Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

On 25/07/2013 04:24, Walter Dnes wrote: Thanks to all who replied. sys-firmware/seabios needed the "binary" flag and sys-firmware/ipxe needed the "qemu" and "vmware" flags. It's starting now, and most of my problems are solved. I still have permission problems as a regular user with qemu

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

Thanks to all who replied. sys-firmware/seabios needed the "binary" flag and sys-firmware/ipxe needed the "qemu" and "vmware" flags. It's starting now, and most of my problems are solved. I still have permission problems as a regular user with qemu-kvm, but qemu-system-i386 works. Root can

Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with amd richland or trinity APUs?

I've been running a mobile A8 quad core with a 6000 series GPU for about a year under 3.x kernels and open source x.org drivers. Not a hiccup. On Jul 22, 2013 3:57 PM, "Alexander Puchmayr" wrote: > Hi there, > > I'm thinking of bying a quad-core cpu, preferably an amd cpu because they > are > si

Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with amd richland or trinity APUs?

On Thu, Jul 25, 2013 at 4:44 AM, Bruce Hill wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:11:16PM +0200, Willie WY Wong wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:09:12AM +0800, Penguin Lover tlze squawked: >> > > The actual models are A8 (trinity, RD 7560D GPU) and A10 (richland RD >> > > 8570D >> > > GPU), or

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 23:21, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > >> You mathematician chaps could probably resolve this one nicely for >> yourselves by treating it as just another mangle by Applied >> Mathematicians <== joke :-) > > Careful what you joke about

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, Jul 24 2013, Alan McKinnon wrote: > You mathematician chaps could probably resolve this one nicely for > yourselves by treating it as just another mangle by Applied > Mathematicians <== joke :-) Careful what you joke about. The New York University comp sci dept (my home) is pa

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 22:15, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24 2013, Willie WY Wong wrote: > >> Speaking as a mathematician (and A. Gottlieb will agree with me), I >> would be rather annoyed that they chose (if this is not a misquote >> from the original proposed documentation) to use '/' for set

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 24/07/2013 22:18, Steven J. Long wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> Peace and hugz OK? > > Definitely :-) > > "POSIX 4: Programming for the Real World" (Gallmeister, 1995) > "UNIX Network Programming vol 2: Interprocess Communications" (Stevens, 1999) > > iirc the first is on safari-online; you

Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with amd richland or trinity APUs?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:11:16PM +0200, Willie WY Wong wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:09:12AM +0800, Penguin Lover tlze squawked: > > > The actual models are A8 (trinity, RD 7560D GPU) and A10 (richland RD > > > 8570D > > > GPU), or a plain AthlonIIx4 (no GPU). > > > My question is: Are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage elog messages about historical symlinks

On 24/07/2013 19:22, Mick wrote: I am getting messages like the one below from portage every now and then. Especially, about /var/run, but in this case about a different directory: * Messages for package dev-libs/klibc-1.5.20: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, wrote: > > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > > > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi > >> wrote: > >> > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >> >>> > >> >>

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

Alan McKinnon wrote: > Peace and hugz OK? Definitely :-) "POSIX 4: Programming for the Real World" (Gallmeister, 1995) "UNIX Network Programming vol 2: Interprocess Communications" (Stevens, 1999) iirc the first is on safari-online; you can download code from the second here: http://www.kohala.c

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, Jul 24 2013, Willie WY Wong wrote: > Speaking as a mathematician (and A. Gottlieb will agree with me), I > would be rather annoyed that they chose (if this is not a misquote > from the original proposed documentation) to use '/' for set > difference instead of '\' as it is supposed to be

Re: [gentoo-user] Experiences with amd richland or trinity APUs?

On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 11:09:12AM +0800, Penguin Lover tlze squawked: > > The actual models are A8 (trinity, RD 7560D GPU) and A10 (richland RD 8570D > > GPU), or a plain AthlonIIx4 (no GPU). > > My question is: Are these GPUs supported properly under linux? Does anyone > > have experiences with t

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:46:59PM +0200, Penguin Lover Alan McKinnon squawked: > @set1+@set2/@set3 reduces to: > > all the elements of set1 and set2 without the elements that are in set3 > (/ is difference). > Speaking as a mathematician (and A. Gottlieb will agree with me), I would be rather a

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 24/07/2013 19:51, Steven J. Long wrote: > Alan McKinnon wrote: >> you forgot that shared library nonsense. Every app should just bundle >> static copies of everything it needs and leave it up to the dev to deal >> with bugs and security issues > > And you forgot: -lc prob'y because it's not req

[gentoo-user] Portage elog messages about historical symlinks

I am getting messages like the one below from portage every now and then. Especially, about /var/run, but in this case about a different directory: * Messages for package dev-libs/klibc-1.5.20: * One or more symlinks to directories have been preserved in order to * ensure that files install

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

Alan McKinnon wrote: > you forgot that shared library nonsense. Every app should just bundle > static copies of everything it needs and leave it up to the dev to deal > with bugs and security issues And you forgot: -lc prob'y because it's not required. -lrt comes into play too. I'd recommend a boo

[gentoo-user] Re: Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

Neil Bothwick wrote: > Steven J. Long wrote: > > Alan McKinnon wrote: > > > You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC > > > you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light > > > daemon, can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to > > > m

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 12:28 PM, wrote: > Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > >> On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi wrote: >> > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: >> >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: >> >>> >> >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: >> >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd - are we forced to switch?

Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: > On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 2:04 AM, András Csányi wrote: > > On 23 July 2013 08:54, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > >> On 23/07/13 08:43, Samuli Suominen wrote: > >>> > >>> On 23/07/13 00:46, Mark David Dumlao wrote: > > This would be a lot less of an issue if som

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/profile is gone - how to chroot

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 10:16 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > On 07/24/13 16:34:46, Paul Hartman wrote: >> >> On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Helmut Jarausch >> wrote: >> > Hi, >> > >> > previously and still documented nearly everywhere >> > >> > one has to do >> > >> > env-update >> > source /etc/

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 07/24/2013 09:27 AM, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > I think it's the former. But I've been known to be wrong on things > (lately, more often than not...) > > Just looked on The Google, and there's no consensus I can find. Best > advice seems to be that union and difference are equal precedence so th

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/profile is gone - how to chroot

On 07/24/13 16:34:46, Paul Hartman wrote: On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > previously and still documented nearly everywhere > > one has to do > > env-update > source /etc/profile > > after chroot > > but in recent systems, the file /etc/profile is gone. > > How

Re: [gentoo-user] fdisk: DOS/GPT

On 24/07/2013 12:25, Pavel Volkov wrote: Is fdisk lying to me? It would appear so. If you are fond of fdisk, I'd suggest using gdisk as an alternative for managing disks using GPT. At least, until such time as the support in fdisk can be considered mature. --Kerin

Re: [gentoo-user] /etc/profile is gone - how to chroot

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 9:25 AM, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > Hi, > > previously and still documented nearly everywhere > > one has to do > > env-update > source /etc/profile > > after chroot > > but in recent systems, the file /etc/profile is gone. > > How to adapt the environment in a new system? H

[gentoo-user] /etc/profile is gone - how to chroot

Hi, previously and still documented nearly everywhere one has to do env-update source /etc/profile after chroot but in recent systems, the file /etc/profile is gone. How to adapt the environment in a new system? Many thanks for a hint, Helmut.

Re: [gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

On Wednesday 24 July 2013 Douglas J Hunley wrote > As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and the > use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all completions > are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you could turn each > individual one o

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

On 24/07/2013 14:16, Neil Bothwick wrote: On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:57:41 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: WARN: pretend You have decided to compile your own SeaBIOS. This is not supported by upstream unless you use their recommended toolchain (which you are not). If you are intending to use this build

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 15:20, Neil Bothwick wrote: >> However, kmail sucks and akonadi sucks moar, so define for yourself >> > >> > @suckykde >> > kdepim-meta >> > >> > And add to your world sets: >> > >> > @kde+@kdedev/@suckykde >> > > I see, what about operator precedence, is that equivalent to > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 12:46:59 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote: > > What does that mean? set1 and one of set2 or set 3? Or both set1 and > > set2 or set3 only? I'm not sure how this would be useful but I can > > certainly see how it would cause confusion and problems, but I hadn't > > heard if it before.

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 11:57:41 +0100, Kerin Millar wrote: > >> WARN: pretend > >> You have decided to compile your own SeaBIOS. This is not supported > >> by upstream unless you use their recommended toolchain (which you are > >> not). If you are intending to use this build with QEMU, realize you >

[gentoo-user] Re: Portage 2.2

On 24/07/13 13:00, Pavel Volkov wrote: What is the status or portage 2.2? It takes so long to get out of alpha. Has anyone here had any serious problems with it? I've been using it for a a few years without any accidents. Just wondering if I should be prepared for the worst. I also remember readi

[gentoo-user] bash-completion change?

As of bash-completion-2.1-r1 it appears the eselect module is gone and the use of /etc/bash-completion.d is dead. Does this mean that all completions are enabled globally by default now? It used to be that you could turn each individual one on/off either globally or per user. Anyone know what the n

[gentoo-user] fdisk: DOS/GPT

Noticed something strange about fdisk output. EXAMPLE 1. We see nothing out of place here. It displays a warning. [rondo:rondo]$ sudo fdisk -l /dev/sda Password: WARNING: fdisk GPT support is currently new, and therefore in an experimental phase. Use at your own discretion. Disk /dev/sda: 64.0 G

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

On 24/07/2013 10:50, Walter Dnes wrote: So I emerged QEMU, which pulled in some dependancies. Things are not going well... 1) The following warning shows up in elog... WARN: pretend You have decided to compile your own SeaBIOS. This is not supported by upstream unless you use their recomme

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 12:52, Pavel Volkov wrote: > > > > On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Yohan Pereira > wrote: > > On 24/07/13 at 02:00pm, Pavel Volkov wrote: > > It initially suported set arithmetic (you could writes expressions > like > > "@set1+@set

Re: [gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

On 24/07/13 17:50, Walter Dnes wrote: > So I emerged QEMU, which pulled in some dependancies. Things are not > going well... > > 1) The following warning shows up in elog... > >> WARN: pretend >> You have decided to compile your own SeaBIOS. This is not supported >> by upstream unless you use

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, Jul 24, 2013 at 2:13 PM, Yohan Pereira wrote: > On 24/07/13 at 02:00pm, Pavel Volkov wrote: > > It initially suported set arithmetic (you could writes expressions like > > "@set1+@set2/@set3"), I wonder why it was dropped :) > > Wow thats intresting. What could the / operator possibly do i

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 12:17, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:00:54 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > >> It initially suported set arithmetic (you could writes expressions like >> "@set1+@set2/@set3"), I wonder why it was dropped :) > > What does that mean? set1 and one of set2 or set 3? Or both

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 14:00:54 +0400, Pavel Volkov wrote: > It initially suported set arithmetic (you could writes expressions like > "@set1+@set2/@set3"), I wonder why it was dropped :) What does that mean? set1 and one of set2 or set 3? Or both set1 and set2 or set3 only? I'm not sure how this wo

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/13 at 02:00pm, Pavel Volkov wrote: > It initially suported set arithmetic (you could writes expressions like > "@set1+@set2/@set3"), I wonder why it was dropped :) Wow thats intresting. What could the / operator possibly do in the case of sets? -- - Yohan Pereira The difference betwee

Re: [gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

On 24/07/2013 12:00, Pavel Volkov wrote: > What is the status or portage 2.2? > It takes so long to get out of alpha. Has anyone here had any serious > problems with it? I've been using it for a a few years without any > accidents. Just wondering if I should be prepared for the worst. > I also reme

[gentoo-user] Portage 2.2

What is the status or portage 2.2? It takes so long to get out of alpha. Has anyone here had any serious problems with it? I've been using it for a a few years without any accidents. Just wondering if I should be prepared for the worst. I also remember reading in Changelog that 2.2 remains masked u

[gentoo-user] QEMU setup questions

So I emerged QEMU, which pulled in some dependancies. Things are not going well... 1) The following warning shows up in elog... > WARN: pretend > You have decided to compile your own SeaBIOS. This is not supported > by upstream unless you use their recommended toolchain (which you are > not).

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On 24/07/2013 11:02, Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:17:51 +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > >>> You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC >>> you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light >>> daemon, can run system-wide or per-session and

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Fresh install and problem with net.* init.d script

On Wed, 24 Jul 2013 03:17:51 +0100, Steven J. Long wrote: > > You might as well ask why do you need or want any other form of IPC > > you already have, as that is what dbus is. It's a very small, light > > daemon, can run system-wide or per-session and has the potential to > > many of the IPC impl