Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-09-20, Dale wrote: > >> For websites, I really like Bitwarden.  I remember one password and it >> can generate passwords for all the websites I use.  The passwords it >> generates are pretty random.  For sites that don't allow symbols, I can >> turn that off.  The

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-09-20, Dale wrote: >> Grant Edwards wrote: On 2023-09-18, Dale wrote: >> >>> The built-in Intel video on an oldish Intel i5 at the office is >>> currently driving 3 displays. The built-in video on the AMD at home is >>> driving 2 and, IIRC, could handle 2 more. >>

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: > >> Heck, a link to some good info on that would be good. :-) > https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/-/blob/main/FAQ.md > > https://gitlab.com/cryptsetup/cryptsetup/wikis/LUKS-standard/on-disk-format.pdf > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Dale wrote: > For websites, I really like Bitwarden.  I remember one password and it > can generate passwords for all the websites I use.  The passwords it > generates are pretty random.  For sites that don't allow symbols, I can > turn that off.  The big point, I only remember

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Michael wrote: > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 12:13:40 BST Dale wrote: >> H, >> >> For some reason, I didn't get Michael's email. I see him being quoted >> but don't have his original. I wonder what is up with that. O-o > Assuming you will receive this message, have a look here: > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-20, Dale wrote: > Grant Edwards wrote: On 2023-09-18, Dale wrote: > >> The built-in Intel video on an oldish Intel i5 at the office is >> currently driving 3 displays. The built-in video on the AMD at home is >> driving 2 and, IIRC, could handle 2 more. > > Then maybe I can use the

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Jude DaShiell wrote: > I generate random passwords using dice. First and last characters in > passwords are letters that's arbitrary buys more time. Those should have > lengths over 13 and before the agency I used to work for went to > smartcards and 256 character random passwords their last

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Grant Edwards wrote: > On 2023-09-18, Dale wrote: > >> Well, for one, I usually upgrade the video card several times before I >> upgrade the mobo.  When it is built in, not a option.  I think I'm on my >> third in this rig.  I also need multiple outputs, two at least.  One for >> monitor and one

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Rich Freeman wrote: > > Well, you can, but they don't fit on a tweet. Just my really long emails... > > We're not their target demographic in any case. Now, if Dale wanted > more RGB lights and transparent water hoses, and not more PCIe slots, > the market would be happy to supply... > That

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 14:40:24 BST Peter Humphrey wrote: > My machine was built by Armari, and it has 64GB. Even that isn't enough to > accommodate more than one huge package emerge at a time - which is why I'd > like to see the new feature I've been bleating about. I might ask them if I

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 1:05 PM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > No, the chipset downlink is always four lanes wide. The diagram you linked has 8, but I can't vouch for its accuracy. Haven't looked into it for AM4. > > Again, that

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 11:01:48AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > > > any modern AMD motherboards have any kind of PCIe controller on them. > > > > Here are the

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 10:35 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > > The higher-end motherboards have switches, and not all > > the lanes may be the highest supported generation, but I don't think > > any modern AMD motherboards have

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 09:17:45AM -0400 schrieb Rich Freeman: > > Well they allow you to put larger cards in, but they don’t have the lanes > > for it. Somewhere else in the thread was mentioned that the number of lanes > > is very limited. Only the main slot (the big one for the GPU) is

Re: [gentoo-user] PCIe x1 or PCIe x4 SATA controller card

2023-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Sunday, 26 March 2023 20:08:29 BST Dale wrote: > I looked at a few lists of CPU processors. This is a bit pricey but I may > try to buy a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core @ 3.7 GHz. It has 4 more cores but > clock speed is a little slower. Even just comparing number of cores and the > fairly close

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread hitachi303
Am 19.09.23 um 13:47 schrieb Michael: A couple of minutes? https://xkcd.com/538/  Most crypto nerds have a wrench at home. The gov. can even save those 5$. :-)

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 8:26 AM Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > > BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit > (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. No real "reason" for it besides branding/naming/etc. They could have called it a MPU for Mixed Processing Unit if they

[gentoo-user] Re: Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Grant Edwards
On 2023-09-18, Dale wrote: > Well, for one, I usually upgrade the video card several times before I > upgrade the mobo.  When it is built in, not a option.  I think I'm on my > third in this rig.  I also need multiple outputs, two at least.  One for > monitor and one for TV. The built-in Intel

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 18 September 2023 17:13:04 BST Alan McKinnon wrote: > I did read all those but no matter how you move things around you still > have only X resources available all the time. > Whether you just let emerge do it's thing or try get it to do big packages > on their own, everything is still

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 04:43:02AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > Wols Lists wrote: > > Oh, and to the best of my knowledge, you can combine a video card and > > an AGPU. BTW: it’s APU, without the G. Because it is an Accellerated Processing Unit (i.e. a processor), not a GPU. > I been on Newegg using

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 12:13:40 BST Dale wrote: > H, > > For some reason, I didn't get Michael's email. I see him being quoted > but don't have his original. I wonder what is up with that. O-o Assuming you will receive this message, have a look here:

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Jude DaShiell wrote: > another possibility is use of a dictionary. Find a word in dictionary > note page column and line. Divide pages in dictionary by 2 and either add > or subtract that number of pages to or from page word is found on then on > the new page find the column and line for your

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
H, For some reason, I didn't get Michael's email.  I see him being quoted but don't have his original.  I wonder what is up with that.  O-o Rich Freeman wrote: > On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:26 AM Michael wrote: >> On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: >>> Howdy, >>> >> A

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:43 AM Dale wrote: > > I been on Newegg using their rig builder feature. Just to get rough > ideas, I picked a AMD Ryzen 9 5900X 12-Core 3.7 GHz Socket AM4. Yea, I > did a copy and paste. lol It's a bit pricey but compared to my current > rig, I think it will run

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:43:02 BST Dale wrote: > Wols Lists wrote: > > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: > >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ > >>> (which is > >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad > >>> experience > >>> in

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread William KENWORTHY
MAKEOPTS - for example I have a laptop that locks up (heat) on long compiles so reduce the number of jobs (rust and webgtk). The discussion asks about how to control emerge - appropriate per package -j and -l for the heavy packages should go a long way to doing what you want. On 19 September

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 5:48 AM Peter Humphrey wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:14:42 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > > That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding > > make.conf settings. > > And which make.conf setting might achieve what I want? Careful reading

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 4:26 AM Michael wrote: > > On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: > > Howdy, > > > A strong > password, like a strong door lock, buys you time. Hence the general > recommendation to change your passwords frequently. While that can help on websites, it is

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
(I assume this was addressed to me, though it was a reply to someone else.) On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 10:14:42 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding > make.conf settings. And which make.conf setting might achieve what I want?

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Wols Lists wrote: > On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: >>> I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ >>> (which is >>> not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad >>> experience >>> in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by >>>

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Andreas Fink
On Tue, 19 Sep 2023 17:14:42 +0800 William Kenworthy wrote: > That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding > make.conf settings. > > BillK > > I would argue, that per package compiler parameters is not what is needed, because in the example of chromium 99% of the compile

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
another possibility is use of a dictionary. Find a word in dictionary note page column and line. Divide pages in dictionary by 2 and either add or subtract that number of pages to or from page word is found on then on the new page find the column and line for your actual password. Of course,

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread William Kenworthy
That is where you set per package compiler parameters by overriding make.conf settings. BillK On 19/9/23 17:09, Peter Humphrey wrote: On Monday, 18 September 2023 23:44:50 BST William Kenworthy wrote: per package env variables? https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env Apropos

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
hitachi303 wrote: > Am 19.09.23 um 07:36 schrieb Dale: >> Maybe even a example or two of a fake password, just something that >> you would come up with and how. > > > There was this TV series Sherlock. In one episode they communicated by > numbers where each number referred to a word in a book.

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
I generate random passwords using dice. First and last characters in passwords are letters that's arbitrary buys more time. Those should have lengths over 13 and before the agency I used to work for went to smartcards and 256 character random passwords their last standard was 16 characters with

Re: [gentoo-user] Controlling emerges

2023-09-19 Thread Peter Humphrey
On Monday, 18 September 2023 23:44:50 BST William Kenworthy wrote: > per package env variables? > > https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env Apropos of what? -- Regards, Peter.

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread hitachi303
Am 19.09.23 um 07:36 schrieb Dale: Maybe even a example or two of a fake password, just something that you would come up with and how. There was this TV series Sherlock. In one episode they communicated by numbers where each number referred to a word in a book. This was somewhat also used

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/2023 11:13, Frank Steinmetzger wrote: With so many drives, you should also include a pricey power supply. And/or a server board which supports staggered spin-up. Also, drives of the home NAS category (and consumer drives anyways) are only certified for operation in groups of up to

Re: [gentoo-user] Password questions, looking for opinions. cryptsetup question too.

2023-09-19 Thread Michael
On Tuesday, 19 September 2023 06:36:13 BST Dale wrote: > Howdy, > > As some know, I encrypt a lot of stuff here. I use passwords that I can > recall but no one could ever guess. I don't use things that someone may > figure out like pet's name or anything like that. I use a couple sites > to

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Frank Steinmetzger
Am Tue, Sep 19, 2023 at 01:01:42AM -0500 schrieb Dale: > They have added a lot of stuff to mobos since I bought one about a > decade ago.  Maybe things have improved.  I just like PCIe slots and > cards.  Gives me more options. I definitely know the feeling. That is why I went with µATX instead

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 18/09/2023 12:16, Rich Freeman wrote: This is part of why I like storage implementations that have more robustness built into the software. Granted, it is still only as good as your clients, but with distributed storage I really don't want to be paying for ECC on all of my nodes. If the

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Wols Lists
On 19/09/2023 00:40, Dale wrote: I get it when you wanna do it your way because it always worked™ (which is not wrong — don’t misunderstand me) and perhaps you had some bad experience in the past. OTOH it’s a pricey component usually only needed by gamers and number crunchers. On-board graphics

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Jude DaShiell
On a previous computer, I had an Alien ATX case. The one drawback with that case was only one drive slot for a DVD drive. I prefer computer cases with a few more than that so internal drive sleds can be installed. When onboard cards break, if you have spare pci slots available and spare cash you

Re: [gentoo-user] Computer case for new build

2023-09-19 Thread Dale
Frank Steinmetzger wrote: > Am Mon, Sep 18, 2023 at 06:40:52PM -0500 schrieb Dale: > I tend to need quite a few PCIe slots.  I like to have my own video card.  I never liked the built in ones. >>> You’re just asking to be asked. ;-) Why don’t you like them? (I fear I may >>> have asked