Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Cinder
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 22:00:46 -0500, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: One more thing; which profile (/etc/make.profile or /etc/portage/make.profile) do you have? To make things easier, please post the output from emerge --info. This shows all USE flags in use, not just those you have explicitly set,

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 12:53 AM, Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk wrote: To make things easier, please post the output from emerge --info. Neil, Great idea. Output attached. PS: emerge -pv thunar[udev] pulls in gnome-base/gfvs-1.12.3 emerge -pv gvfs pulls in gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1 Thank

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-11 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-10 20:28, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 10/09/12 19:53, Andrey Moshbear wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:43 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 10/09/12 19:12, Samuraiii wrote: Hello, because I broke me PC and I need to reinstall it I'm going ask what should I

Re: [gentoo-user] WM that does not require policykit, consolekit, and gudev

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120910 Chris Stankevitz wrote: Can you recommend a WM that will not require me to enable gudev, policykit, and consolekit? I've been using Fluxbox very happily for c 5 years . It's quite powerful is very easy to configure via text files. I have a lot of KDE + parts of Xfce installed for their

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120910 Chris Stankevitz wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 6:08 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: The problem seems to be the use of static libraries The only place I use a static library/thing is Busybox. I temporarily worked around by adding xfce-base/thunar -udev to package.use.

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Chris Stankevitz asked how to automount a USB stick : A GUI is not necessary. Every time a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that reacts appropriately to those events.

Re: [gentoo-user] Heads-up; bash now uses readline USE flag

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Walter Dnes wrote: I realize -* requires extra work, and I'm willing to do it. That includes finding solutions to obscure problems. I've been using '-*' to begin the list of flags in make.conf forever; I do have a list of the flags I've en/disabled why. The only time I've been

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 04:56:21 -0400, Philip Webb wrote: Why do people want to automount these sticks ? Because it is easy and convenient, something computers are supposed to be good for. I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:27:35 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: The whole problem lies in that the gcc in configure phase is looking for */usr/local/include* and not for /usr/include... I'm not able to find where and what has changed... env | grep usr/local or the brute force approach grep -r

Re: [gentoo-user] Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120910 Paul Hartman wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 4:46 PM, Chris Stankevitz Gentoo is the best distribution I have used ... I love watching questioning what is going to be installed. Supposedly Gentoo lacks being able to just work without thinking, but in my experience this simply isn't the

[gentoo-user] Re: USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/09/12 11:56, Philip Webb wrote: 120911 Walter Dnes wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 Chris Stankevitz asked how to automount a USB stick : A GUI is not necessary. Every time a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that

[gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Nikos Chantziaras
On 11/09/12 01:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:46:14 -0700 Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I love the USE flags. I love watching (and questioning) what is going to

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Reinstall + switch to KDE

2012-09-11 Thread Samuraiii
On 2012-09-11 11:42, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 10:27:35 +0200, Samuraiii wrote: The whole problem lies in that the gcc in configure phase is looking for */usr/local/include* and not for /usr/include... I'm not able to find where and what has changed... env | grep usr/local

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
Thank you to all who are following this. I used emerge -vptd to get some debugging info. This is the reason emerge wants to bring in the ~amd64 to my stable system: Parent:(xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) Depstring: || ( =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]

[gentoo-user] Clarifying using the button to cause a shutdown

2012-09-11 Thread Andrew Lowe
Hi all, I recently did a ground up rebuild of my little media computer. When it was running I used to push the power button to initiate a shutdown. I now can't remember what I had to fiddle to achieve this so that I can replicate this on my rebuilt box. Is the accepted way to do this as per

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Every time that a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that reacts appropriately to those events. This is usually udev, but mdev will also work.

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
120911 Chris Stankevitz wrote: I used emerge -vptd to get some debugging info. This is the reason emerge wants to bring in the ~amd64 to my stable system: Parent:(xfce-base/thunar-1.4.0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) Depstring: || ( =gnome-base/gvfs-1.10.1[udisks,udev]

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Chris Stankevitz
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Questions (3)-(5) This should have said (2)-(4). === The problem is solved in the Ubuntu sense. I suspect that I encountered some kind of portage bug or oddity on the way. I solved the problem by: 1. removed

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 2:04 AM, Timur Aydin t...@taydin.org wrote: On 9/11/2012 6:31 AM, W.Kenworthy wrote: Hi Timur, we need a lot more information: what kernel version in kernel or ToI hibernation are you using genkernel separate /usr lvm and anything else applicable. Hibernation

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:30 AM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 10:03 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: Every time that a USB device is inserted or removed, an event is triggered by the kernel. What's required is an event handler that

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-11 Thread Timur Aydin
On 09/11/12 19:08, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Mmmh. You didn't set CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION: I specified the partition on the kernel command line: ta@bonsai ~/uclinux_2011R1/db1/uclinux-dist $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf timeout 30 default 0 splashimage=(hd0,0)/boot/grub/splash.xpm.gz title

Re: [gentoo-user] Weird hibernate problem

2012-09-11 Thread Canek Peláez Valdés
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:52 AM, Timur Aydin t...@taydin.org wrote: On 09/11/12 19:08, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Mmmh. You didn't set CONFIG_PM_STD_PARTITION: I specified the partition on the kernel command line: ta@bonsai ~/uclinux_2011R1/db1/uclinux-dist $ cat /boot/grub/grub.conf

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Volker Armin Hemmann
Am Montag, 10. September 2012, 17:53:23 schrieb Chris Stankevitz: I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset. Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages and deal with

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge xfce-base/thunar: lobotomy needed

2012-09-11 Thread Mark Knecht
On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 5:53 PM, Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: I installed xfce4-meta and was a little surprised to see it did not come with thunar. When I tried to install it, portage became upset. Question: is it normal that I would have to ~amd64 a bunch of packages

[gentoo-user] new machine : mouse trouble

2012-09-11 Thread Philip Webb
My new machine boots has the basic software installed. Fluxbox starts I can stop it via its menu the keyboard. However, it doesn't recognise my Logitech optical mouse, which doesn't show up in the 'dmesg' list nor as /dev/input/mouse0 . It's not a hardware problem : rebooting into System

Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : mouse trouble

2012-09-11 Thread Paul Hartman
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 3:21 PM, Philip Webb purs...@ca.inter.net wrote: My new machine boots has the basic software installed. Fluxbox starts I can stop it via its menu the keyboard. However, it doesn't recognise my Logitech optical mouse, which doesn't show up in the 'dmesg' list nor as

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:41:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the implications of leaving open a root console, My scripts use pmount and pumount,

Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : mouse trouble

2012-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 04:21:29PM -0400, Philip Webb wrote /etc/make.conf has the line INPUT_DEVICES=evdev , like this machine. Udev doesn't seem to differ significantly. I don't have evdev at all. My /etc/portage/make.conf has... INPUT_DEVICES=keyboard mouse I've checked the Kernel

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Michael Mol
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 5:55 PM, Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 10:41:22AM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Tue, 11 Sep 2012 17:55:41 -0400, Walter Dnes wrote: I goto the root console which is always open on one of my desktops enter 'musb', which is a Bash alias for a 'mount' command; Leaving aside the implications of leaving open a root console, My scripts use pmount and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo is the best linux distro

2012-09-11 Thread Pandu Poluan
On Sep 11, 2012 5:29 PM, Nikos Chantziaras rea...@gmail.com wrote: On 11/09/12 01:12, Alan McKinnon wrote: On Mon, 10 Sep 2012 14:46:14 -0700 Chris Stankevitz chrisstankev...@gmail.com wrote: Gentoo is the best distribution I have used (I haven't used too many: ubuntu, fedora, gentoo). I

Re: [gentoo-user] USB automount

2012-09-11 Thread Walter Dnes
On Tue, Sep 11, 2012 at 11:51:30PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote It's the idea of leaving a root console open for all to access that is the issue, not the commands you run in it. Fully agree that's a bad idea. My system uses sudoers. I.e. in /etc/sudoers.d/001 I have the lines... user2