[gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting
Hi All, This has been talked to death. I never recall having any problems setting my system clock and getting it to automatically adjust to the British Summer Time change. I recently moved my fs from my desktop to a laptop. Unfortunately, the time change did not happen - I think that the fs was in limbo at the time the clock changed as I was moving it from one machine to the other. Since booted on the lappy it is still showing winter time (GMT), while the desktop system clock has happily changed over to the +1hr summer time setting. My /etc/localtime is pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC (it was originally pointing to GMT but I changed it in an effort to fix it). My /etc/conf.d/clock is set to CLOCK=UTC. I am not knowingly using NTP, python scripts or anything else to sync my system clock with the Internet/network. Is there anything else I am supposed to look into? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting [SOLVED]
-Original Message- From: Uwe Thiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 March 2006 15:28 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting My /etc/localtime is pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC (it was originally pointing to GMT but I changed it in an effort to fix it). Shouldn't that point to /usr/share/Europe/London? Sweet! It worked a treat. What puzzles me is why GMT/UTC works on my desktop for years now, without any problem. Thank you for your replies. :-) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2006 09:24 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? [snip...] Yes, but GNU tar cannot do that, it can only do one command at a time, either --extract or --delete or ... The simplest solution is probably to make several smaller tarballs instead on one containing the whole of /usr. Thanks for all the suggestions. I ended up breaking up /usr into smaller directories and I have now migrated the fs onto the laptop. :-) However, I tried the --exclude FILE option and could not get it to work. In particular, I had a go with these: === --exclude /mnt/hda5/portage/* --exclude /mnt/hda5/portage --exclude portage --exclude=/mnt/hda5/portage/* . . . etc. === I even used ' ' to enclose the path/pattern but I just couldn't get it to work. :-( What did I do wrong? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
-Original Message- From: Björn Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2006 14:35 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim :set noai and :set ai for when you want it back on :) I checked my vim config file and I had :set noautoindent or something like that there - but I guess a newer vim version probably changed the syntax at some point? Meanwhile, Google is telling me that auto-indentation is off by default. What gives? If like me someone else is struggling to remember all of Vim's commands I have found this useful page: http://atlas.scs.carleton.ca/~youngsoo/misc/vi.html -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USB sync/async mount
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 March 2006 17:29 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB sync/async mount My fstab, if anyone's wondering: /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbautonoauto,user 0 0 Shouldn't /dev/sda1 /mnt/usbautonoauto,user 0 0 also contain async to avoid burning it out? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
Thank you All for your replies. -Original Message- From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 23:42 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? Michael Kintzios wrote: As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2, which is destined to house the /usr/portage directory. /dev/hda2 is a 4.0G partition with only 74M available. How big is gentoo_usr.tgz? What's the rest on /dev/hda2? gentoo_usr.tgz is 3.9G+ and there's nothing else left in /dev/hda2. /dev/hda3 will have the rest of the filesystem (and the remaining /usr directory). What's on /dev/hda3 now? How big is it? What's on /dev/hda1? Can't you move the gentoo_usr.tgz to another roomier partition? There's no other roomier partition which will contain gentoo_usr.tgz as a single file. If I get it right, /dev/hda3 is destined to become your /, and /dev/hda2 your /usr/portage. Have you already upacked the rest of / on /dev/hda3? How about retarring it and untarring it after gentoo_usr.tgz? I'll have a look at doing something like that, although I will not be able to untar gentoo_usr.tgz into another partition (at 6.4G untarred there's just not enough space). what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? Yes, but GNU tar cannot do that, it can only do one command at a time, either --extract or --delete or ... Yes, that's why I was hoping that some clever bash-ery may be able to pipe the lot together. As I have no access to another machine or network until I get back home, the helpful link provided may have to wait. Of course once I get back home I can only tar the directories I need, one at a time. Thanks again for your replies. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
-Original Message- From: JimD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 21:20 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:18:44 -0600 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a way to turn off the line wrap function in vim/gvim? I know it doesn't actually wrap lines in the file - I just want to turn off the visual line wrap in the editor. Is that possible? From within vim/gvim type: :set nowrap I add that to my .vimrc, without the :. While on this topic, when I cut paste in Vim it automatically inserts indents on the front of each pasted line which messes up my config files. I had it fixed some time ago and now I noticed it's back - would you know how I can switch it off again? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] is it toast?
-Original Message- From: Hemmann, Volker Armin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2006 10:45 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] is it toast? Hi, does the stick have a write-protect switch? Mine has - and AFAIR most sticks too. Maybe he switched it? If it doesn't have a switch, can you repartition it with VFAT using parted, or fdisk? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
-Original Message- From: Rafael Bugajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 March 2006 14:30 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Am 24.03.2006 um 15:19 schrieb Michael Kintzios: While on this topic, when I cut paste in Vim it automatically inserts indents on the front of each pasted line which messes up my config files. I had it fixed some time ago and now I noticed it's back - would you know how I can switch it off again? I have something like this in my .vimrc: set pastetoggle=F11 If I press F11, I can go into the paste mode and paste some weird stuff. Afterwards I press F11 again and I am in the normal mode again. I hope it helps you a little bit. Thank you all. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 00:56 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:25 -0800, Grant wrote: Also, if you start with Stage3, you may not even need to rebuild the installed packages, as if it's been a little while since the Stage3 image was created, there will be new versions of everything, so you'd be rebuilding when you do a 'emerge -u system' anyways. Nice. Is there a slick way to determine if there are any pre-compiled packages left on the system after the first 'emerge -u system'? touch /tmp/firstupdate emerge --update --deep --newuse world find /var/db/pkg/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d ! -newer /tmp/firstupdate In time you will end up rebuilding the lot anyway - assuming you emerge -u world every now and then. The problem with the stage1 was that it left some cruft behind in the portage and system. Hence, the build a stage1 using a stage3 install series of howto's in the forums. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] How to tar?
I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. Could you please help with the command/piping syntax? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
-Original Message- From: Michael Crute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 17:03 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? On 3/23/06, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole: I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it. Is there a way of running tar so that: 1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep it in there). 2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage directory. 3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the tgz file is deleted thereafter. Could you please help with the command/piping syntax? Hmm... basics... I would start with `man tar` and see where that takes you. Not very far. ;-) That's why I'm asking for some quick help. I also need to add that I was seeking answers to the above questions in the context of having access only to the new machine and three more partitions on it, all of which are smaller than the total uncompressed /usr directory. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
-Original Message- From: Etaoin Shrdlu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 23 March 2006 17:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? What about doing two separate tar files, one for /usr/portage and the other for the rest of /usr? Then untar each tar file into the appropriate partition. Thanks, but I won't be able to do that within the space confines of the partitions available to me on the new machine. They are all smaller than the complete uncompressed /usr directory. To have access to my old box which has plenty of space to do that, I will have to wait until I get back home in a couple of days. I was just looking for a clever way to do it all in the circumstances described. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
From:: Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar? Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:32:55 -0500 In that case I would create /usr on one filesystem and /portage on another partition then create /usr/portage and mount /portage to it then untar your file. It should look like this: /dev/hdx1 (/usr) /dev/hdx2 (/portage) /usr/portage - /portage Seems to be the most straightforward way of doing it to me. Cool! As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2, which is destined to house the /usr/portage directory. /dev/hda2 is a 4.0G partition with only 74M available. My /usr is more than 3.9G large. /dev/hda3 will have the rest of the filesystem (and the remaining /usr directory). What should I run to untar the rest of /usr (excluding /usr/portage) into /dev/hda3 and at the same time delete it from within the gentoo_usr.tgz archive, so that I get some space in /dev/hda2 to untar /usr/portage? Really, what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense? -- Regards, Mick Lycos iQ - show what you knoW: iq.lycos.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD
-Original Message- From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 March 2006 13:35 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear friends: [snip...] And yet, believe it or not, I did successfully burn an ISO image of the Gentoo Minimal InstallCD (49 MB). It took some effort (same error message) but finally succeeded. Intermittent problems like this could be either due to hardware (faulty ribbon) and, or buggy firmware. If this is a recently developed behaviour I would suggest that you start by replacing the ribbon. Using Knoppix (from the hard drive) and K3B will I guess prove the point. Its surely and definitely a software problem (since you can burn CDs), and has probably nothing to do with Nero. Nero has brought a couple of updates out (some of them free) and I would suggest that the OP downloads and installs them for good measure, if he hasn't done that already. Additionally, he should update his firmware using the relevant OEM downloads page. the above, change media (some CDs just don't work), and last, drop Nero and try XPBurnerPro, its free, simple and works very well. Cool! http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php I'll try it out soon. Also, you may want to try http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download (the portable free version). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus
-Original Message- From: Bob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 March 2006 21:05 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus [snip] As to insert App Name here not running without Admin rights, most of those cases can be taken care of with RunAs. It's better to run a single App with Admin privledges rather than have all apps including email and browsers running with Admin rights. Actually, it would be better to troubleshoot the particular application and allow it write/execute or modify rights *only* to the files it needs to access for the particular plain user (typically some files or a folder under C:\Program Files). It may take some time to set up access rights for all such badly written apps, but it'll keep your M$Windoze box as safe as it will ever be. If in addition you shut down all the open by default Windoze ports (135-139, 445, 500, 1900, 4000 + remote admin) and disable unnecessary/dangerous services and also stop using OE and IE (or at least stop using them with their default settings) you should be safe enough going about your normal business. The above suggestions will ensure that viruses cannot be easily installed (thus protecting users from clicking idiotically on any rubbish they happen to receive as an email attachment) and will also stop most of the trojans scanning the internet for default open Windoze ports. I know it works - my wife has not had her NT4/WinXP OS infected since 1998, despite downloading all sort of garbage. Of course, running Nod32 also helps every now and then, mostly by providing early warnings about mail attachments. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia fails to emerge
-Original Message- From: Rumen Yotov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 07:21 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia fails to emerge On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:04, Mick wrote: Why on earth is libstdc++ playing up again? == /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++ -DEXAMPLES_DIR='/usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/artsbuilder/examples' -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o libartsbuilder.la -rpath /usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/lib -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined artsbuilder.lo sequenceutils.lo structurebuilder_impl.lo structures_impl.lo moduleinfo.lo compatibility.lo localfactory_impl.lo artsbuilderloader_impl.lo -lmcop -lartsflow -ldl i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/libstdc++.so: No such file or directory make[3]: *** [libartsbuilder.la] Error 1 make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 /arts/runtime ' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/arts' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 failed. !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 224, Exitcode 2 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make == revdep-rebuild won't fix it, neither will remerging libstdc++. Any ideas please? -- Regards, Mick Hi, Run fix_libtool_files.sh script using your old GCC version as an argument. Just run:#fix_libtool_files.sh to see all options. Thank you! I thought that this is only meant to be run when moving from one major version to another, not between minor subversions. It fixed a load of links and everything worked fine from there. :) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] install windows after gentoo on two different physical drives
-Original Message- From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 March 2006 01:52 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] install windows after gentoo on two different physical drives On 3/2/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi list, i have a machine with two SATA hard disk. I would like to know if there are some possibilties to install windows (XP in particular) on the second hard drive AFTER gentoo has been installed on the first one, and, if yes, how to perform this task. I would use the most secure option, fisically remove the Linux drive, install Windows, put the Linux drive back and edit grub/lilo. That's probably the best/safest option. Windows has a history of fixing Linux partitions, destroying data and disabling boot from their unknown partition type. It only overwrites the MBR with its own proprietary boot code. I never had M$Windoze interfering with Linux partitions, or partition boot sectors. I believe that the only way to install WinXP on any other than the first partition of the first disk while using the WinXP Installation CD, is to temporarily use the hide flag on the first disk/partitions. Alternatively, create an iso image of a known good WinXP installation and dump that on any drive/partition you like. Then use the fixmbr command from a WinXP installation CD to write the MSWindoze boot code in the WinXP drive and perhaps fixboot to write a new partition boot sector and chainload your new WinXP from your Grub/LiLo conf file. Too much hassle if you ask me. I would just do what Daniel recommends. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 13:29 To: gentoo-user Subject: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults Recently, programs on my computer have been victims of abrupt segfaults. [snip...] Anyone else ever experience anything like this? Anyone have any thoughts as to what the problem might be? The random nature of your segfaults probably points to an overheating problem. I am saying that because if you waited for a while before the segfaulting disappeared, the particular device (CPU, hard drive, memory) cooled down and was able to function again. Easy to test this hypothesis with a domestic comfort cooling fan blowing towards an open case. More difficult to find out what particular device overheats. A problematic cooling fan (CPU, PSU, case) would usually become noisier as its bearings are drying out (a drop of oil will provide an instant fix). So would a hard drive. If the application of a domestic cooling fan does not relieve the problem, then it could well be faulty memory module(s), or a faulty power supply. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 March 2006 15:54 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:23:17PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote: If the application of a domestic cooling fan does not relieve the problem, then it could well be faulty memory module(s), or a faulty power supply. I'm afraid it's a random hardware failure. I've been running cpuburn for the last couple hours. According to sensors, my cpu has reached a max temp of 57 degress C. No segfaults thus far. It's been several months ago, but I did run about eight hours of memtest86 on the memory. Is it unusual for memory to work fine for a while and *then* go bad? I might try a new power supply anyway. For what it's worth, mysterious problems on this box have come and gone for probably a year now. Every time something comes up, it's so random that I don't even know where to start looking. I'm this - - close to building a whole new PC :) No two PC's/MoBos are the same, but FWIW here's a bed time story: I had three incompatible memory sticks on mine which kept failing at random. MEMTEST86+ did not show any errors. Occasionally, a simple emerge --sync was enough to crash the machine and needless to say all these repeated crashes had started to corrupt my fs. Running out of ideas I decided to start removing memory sticks until I discovered that the best result (in terms of stability) could only be arrived at if I left only one 256M stick of branded memory in the box. That was despite the fact that the MoBo manual said you could mix 'n match memory modules without any adverse effect on performance... :p In case you're suffering from the same problem, check whether a crash is more likely if them machine is about to switch to the next bank of memory/swap. Mine invariably crashed most times it was getting ready to swap data to the hard drive, or in any case as soon as it had used all the memory on the first stick. What drove me insane with this fault was that it would only crash once and thereafter it was often good until the next reboot. Also, if the transition from the first memory stick to the second or swap space, was caused by an application engaging in aggressive resource usage (e.g. Opera loading font files when it hits a website with Chinese characters) a crash was guaranteed. Slowly building up to it during a large emerge session would not cause any crashes. I hope this helps. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?
-Original Message- From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 February 2006 11:55 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window? Hi, On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:49 + Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't know if I am asking too much here, but is there a way to: 1. Continue with all messages shown in tty12 as per default syslog-ng configuration. 2. Also show all/some messages to xconsole. 3. Do not pipe everything to console during/after boot - the default messages there are adequate for my liking. Perhaps I am a bit confused: what is the relationship between /dev/console and xconsole? Ah, the xconsole program man page explains it: By default, xconsole reads from /dev/console. I didn't knew that. What you want to archieve is more like the solution debian uses. I'll post it here but I haven't tried it out so I cannot promise that it works: syslog-ng.conf: ---snip--- destination xconsole { pipe(/dev/xconsole); }; destination terminal { file(/dev/tty12); }; log { source(src); destination(xconsole); } log { source(src); destination(terminal); } ---snip--- /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0: ---snip--- xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn fixed -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole ---snip--- That should do what you want to archieve. Nice alternative to xconsole is root-tail... I've played around with your suggestions but had no joy with them. Syslog-ng came up with many errors and although I tried different combinations I couldn't get it to work. Root-tail is cool but it gets covered up by different windows. Do you launch it as a default by entering a line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 ? Xconsole does what I want it to do, but I would also like to get tty12 printing all messages and ideally would like xconsole to be positioned above the fluxbox toolbar (height wise). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?
-Original Message- From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 February 2006 11:13 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help? It says 400W on the power supply, but at the price I've bought the case, I'm sure its only about 350W. The second and third I've tried. Fourth... Hmm, I'll try to do that. And yeah, the power cord is plugged in perfectly, I just checked. As already suggested the possibility of overheating can be ruled out if you use a domestic comfort cooling fan and with the case open you position it to blow across the MOBO and towards the back of the case. A low/medium setting from some distance is best as you want it to fan out enough to cover MOBO, drives, etc and not race the fans in the case to their maximum. I you still get shutdowns then look again at the power supply. I would heed advice already given - you get what you pay - so go for a good quality PSU with adequate rating for your system's needs. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Unable to locate mail
Hi All, I have not (knowingly) set up my syslog-ng, logrotate, or some other application to send me mail, so I am curious where this little message came from: === Feb 17 20:10:02 study1 cron[12102]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons ) Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 sSMTP[12061]: Unable to locate mail Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 sSMTP[12061]: Cannot open mail:25 Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 cron[12047]: (root) MAIL (mailed 69 bytes of output but got status 0x0001 ) Feb 17 20:20:01 study1 cron[12132]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons ) Feb 17 20:30:01 study1 cron[12144]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons /usr/sbin/run-crons ) === Any ideas? -- Regards, Mick
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 February 2006 10:02 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:25:52 +0100, Bo Andresen wrote: I always copy do: cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-version-gentoo-r? cp System.map /boot/System.map-version-gentoo-r? cp .config /boot/config-version-gentoo-r? make install does exactly the same, and sets up the vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old symlinks to point to your new and previous kernel respectively, so you don't need to edit grub.conf. Hmm, it doesn't on my two boxen. :-( I do not have a vmlinuz, System.map and config links. Do I have to first set up the symlinks manually? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 16 February 2006 16:10 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo make install does exactly the same, and sets up the vmlinuz and vmlinuz.old symlinks to point to your new and previous kernel respectively, so you don't need to edit grub.conf. Hmm, it doesn't on my two boxen. :-( I do not have a vmlinuz, System.map and config links. Do I have to first set up the symlinks manually? Looking as /sbin/installkernel, it doesn't appear that you have to create the links. Of course, you do have to make sure /boot is mounted first :) Yep, /boot is always mounted (just to be sure I won't forget it, I always mount it before I even cd into /usr/src/linux). Running make make modules_install does *not* create any links in my /boot directory, ever. Could it be that there's something wrong with my system(s) - at least three installations have always behaved like this . . . -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
-Original Message- From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 February 2006 20:20 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled? Michael Kintzios wrote: From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the setting.) Thank you! I'll try it again when I get home. I guess this is not available in the GUI? (because I couldn't find it). You mean in Settings Configure KMail? No, I couldn't find it there either. (Time for you to make and submit a patch. :) Sure! And then I'll learn how to code in C++, Python and another few programming languages over my lunch break . . . I mean, what chances do I have? I couldn't even find a GUI option, tut, tut! :D -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Maarten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 17:49 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo Richard Fish wrote: Now, after rebooting, it really went straight, with text menu. It starts loading really fast the system,but all of a sudden, a Kernel Panic says: Warning - Unable to open an initial console Kernel panic - not suncing: No init found. Try passing init= option to kernel This message usually means you are missing /dev/console on your root filesystem. That warning, yes. But the error right after that means what it says: No init found, ie. it has mounted a filesystem (else you get another error-: Kernel panic - cannot mount root partition) but it is unable to find 'init' there. From that, one can deduce the OP probably pointed the kernel to the wrong root partition (ie. /boot, or /usr, etc.) . . or, on a multipartition installation they've missed out some rather important directory which needs to be in / for it to boot, like e.g. /sbin. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
-Original Message- From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 23:03 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled? Mick wrote: For some reason when I reply or create a new message in Kmail the dynamic spellchecking is disabled. Ctrl+N, Alt+O, A. (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the setting.) Thank you! I'll try it again when I get home. I guess this is not available in the GUI? (because I couldn't find it). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
-Original Message- From: Urs Schuetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 February 2006 20:52 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window? On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote: Hi, On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:08:25 -0200 Urs Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Everytime when I startup my computer, in X apears a minimized Console Log window icon. [...] I could not find the script ou option which starts this window. Where can I disable it? I don't even know what's the name of the executable for this window. it's xconsole, AFAIK usually started by the default Xsession script coming with xdm. configuration is in /etc/X11/xdm. That was it! It is in /etc/X11/xdm/setup_0 where xconsole gets started. Thanks! What's the purpose of this window? What is it meant to log - as far as I can tell it just stays empty . . . -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo
-Original Message- From: Gilberto Martins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 13:16 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo Hi again. 2006/2/13, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Monday 13 February 2006 13:04, Gilberto Martins wrote: So good I haven't bet, for I'd loose. 8) Making this change solved the problem. Seems that grub works, but there is something I am not doing the right way. 1) Did you mean Lilo instead of Grub works?? YES 2) Did you try root(hd1,0) with Grub? YES Make sure that /etc/fstab has the correct devices/fs for each partition. Usual error is that people leave it with the default entry e.g. /dev/ROOT instead of the correct /dev/hdb3 in your case. Also, check if you have chosen reiserfs and have not selected this as a *built-in* option in your kernel (not a module). The default kernel config does not select reiserfs. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
-Original Message- From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 12:34 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window? What's the purpose of this window? What is it meant to log - as far as I can tell it just stays empty . . . That depends. It usually just outputs what is piped into /dev/xconsole. If nothing is piped in there, it won't display anything. But in most cases the syslog daemon is configured to output some message classes, if not all, to this device as well (additional to outputting to the log file and /dev/console). So it depends on syslog configuration whether syslog messages show up here. Other programs w/ the corresponding rights on /dev/xconsole can pipe their stuff there, too, of course. Would you mind showing a default/typical/custom (whatever) config file so that I can compare with mine? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Max Number of Partitions
-Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 13 February 2006 01:32 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Max Number of Partitions Um, activate the vg in partial mode and lvols on the good disk will still be accessible -- I think even writable, but I could be wrong on that point. I'm not sure if that's in the standard lvm startup scripts on gentoo, but my initrd includes vgscan -P; vgchange -Pay. Nah, too dangerous for me. I use multiple Volume Groups. Then you can't have a lv that's bigger than a single pv or migrate data between pvs (to switch them out or w/e) using pvmove. You are seriously crippling the usefulness of lvm if you always use a 1 pv = 1 vg rule. Thank you all for the responses! It's taken me sometime to check my mail and they've piled up. :) Two quick Q's: Current partitions 1, 13, 14, 15 and 16 are NTFS. As I understand it LVM is a software solution that works happily with Linux. What happens when my other half tries to boot into WinXP? Are we going to have a major domestic because I hosed *her* computer? I believe Alexander mentioned it, but the reason I have placed directories like /usr/portage into different partitions is to minimise data fragmentation. How does this work in an LVM set up? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...
-Original Message- From: Robert Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 February 2006 09:32 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen... Same problem here- I've tried for a while to figure it out, with no luck. I'd also like to not have it not overwritten with each boot, and appended instead. I think that /var/log/syslog does a better job for what you want, as I have commented in a previous response (not sure if it appeared in the list - it's been playing up lately on my end). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Linksys router problems
-Original Message- From: Ernie Schroder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 21:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linksys router problems gotten rather used to it in the 4 years I've had it working. Any ideas? You could check the default MTU setting on the router. I use a dlink and had to lower mine. The default setting was 1500 and I lowered it to 1480. http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=134898 yeah... I played with MTU as well Then I dloaded what was labled as the firmware version that I had been running I installed that and now the router is completely hosed. Somewhere in my travels, I found a description of how to telnet to the router and update. I'm going to see if I can find that and give it another shot. If not, CompUSA has a router for $30. -- Regards, Ernie Your ISP should advise what is the optimum MTU for their gateway implementation. Mine for example is 1480. At 1500 I get a lot of fragmentation but can still connect. I have found that upgrading the firmware on embedded routers using the provided browser gui can go wrong with some browsers. If I remember right the Netgear routers won't upgrade using Konqueror, or earlier versions of Firefox, but don't mind Opera. Note: you may need to allow all popups in your browser for the upgrade to complete successfully. I would at least try to reload the firmware upgrade after a factory reset. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless print server recommendations
-Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 February 2006 02:05 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless print server recommendations On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:03, John J. Foster wrote: I'm looking for recommendations for a wireless print server with a minimum of 1 USB2.0 port and 1 parallel port. I currently have a Linksys WRT4GS router running openWRT Linux firmware... Does anyone have any recommendations that: 1) Works just fine in a Linux environment. ... 4) Supports a HPDeskJet 5550 printer. (I only mention this because some reviewers have mentioned that the WPS54GS doesn't work with some USB printers.) As a datapoint I tried the Netgear PS121 USB print server and it was failed with my Canon Pixima ip3000 under both Mac OS X Windows. These things mostly seem very flakey Windows-centric and it sounds like you're lucky to have a good one with the Linux Linksys. http://www.netgear.co.uk/usb_print_server_ps121.php Stroller. Unfortunately I have no wireless printer server experience, but the following response may provide some supporting information: Unlike Stroller's experience above, the PS121 works like a dream with Cups and the HP DeskJet 930C printer (hpijs driver). I think that I have written something here about setting it up, but I can't access the link right now to check: http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_930C Also there is a Netgear compatibility list which is pretty incomplete, but at the bottom of the page there are some printers which categorically fail to work with netgear print servers: http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101216.asp Most of these are CAPT and GDI printers which rely on proprietary command sets and will not work with simple print servers like the PS121. Additionally, the PS121 will not support anything else other than the printing function of All-In-One printers. Not only that, but faxing, copying, etc. would probably require that the PS121 is disconnected and perhaps the All-In-One printer rebooted. Bi-directionality between printer and computer is not always supported by the PS121 server - in my setup it is not supported either on Linux, or M$Windoze. Please let us know what you find on the wireless front, although I suspect that it ain't going to be cheap, especially if your printer is of the CAPT/GDI variety (mind you, it doesn't look as if it is). Proprietary printer servers are 4-5 times the cost of a simple TCP/IP PS121. More if you want wireless connectivity on top. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USB issue
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: 04 February 2006 23:26 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue On 2/3/06, Franta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: frankies rules.d # uname -r 2.6.12-gentoo-r10 frankies rules.d # ... a hotplug issue? Well, hotplug as we knew it no longer exists really. Now the kernel sends hotplug events using either udevsend or (for 2.6.15 onwards) netlink. Try cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug. In your case, it should say /sbin/udevsend. However, we are _assuming_ that the system is starting udev. You should check the first few lines of the system boot to make sure. You should see messages like: Mounting /dev for udev ... ... Setting /sbin/udevsend as hotplug agent ... -Richard I'm still on the last 2.6.14 kernel and would like to know any tricks I need to put in place before I run into a USB problem . . . I have hotplug in my rc-update default and coldplug in my rc-update boot. Do I need to change these manually, or will a 2.6.15 kernel and update world sort it out for me? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...
-Original Message- From: Fredrik Lundgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 February 2006 13:40 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen... Dear Gentoos, Is the information that runs on the screen before and after X is started or closed saved in some place or can it be saved or retrieved somehow? Fredrik Have a look at this (recent) post: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153050/ There may be other/better ways of achieving the same thing using e.g. nohup and script? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] USB issue
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: 06 February 2006 14:18 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue I'm still on the last 2.6.14 kernel and would like to know any tricks I need to put in place before I run into a USB problem . . . I have hotplug in my rc-update default and coldplug in my rc-update boot. Do I need to change these manually, or will a 2.6.15 kernel and update world sort it out for me? It 'just worked' for me, but I do run ~x86. The big difference between 2.6.14 and later kernels is that later kernels use netlink for hotplug events instead of udevsend. You can see this towards the bottom of /lib/rcscripts/addons/udev-start.sh. There is not anything special that you need to do to prepare for this, other than etc-update. -Richard Thanks, let's hope that'll be the case with my stable system, too. I was just asking to know if I will need to remove hotplug from the rc levels and then unmerge it manually, or whether such things will be taken care of by the update process. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
From:: Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:24:50 - -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 10:04 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was resolved by changing the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse works OK It still appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking. I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev not found and something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!! For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog. Mick I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking for a boot log, I suppose I need to turn it on somehow. Do you know how? Thanks I'll try to look into it tonight (away from my PC now) and get back to you. Sorry, it's taken me some time to look into this (working all hours at the moment!) Check if your /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf has a destination/filter like this: = #This is the source of the messages to be logged. source src { unix-stream(/dev/log); internal(); pipe(/proc/kmsg); }; source kernsrc { pipe(/proc/kmsg); }; #This is the destination where we want to capture some of the messages. destination syslog { file(/var/log/syslog); }; #This the relevant filter. filter f_syslog { not facility(authpriv, mail); }; #This connects them together. log { source(src); filter(f_syslog); destination(syslog); }; = To rotate the logs I have set this up in my /etc/logrotate.conf: = # when /var/log/syslog gets big /var/log/syslog { rotate 1 weekly size=1M } = Not sure if the above is syntatictally perfect, or a bit crude, but it works on two of my boxen without apparent problems. Someone with scripting skills may want to comment on improving it? -- Regards, Mick
RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
-Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 10:04 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote: -Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was resolved by changing the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse works OK It still appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking. I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev not found and something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!! For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog. Mick I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking for a boot log, I suppose I need to turn it on somehow. Do you know how? Thanks I'll try to look into it tonight (away from my PC now) and get back to you. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
-Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 02 February 2006 12:39 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 10:43, Paul wrote: On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 17:21, Richard Fish wrote: On 1/31/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have added the option line but it has made no difference, I am still deleting 2 messages sometimes, it seems to be completely random, as does the problem with the second copy of a message opening in another window. Also I sometimes click on the terminal program or the personal files icon and 2 instances open. This is very weird UPDATE I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to look next. I have been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could have caused this in the last few weeks. The trouble is I don't know which programs a usb mouse uses. Any ideas out there Others have experienced problems with the latest udev update (unstable?). This may only apply to setups with bespoke udev rules; did you have any special udev rules for your USB mouse? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?
-Original Message- From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2006 18:29 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic? Any ideas how to fix this? new map? When I boot (2.6.14-gentoo-r6) the laptop, I get an error messge about : System.map not found can not check symbols That is something different entirely. When you install your kernel (which normally means copying bzImage to the /boot dir) you have to copy the System.map file (from the top dir of the kernel source) along with it, although this file is really only needed when you get oopses, so the kernel is able to tell in what function it occurs. I am also getting this on my boot script on two different boxes. It started a week ago after some update world. I am about compile the latest stable kernel to see if it goes away. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
-Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 31 January 2006 16:16 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 12:49, Dale wrote: I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was resolved by changing the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse works OK It still appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking. I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev not found and something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!! For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??(now resolved)
-Original Message- From: Ernie Schroder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 January 2006 13:40 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??(now resolved) On Friday 27 January 2006 06:17, a tiny voice compelled Paul to write: Hi all, Thanks for all the help. I changed the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 and I now have the wheel working again. The question is - What has change in the last few weeks to have caused this problem. Previously the mouse had been working with the protocol set to auto with no problems. Paul -- This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux I wish I knew the answer to that myself. IMPS/2 worked for me for 5 years. In my case, the problem started when I finally updated to xorg from XFree. I have always had problems with auto and soon enough spotted the mouse being recognised as ExplorerPS/2 in my xorg.0.log, so changed it to that and have been happy in that respect ever since. :-) FWICR IMPS/2 also works fine. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
-Original Message- From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2006 06:24 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run fdisk /mbr on it. I recently took a hard drive of mine out of a friends computer that was dual booting and that was what I did. Now windoze XP boots up like Linux was never there. I'm not sure if you can do that from the win XP CD or not though. I'm not a windoze person. I don't have and never had windoze, ever. The command fixmbr ran with the WinXP installation CD will reinstall the M$Windoze boot code in the MBR. Similarly the command fixboot will rewrite the partition boot sector if by mistake Grub was installed in the WinXP partition boot sector instead of the MBR. A lot of people unnecessarily reinstall M$Windoze when either of these two little tips could save the day. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail
-Original Message- From: Robert Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 January 2006 00:46 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail I want to send an email with both embedded thumbnail images and external hyperlinks. My email client is kmail. What I want to do is certainly impossible with the kmail editor, however kmail gives you the option of using an external editor. Is there any way I can do what I want and get the result, complete with embedded images and hyperlinks, back into kmail for sending? If not, is there another email client which will allow me to do what I want - ideally one that will allow me to work in a joined up way like you can with kontact, evolution, m-ess outlook etc? I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as an external editor to kmail? Alternatively, would something like Vim/kate/etc. work, but you will need to write your own HTML tags and also change the mail header in kmail to reflect the fact that this is a multipart text/html message (not sure how to do this). I am not at my machine to try any of the above, but please post back if you can get it working. Some times HTML tags are more useful to convey information than plain text. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: any easy way to reemerge kde using equery or similar tool?
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 24 January 2006 16:41 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any easy way to reemerge kde using equery or similar tool? On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:01:31 -, Michael Kintzios wrote: Of course, it will ruin your world file like this because you didn't use --oneshot. If understand this right --oneshot does not add the packages to the world file. I assume that if the KDE packages are already in the world file then re-emerging them should not really cause duplicate entries - I guess the ebuild or emerge script checks for packages which have already been installed and amends the world file accordingly, no? Am I missing the point with this --oneshot option? You are assuming that all the KDE packages are in your world file, they are not. For example, none of the lib* packages should be there. I see (I think). Please bear with me while I am catching up: the script will individually emerge every KDE component as opposed to the original meta packages which brought in with them their dependencies. The latter would not have been in the world file, but by virtue of the script they will now be added - unless of course --oneshot is used. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Captive will not acquire?
Hi All, Just emerged captive-1.1.7 and when I'm trying to run # /usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire just as the ebuild tells me to do - it can't find the path . . . # /usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire bash: /usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire: No such file or directory # captive-install-acquire bash: captive-install-acquire: command not found What's up with this? What should I do next? (other than wait for the native kernel driver to be developed fo rw to NTFS partitions). -- Regards, Mick Blog your life with Jubiiblog ? try the newest Blog on the block. http://www.jubiiblog.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] can't chmod +u /sbin/halt anymore
From:: Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] can't chmod +u /sbin/halt anymore Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:11:17 +0100 Hi, Until now I have been able to chmod halt to let me halt/reboot as a normal user and my last big emerge -uDNav world put a stop to that - any ideas? Shouldn't you be using sudo for this purpose? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync
From:: Charles Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:16:18 -0500 This may be the ultimate dumb question, but no amount of googling could satisfy my ignorance... Is there any difference? If not, why are the double hyphens almost always specified? AFAIK the emerge sync is now depracated and the emerge --sync is the way to go. -- Regards, Mick Blog your life with Jubiiblog ? try the newest Blog on the block. http://www.jubiiblog.co.uk
[gentoo-user] Captive requires gnome?
Hi All, I am trying to emerge Captive but it wants to pull in some gnome dependencies. Is there a way of avoiding this on a non-gnome machine? # emerge -upDv captive These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2 -debug 829 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1 -debug -doc -static 1,326 kB [ebuild N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2 -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl -ipv6 -samba +ssl 1,860 kB [ebuild N] sys-fs/ntfsprogs-1.11.2 -debug -fuse -gnome 742 kB [ebuild N] sys-fs/fuse-2.4.1-r1 375 kB [ebuild N] sys-fs/captive-1.1.7 -debug -gtk +readline 2,825 kB Total size of downloads: 7,960 kB -- Regards, Mick Blog your life with Jubiiblog ? try the newest Blog on the block. http://www.jubiiblog.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 12:42 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:25:00 +0200, Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote: But now, qpkg does not exist anymore, and I've read it was replaced by equery. qpkg does exist, but it has been deprecated, so it is not installed into your path any more. You can move it to /usr/local/bin from its current location of /usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-version/deprecated/qpkg/qpkg Or you could link it? # ln -s /usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-version/deprecated/qpkg/qpkg /usr/bin/qpkg -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] [OT?] ram question
-Original Message- From: Ryan Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2006 23:24 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] ram question My bios will let me change the FSB frequency (100, 133, 166 and 200MHz), and then sets the ram by that number. You could start at 100MHz and work your way up until your machine becomes unstable. Generally speaking I stay with the speed that the memory is rated at - some of my hardware is a bit dated and would not like to fry them for a relatively small overall speed benefit. I ran memtest86, it found errors in test #5 (Block move, 64 moves, 52 of them), but I've read that tests 5 and 8 are sometimes squirrelly on Athlon systems. Is there a way to tell in which stick the error is happening? Or should I just test them each individually? I would test them both individually. There's an application which will mark bad blocks so that they are no longer used by the CPU but I can't remember its name . . . Of course if one of the sticks fails on MEMTEST86+ then I would just bin it or return it for healthier sample. It's not really worth the hassle trying to fix it. On top of everything else mentioned with regards to memory speed and settings for memory parity error checking, I found two things of importance when I was trying to fix a box crashing at random on me: 1. The positioning of the sticks is important - follow your Mobo OEM's recommendations. With two sticks you may need to use memory slots 1 3, as opposed to 1 2 or 1 4. 2. Certain memory sticks will only work happily with other sticks of the same make/model/speed and size. Mixing and matching has often caused previously stable boxes falling apart on me. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.
-Original Message- From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 04:56 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too. On Wednesday 18 January 2006 22:10, Glenn Enright wrote: Some ISPs may also require your alias to be a specific thing, eg your real name, or the same as your email address. Silly but true. Can you tell me where this is? I read off to my ISP what I have in my settings and they said it was correct. Thing is, it works in Kmail, same settings too. That is what is so confusing to me, maybe everybody else too. Kmail has a tab under its settings which you can use to test what authentication method the mailserver responds to. It starts from the most secure and works its way down the list until the server gives a positive response. It may be worth checking that security tab in Kmail (or whatever it is called - not at a Linux machine right now) and use the same method with Mozilla. Some ISP's could tighten up their SMTP policies and mailserver implementation without providing explicit instructions to their users. Things can get more complicated when ISP's start acquiring each other's business and try to amalgamate their mailserver addresses. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Old kernel versions
-Original Message- From: Andres Becerra Sandoval [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 January 2006 10:52 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Old kernel versions On 1/19/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:05:20 +0100, Andres Becerra Sandoval wrote: [snip...] Why remove the current version only to reinstall it? emerge --prune gentoo-sources will remove all but the latest. It's also faster to remove the directories from /usr/src before unmerging them. You'll need to remove them manually anyway as unmerge -C/P doesn't remove the compiled files. Also it doesn't remove the source distpackages, or the lib/modules for the particular kernel version. There may be a script lurking somewhere in the forums, but I remove these manually out of habit. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] emerge world?
-Original Message- From: Rumen Yotov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 14 January 2006 19:19 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world? [snip...] Generally speaking you first unmerge all blocking packages, then emerge poppler (which replaces xpdf). I had missed that! Are you saying that if poppler has been emerged there's no need to re-emerge xpdf? I didn't know that and I re-emerged xpdf. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
-Original Message- From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 03:20 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED] On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option. Huh??? [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2 usermod: invalid option -- a Usage: usermod [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...] [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-l new_name] [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of -a in usermod. I use gpasswd with the -a option. Is that what you meant? No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G if you want to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user. What happens when you run: # usermod -a audio user2 -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
-Original Message- From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard drive, 1 Gig Ram Current configuration: XP factory installed on 30gig partition Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2, 1 Gig SWAP Goal: 1. Remove Suse. 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf Leave Grub Install Gentoo Install VMware. Question: Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a clean hard drive. Option I am considering: Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then run XP as a virtual machine. Please advise. Background: I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN. But consider myself a Gentoo novice. This is my first email to the list. Thanks in advance for any help, Welcome to the list Steve! :-) As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only express my preferences here; yours could be entirely different. I would leave the factory installed WinXP alone. Back up and thereafter remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc. Use Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G. Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive shrinking). Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive access/read/write speed). Assuming you are using the default three partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you want it separately and boot last. Bringing Grub up could take an extra second but running the rest of the system should benefit proportionately. You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to access files from all OS'. With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M. As a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know. A single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your /fstab accordingly). Size: a lot depends on what you use your system for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy applications you're running. Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more than 75M. Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time. Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than 65M. For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary. Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the CPU. A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that sort of thing! 8-D Good luck, -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
-Original Message- From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 12 January 2006 15:38 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED] On Thursday 12 January 2006 03:57, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]': -Original Message- From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option. Huh??? [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2 usermod: invalid option -- a Usage: usermod [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...] [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-l new_name] [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of -a in usermod. I use gpasswd with the -a option. Is that what you meant? No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G if you want to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user. What happens when you run: # usermod -a audio user2 I'm fairly sure the -a option is a fairly recent addition to usermod. I have it on my system (~amd64) provided by sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 but the latest stable (amd64 and x86) is only sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4. Also, when I used -a, it was required to be /in addition to/ supplimentary groups passed to the -G flag, as Walter tried the first time. Oops, sorry, I wasn't at my box to try it out. I could bet that it was part of the stable . . . -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 21:15 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:00:17 + (WET), Jorge Almeida wrote: Seriously, does someone find the talk in the site somewhat style-impaired? My limited domain of the English language doesn't make me the best judge, but some phrases make me wonder about how young the webmaster is, assuming that English is his first language... I thought it had been written by someone who had just been on a marketing or management course. Plenty of buzz phrases with no real content. And a p*ss poor management course at that. Consider this: The traditional model for operating systems is a company request model. Saviour Linux uses a user request model in which users dictate what the operating system turns into instead of a business committee. Now, the users decide what will be, not businessmen. In any business model users (ultimately) generate demand, which if deemed worthy may entice suppliers to provide products/services. In this example the suppliers are (ultimately) the programmers and their decisions are based on manifested user demand and which is evaluated by programmers' personal preferences. The evaluation of what is worthy to spend development time on is a business decision (programming time has a value whether rewarded by monetary means or not). By virtue of the fact that programmers are making business decisions they are acting as the aforementioned businessmen. If many programmers join a development effort and make joint decisions they form, yep, that's right: a business committee! What he is implying but not articulating in his paragraph is the not-for-profit aspect of the business model. That does not change the argument. Decisions of value remain business decisions irrespective of the accounting treatment (distribution) of economic profit. It may after all not be a scam - just a superficially thought through uni project . . . Just my 2c's. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
-Original Message- From: Beau E. Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 09 January 2006 15:13 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Michael Sullivan Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED] Yep!!! Not in the wheel group; put them back and all is well. Now I wonder when I messed that up... :) :) You didn't by any chance use the usermod command? If you omit any of the existing groups that the user is a member of (e.g. wheel) when using the -G option, then the user will be removed from that group. This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option. Easy mistake to do especially if you are working on the console and do not copy and paste the long list of groups that the user is currently a member of. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] How to control permissions on / ?
-Original Message- From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 10 January 2006 15:15 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to control permissions on / ? On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 13:10 +0100, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: 2006/1/9, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED]: Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote: Hi there, Can you control permissions on /? If so, how? I've found that I have the following in two different machines: proxy ~ # ls -ld / d-wxrt 19 root root 472 Nov 15 17:41 / protos ~ # ls -ld / drwxr-xr-x 19 root root 440 mar 10 2005 / I installed a machine a few months ago, oct?, that had the same permissions as the first machine you list above. I never did figure out why that machine had strange permissions, but a number of other people seem to have had the same issue around the same time. I've installed a number of machine since and haven't run into it again. In any case a chmod 755 / fixed it. Did you use the Gentoo installer? Best regards Jose There's a Gentoo installer? I thought that was called Me! Ha, ha! Yes, ME TOO! :-D Although I am convinced that ME TOO is a bit buggy. :-)) With regards to the original post isn't this perhaps controlled from the umask setting in /etc/profile? I am not currently at my machine to check what's what, but I ran up to a permissions problem while trying to emerge sox (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83331). Still not sure why the permissions of the particular directory were not as they should have been on an old installation of mine, while everything went fine on a newer box. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted Windowspartition
-Original Message- From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 08 January 2006 02:07 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted Windowspartition Yep, I asked this a couple of days ago, but the title could be misleading: http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/150416 The trick is to allow others to access and read the partition in your fstab. Setting uid=222 allows the partition to be mounted with r-x rights for all concerned. -- Regards, Mick I looked at man mount (as suggested in the link you sent me) and then only mention of NTFS was the iocharset option. How would I go about setting up a umask in /etc/fstab to accomplish this? Nevermind. I figured it out. Oops! Sorry, was getting too late to focus on the screen: it's umask=222 not uid! (I am not at home now to post my fstab, but ask again if you are having any problems). -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2006 00:55 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights There is, set a suitable umask value. By default, NTFS partitions are mounted readable only by the user that mounted them. Setting umask=222 makes them readable by everyone, but still writable by no-one (although NTFS is usually mounted ro so this makes little difference). See the NTFS section of man mount. Thanks! I've read the manual and then tried different umask options. Umask=222 seems the most reasonable for what I need. I noticed that the different subdirectories and files automatically inherit the allocated NTFS partition access rights. Is this how umask in fstab works (recursively)? On a hypothetical case where you want to give different access rights to all/some subdorectories files, do you have to set these individually the first time after mounting the partition, use ACL's, or what else? Sorry if my questions appear silly - I've always been confused by this topic and its different permutations. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge sync
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Sent: 06 January 2006 10:40 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge sync On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:35:03 +0100, ddup1 wrote: hi why emerge sync is sometime very long, at the step update portage cache, sometime it takes 1mn and sometime lot longer ? Portage problem. Will be better next release I hear. Search the forums and search the newsgroup for portage, metadata, cache for more info. Most often, hangs at 50-51% while redoing KDE. Defrag or moving /usr/portage to its own partition has been known to help. Read some of the posts. My experience has been that defraging /usr/portage brought enormous speed up, but just once or twice. Soon after the darn thing slowed down again. Looking forward to the next portage version. :-) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
-Original Message- From: Peter Ruskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 04 January 2006 22:49 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights I don't see your problem. This is how my fstab shows ntfs: /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0 I'm lost! What does posix=1 mean? -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
-Original Message- From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 05 January 2006 13:32 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights On 5 Jan 2006, at 12:43, Michael Kintzios wrote: I don't see your problem. This is how my fstab shows ntfs: /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0 I'm lost! What does posix=1 mean? From `man mount`: Mount options for ntfs ...posix=[0|1] If enabled (posix=1), the file system distinguishes between upper and lower case. The 8.3 alias names are presented as hard links instead of being suppressed. Thanks! I've got a looot of reading to do . . . (although it's more interesting to talk it over?) So if a suitable umask sorts out the mounting of ntfs partitions, what's the recommended umask and fstab entries for a dvdrw,cdrw and dvdrom,cdrom? I note that Peter R has rw on this ntfs - is this needed for captive to work or what's the trick here? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] k3b access rights
-Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2006 08:31 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] k3b access rights I don't understand what your problem is, sorry. But I think that's because you haven't actually said what your problem is, or whether it's with K3b or general use of the drive. Apologies, I was so immersed in it all that I _naturally_ expected everybody else to be able to read my mind! You don't mount the cd/dvd in order to write to it with K3b (or whatever); iirc the application uses raw device access, but whether that is correct or not, you unquestionably don't mount the device to use a burning program. Nor do you mount the drive in order to play an audio CD (which also uses raw device access, which requires that the device *not* be mounted). Thanks, I think I might have mounted the disk and then tried to delete something on it. Second, for general use (video viewing, game playing, etc) what you most likely want is the users (note the s at the end) option, which allows any user to mount/unmount the drive, as opposed to just one: from man mount: user Allow an ordinary user to mount the file system. The name of the mounting user is written to mtab so that he can unmount the file system again. This option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless overridden by subsequent options, as in the option line user,exec,dev,suid). users Allow every user to mount and unmount the file system. This option implies the options noexec, nosuid, and nodev (unless overridden by subsequent options, as in the option line users,exec,dev,suid). So if I want a single user at-a-time to be able to mount the DVD drives I just enter user? From memory I think I had concluded that adding the uid was necessary for CDROMS and NTFS/VFAT fs partitions, otherwise it was asking for fs type, or was coming up with only root can do that type of errors. Need to try this again and make some notes. The problems that I have are probably two-fold. The generic one is that I am not sure I have the correct mount options in /etc/fstab and that I created the /mnt/cdrw, /mnt/cdrom1 etc. mountpoints with the correct access rights. What are the default mount options and /mnt/mountpoints access rights for DVD writer and DVDROM? Ditto for NTFS? The specific one is that I tried to delete a folder from a re-writable CD: a)while I was browsing it in konqueror and b)using k3b, but it couldn't do it. I'll try again when I get home to see if it behaves as expected after I ensure that it has not been mounted. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] need help with kmail
-Original Message- From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 03 January 2006 16:11 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] need help with kmail Hi, Have you tried to re-emerge kmail or kdepim if needed? Maybe if you deleted something it needed, that would put it back. It is strange that this thing is giving you fits. Dale :-) . . . and run devdep-rebuild to hopefully pick up any broken dependencies. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] k3b access rights
. . or at least this is what I suspect being wrong: == IDE DVD-ROM x16 /dev/hdb 660 root.cdrom 666.root.cdrom PHILIPS DVD8421/dev/hda 660 root.cdrom 666 root.cdrom == == cdrdao 1.2.0 /usr/bin/cdrdao 4711 root.root no change cdrecord 2.1 /usr/bin/cdrecord 0755 root.root no change == This is my fstab: == # DEVICES /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrw iso9660 noauto,rw,uid=1001,user 0 0 /dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 noauto,ro,user 0 0 == BTW, when I mount the cdrw I get this message: mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-protected, mounting read-only. This is the /mnt/cdrw access rights: == drwx-- 2 root root 48 Nov 19 14:33 cdrom1 dr-xr-xr-x 1 suzy root 2048 Jan 2 19:44 cdrw == (suzy is the uid=1001) I would like to have the DVD mountable by other uid's too, but having just user in fstab causes problems mounting it as a simple user. Any suggestions? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27
-Original Message- From: capsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 27 December 2005 21:16 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27 [snip...] I think it should be EOT for now... I've checked if savedefault works from command line of /sbin/grub on different machine (@home) and it doesn't, but it works in config file. Indeed, savedefault is a grub.conf entry; the /sbin/grub shell command you could be looking for is grub-set-default. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] No X interface...
-Original Message- From: Cláudio Henrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 11:10 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] No X interface... Hi there, After a overheat, my computer does not work under X interface. I start my system without error messages, but when I try to startx, the screen goes black, and only reseting the computer the system is restored. Not even a /var/log/Xorg.0.log output is generated. The same problem occurs if I use a LiveCD, I've tried Kurumin and Linspire so far. Could it be that the video card was fried? Was it overclocked? http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2987382.html#2987382 Unless I'm mistaken your video card is not being initialised. If you tried different LiveCD's and it now fails to come up, then hardware failure of card or controller chip are suspect. Finally, from a software perspective I assume that there are no lock files created which are relevant to the video card and which might need deleting? Someone with more knowledge in this area may be able to offer help. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] ssh and tar combined?
-Original Message- From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 14:22 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh and tar combined? On Dec 28, 2005, at 2:04 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote: Mick schrieb: Ideally I would like to connect and tar | scp the directories/ files from one box to another in a single motion. Use ssh instead: tar | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat foo.tar or ssh sourcebox tar -czvf - /path/to/be/backed/up | dd of=target.tar.gz this will ssh into the other box, create the tar to stdout, pipe stdout from the ssh stream to dd, who's default input is stdin, and output the file. Thanks Alexander, I'll try it out when I get home. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh and tar combined?
-Original Message- From: Mariusz Pêkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 December 2005 08:20 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh and tar combined? On 2005-12-28 07:29:31 + (Wed, Dec), Mick wrote: What does not a regular file mean? :=@ Do an 'ls -l /mnt/sda14/sda5_var.tmp and the first character on the left will tell you what kind of file is this. I have a devilish suspicion that I have been trying to scp a symlink! 8-/ I think that I urgently need some sleep before I do something I will soon regret. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] artsd segfaults and emerge noatun fails
I decided to update my KDE through an emerge -uDpv world and two thinks happened. The emerge failed with the following error and also artds segfaults everytime I logon (it won't initialise). Trying to start artsd manually also fails. This is the emerge error: = ast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=prescott -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -Wformat-security -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o noatun -R /usr/kde/3.4/lib -R /usr/kde/3.4/lib -R /usr/qt/3/lib -R /usr/lib -no-undefined -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib -L/usr/libnoatun.la.o libkdeinit_noatun.la libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/common/libartsgui.la' seems to be moved libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/kde/libartsgui_kde.la' seems to be moved libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/modules/libartsmodules.la' seems to be moved libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/common/libartsgui.la' seems to be moved libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/kde/libartsgui_kde.la' seems to be moved libtool: link: warning: `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/modules/libartsmodules.la' seems to be moved /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsgui.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsgui.so, may conflict with libstdc++.so.6 /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::Loader_stub::loadObject(Arts::TraderOffer)' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::stop()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::Loader_stub::traderEntries()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::Loader_stub::dataVersion()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamInit()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::Loader_stub::modules()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamStart()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::autoSuspend()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::StdSynthModule::start()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()' /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()' collect2: ld returned 1 exit status make[3]: *** [noatun] Error 1 make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs make[3]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/noatun/app' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[2]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/noatun' make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1 make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3' make: *** [all] Error 2 !!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.4.3 failed. !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 173, Exitcode 2 !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make = Can you please help me fix it? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] Backups
-Original Message- From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 15 December 2005 19:16 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Backups On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:53:27 -0700, Richard Fish wrote: My personal favorite for my desktop and laptop is using 'dar' with big USB hard drivesbut that's what works well for me. I use rdiff-backup, which is ideal for backing up automatically to a hard drive. I run it from cron, hourly on critical directories, daily on the rest. I then have a weekly cron script that compresses the backup directories with squashfs and writes them to ISO images ready for writing to bootable DVDs. It makes restoring individual files very easy, and a completely hosed system can be fixed because the DVDs are bootable. If you get a minute, a detailed wiki howto would be useful for some of us. :-) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
-Original Message- From: Willie Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 December 2005 00:32 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error... On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:49:29PM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote: Jarry schreef: What does 'gcc-config -l' say? obelix ~ # gcc-config -l /usr/bin/gcc-config: line 632: /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6: No such file or directory * /usr/bin/gcc-config: Profile does not exist or invalid setting for /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 [1] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [3] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [4] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [5] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp obelix ~ # Jarry I think what happened to you is that you didn't set a new gcc to be used, then removed the one that was being used (3.3.6). Nope, I noticed the same thing on my machine this morning. I am dead certain that after migrating to gcc-3.4 and used gcc-config to change to the new gcc-3.4, before I removed gcc-3.3.*: = # gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 # env-update source /etc/profile = Then checked that gcc-3.4 had been selected, but this morning it was not there . . . spooky! I had to repeat the above steps to reset it, before I could update my box. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: dmesg yes fdisk no - new HDD
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam Sent: 07 December 2005 12:47 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: dmesg yes fdisk no - new HDD Bill Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Try disconnecting the atapi cdrw temporarily. Can fdisk see it then?? I had tried that too. And no it didn't make a difference. I can't post dmesg from that since something worse has happened. Spelled out in thread: Subject: Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot So I'll need to get that figured out before retrying the new drive. I assume that you have entered into and reset your BIOS settings to probe and recognise the new devices and their order, every time you connect/disconnect a device from the box? Most modern mobo's do so automatically, but occassionally require that you manually intervene (I know I had to do so a couple of times) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam Sent: 07 December 2005 02:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the last 1/2 hr or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm working on. Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too. One by one, I've disconnected each drive, beginning with the one I've been tinkering with. There are currently 3 HDD and 2 cdroms in there. What led to this situation: I had disconnected both cdroms and connected the new hdd on that controller as single master. Booted up without problems. The new drive appeared in dmesg but fdisk knew nothing about it. I've been using Lilo lately and I noticed a line in lilo.conf that told the kernel some bad info since I had disconnected cdroms and installed the new drive: (On the kernel line amongst other things) `hdc=ide-scsi' That was the same device noted in dmesg as belonging to the new drive. hdc: WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0, ATA DISK drive I removed that from lilo.conf and reran lilo then shutdown. As mach was shutting down I heard those three beeps. Now I get the beeps when I try to boot and no bootsky. Its an intel D850MV mobo and on intel pages it tells me 3 beeps mean a memory problem. Just in case, I removed and reseated the memory cards, also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 256 cards). No change in beeps. I even tried booting without any installed... I'm not sure if that would invoke the beeps anyway, but I did hear them. Its been my experience thru life that usually, in fact nearly always, if you have trouble with something after working on it, its very very likely to be something you just did or had your hands on. I'm still wanting to believe this is something simple I did with the drive. However after disconnecting all drives ribbon and power source, I still hear the beeps, and don't get past that. If the mobo manual says 3 beeps is a memory problem then that's that. MEMTEST 86 should pick up anything wrong with it. On the other hand you may have disturbed any jumpers/ribbons associated with the memory controller. In my limited experience, all beeps that I've experienced were related to either dodgy, or incompatible memory modules. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot
-Original Message- From: Billy Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 07 December 2005 15:27 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot Harry Putnam wrote: memory problem. Just in case, I removed and reseated the memory cards, also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 256 cards). No change in beeps. doh. I totally missed that part of your email. you may need a chip in each slot. I can't remember how your mobo works. some like that, some don't care. So, taking out one memory chip might not even work. however, it's possible that you discharged some static electricity and popped a memory chip. You really need the ability to put those chips in another mobo. At this point, you're going through the process of elimination. In the absence of another machine (and the risk of causing the same or worse due to not earthing oneself onto the box frame first) MEMTEST 86 should do the trick of diagnosing the blown memory module. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] fbsplash and console issues after udev
-Original Message- From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 06 December 2005 00:30 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] fbsplash and console issues after udev [snip...] The loading screen with the progress bar works fine. If I hit F2 to see the stuff going on, here's where it has issues.. There is no background image (as there used to be prior to udev). I have the same problem, whereby the splash screen with the progress bar is there, but there is no background image when I press F2. I do not experience the 1 margin problem though. This probably doesn't help you much, but I have noticed that error message you are getting went away on my machine with the latest kernel. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam Sent: 02 December 2005 15:31 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge I want to influence how vim is compiled. I'm told I need a compile option called: xterm_clipboard. How do I tell emerge to enable that at compile time? I've been told its done with USE flags but it still isn't clear to mw how the details work I'm still not sure what emerge output really means when you run a pretend install and various flags are displayed with + or minus root # emerge -v -p -uD vim These are the packages that I would merge, in order: Calculating dependencies ...done! [ebuild N ] app-editors/vim-6.4 -acl -bash-completion -cscope +gpm -minimal +nls +perl +python -ruby -vim-with-x 4,752 kB Does it mean that the flags displayed are the only ones I can adjust? As I understand it, yes. To see which flags a particular package can specify you can either run: == # emerge -uDpv package_name (just as you did above) == or you could try the equery command of the gentoolkit, e.g.: == # # equery uses gnumeric [ Colour Code : set unset ] [ Legend : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags] [ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ] U I [ Found these USE variables in : app-office/gnumeric-1.2.0 ] - - libgda : Adds GNU Data Access (CORBA wrapper) support for gnumeric - - gnomedb : unknown + + python : Adds support/bindings for the Python language + + bonobo : Adds support for gnome-base/bonobo (Gnome CORBA interfaces)== Of course all this and much more is well documented in the Gentoo guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2 -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge
-Original Message- From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam Sent: 02 December 2005 16:29 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Of course all this and much more is well documented in the Gentoo guide: http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2 Thanks for the comments. But don't be too quick about saying its all well explained in the manual. I couldn't tell how to get at certain vim compile time flags from that. Can you? For example: Sorry, I didn't mean it like that. I meant all of what I said is well explained in the manual. When in doubt I check the different USE flags here: http://gentoo-portage.com/USE Which USE flag will make that +xterm_clipboard This is a dependency flag which I guess can be flipped by first emerging x11-apps/xclipboard. Certain flags appear either because of your default Gentoo use flags, others because of your generic flags in /etc/make.conf, others because of specific package flag settings (in /etc/portage/package.use) and others because they are being flipped by dependencies with other packages. The whole thing can soon get pretty complicated, so it is not always easy to decipher. I hope this helps. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish Sent: 30 November 2005 23:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing On 11/30/05, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is what I get from host 2 (the server): ... IfRequested - Use encryption if the server requests it Shouldn't this line be commented out?? Quite possibly so, I'll try it when I get home. Thank you. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Home Network Printing
-Original Message- From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 30 November 2005 20:14 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Home Network Printing one way you can do this is use the features of cups...for instance, my macintosh has a laser printer attached: the cupsd.conf sys this: Port 631, Listen /private/var/run/cupsd, BrowseAddress @LOCAL, BrowseShortNames No, BrowseAllow @LOCAL, BrowseDeny ALL and later Location / Order Deny,Allow Deny From All Allow From @LOCAL Allow from 192.168.1.51 /Location all this allows all machines on the same subnet as my mac (@LOCAL) to browse the list of printers and allows all from the local subnet to print, well, i've also explicitly allowed my laptop access. on the laptop, I also have Port 631, and not much else. I have NO printers configured in my laptop...default gentoo install. when i'm on the net, it gets the broadcast from the mac and I can print...when i'm not, i have no printers at all. Thanks John, Let me understand this right: Have you installed cups on the laptop? Any printer drivers? When you run localhost:631 in a browser on your laptop, what do you see under printers when the laptop is connected to the mac and what when it's not? (assuming you restart cupsd on each case to refresh its status). PS. An OT question - I am really curious what is the default mac firewall settings. Can you please post the output of: # iptables -L -v -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
-Original Message- From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2005 13:12 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5 Thiago Lüttig wrote: how do you installed it ? i mean, the emerge parameters ?? :D I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5. After restarting /etc/init.d/xdm, kdm-3.5 came up with entries for both 3.4 and 3.5. Some packages are still being compiled. I'll keep 3.4 till all of them are compiled and then unmerge 3.4. If you have an old monolithic KDE install (in my case KDE-3.2.x) and would like to unmerge it along with all the kde 3.2.x packages and exclusive dependencies to save some space, how would you do it? How could one ensure that there will be no apps/deps out there, which will try to re-emerge this old version afresh? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
Thank you Holly, -Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 01 December 2005 13:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing [snip] What I see is: I assume the printer is connected to the server--- but the server only allows connections from localhost (itself), and 192.168.0.2. Yes on all counts. If 192.168.0.2 is not the network IP address of the client (host 1), then the connection is denied. 192.168.0.2 is the LAN address of the client (host 1). If the printer is connected to host 1... well, that only allows connections from localhost (itself). Connections from everywhere else are refused. The printer is physically connected to host 2 which acts as the server with IP address 102.168.0.3 So what I would suggest is that the server allow connections from the network as a whole, or the specific network IPs of the various networked clients. [snip] So if you have more than one machine on the network, you might consider changing the Allow From statements to read something like Allow From 192.168.0.* Each machine has only one NIC which connects them to the router/LAN/Internet. The router (netgear ADSL thingy) is 192.168.0.1 and acts both as the Internet gateway and the DNS for the machines on the LAN. I would rather allow access to explicit IP addresses, in this case 192.168.0.2 which is the client. Thanks for the heads up on the HostNameLookups On. I'll try it tonight - although setting the IP address would remove one more thing for me to get wrong. ;-) -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
[gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
Hi All, I am sure that this is an easy thing to achieve, but for some reason I seem to fail to get it going. Probably because I do not completely understand the logic. The setup is as follows: I have two boxen, hostname1.STUDY and hostname2.STUDY. hostname2 has the printer connected to it via parallel port. The printer's name is Compaq-HP. Hostname2 can print locally without a hitch. I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I set the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept getting errors telling me it can't resolve the address. So I changed it to the LAN ip address (ipp://192.163.0.3/ipp)and it seems that it can now connect, but it cannot find the printer: = I [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Connecting to 192.168.0.3 on port 631... I [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Connected to 192.168.0.3... D [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Getting supported attributes... E [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Destination printer does not exist! E [21/Nov/2005:21:55:49 +] PID 15530 stopped with status 1! = lpstats shows both printers (local and remote): = $ lpstat -t scheduler is running system default destination: Compaq-HP device for Compaq-HP: ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp device for DeskJet-930C: parallel:/dev/lp0 Compaq-HP accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 DeskJet-930C accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 printer Compaq-HP is idle. enabled since Jan 01 00:00 printer DeskJet-930C disabled since Jan 01 00:00 - Paused = Would you know why it can't resolve hostname2.STUDY? Am I meant to add the printer name on the ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp? Regards, -- Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
-Original Message- From: Oliver Friedrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 November 2005 10:58 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Michael Kintzios wrote: I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I set the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept getting errors telling me it can't resolve the address. AFAIR the IPP-Adress has to be: ipp://[Host]/[PrinterName] in your case this would mean: ipp://hostname2.STUDY/Compaq-HP Would you know why it can't resolve hostname2.STUDY? Am I meant to add the printer name on the ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp? So... yes... :-) greets BeowulfOF Thanks, I'll give it another go when I get home! Regards, -- Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
From:: Oliver Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:58:27 +0100 Michael Kintzios wrote: I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I set the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept getting errors telling me it can't resolve the address. AFAIR the IPP-Adress has to be: ipp://[Host]/[PrinterName] in your case this would mean: ipp://hostname2.STUDY/Compaq-HP I'm afraid I had no success. I tried using the address as you suggested above but it says unknown host . . . perhaps I should add it in my hostname file, but my netgear router which acts as the nameserver should know where to go? In any case, when I changed it to the IP address of hostname2 box (192.168.0.3) I got this: I [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Connecting to 192.168.0.3 on port 631... I [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Connected to 192.168.0.3... D [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Getting supported attributes... E [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Destination printer does not exist! E [25/Nov/2005:20:23:14 +] PID 13299 stopped with status 1! Anything else I should try? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
-Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 29 September 2005 14:43 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install [snip] The quick compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98. [OT warning] I wonder, are there any statistics for what WM's do people use? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
-Original Message- From: Pawe³ Madej [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2005 12:25 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow Allan Spagnol Comar wrote: This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to update,install or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you would need to do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that is better to let it do just when updating portage tree :) Holpe it helps, Allan Thx for fast answer. Ok I'll leave it as is, but maybe is there any way too speedup it? It runs on my P3 800 / HDD 5400 rpm more that 10 minutes. Or it is working on every computer so slowly? Be grateful you're not running my PIII 600MHz. If you also are running X with a browser, xmms, or mplayer and updatedb decides to join in, then 20 min to 1/2 hour is a possibility! I'll make a mental note to measure how long it takes next time I sync. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights
-Original Message- From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 26 September 2005 21:50 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights From:: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:19:25 +0100 On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:04:13 +, Mick wrote: Providing some basic information such as what mail servers are you using would be a big plus to get an answer from someone. Unfortunately it's a sendmail setup on a hosted account and no info is forthcoming from the admin. It seems like an mbox style mail implementation. That's all I know about it I'm afraid. You could telnet into the server to see what the software identifies itself as. Thanks, this is what I got: telnet servername 25 for the SMTP server 220-viv.XXX.com ESMTP Exim 4.50 #1 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:39:45 -0400 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 220 and/or bulk e-mail. telnet servername 110 for the POP server +OK POP3 viva [cppop 19.0] at [XX.XX.XXX.XXX] telnet servername 143 for the IMAP server * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] viv.XX.com IMAP4rev1 2003.339-cpanel at Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Is this enough to ascertain what the access rights ought to be? PS. What the recommended Gentoo telnet client? The lot is also accessible via Horde's and squirrel mail web gui's - not sure if that's relevant but thought I better mention it. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] cdrom: open failed
-Original Message- From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 25 September 2005 15:19 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom: open failed Carl Flippin schreef: I've recently done an install based loosely on the 1/3 method but using 2005.1 as the base. Everything works fine except for an error message which I get on bootup. Every time I boot, I get the message: cdrom: open failed cdrom: open failed I always assumed that this message (which I have also seen on occasion) is because 1) udev or /etc/fstab is attempting to mount the detected device (normal), I also get this message, despite not having set up my fstab to auto mount the CDROM. So it shouldn't be a mounting error; probably it is related to probing the device. Can't remember if there is a particular kernel option that brings this about. Interested to know what it means. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights
From:: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:19:25 +0100 On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:04:13 +, Mick wrote: Providing some basic information such as what mail servers are you using would be a big plus to get an answer from someone. Unfortunately it's a sendmail setup on a hosted account and no info is forthcoming from the admin. It seems like an mbox style mail implementation. That's all I know about it I'm afraid. You could telnet into the server to see what the software identifies itself as. Thanks, this is what I got: telnet servername 25 for the SMTP server 220-viv.XXX.com ESMTP Exim 4.50 #1 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:39:45 -0400 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited, 220 and/or bulk e-mail. telnet servername 110 for the POP server +OK POP3 viva [cppop 19.0] at [XX.XX.XXX.XXX] telnet servername 143 for the IMAP server * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] viv.XX.com IMAP4rev1 2003.339-cpanel at Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:45:38 -0400 (EDT) Is this enough to ascertain what the access rights ought to be? PS. What the recommended Gentoo telnet client? -- Regards, Mick Lycos email has now 300 Megabytes of free storage... Get it now at mail.lycos.co.uk
RE: [gentoo-user] USB modem
-Original Message- From: Thanasis Papakonstantinou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2005 00:10 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] USB modem Can you recommend an external *USB* dialup PSTN modem, which will work 100-90% in Gento 2.6.13r1 ? After failing to setup my laptop's mart link winmodem (it can't be done, i'll have to wait), a USB modem is the only solution Sorry, I haven't a direct answer to your question, only a warning: check that the supposedly external modem is a real external hardware modem. There's a few around which in reality are software winmodems in-a-box. You plug them in and then spend a lot of time wondering why it doesn't work. :-@ Googling around once you set your eyes on a particular USB modem usually provides some useful clues. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
-Original Message- From: Rupert Young (Restart) [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2005 12:25 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems Thanks. Unless anyone else has any suggestions I will try it. Can anyone else confirm this is the way to go before I try? It depends how patient you are. The suggested fix will bring your machine up to an as new condition. On the other hand, it might unnecessarily rebuilt packages that may not be broken or need updating (yet) and will take years to complete (well, it depends on how fast your machine is :-) That said I would think that after a whole year there wouldn't be much left in portage, which has not a new ebuild? As an alternative, if your machine is not totally hosed you could start from the bottom up rebuilding the core packages and after a fresh --sync, update the whole world. Try re-emerging the gentoo toolkit: gcc-config glibc binutils libstdc++. Run # etc-update and # env-update source /etc/profile as required and rebuild portage; do another --sync; and then emerge -upDv world to see what comes up in need for an update. However, if basic compilers, etc. are broken you will not be able to re-emerge the toolkit and the solution suggested by Dave remains the best option. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo
-Original Message- From: Sascha Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 22 September 2005 13:01 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo no what about stuff that doesn't run all the time? stuff that cro needs etc? I realy know what will run on such a system. Think of a router, or a datacollector. Pleas tell me what is cro? I believe he meant cron. Besides cron jobs and associated executables, there's files which are accessed intermittently and written/read from even more sparsely. Unless you somehow log the file paths for all such interactions how will you ever know what to delete and what not? I guess you can keep backups and experiment so that you don't find out something's missing the hard way, next time you decide to reboot. -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] CUPS: Sharing printers via IPP
-Original Message- From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 20 September 2005 22:33 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS: Sharing printers via IPP HA!!! I just set up windows to print to cups direct (no samba) and may be able to offer some insights. to allow connection to the printer from your 192.168.0.0 network edit /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to include the following: Has anyone tried to do this: http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_print_winserver without SAMBA? -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list
RE: [gentoo-user] Replacing main harddisk
-Original Message- From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 19 September 2005 19:48 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing main harddisk On Monday 19 Sep 2005 18:22, S. ancelot wrote: Hi, Download linux sysrescue live cd on the web and use dd_rescue bye snip Do you mean the install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso? I could not find any sysrescue live cd listed. If I do a dd_rescue what would I do to get the initial console working? dd_rescue is a very good command for rescuing data from damaged media. You use it just like the dd command, although it has different options (read the documentation to familiarise yourself with its intricacies). BTW, if you enable the creation of a log file you'll be able to know if some/which of your original data is corrupt. It may well be the case that your data is not corrupt at all. I had another thought about your console problem. It seems to me that symlinks got screwed up. Did you by any chance tried to back up your system while running it? Not sure if I mentioned it, but the advised way to create a complete drive/system back up is to use a LiveCD, so that your OS is in a totally inert condition. Otherwise you will be copying a number of temporary files which are created only for the particular session. So, as a solution I suggest that you use a LiveCD (Gentoo, Knoppix, sysresque, will do) and then execute any of the methods I mentioned to back up your data. Thereafter, replace the old drive, reset your BIOS and boot up. Good luck, -- Regards, Mick -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org mailing list