Weichinger
Am 2011-10-12 01:17, schrieb Alan McKinnon: You asked the drive firmware for a favour - to please check if anything can be discarded and if so to discard it. cue Mafia voice a la GodFather The firmware checked that it *could* discard X bytes and then figured well, maybe it will, maybe it

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam

2011-10-12 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am 12.10.2011 01:16, schrieb Matthew Finkel: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Jonas de Buhrjonas.de.b...@gmx.netwrote: Just because the person is from China, doesn't mean we should assume they're a spammer (following Alan's last reply). that was not my reason to assume it and i think i

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: this is spam (was: Re: [gentoo-user] 回复: [gentoo-user] Anyone can afford information about build kernel?)

2011-10-12 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 12 Oct 2011 02:00:31 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: Ah, not so. Until you work with foreign cultures you won't believe the many varied ways communication can veer off course. In some cultures it's considered rude for a junior to respond in any way to a senior (replies have to go through

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread David Abbott
On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 9:37 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 6:18 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org

2011-10-12 Thread James Broadhead
On 4 October 2011 13:21, Alex Sla 4k3...@googlemail.com wrote: Hi Guys, i got a problem build gconf. The problem is somehow emake again o.O emake is merely a wrapper around make - that line means that there was a compile failure. Thanks for attaching your build log, but please try searching

[gentoo-user] Why does procmail need to know what my mailer is?

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Dnes
I was emerging system and world on my laptop after a gcc upgrade. I windowshaded the xterm on my desktop that was ssh'd into the laptop. All that was visible was the bar at the top of the window, with the title indicating that emerge was working on procmail, item 85 of 95. I went away for a

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than 3.0. Summary: gdm-3.2.0-r1 crashes and when I revert to the 3.0 gdm, I

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: tabbed x11-terms/rxvt-unicode

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 10/11/11 13:58, Francesco Talamona wrote: On Sunday 09 October 2011, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 10/09/11 13:53, Alan McKinnon wrote: For rxvt, a suitable flag name would be plugins Or if there were some package-specific documentation that said, perl: enable the following plugins (written

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 8:31 AM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Tue, Oct 11 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 3:13 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: For me, gnome 3.2 has been quite a regression over 3.0. Weird; for me it works so much better than

Re: [gentoo-user] /usr/bin/[ and coreutils

2011-10-12 Thread Jonas de Buhr
Am Tue, 11 Oct 2011 22:42:00 -0700 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com: On Tue, Oct 11, 2011 at 10:35 PM, William Kenworthy bi...@iinet.net.au wrote: I have been checking my system for some deep seated problems and in the process, ran across the fact that equery files

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, David Abbott wrote: Here is the patch to fix totem-pl-parser with the new quvi api https://386651.bugs.gentoo.org/attachment.cgi?id=289447action=diffcollapsed=context=patchformat=rawheaders=1 HTH David Thank you. I follow that bug and know about the patch. Since I

Re: [gentoo-user] Why does procmail need to know what my mailer is?

2011-10-12 Thread Mick
On Wednesday 12 Oct 2011 16:06:03 Walter Dnes wrote: My most embarressing incident involving linux was one day when I added a cron job, and it started sending log messages to root. Back then, I didn't know that ssmtp made a sendmail link, let alone 3 of them. ssmtp did its thing, and

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay that you have installed in your

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 16:58:37 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: When you do layman --sync-all, sometimes the ebuilds are updated, but with the same version. Try to recompile every ebuild in the overlay that you have installed in your system. At

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I notice that I have the default accessibility use flag on. I am tempted to turn it off to reduce the number of packages involved.  Any downside? Not that I know of. Can

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: gnome-shell segfaults. I remember some problems with gnome-shell and GL from the dri-devel-ML. What video-card are you using? Drivers/version? Is there any other WM you can start, execute gnome-shell --replace in a console and dump the

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 2:53 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 1:58 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: I notice that I have the default accessibility use flag on. I am tempted to turn it off to reduce

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: gnome-shell segfaults. I remember some problems with gnome-shell and GL from the dri-devel-ML. What video-card are you using? Drivers/version? Is there any other WM you can

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Michael Schreckenbauer
On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 15:08:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell would detect that. Well Canek, you are wrong about that.

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:16 PM, Michael Schreckenbauer grim...@gmx.de wrote: On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 15:08:18 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Anyhow, the logs from gdm failing should tell us something. I don't think is the video, like Michael suggested; supposedly gnome-shell would detect

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on /etc/gdm/custom.conf, we should be able to see why gdm is dying. The output is below My flags are: Installed versions:

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem. gdm crashes with Oh no, a problem has occurred unless its gnome-shell use flag is disabled, which could possibly be the

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Here are the logs (update word with gnome-keyring is running now). The update world (sorry for the typo above) with gnome-keyring finished and again gdm flashes the blue curtain of life before having its oh, no death. The video card is intel, build

[gentoo-user] Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Walter Dnes
I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell for some testing. Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell Inspiron 530 Flags: bus master, fast

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:27 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: It's really weird; can I see /var/log/messages (or whatever logger file you have)? With Enable=true in the [debug] key on /etc/gdm/custom.conf, we should be able to see why

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Michael Schreckenbauer wrote: On Wednesday, 12. October 2011 18:02:16 Allan Gottlieb wrote: Actually the gnome-shell segfault is the 2nd problem.  gdm crashes with Oh no, a problem has occurred

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 3:52 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: Here are the logs (update word with gnome-keyring is running now). The update world (sorry for the typo above) with gnome-keyring finished and again gdm flashes the blue curtain

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing versions. My versions and useflags of cogl

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Allan Gottlieb
On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade don't want to reemerge it, sometimes the ebuilds change without changing

[gentoo-user] zram / compcache, anyone?

2011-10-12 Thread Pandu Poluan
Just stumbled upon this blog: http://www.webupd8.org/2011/10/increased-performance-in-linux-with.html anyone got any experience with zram/compcache on Gentoo? Rgds,

[gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell for some testing. Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 02) Subsystem: Dell

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Which sound codecs do I need?

2011-10-12 Thread Dale
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/13/2011 02:35 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: I'm installing Gentoo on an older Intel Core2 Duo machine from Dell for some testing. Checking with lspci -v from the install CD shows... 00:1b.0 Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801I (ICH9 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev

Re: [gentoo-user] can't build gnome 3.2 (3.0 was ok)

2011-10-12 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Wed, Oct 12, 2011 at 6:36 PM, Allan Gottlieb gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Allan Gottlieb wrote: On Wed, Oct 12 2011, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: If it is related to the video card/driver that you use, try reemerging cogl and clutter; it doesn't matter that a world upgrade