[gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting

2006-03-28 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

This has been talked to death.  I never recall having any problems
setting my system clock and getting it to automatically adjust to the
British Summer Time change.

I recently moved my fs from my desktop to a laptop.  Unfortunately, the
time change did not happen - I think that the fs was in limbo at the
time the clock changed as I was moving it from one machine to the other.
Since booted on the lappy it is still showing winter time (GMT), while
the desktop system clock has happily changed over to the +1hr summer
time setting.

My /etc/localtime is pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC (it was
originally pointing to GMT but I changed it in an effort to fix it).

My /etc/conf.d/clock is set to CLOCK=UTC.

I am not knowingly using NTP, python scripts or anything else to sync my
system clock with the Internet/network.

Is there anything else I am supposed to look into?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting [SOLVED]

2006-03-28 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Uwe Thiem [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 28 March 2006 15:28
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem with Summer Time setting
 
  My /etc/localtime is pointing to /usr/share/zoneinfo/UTC (it was
  originally pointing to GMT but I changed it in an effort to fix it).
 
 Shouldn't that point to /usr/share/Europe/London?

Sweet!  It worked a treat.  What puzzles me is why GMT/UTC works on my
desktop for years now, without any problem.

Thank you for your replies.  :-)
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2006 09:24
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
[snip...] 
  Yes, but GNU tar cannot do that, it can only do one command at a 
  time, either --extract or --delete or ...
 
 The simplest solution is probably to make several smaller tarballs
 instead on one containing the whole of /usr.

Thanks for all the suggestions.  I ended up breaking up /usr into
smaller directories and I have now migrated the fs onto the laptop.  :-)

However, I tried the --exclude FILE option and could not get it to work.
In particular, I had a go with these:
===
 --exclude /mnt/hda5/portage/*
 --exclude /mnt/hda5/portage
 --exclude portage
 --exclude=/mnt/hda5/portage/*
 . . . etc.
===
I even used ' ' to enclose the path/pattern but I just couldn't get it
to work.  :-(

What did I do wrong?
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Björn Gustafsson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2006 14:35
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
 
 :set noai
 
 and :set ai for when you want it back on :)

I checked my vim config file and I had :set noautoindent or something
like that there - but I guess a newer vim version probably changed the
syntax at some point?

Meanwhile, Google is telling me that auto-indentation is off by default.
What gives?

If like me someone else is struggling to remember all of Vim's commands
I have found this useful page:
http://atlas.scs.carleton.ca/~youngsoo/misc/vi.html
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RE: [gentoo-user] USB sync/async mount

2006-03-27 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 March 2006 17:29
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB sync/async mount
 
 My fstab, if anyone's wondering:

   /dev/sda1   /mnt/usbautonoauto,user 0 0
 
Shouldn't   /dev/sda1   /mnt/usbautonoauto,user 0
0 also contain async to avoid burning it out?
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kintzios
Thank you All for your replies.

 -Original Message-
 From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2006 23:42
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
 
 
 Michael Kintzios wrote:
  As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2,
  which is destined to house the /usr/portage directory.  /dev/hda2
  is a 4.0G partition with only 74M available.
 
 How big is gentoo_usr.tgz?  What's the rest on /dev/hda2?

gentoo_usr.tgz is 3.9G+ and there's nothing else left in /dev/hda2.
 
  /dev/hda3 will have the rest of the filesystem 
  (and the remaining /usr directory).
 
 What's on /dev/hda3 now?  How big is it?  What's on /dev/hda1?  
 Can't you move the gentoo_usr.tgz to another roomier partition?

There's no other roomier partition which will contain gentoo_usr.tgz as
a single file.

 If I get it right, /dev/hda3 is destined to become your /, 
 and /dev/hda2 your /usr/portage.  Have you already upacked the rest 
 of / on /dev/hda3?  How about retarring it and untarring it after 
 gentoo_usr.tgz?

I'll have a look at doing something like that, although I will not be
able to untar gentoo_usr.tgz into another partition (at 6.4G untarred
there's just not enough space).

  what I think is needed
  here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is
  dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for
  more data to be untarred . . . do I make sense?
 
 Yes, but GNU tar cannot do that, it can only do one command at a 
 time, either --extract or --delete or ...

Yes, that's why I was hoping that some clever bash-ery may be able to
pipe the lot together.

As I have no access to another machine or network until I get back home,
the helpful link provided may have to wait.  Of course once I get back
home I can only tar the directories I need, one at a time.

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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: JimD [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2006 21:20
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
 
 
 On Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:18:44 -0600
 Michael Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Is there a way to turn off the line wrap function in 
 vim/gvim?  I know
  it doesn't actually wrap lines in the file - I just want to turn off
  the visual line wrap in the editor.  Is that possible?
 
 From within vim/gvim type:
 
 :set nowrap
 
 I add that to my .vimrc, without the :.

While on this topic, when I cut  paste in Vim it automatically inserts
indents on the front of each pasted line which messes up my config
files.  I had it fixed some time ago and now I noticed it's back - would
you know how I can switch it off again?
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RE: [gentoo-user] is it toast?

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Hemmann, Volker Armin 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2006 10:45
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] is it toast?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 does the stick have a write-protect switch? 
 
 Mine has - and AFAIR most sticks too. Maybe he switched it?

If it doesn't have a switch, can you repartition it with VFAT using
parted, or fdisk?
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim

2006-03-24 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Rafael Bugajewski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 March 2006 14:30
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT - Linewrap in vim
 
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Am 24.03.2006 um 15:19 schrieb Michael Kintzios:
 
  While on this topic, when I cut  paste in Vim it automatically  
  inserts
  indents on the front of each pasted line which messes up my config
  files.  I had it fixed some time ago and now I noticed it's back -  
  would
  you know how I can switch it off again?
 
 I have something like this in my .vimrc:
 
 set pastetoggle=F11
 
 If I press F11, I can go into the paste mode and paste some weird  
 stuff. Afterwards I press F11 again and I am in the normal mode  
 again. I hope it helps you a little bit.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo installation process

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2006 00:56
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Current state of the Gentoo 
 installation process
 
 
 On Wed, 22 Mar 2006 15:12:25 -0800, Grant wrote:
 
   Also, if you start with Stage3, you may not even need to 
 rebuild the
   installed packages, as if it's been a little while since 
 the Stage3
   image was created, there will be new versions of 
 everything, so you'd
   be rebuilding when you do a 'emerge -u system' anyways.
 
  Nice.  Is there a slick way to determine if there are any 
 pre-compiled
  packages left on the system after the first 'emerge -u system'?
 
 touch /tmp/firstupdate
 emerge --update --deep --newuse world
 find /var/db/pkg/ -maxdepth 2 -mindepth 2 -type d ! -newer 
 /tmp/firstupdate

In time you will end up rebuilding the lot anyway - assuming you emerge
-u world every now and then.  The problem with the stage1 was that it
left some cruft behind in the portage and system.  Hence, the build a
stage1 using a stage3 install series of howto's in the forums.
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[gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Kintzios
I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole:

I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration
exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it.  Is
there a way of running tar so that:

1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of
/usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually untar it and keep
it in there).
2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed from the .tgz
file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the /usr/portage
directory.
3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said partition and the
 tgz file is deleted thereafter.

Could you please help with the command/piping syntax?
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Crute [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2006 17:03
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
 
 
 On 3/23/06, Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I think I need to go back to basics here to get out of a hole:
 
  I have move my /usr onto a different machine as part of a migration
  exercise, but the partition in question will barely contain it.  Is
  there a way of running tar so that:
 
  1. Only part of /usr is untarred in a different partition (all of
  /usr/*, except /usr/portage which I want to eventually 
 untar it and keep
  it in there).
  2. Those directories which are untarred are also removed 
 from the .tgz
  file so that there is enough space left behind to untar the 
 /usr/portage
  directory.
  3. Finally, /usr/portage is now untarred into the said 
 partition and the
   tgz file is deleted thereafter.
 
  Could you please help with the command/piping syntax?
 
 Hmm... basics... I would start with `man tar` and see where 
 that takes you.

Not very far.  ;-) That's why I'm asking for some quick help.  I also
need to add that I was seeking answers to the above questions in the
context of having access only to the new machine and three more
partitions on it, all of which are smaller than the total uncompressed
/usr directory.
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Etaoin Shrdlu [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 23 March 2006 17:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
 
 
 What about doing two separate tar files, one for /usr/portage and the 
 other for the rest of /usr? Then untar each tar file into the 
 appropriate partition.

Thanks, but I won't be able to do that within the space confines of the
partitions available to me on the new machine.  They are all smaller
than the complete uncompressed /usr directory.  To have access to my old
box which has plenty of space to do that, I will have to wait until I
get back home in a couple of days.  I was just looking for a clever way
to do it all in the circumstances described.
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?

2006-03-23 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Michael Crute [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to tar?
 Date: Thu, 23 Mar 2006 12:32:55 -0500

 In that case I would create /usr on one filesystem and /portage on
 another partition then create /usr/portage and mount /portage to it
 then untar your file. It should look like this:
 
 /dev/hdx1 (/usr)
 /dev/hdx2 (/portage)
 
 /usr/portage - /portage
 
 Seems to be the most straightforward way of doing it to me.

Cool!  As things currently are gentoo_usr.tgz is in /dev/hda2, which is 
destined to house the /usr/portage directory.  /dev/hda2 is a 4.0G partition 
with only 74M available.  My /usr is more than 3.9G large.  /dev/hda3 will have 
the rest of the filesystem (and the remaining /usr directory).

What should I run to untar the rest of /usr (excluding /usr/portage) into 
/dev/hda3 and at the same time delete it from within the gentoo_usr.tgz 
archive, so that I get some space in /dev/hda2 to untar /usr/portage?  Really, 
what I think is needed here is untarring of the archive, while untarred data is 
dynamically deleted immediately after untarred to make space for more data to 
be untarred . . . do I make sense?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD

2006-03-21 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 20 March 2006 13:35
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem burning Gentoo 700 MB LiveCD
 
 
 On 3/20/06, Benjamin Sher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Dear friends:
 
[snip...]
  And yet, believe it or not, I did successfully burn an ISO 
 image of the
  Gentoo Minimal InstallCD (49 MB). It took some effort (same error
  message) but finally succeeded.

Intermittent problems like this could be either due to hardware (faulty
ribbon) and, or buggy firmware.  If this is a recently developed
behaviour I would suggest that you start by replacing the ribbon.  Using
Knoppix (from the hard drive) and K3B will I guess prove the point.

 Its surely and definitely a software problem (since you can burn CDs),
 and has probably nothing to do with Nero.

Nero has brought a couple of updates out (some of them free) and I would
suggest that the OP downloads and installs them for good measure, if he
hasn't done that already.  Additionally, he should update his firmware
using the relevant OEM downloads page.

 the above, change media (some CDs just don't work), and last, drop
 Nero and try XPBurnerPro, its free, simple and works very well.

Cool! http://www.cdburnerxp.se/features.php I'll try it out soon.  Also,
you may want to try http://www.deepburner.com/?r=download (the portable
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RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus

2006-03-09 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Bob Young [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 March 2006 21:05
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] antivirus
 
[snip]
 As to insert App Name here not running without Admin 
 rights, most of those
 cases can be taken care of with RunAs. It's better to run a 
 single App with
 Admin privledges rather than have all apps including email 
 and browsers
 running with Admin rights.

Actually, it would be better to troubleshoot the particular application
and allow it write/execute or modify rights *only* to the files it needs
to access for the particular plain user (typically some files or a
folder under C:\Program Files).

It may take some time to set up access rights for all such badly written
apps, but it'll keep your M$Windoze box as safe as it will ever be.  If
in addition you shut down all the open by default Windoze ports
(135-139, 445, 500, 1900, 4000 + remote admin) and disable
unnecessary/dangerous services and also stop using OE and IE (or at
least stop using them with their default settings) you should be safe
enough going about your normal business.

The above suggestions will ensure that viruses cannot be easily
installed (thus protecting users from clicking idiotically on any
rubbish they happen to receive as an email attachment) and will also
stop most of the trojans scanning the internet for default open Windoze
ports.  I know it works - my wife has not had her NT4/WinXP OS infected
since 1998, despite downloading all sort of garbage.  Of course, running
Nod32 also helps every now and then, mostly by providing early warnings
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RE: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia fails to emerge

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Rumen Yotov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 March 2006 07:21
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kdemultimedia fails to emerge
 
 
 On Thursday 02 March 2006 09:04, Mick wrote:
  Why on earth is libstdc++ playing up again?
  ==
  /bin/sh ../../libtool --silent --mode=link --tag=CXX 
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++
  -DEXAMPLES_DIR='/usr/kde/3.4/share/apps/artsbuilder/examples'
  -Wno-long-long -Wundef -ansi -D_XOPEN_SOURCE=500 
 -D_BSD_SOURCE -Wcast-align
  -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith 
 -DNDEBUG -DNO_DEBUG
  -O2 -O2 -march=pentium3 -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -Wformat-security
  -Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions
  -fno-check-new -fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST
  -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT -DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o 
 libartsbuilder.la
  -rpath /usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib 
 -L/usr/lib
  -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -no-undefined -Wl,--no-undefined
  -Wl,--allow-shlib-undefined artsbuilder.lo sequenceutils.lo
  structurebuilder_impl.lo structures_impl.lo moduleinfo.lo 
 compatibility.lo
  localfactory_impl.lo artsbuilderloader_impl.lo -lmcop 
 -lartsflow -ldl
  i686-pc-linux-gnu-g++: 
 /usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/libstdc++.so:
  No such file or directory
  make[3]: *** [libartsbuilder.la] Error 1
  make[3]: Leaving directory
  
 `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3
 /arts/runtime
 ' make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[2]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/arts'
  make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
  make[1]: Leaving directory
  `/var/tmp/portage/kdemultimedia-3.4.3/work/kdemultimedia-3.4.3'
  make: *** [all] Error 2
 
  !!! ERROR: kde-base/kdemultimedia-3.4.3 failed.
  !!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 224, Exitcode 2
  !!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
  ==
  revdep-rebuild won't fix it, neither will remerging 
 libstdc++.  Any ideas
  please?
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 Hi,
 Run fix_libtool_files.sh script using your old GCC version 
 as an argument.
 Just run:#fix_libtool_files.sh to see all options.

Thank you!  I thought that this is only meant to be run when moving from
one major version to another, not between minor subversions.  It fixed a
load of links and everything worked fine from there.  :)
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RE: [gentoo-user] install windows after gentoo on two different physical drives

2006-03-03 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Daniel da Veiga [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 03 March 2006 01:52
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] install windows after gentoo on 
 two different physical drives
 
 
 On 3/2/06, Marco Calviani [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Hi list,
i have a machine with two SATA hard disk. I would like to know if
  there are some possibilties to install windows (XP in particular) on
  the second hard drive AFTER gentoo has been installed on the first
  one, and, if yes, how to perform this task.
 
 I would use the most secure option, fisically remove the Linux drive,
 install Windows, put the Linux drive back and edit grub/lilo.

That's probably the best/safest option.

 Windows has a history of fixing Linux partitions, destroying data
 and disabling boot from their unknown partition type.

It only overwrites the MBR with its own proprietary boot code.  I never
had M$Windoze interfering with Linux partitions, or partition boot
sectors.

I believe that the only way to install WinXP on any other than the first
partition of the first disk while using the WinXP Installation CD, is to
temporarily use the hide flag on the first disk/partitions.
Alternatively, create an iso image of a known good WinXP installation
and dump that on any drive/partition you like.  Then use the fixmbr
command from a WinXP installation CD to write the MSWindoze boot code in
the WinXP drive and perhaps fixboot to write a new partition boot sector
and chainload your new WinXP from your Grub/LiLo conf file.

Too much hassle if you ask me.  I would just do what Daniel recommends.
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RE: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 March 2006 13:29
 To: gentoo-user
 Subject: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults
 
 
 
 Recently, programs on my computer have been victims of abrupt
 segfaults.
[snip...]
 Anyone else ever experience anything like this?  Anyone have any
 thoughts as to what the problem might be?

The random nature of your segfaults probably points to an overheating
problem.  I am saying that because if you waited for a while before the
segfaulting disappeared, the particular device (CPU, hard drive, memory)
cooled down and was able to function again.  Easy to test this
hypothesis with a domestic comfort cooling fan blowing towards an open
case.  More difficult to find out what particular device overheats.  A
problematic cooling fan (CPU, PSU, case) would usually become noisier as
its bearings are drying out (a drop of oil will provide an instant fix).
So would a hard drive.

If the application of a domestic cooling fan does not relieve the
problem, then it could well be faulty memory module(s), or a faulty
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RE: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults

2006-03-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 March 2006 15:54
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] mysterious segfaults
 
 
 On Thu, Mar 02, 2006 at 02:23:17PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote:
  If the application of a domestic cooling fan does not relieve the
  problem, then it could well be faulty memory module(s), or a
  faulty power supply.
 
 I'm afraid it's a random hardware failure.  I've been running
 cpuburn for the last couple hours.  According to sensors, my cpu has
 reached a max temp of 57 degress C.  No segfaults thus far.
 
 It's been several months ago, but I did run about eight hours of
 memtest86 on the memory.  Is it unusual for memory to work fine for
 a while and *then* go bad?
 
 I might try a new power supply anyway.
 
 For what it's worth, mysterious problems on this box have come and
 gone for probably a year now.  Every time something comes up, it's
 so random that I don't even know where to start looking.  I'm this
 - - close to building a whole new PC :)

No two PC's/MoBos are the same, but FWIW here's a bed time story:  I had
three incompatible memory sticks on mine which kept failing at random.
MEMTEST86+ did not show any errors.  Occasionally, a simple emerge
--sync was enough to crash the machine and needless to say all these
repeated crashes had started to corrupt my fs.  Running out of ideas I
decided to start removing memory sticks until I discovered that the best
result (in terms of stability) could only be arrived at if I left only
one 256M stick of branded memory in the box.  That was despite the fact
that the MoBo manual said you could mix 'n match memory modules without
any adverse effect on performance...  :p

In case you're suffering from the same problem, check whether a crash is
more likely if them machine is about to switch to the next bank of
memory/swap.  Mine invariably crashed most times it was getting ready to
swap data to the hard drive, or in any case as soon as it had used all
the memory on the first stick.  What drove me insane with this fault was
that it would only crash once and thereafter it was often good until the
next reboot.  Also, if the transition from the first memory stick to the
second or swap space, was caused by an application engaging in
aggressive resource usage (e.g. Opera loading font files when it hits a
website with Chinese characters) a crash was guaranteed.  Slowly
building up to it during a large emerge session would not cause any
crashes.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?

2006-02-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 February 2006 11:55
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: X without console log window?
 
 
 Hi,
 
 On Wed, 15 Feb 2006 20:20:49 +
 Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I don't know if I am asking too much here, but is there a way to:
  1. Continue with all messages shown in tty12 as per default 
 syslog-ng
  configuration.
  2. Also show all/some messages to xconsole.
  3. Do not pipe everything to console during/after boot - the default
  messages there are adequate for my liking.
  
  Perhaps I am a bit confused: what is the relationship 
 between /dev/console
  and xconsole?
 
 Ah, the xconsole program man page explains it: By default, xconsole
 reads from /dev/console. I didn't knew that.
 
 What you want to archieve is more like the solution debian uses. I'll
 post it here but I haven't tried it out so I cannot promise that it
 works:
 
 syslog-ng.conf:
 ---snip---
 destination xconsole { pipe(/dev/xconsole); };
 destination terminal { file(/dev/tty12); };
 log { source(src); destination(xconsole); }
 log { source(src); destination(terminal); }
 ---snip---
 
 /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0:
 ---snip---
 xconsole -geometry 480x130-0-0 -daemon -notify -verbose -fn 
 fixed -exitOnFail -file /dev/xconsole
 ---snip---
 
 That should do what you want to archieve.
 Nice alternative to xconsole is root-tail...

I've played around with your suggestions but had no joy with them.
Syslog-ng came up with many errors and although I tried different
combinations I couldn't get it to work.

Root-tail is cool but it gets covered up by different windows.  Do you
launch it as a default by entering a line in /etc/X11/xdm/Xsetup_0 ?

Xconsole does what I want it to do, but I would also like to get tty12
printing all messages and ideally would like xconsole to be positioned
above the fluxbox toolbar (height wise).
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RE: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably overheating, help?

2006-02-18 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 17 February 2006 11:13
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Hardware issues, probably 
 overheating, help?
 
 
 It says 400W on the power supply, but at the price I've 
 bought the case, I'm 
 sure its only about 350W.
 
 The second and third I've tried. Fourth... Hmm, I'll try to do that.
 
 And yeah, the power cord is plugged in perfectly, I just checked.

As already suggested the possibility of overheating can be ruled out if
you use a domestic comfort cooling fan and with the case open you
position it to blow across the MOBO and towards the back of the case.  A
low/medium setting from some distance is best as you want it to fan out
enough to cover MOBO, drives, etc and not race the fans in the case to
their maximum.  I you still get shutdowns then look again at the power
supply.  I would heed advice already given - you get what you pay - so
go for a good quality PSU with adequate rating for your system's needs.
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[gentoo-user] Unable to locate mail

2006-02-17 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

I have not (knowingly) set up my syslog-ng, logrotate, or some other 
application to send me mail, so I am curious where this little message came 
from:
===
Feb 17 20:10:02 study1 cron[12102]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  
/usr/sbin/run-crons )
Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 sSMTP[12061]: Unable to locate mail
Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 sSMTP[12061]: Cannot open mail:25
Feb 17 20:11:58 study1 cron[12047]: (root) MAIL (mailed 69 bytes of output but 
got status 0x0001 )
Feb 17 20:20:01 study1 cron[12132]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  
/usr/sbin/run-crons )
Feb 17 20:30:01 study1 cron[12144]: (root) CMD (test -x /usr/sbin/run-crons  
/usr/sbin/run-crons )
===

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-16 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 15 February 2006 10:02
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the 
 installation of Gentoo
 
 
 On Mon, 13 Feb 2006 00:25:52 +0100, Bo Andresen wrote:
 
  I always copy do:
  cp arch/i386/boot/bzImage /boot/kernel-version-gentoo-r?
  cp System.map /boot/System.map-version-gentoo-r?
  cp .config /boot/config-version-gentoo-r?
 
 make install does exactly the same, and sets up the vmlinuz and
 vmlinuz.old symlinks to point to your new and previous kernel
 respectively, so you don't need to edit grub.conf.

Hmm, it doesn't on my two boxen.  :-(  I do not have a vmlinuz,
System.map and config links.

Do I have to first set up the symlinks manually?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-16 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 16 February 2006 16:10
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the 
 installation of Gentoo
 
   make install does exactly the same, and sets up the vmlinuz and
   vmlinuz.old symlinks to point to your new and previous kernel
   respectively, so you don't need to edit grub.conf.
  
  Hmm, it doesn't on my two boxen.  :-(  I do not have a vmlinuz,
  System.map and config links.
  
  Do I have to first set up the symlinks manually?
 
 Looking as /sbin/installkernel, it doesn't appear that you 
 have to create
 the links. Of course, you do have to make sure /boot is 
 mounted first :)

Yep, /boot is always mounted (just to be sure I won't forget it, I
always mount it before I even cd into /usr/src/linux).  Running make 
make modules_install does *not* create any links in my /boot directory,
ever.  Could it be that there's something wrong with my system(s) - at
least three installations have always behaved like this . . .
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RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?

2006-02-15 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 14 February 2006 20:20
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
 
 
 Michael Kintzios wrote:
   From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the
   setting.)
 
  Thank you!  I'll try it again when I get home.  I guess this is
  not available in the GUI?  (because I couldn't find it).
 
 You mean in Settings  Configure KMail?  No, I couldn't find it 
 there either.  (Time for you to make and submit a patch. :)

Sure!  And then I'll learn how to code in C++, Python and another few
programming languages over my lunch break . . . I mean, what chances do
I have?  I couldn't even find a GUI option, tut, tut!  :D
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Maarten [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 February 2006 17:49
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the 
 installation of Gentoo
 
 
 Richard Fish wrote:
 Now, after rebooting, it really went straight, with text menu. It
 starts loading really fast the system,but all of a sudden, a Kernel
 Panic says:
 
 Warning - Unable to open an initial console
 Kernel panic - not suncing: No init found. Try passing 
 init= option to kernel
  
  
  This message usually means you are missing /dev/console on 
 your root filesystem.
 
 That warning, yes.
 But the error right after that means what it says: No init 
 found, ie. it
 has mounted a filesystem (else you get another error-: Kernel panic -
 cannot mount root partition) but it is unable to find 'init' there.
 From that, one can deduce the OP probably pointed the kernel to the
 wrong root partition (ie. /boot, or /usr, etc.)

  . . or, on a multipartition installation they've missed out some
rather important directory which needs to be in / for it to boot, like
e.g. /sbin.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?

2006-02-14 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 February 2006 23:03
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Kmail Spellchecking Disabled?
 
 
 Mick wrote:
  For some reason when I reply or create a new message in Kmail the
  dynamic spellchecking is disabled.
 
 Ctrl+N, Alt+O, A.
 
 (New Message, Options, Auto.Spell. -- it remembers the setting.)

Thank you!  I'll try it again when I get home.  I guess this is not
available in the GUI?  (because I couldn't find it).
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RE: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Urs Schuetz [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 February 2006 20:52
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
 
 
 On Sat, 11 Feb 2006, Hans-Werner Hilse wrote:
  Hi,
  
  On Fri, 10 Feb 2006 19:08:25 -0200
  Urs Schuetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  
   Everytime when I startup my computer, in X apears a minimized
   Console Log window icon.
   [...]
   I could not find the script ou option which starts this window.
   Where can I disable it? I don't even know what's the name of the
   executable for this window.
  
  it's xconsole, AFAIK usually started by the default 
 Xsession script
  coming with xdm. configuration is in /etc/X11/xdm.
  
 That was it! It is in /etc/X11/xdm/setup_0 where xconsole 
 gets started.
 Thanks!

What's the purpose of this window?  What is it meant to log - as far as
I can tell it just stays empty . . .
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the installation of Gentoo

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Gilberto Martins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 February 2006 13:16
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Problems with GRUB in the 
 installation of Gentoo
 
 
 Hi again.
 
 2006/2/13, Bo Andresen [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  On Monday 13 February 2006 13:04, Gilberto Martins wrote:
   So good I haven't bet, for I'd loose.  8)
   Making this change solved the problem. Seems that grub works, but
   there is something I am not doing the right way.
 
  1) Did you mean Lilo instead of Grub works??
 
 YES
 
  2) Did you try root(hd1,0) with Grub?
 
 YES

Make sure that /etc/fstab has the correct devices/fs for each partition.
Usual error is that people leave it with the default entry e.g.
/dev/ROOT instead of the correct /dev/hdb3 in your case.

Also, check if you have chosen reiserfs and have not selected this as a
*built-in* option in your kernel (not a module).  The default kernel
config does not select reiserfs.
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RE: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Hans-Werner Hilse [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 February 2006 12:34
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] X without console log window?
 
  What's the purpose of this window?  What is it meant to log 
 - as far as
  I can tell it just stays empty . . .
 
 That depends. It usually just outputs what is piped into 
 /dev/xconsole.
 If nothing is piped in there, it won't display anything. But in most
 cases the syslog daemon is configured to output some message classes,
 if not all, to this device as well (additional to outputting 
 to the log
 file and /dev/console). So it depends on syslog configuration whether
 syslog messages show up here. Other programs w/ the corresponding
 rights on /dev/xconsole can pipe their stuff there, too, of course.

Would you mind showing a default/typical/custom (whatever) config file
so that I can compare with mine?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Max Number of Partitions

2006-02-13 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 13 February 2006 01:32
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Max Number of Partitions
 
 
 Um, activate the vg in partial mode and lvols on the good 
 disk will still 
 be accessible -- I think even writable, but I could be wrong on that 
 point.  I'm not sure if that's in the standard lvm startup scripts on 
 gentoo, but my initrd includes vgscan -P; vgchange -Pay.
 
  Nah, too dangerous for me. I use multiple Volume Groups.
 
 Then you can't have a lv that's bigger than a single pv or 
 migrate data 
 between pvs (to switch them out or w/e) using pvmove.
 
 You are seriously crippling the usefulness of lvm if you 
 always use a 1 pv 
 = 1 vg rule.

Thank you all for the responses!  It's taken me sometime to check my
mail and they've piled up.  :)

Two quick Q's:

Current partitions 1, 13, 14, 15 and 16 are NTFS.  As I understand it
LVM is a software solution that works happily with Linux.  What happens
when my other half tries to boot into WinXP?  Are we going to have a
major domestic because I hosed *her* computer?

I believe Alexander mentioned it, but the reason I have placed
directories like /usr/portage into different partitions is to minimise
data fragmentation.  How does this work in an LVM set up?
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RE: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...

2006-02-10 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Crawford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 10 February 2006 09:32
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...
 
 
 Same problem here- I've tried for a while to figure it out, 
 with no luck. I'd 
 also like to not have it not overwritten with each boot, and appended 
 instead.

I think that /var/log/syslog does a better job for what you want, as I
have commented in a previous response (not sure if it appeared in the
list - it's been playing up lately on my end).
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RE: [gentoo-user] OT: Linksys router problems

2006-02-08 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Ernie Schroder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 February 2006 21:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] OT: Linksys router problems
 
   gotten rather used to it in the 4 years I've had it 
 working. Any ideas?
 
  You could check the default MTU setting on the router. I 
 use a dlink and
  had to lower mine. The default setting was 1500 and I 
 lowered it to 1480.
  http://forums.speedguide.net/showthread.php?t=134898
 yeah... I played with MTU as well Then I dloaded what was 
 labled as the 
 firmware version that I had been running I installed that and 
 now the router 
 is completely hosed. Somewhere in my travels, I found a 
 description of how to 
 telnet to the router and update. I'm going to see if I can 
 find that and give 
 it another shot. If not, CompUSA has a router for $30.
 -- 
 Regards, Ernie

Your ISP should advise what is the optimum MTU for their gateway
implementation.  Mine for example is 1480.  At 1500 I get a lot of
fragmentation but can still connect.

I have found that upgrading the firmware on embedded routers using the
provided browser gui can go wrong with some browsers.  If I remember
right the Netgear routers won't upgrade using Konqueror, or earlier
versions of Firefox, but don't mind Opera.  Note: you may need to allow
all popups in your browser for the upgrade to complete successfully.  I
would at least try to reload the firmware upgrade after a factory reset.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Wireless print server recommendations

2006-02-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 February 2006 02:05
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Wireless print server recommendations
 
 
 
 On 6 Feb 2006, at 18:03, John J. Foster wrote:
 
  I'm looking for recommendations for a wireless print server with a
  minimum of 1 USB2.0 port and 1 parallel port. I currently have a  
  Linksys
  WRT4GS router running openWRT Linux firmware...
 
  Does anyone have any recommendations that:
 1)  Works just fine in a Linux environment.
 ...
 4)  Supports a HPDeskJet 5550 printer. (I only mention 
 this because
 some reviewers have mentioned that the WPS54GS doesn't 
 work with  
  some
 USB printers.)
 
 As a datapoint I tried the Netgear PS121 USB print server and it was  
 failed with my Canon Pixima ip3000 under both Mac OS X  Windows.  
 These things mostly seem very flakey  Windows-centric and it sounds  
 like you're lucky to have a good one with the Linux Linksys.
 http://www.netgear.co.uk/usb_print_server_ps121.php
 
 Stroller.

Unfortunately I have no wireless printer server experience, but the
following response may provide some supporting information:

Unlike Stroller's experience above, the PS121 works like a dream with
Cups and the HP DeskJet 930C printer (hpijs driver). I think that I have
written something here about setting it up, but I can't access the link
right now to check:

http://www.linuxprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=HP-DeskJet_930C

Also there is a Netgear compatibility list which is pretty incomplete,
but at the bottom of the page there are some printers which
categorically fail to work with netgear print servers:

http://kbserver.netgear.com/kb_web_files/n101216.asp

Most of these are CAPT and GDI printers which rely on proprietary
command sets and will not work with simple print servers like the PS121.
Additionally, the PS121 will not support anything else other than the
printing function of All-In-One printers.  Not only that, but faxing,
copying, etc. would probably require that the PS121 is disconnected and
perhaps the All-In-One printer rebooted.  Bi-directionality between
printer and computer is not always supported by the PS121 server - in my
setup it is not supported either on Linux, or M$Windoze.

Please let us know what you find on the wireless front, although I
suspect that it ain't going to be cheap, especially if your printer is
of the CAPT/GDI variety (mind you, it doesn't look as if it is).
Proprietary printer servers are 4-5 times the cost of a simple TCP/IP
PS121.  More if you want wireless connectivity on top.
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RE: [gentoo-user] USB issue

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish
 Sent: 04 February 2006 23:26
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue
 
 
 On 2/3/06, Franta [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  frankies rules.d # uname -r
  2.6.12-gentoo-r10
  frankies rules.d #
 
  ... a hotplug issue?
 
 Well, hotplug as we knew it no longer exists really.  Now the kernel
 sends hotplug events using either udevsend or (for 2.6.15 onwards)
 netlink.
 
 Try cat /proc/sys/kernel/hotplug.  In your case, it should say
 /sbin/udevsend.
 
 However, we are _assuming_ that the system is starting udev.  You
 should check the first few lines of the system boot to make sure.  You
 should see messages like:
 
 Mounting /dev for udev ...
 ...
   Setting /sbin/udevsend as hotplug agent ...
 
 -Richard

I'm still on the last 2.6.14 kernel and would like to know any tricks I
need to put in place before I run into a USB problem . . . I have
hotplug in my rc-update default and coldplug in my rc-update boot.  Do I
need to change these manually, or will a 2.6.15 kernel and update world
sort it out for me?
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RE: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Fredrik Lundgren [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 February 2006 13:40
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] ...startup information on screen...
 
 
 Dear Gentoos,
 
 Is the information that runs on the screen before and after X 
 is started 
 or closed saved in some place or can it be saved or retrieved somehow?
 
 Fredrik 

Have a look at this (recent) post:

http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/153050/

There may be other/better ways of achieving the same thing using e.g.
nohup and script?
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RE: [gentoo-user] USB issue

2006-02-06 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish
 Sent: 06 February 2006 14:18
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] USB issue
 
 
  I'm still on the last 2.6.14 kernel and would like to know 
 any tricks I
  need to put in place before I run into a USB problem . . . I have
  hotplug in my rc-update default and coldplug in my 
 rc-update boot.  Do I
  need to change these manually, or will a 2.6.15 kernel and 
 update world
  sort it out for me?
 
 It 'just worked' for me, but I do run ~x86.  The big difference
 between 2.6.14 and later kernels is that later kernels use netlink for
 hotplug events instead of udevsend.  You can see this towards the
 bottom of /lib/rcscripts/addons/udev-start.sh.  There is not anything
 special that you need to do to prepare for this, other than
 etc-update.
 
 -Richard

Thanks, let's hope that'll be the case with my stable system, too.  I
was just asking to know if I will need to remove hotplug from the rc
levels and then unmerge it manually, or whether such things will be
taken care of by the update process.
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Re: RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-02-05 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
 Date: Thu, 2 Feb 2006 11:24:50 -

  -Original Message-
  From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: 02 February 2006 10:04
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
  
  
  On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was
resolved by changing
the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse
works OK It still
appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev
not found and
something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
  
   For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log
   messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog.
  
  Mick
  I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking 
  for a boot log, 
  I suppose I need to turn it on somehow.
  Do you know how?
  Thanks
 
 I'll try to look into it tonight (away from my PC now) and get back to
 you.

Sorry, it's taken me some time to look into this (working all hours at the 
moment!)

Check if your /etc/syslog-ng/syslog-ng.conf has a destination/filter like this:
=
#This is the source of the messages to be logged.
source src { unix-stream(/dev/log); internal(); pipe(/proc/kmsg); };
source kernsrc { pipe(/proc/kmsg); };

#This is the destination where we want to capture some of the messages.
destination syslog { file(/var/log/syslog); };

#This the relevant filter.
filter f_syslog { not facility(authpriv, mail); };

#This connects them together.
log { source(src); filter(f_syslog); destination(syslog); };
=

To rotate the logs I have set this up in my /etc/logrotate.conf:
=
# when /var/log/syslog gets big 
/var/log/syslog
{   
rotate 1
weekly
size=1M
}
=

Not sure if the above is syntatictally perfect, or a bit crude, but it works on 
two of my boxen without apparent problems.  Someone with scripting skills may 
want to comment on improving it?
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RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-02-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 February 2006 10:04
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
 
 
 On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 16:29, Michael Kintzios wrote:
   -Original Message-
   From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
   I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was
   resolved by changing
   the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse
   works OK It still
   appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
   I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev
   not found and
   something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!
 
  For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log
  messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog.
 
 Mick
 I don't have a directory /var/log/syslog. I have been looking 
 for a boot log, 
 I suppose I need to turn it on somehow.
 Do you know how?
 Thanks

I'll try to look into it tonight (away from my PC now) and get back to
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RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-02-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 02 February 2006 12:39
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
 
 
 On Wednesday 01 Feb 2006 10:43, Paul wrote:
  On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 17:21, Richard Fish wrote:
   On 1/31/06, Paul [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  I have added the option line but it has made no difference, 
 I am still
  deleting 2 messages sometimes, it seems to be completely 
 random, as does
  the problem with the second copy of a message opening in 
 another window. 
  Also I sometimes click on the terminal program or the 
 personal files icon
  and 2 instances open.
  This is very weird
 UPDATE
 I have connected a PS2 mouse and the double clicking problems have 
 disappeared, but as soon as I use the USB mouse the problem is back
 
 This has got to be a USB problem but I Don't know where to 
 look next.  I have 
 been looking in /var/log/portage to see if any updates could 
 have caused this 
 in the last few weeks.  The trouble is I don't know which 
 programs a usb 
 mouse uses.
 Any ideas out there

Others have experienced problems with the latest udev update
(unstable?).  This may only apply to setups with bespoke udev rules; did
you have any special udev rules for your USB mouse?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?

2006-02-01 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Benno Schulenberg [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 31 January 2006 18:29
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT: Dead key on keyboard diagnostic?
 
 
  Any ideas how to fix this? new map?   When  I boot 
  (2.6.14-gentoo-r6) the laptop, I get an error messge about :
  System.map not found  can not  check symbols
 
 That is something different entirely.  When you install your kernel 
 (which normally means copying bzImage to the /boot dir) you have to 
 copy the System.map file (from the top dir of the kernel source) 
 along with it, although this file is really only needed when you get 
 oopses, so the kernel is able to tell in what function it occurs.

I am also getting this on my boot script on two different boxes.  It
started a week ago after some update world.  I am about compile the
latest stable kernel to see if it goes away.
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RE: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem

2006-02-01 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 31 January 2006 16:16
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] kmail delete problem
 
 
 On Tuesday 31 Jan 2006 12:49, Dale wrote:
 I raised the original mouse problem which I thought was 
 resolved by changing 
 the mouse protocal to ExplorerPS/2. Although the mouse 
 works OK It still 
 appears to be SOMETIMES double clicking.
 I have noticed that on boot I get an error module mousedev 
 not found and 
 something else but I don't appear to have a boot log!!!

For besides the hardware related messages in dmesg and xorg.0.log
messages you can also check the last boot cycle in /var/log/syslog.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??(now resolved)

2006-01-30 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Ernie Schroder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 January 2006 13:40
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Duplicate mouse clicks??(now resolved)
 
 
 On Friday 27 January 2006 06:17, a tiny voice compelled Paul to write:
  Hi all,
  Thanks for all the help.
  I changed the protocol to ExplorerPS/2 and I now have the 
 wheel working
  again.
  The question is - What has change in the last few weeks to 
 have caused this
  problem. Previously the mouse had been working with the 
 protocol set to
  auto with no problems.
 
  Paul
  --
  This message has been sent using kmail with gentoo linux
 
 I wish I knew the answer to that myself. IMPS/2 worked for me 
 for 5 years. In 
 my case, the problem started when I finally updated to xorg 
 from XFree.

I have always had problems with auto and soon enough spotted the mouse
being recognised as ExplorerPS/2 in my xorg.0.log, so changed it to
that and have been happy in that respect ever since. :-)

FWICR IMPS/2 also works fine.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 January 2006 06:24
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Dual Boot System Setup
 
 
 If grub gets hosed, you can boot a Win 98 CD or a boot floppy and run
 fdisk /mbr on it.  I recently took a hard drive of mine out 
 of a friends
 computer that was dual booting and that was what I did.  Now 
 windoze XP
 boots up like Linux was never there.  I'm not sure if you can do that
 from the win XP CD or not though.  I'm not a windoze person.  I don't
 have and never had windoze, ever. 

The command fixmbr ran with the WinXP installation CD will reinstall the
M$Windoze boot code in the MBR.  Similarly the command fixboot will
rewrite the partition boot sector if by mistake Grub was installed in
the WinXP partition boot sector instead of the MBR. A lot of people
unnecessarily reinstall M$Windoze when either of these two little tips
could save the day.
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RE: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail

2006-01-25 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Robert Persson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 January 2006 00:46
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] composing fancy html in kmail
 
 
 I want to send an email with both embedded thumbnail images 
 and external 
 hyperlinks. My email client is kmail.
 
 What I want to do is certainly impossible with the kmail 
 editor, however kmail 
 gives you the option of using an external editor. Is there 
 any way I can do 
 what I want and get the result, complete with embedded images 
 and hyperlinks, 
 back into kmail for sending?
 
 If not, is there another email client which will allow me to 
 do what I want - 
 ideally one that will allow me to work in a joined up way 
 like you can with 
 kontact, evolution, m-ess outlook etc?

I can't remember if Thunderbird has a GUI for HTML editing (never used
it), but have you tried using applications like Quanta+ or even OOo as
an external editor to kmail?  Alternatively, would something like
Vim/kate/etc. work, but you will need to write your own HTML tags and
also change the mail header in kmail to reflect the fact that this is a
multipart text/html message (not sure how to do this).

I am not at my machine to try any of the above, but please post back if
you can get it working.  Some times HTML tags are more useful to convey
information than plain text.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: any easy way to reemerge kde using equery or similar tool?

2006-01-24 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 24 January 2006 16:41
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: any easy way to reemerge kde 
 using equery or similar tool?
 
 
 On Tue, 24 Jan 2006 14:01:31 -, Michael Kintzios wrote:
 
Of course, it will ruin your world file like 
this because you didn't use --oneshot.
 
  If understand this right --oneshot does not add the packages to the
  world file.  I assume that if the KDE packages are already 
 in the world
  file then re-emerging them should not really cause 
 duplicate entries - I
  guess the ebuild or emerge script checks for packages which 
 have already
  been installed and amends the world file accordingly, no?  
 Am I missing
  the point with this --oneshot option?
 
 You are assuming that all the KDE packages are in your world 
 file, they
 are not. For example, none of the lib* packages should be there. 

I see (I think).  Please bear with me while I am catching up:  the
script will individually emerge every KDE component as opposed to the
original meta packages which brought in with them their dependencies.
The latter would not have been in the world file, but by virtue of the
script they will now be added - unless of course --oneshot is used.
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[gentoo-user] Captive will not acquire?

2006-01-24 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

Just emerged captive-1.1.7 and when I'm trying to run # 
/usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire just as the ebuild tells me to do - it can't 
find the path . . .

 # /usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire
bash: /usr/sbin/captive-install-acquire: No such file or directory
# captive-install-acquire
bash: captive-install-acquire: command not found

What's up with this?  What should I do next? (other than wait for the native 
kernel driver to be developed fo rw to NTFS partitions).
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Re: [gentoo-user] can't chmod +u /sbin/halt anymore

2006-01-23 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Antoine [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] can't chmod +u /sbin/halt anymore
 Date: Mon, 23 Jan 2006 21:11:17 +0100

 Hi,
 Until now I have been able to chmod halt to let me halt/reboot as a 
 normal user and my last big emerge -uDNav world put a stop to that - any 
 ideas?

Shouldn't you be using sudo for this purpose?
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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge --sync vs emerge -sync

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Charles Marcus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user]  emerge --sync vs emerge -sync
 Date: Wed, 18 Jan 2006 16:16:18 -0500

 This may be the ultimate dumb question, but no amount of googling could 
 satisfy my ignorance...
 
 Is there any difference? If not, why are the double hyphens almost 
 always specified?

AFAIK the emerge sync is now depracated and the emerge --sync is the way to go.
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[gentoo-user] Captive requires gnome?

2006-01-22 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

I am trying to emerge Captive but it wants to pull in some gnome dependencies.  
Is there a way of avoiding this on a non-gnome machine?

# emerge -upDv captive

These are the packages that I would merge, in order:

Calculating dependencies ...done!
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-mime-data-2.4.2  -debug 829 kB 
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/libbonobo-2.10.1  -debug -doc -static 1,326 kB 
[ebuild  N] gnome-base/gnome-vfs-2.10.1-r2  -debug -doc -gnutls -hal -howl 
-ipv6 -samba +ssl 1,860 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/ntfsprogs-1.11.2  -debug -fuse -gnome 742 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/fuse-2.4.1-r1  375 kB 
[ebuild  N] sys-fs/captive-1.1.7  -debug -gtk +readline 2,825 kB 

Total size of downloads: 7,960 kB

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RE: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 January 2006 12:42
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to safely unmerge a package
 
 
 On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 14:25:00 +0200, Catalin Grigoroscuta wrote:
 
  But now, qpkg does not exist anymore, and I've read it was 
 replaced by 
  equery.
 
 qpkg does exist, but it has been deprecated, so it is not 
 installed into
 your path any more. You can move it to /usr/local/bin from its current
 location of /usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-version/deprecated/qpkg/qpkg

Or you could link it?

# ln -s /usr/share/doc/gentoolkit-version/deprecated/qpkg/qpkg
/usr/bin/qpkg

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RE: [gentoo-user] [OT?] ram question

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Ryan Sims [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 14 January 2006 23:24
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT?] ram question
 
 
 My bios will let me change the FSB frequency (100, 133, 166 and
 200MHz), and then sets the ram by that number.

You could start at 100MHz and work your way up until your machine
becomes unstable.  Generally speaking I stay with the speed that the
memory is rated at - some of my hardware is a bit dated and would not
like to fry them for a relatively small overall speed benefit.

 I ran memtest86, it found errors in test #5 (Block move, 64 moves, 52
 of them), but I've read that tests 5 and 8 are sometimes squirrelly on
 Athlon systems.  Is there a way to tell in which stick the error is
 happening?  Or should I just test them each individually?

I would test them both individually.  There's an application which will
mark bad blocks so that they are no longer used by the CPU but I can't
remember its name . . . Of course if one of the sticks fails on
MEMTEST86+ then I would just bin it or return it for healthier sample.
It's not really worth the hassle trying to fix it.

On top of everything else mentioned with regards to memory speed and
settings for memory parity error checking, I found two things of
importance when I was trying to fix a box crashing at random on me:
1. The positioning of the sticks is important - follow your Mobo OEM's
recommendations.  With two sticks you may need to use memory slots 1 
3, as opposed to 1  2 or 1  4.
2. Certain memory sticks will only work happily with other sticks of the
same make/model/speed and size.  Mixing and matching has often caused
previously stable boxes falling apart on me.
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RE: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send email. Same error too.

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 January 2006 04:56
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New install, I still can't send 
 email. Same error too.
 
 
 On Wednesday 18 January 2006 22:10, Glenn Enright wrote:
 
 
  Some ISPs may also require your alias to be a specific 
 thing, eg your real
  name, or the same as your email address. Silly but true.
 
 
 
 Can you tell me where this is?  I read off to my ISP what I 
 have in my 
 settings and they said it was correct.  Thing is, it works in 
 Kmail, same 
 settings too.  That is what is so confusing to me, maybe 
 everybody else too.  

Kmail has a tab under its settings which you can use to test what
authentication method the mailserver responds to.  It starts from the
most secure and works its way down the list until the server gives a
positive response.  It may be worth checking that security tab in Kmail
(or whatever it is called - not at a Linux machine right now) and use
the same method with Mozilla.  Some ISP's could tighten up their SMTP
policies and mailserver implementation without providing explicit
instructions to their users.

Things can get more complicated when ISP's start acquiring each other's
business and try to amalgamate their mailserver addresses.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Old kernel versions

2006-01-19 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Andres Becerra Sandoval [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 January 2006 10:52
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Old kernel versions
 
 
 On 1/19/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  On Thu, 19 Jan 2006 10:05:20 +0100, Andres Becerra Sandoval wrote:
 

[snip...]
  Why remove the current version only to reinstall it?
  emerge --prune gentoo-sources will remove all but the latest.
 
  It's also faster to remove the directories from /usr/src 
 before unmerging
  them. You'll need to remove them manually anyway as unmerge 
 -C/P doesn't
  remove the compiled files.

Also it doesn't remove the source distpackages, or the lib/modules for
the particular kernel version.  There may be a script lurking somewhere
in the forums, but I remove these manually out of habit.
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RE: [gentoo-user] emerge world?

2006-01-17 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Rumen Yotov [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 14 January 2006 19:19
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] emerge world?
 
 
[snip...]
 Generally speaking you first unmerge all blocking packages, then
 emerge poppler (which replaces xpdf).

I had missed that!  Are you saying that if poppler has been emerged
there's no need to re-emerge xpdf?  I didn't know that and I re-emerged
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RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 January 2006 03:20
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
 
 
 On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote
 
  This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option.
 
   Huh???
 
 [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2
 usermod: invalid option -- a
 Usage: usermod  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...]
 [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] [-l new_name]
 [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name
 
  I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of -a in usermod.  I use
 gpasswd with the -a option.  Is that what you meant?

No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G if you want
to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user.

What happens when you run:
# usermod -a audio user2

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RE: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Steve Wilson [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 11 January 2006 12:42
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] remove suse, install gentoo
 
 
 box: Prostar 2.8Gig ProStar Laptop  w/60 Gig, 7200 rpm hard 
 drive, 1 Gig Ram
 Current configuration:
 XP factory installed on 30gig partition
 Suse v9.0 installed on 20gig partition ext2,  1 Gig SWAP
 
 Goal:
 1. Remove Suse.
 2. Format 20 gig with Reisersf
 Leave Grub
 Install Gentoo
 Install VMware.
 
 Question:
 Can I install Gentoo over Suse or should I start over on a 
 clean hard drive.
 
 Option I am considering:
 Start with a new hard drive, install Gentoo, VMware and then 
 run XP as a 
 virtual machine.
 Please advise.
 
 Background:
 I have installed Gentoo from Stage1 on a P3 600 Compaq Deskpro EN and 
 Kubuntu on another Compaq Deskpro EN.
 But consider myself a Gentoo novice.
 
 This is my first email to the list.
 Thanks in advance for any help,

Welcome to the list Steve!  :-)

As you probably know there's more than one ways to skin a cat, so I only
express my preferences here;  yours could be entirely different.  I
would leave the factory installed WinXP alone.  Back up and thereafter
remove all personal files and data from My Documents/Music/etc.  Use
Qtparted or Partition Magic, or whatever to shrink it down to 10-12G.
Make sure that you defrag it a few times (before each successive
shrinking).

Then install Gentoo in the remaining space - preferably in primary
partitions (it may give you an infinitesimally small increase in drive
access/read/write speed).  Assuming you are using the default three
partition installation, then have swap first, root second, then an
extended partition and in logical partition(s) you can fit home if you
want it separately and boot last.  Bringing Grub up could take an extra
second but running the rest of the system should benefit
proportionately.

You can also create a vfat partition (personally I would put it on the
second drive) and map all applications in WinXP to use that to save My
Docs/Music/etc.- This would be your shared partitions to be able to
access files from all OS'.

With 1G RAM I would not have a swap partition any larger than 120M.  As
a matter of fact even that could be an overkill, but you never know.  A
single swap partition would do nicely for both Linuxes (change your
/fstab accordingly).   Size:  a lot depends on what you use your system
for, how often you reboot/flush your swap, logs and how many buggy
applications you're running.  Just as an indication on a 256M RAM box I
am using a 145M swap partition which I have never seen filling up more
than 75M.  Even that only happened when Opera was caching all sort of
chinese type fonts like mad and OOo was compiling at the same time.
Otherwise even large compiles (KDE monolithic) struggle to use more than
65M.  For reasons mentioned above your mileage may vary.

Of course if you want to go multi-partition insane you could do what
I've done and install Gentoo spread across multiple partitions on two
drives/separate controllers to allow parallel access/processing by the
CPU.  A pain to back up but entertaining all the same if you like that
sort of thing!  8-D

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RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]

2006-01-12 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Boyd Stephen Smith Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 12 January 2006 15:38
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
 
 
 On Thursday 12 January 2006 03:57, Michael Kintzios 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote about 'RE: [gentoo-user] 
 su stopped 
 working [SOLVED]':
   -Original Message-
   From: Walter Dnes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
  
   On Tue, Jan 10, 2006 at 02:34:24PM -, Michael Kintzios wrote
  
This can be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option.
  
 Huh???
  
   [m3000][root][~] usermod -a -G audio user2
   usermod: invalid option -- a
   Usage: usermod  [-u uid [-o]] [-g group] [-G group,...]
   [-d home [-m]] [-s shell] [-c comment] 
 [-l new_name]
   [-f inactive] [-e expire] [-p passwd] [-L|-U] name
  
I RTFM'd, and I don't see any mention of -a in usermod.  I use
   gpasswd with the -a option.  Is that what you meant?
 
  No, I meant that the -a option should be used instead of -G 
 if you want
  to append as opposed to replace the group set of a user.
 
  What happens when you run:
  # usermod -a audio user2
 
 I'm fairly sure the -a option is a fairly recent addition to 
 usermod.  I 
 have it on my system (~amd64) provided by 
 sys-apps/shadow-4.0.14-r1 but 
 the latest stable (amd64 and x86) is only sys-apps/shadow-4.0.7-r4.
 
 Also, when I used -a, it was required to be /in addition to/ 
 supplimentary 
 groups passed to the -G flag, as Walter tried the first time.

Oops, sorry, I wasn't at my box to try it out.  I could bet that it was
part of the stable . . . 
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RE: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way

2006-01-11 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 10 January 2006 21:15
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] A New Linux Way
 
 
 On Tue, 10 Jan 2006 21:00:17 + (WET), Jorge Almeida wrote:
 
  Seriously, does someone find the talk in the site somewhat
  style-impaired? My limited domain of the English language 
 doesn't make
  me the best judge, but some phrases make me wonder about 
 how young the
  webmaster is, assuming that English is his first language...
 
 I thought it had been written by someone who had just been on 
 a marketing
 or management course. Plenty of buzz phrases with no real content.

And a p*ss poor management course at that.  Consider this:
The traditional model for operating systems is a company request model.
Saviour Linux uses a user request model in which users dictate what the
operating system turns into instead of a business committee. Now, the
users decide what will be, not businessmen.

In any business model users (ultimately) generate demand, which if
deemed worthy may entice suppliers to provide products/services.  In
this example the suppliers are (ultimately) the programmers and their
decisions are based on manifested user demand and which is evaluated by
programmers' personal preferences.  The evaluation of what is worthy to
spend development time on is a business decision (programming time has a
value whether rewarded by monetary means or not).  By virtue of the fact
that programmers are making business decisions they are acting as the
aforementioned businessmen.  If many programmers join a development
effort and make joint decisions they form, yep, that's right: a
business committee!

What he is implying but not articulating in his paragraph is the
not-for-profit aspect of the business model.  That does not change the
argument.  Decisions of value remain business decisions irrespective of
the accounting treatment (distribution) of economic profit.

It may after all not be a scam - just a superficially thought through
uni project . . .

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RE: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]

2006-01-10 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Beau E. Cox [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 09 January 2006 15:13
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Cc: Michael Sullivan
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] su stopped working [SOLVED]
 
 
 
 Yep!!! Not in the wheel group; put them back and all is well.
 
 Now I wonder when I messed that up... :)  :)

You didn't by any chance use the usermod command?  If you omit any of
the existing groups that the user is a member of (e.g. wheel) when using
the -G option, then the user will be removed from that group.  This can
be avoided if you use the -a (for append) option.  Easy mistake to do
especially if you are working on the console and do not copy and paste
the long list of groups that the user is currently a member of.
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RE: [gentoo-user] How to control permissions on / ?

2006-01-10 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 10 January 2006 15:15
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] How to control permissions on / ?
 
 
 On Tue, 2006-01-10 at 13:10 +0100, Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
  2006/1/9, kashani [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Jose Gonzalez Gomez wrote:
   Hi there,
  
   Can you control permissions on /? If so, how? I've found
  that I have the
   following in two different machines:
  
   proxy ~ # ls -ld /
   d-wxrt  19 root root 472 Nov 15 17:41 / 
   protos ~ # ls -ld /
   drwxr-xr-x  19 root root 440 mar 10  2005 /
  
  I installed a machine a few months ago, oct?, that had the
  same
  permissions as the first machine you list above. I never did
  figure out 
  why that machine had strange permissions, but a number of
  other people
  seem to have had the same issue around the same time. I've
  installed a
  number of machine since and haven't run into it again.
  
  In any case a chmod 755 / fixed it.
  
  Did you use the Gentoo installer?
  
  Best regards
  Jose 
 
 There's a Gentoo installer?  I thought that was called Me!

Ha, ha!  Yes, ME TOO!  :-D

Although I am convinced that ME TOO is a bit buggy. :-))

With regards to the original post isn't this perhaps controlled from the
umask setting in /etc/profile?  I am not currently at my machine to
check what's what, but I ran up to a permissions problem while trying to
emerge sox (http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=83331).  Still not
sure why the permissions of the particular directory were not as they
should have been on an old installation of mine, while everything went
fine on a newer box.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted Windowspartition

2006-01-09 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Sullivan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 08 January 2006 02:07
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: OT - Permissions on mounted 
 Windowspartition
 
 
   Yep, I asked this a couple of days ago, but the title 
 could be misleading:
   
   http://article.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.user/150416
   
   The trick is to allow others to access and read the 
 partition in your fstab. 
   Setting uid=222 allows the partition to be mounted with 
 r-x rights for all
   concerned.
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  I looked at man mount (as suggested in the link you sent 
 me) and then
  only mention of NTFS was the iocharset option.  How would I go about
  setting up a umask in /etc/fstab to accomplish this?
  
 
 Nevermind.  I figured it out.

Oops! Sorry, was getting too late to focus on the screen:  it's
umask=222 not uid!  (I am not at home now to post my fstab, but ask
again if you are having any problems).
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 January 2006 00:55
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 There is, set a suitable umask value. By default, NTFS partitions are
 mounted readable only by the user that mounted them. Setting umask=222
 makes them readable by everyone, but still writable by no-one 
 (although
 NTFS is usually mounted ro so this makes little difference). 
 See the NTFS
 section of man mount.

Thanks! I've read the manual and then tried different umask options.
Umask=222 seems the most reasonable for what I need.  I noticed that the
different subdirectories and files automatically inherit the allocated
NTFS partition access rights.  Is this how umask in fstab works
(recursively)?

On a hypothetical case where you want to give different access rights to
all/some subdorectories  files, do you have to set these individually
the first time after mounting the partition, use ACL's, or what else?

Sorry if my questions appear silly - I've always been confused by this
topic and its different permutations.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge sync

2006-01-06 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter
 Sent: 06 January 2006 10:40
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge sync
 
 
 On Fri, 06 Jan 2006 10:35:03 +0100, ddup1 wrote:
 
  hi
  
  why emerge sync is sometime very long, at the step update 
 portage cache,
  sometime it takes 1mn and sometime lot longer ?
 
 Portage problem. Will be better next release I hear. Search 
 the forums and
 search the newsgroup for portage, metadata, cache for more info. Most
 often, hangs at 50-51% while redoing KDE. Defrag or moving 
 /usr/portage to
 its own partition has been known to help. Read some of the posts.

My experience has been that defraging /usr/portage brought enormous
speed up, but just once or twice.  Soon after the darn thing slowed down
again.  Looking forward to the next portage version.  :-)
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Peter Ruskin [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 04 January 2006 22:49
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 
 
 I don't see your problem.  This is how my fstab shows ntfs:
 
 /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0

I'm lost!  What does posix=1 mean?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights

2006-01-05 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Stroller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 05 January 2006 13:32
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: k3b and now NTFS access rights
 
 
 
 On 5 Jan 2006, at 12:43, Michael Kintzios wrote:
 
  I don't see your problem.  This is how my fstab shows ntfs:
 
  /dev/hdf9 /mnt/win/o ntfs rw,umask=0,posix=1,users,nls=utf8 0 0
 
  I'm lost!  What does posix=1 mean?
 
  From `man mount`:
 
 Mount options for ntfs
 ...posix=[0|1]
If  enabled  (posix=1),  the  file  system  
 distinguishes between
upper and lower case. The 8.3 alias names are  
 presented as  hard
links instead of being suppressed.

Thanks!  I've got a looot of reading to do . . . (although it's more
interesting to talk it over?)

So if a suitable umask sorts out the mounting of ntfs partitions, what's
the recommended umask and fstab entries for a dvdrw,cdrw and
dvdrom,cdrom?

I note that Peter R has rw on this ntfs - is this needed for captive to
work or what's the trick here?
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RE: [gentoo-user] k3b access rights

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 03 January 2006 08:31
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] k3b access rights
 
 
 I don't understand what your problem is, sorry. But I think that's
 because you haven't actually said what your problem is, or 
 whether it's
 with K3b or general use of the drive.

Apologies, I was so immersed in it all that I _naturally_ expected
everybody else to be able to read my mind!

 You don't mount the cd/dvd in order to write to it with K3b (or
 whatever); iirc the application uses raw device access, but 
 whether that
 is correct or not, you unquestionably don't mount the device to use a
 burning program. Nor do you mount the drive in order to play 
 an audio CD
 (which also uses raw device access, which requires that the 
 device *not*
 be mounted).

Thanks, I think I might have mounted the disk and then tried to delete
something on it.

 Second, for general use (video viewing, game playing, etc) 
 what you most
 likely want is the users (note the s at the end) option, which
 allows any user to mount/unmount the drive, as opposed to just one:
 
 from man mount:
 
  user   Allow  an  ordinary  user  to mount the file system.  The name
 of the mounting user is written to mtab so
  that he can unmount the file system again.  This
 option implies the options  noexec,  nosuid,  and  nodev
  (unless overridden by subsequent 
 options, as in the
 option line user,exec,dev,suid).
 
 users  Allow  every  user to mount and unmount the file system.  This
 option implies the options noexec, nosuid,
  and nodev (unless overridden by 
 subsequent options,
 as in the option line users,exec,dev,suid).

So if I want a single user at-a-time to be able to mount the DVD drives
I just enter user?  From memory I think I had concluded that adding the
uid was necessary for CDROMS and NTFS/VFAT fs partitions, otherwise it
was asking for fs type, or was coming up with only root can do that
type of errors.  Need to try this again and make some notes.

The problems that I have are probably two-fold.  The generic one is that
I am not sure I have the correct mount options in /etc/fstab and that I
created the /mnt/cdrw, /mnt/cdrom1 etc. mountpoints with the correct
access rights.  What are the default mount options and /mnt/mountpoints
access rights for DVD writer and DVDROM?  Ditto for NTFS?

The specific one is that I tried to delete a folder from a re-writable
CD: a)while I was browsing it in konqueror and b)using k3b, but it
couldn't do it.  I'll try again when I get home to see if it behaves as
expected after I ensure that it has not been mounted.
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RE: [gentoo-user] need help with kmail

2006-01-03 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Dale [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 03 January 2006 16:11
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] need help with kmail
 
 
 Hi,
 
 Have you tried to re-emerge kmail or kdepim if needed?  Maybe if you 
 deleted something it needed, that would put it back.  It is 
 strange that 
 this thing is giving you fits.
 
 Dale
 :-)

 . . . and run devdep-rebuild to hopefully pick up any broken
dependencies.
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[gentoo-user] k3b access rights

2006-01-02 Thread Michael Kintzios
  . . or at least this is what I suspect being wrong:
==
IDE DVD-ROM x16   /dev/hdb  660 root.cdrom  666.root.cdrom
PHILIPS DVD8421/dev/hda  660 root.cdrom  666 root.cdrom
==

==
cdrdao 1.2.0  /usr/bin/cdrdao  4711 root.root   no change
cdrecord 2.1  /usr/bin/cdrecord  0755 root.root  no change
==

This is my fstab:
==
# DEVICES
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrw   iso9660 noauto,rw,uid=1001,user 
0 0
/dev/cdrom1 /mnt/cdrom1 iso9660 noauto,ro,user  
0 0
==

BTW, when I mount the cdrw I get this message:  mount: block device /dev/cdrom 
is write-protected, mounting read-only.  This is the /mnt/cdrw access rights:
==
drwx--   2 root root   48 Nov 19 14:33 cdrom1
dr-xr-xr-x   1 suzy root 2048 Jan  2 19:44 cdrw
==
(suzy is the uid=1001)  I would like to have the DVD mountable by other uid's 
too, but having just user in fstab causes problems mounting it as a simple 
user.

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RE: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: capsel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 27 December 2005 21:16
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] grub,sata,savedefault and error 27
 
[snip...]
 I think it should be EOT for now... I've checked if savedefault works
 from command line of /sbin/grub on different machine (@home) and it
 doesn't, but it works in config file.

Indeed, savedefault is a grub.conf entry;  the /sbin/grub shell command
you could be looking for is grub-set-default.
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RE: [gentoo-user] No X interface...

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Cláudio Henrique [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 28 December 2005 11:10
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] No X interface...
 
 
 Hi there,
 
 After a overheat, my computer does not work under X interface. I start
 my system without error messages, but when I try to startx, the screen
 goes black, and only reseting the computer the system is restored. Not
 even a /var/log/Xorg.0.log output is generated. The same problem
 occurs if I use a LiveCD, I've tried Kurumin and Linspire so far.

Could it be that the video card was fried?  Was it overclocked?

 http://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-p-2987382.html#2987382

Unless I'm mistaken your video card is not being initialised.  If you
tried different LiveCD's and it now fails to come up, then hardware
failure of card or controller chip are suspect.

Finally, from a software perspective I assume that there are no lock
files created which are relevant to the video card and which might need
deleting?  Someone with more knowledge in this area may be able to offer
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RE: [gentoo-user] ssh and tar combined?

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 28 December 2005 14:22
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] ssh and tar combined?
 
 
 
 On Dec 28, 2005, at 2:04 AM, Alexander Skwar wrote:
 
  Mick schrieb:
 
  Ideally I would like to connect and tar | scp the directories/ 
  files from one
  box to another in a single motion.
 
  Use ssh instead:
 
  tar | ssh [EMAIL PROTECTED] cat  foo.tar
 
 or ssh sourcebox tar -czvf - /path/to/be/backed/up | dd  
 of=target.tar.gz
 
 this will ssh into the other box, create the tar to stdout, pipe  
 stdout from the ssh stream to dd, who's default input is stdin, and  
 output the file.

Thanks Alexander, I'll try it out when I get home.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh and tar combined?

2005-12-28 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Mariusz Pêkala [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 28 December 2005 08:20
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: ssh and tar combined?
 
 
 On 2005-12-28 07:29:31 + (Wed, Dec), Mick wrote:

  What does not a regular file mean? :=@
 
 Do an 'ls -l /mnt/sda14/sda5_var.tmp and the first character 
 on the left
 will tell you what kind of file is this.

I have a devilish suspicion that I have been trying to scp a symlink!
8-/  I think that I urgently need some sleep before I do something I
will soon regret.
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[gentoo-user] artsd segfaults and emerge noatun fails

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Kintzios
I decided to update my KDE through an emerge -uDpv world and two thinks 
happened.  The emerge failed with the following error and also artds segfaults 
everytime I logon (it won't initialise).  Trying to start artsd manually also 
fails.  This is the emerge error:
=
ast-align -Wconversion -Wchar-subscripts -Wall -W -Wpointer-arith -DNDEBUG 
-DNO_DEBUG -O2 -O2 -march=prescott -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe -Wformat-security 
-Wmissing-format-attribute -Wno-non-virtual-dtor -fno-exceptions -fno-check-new 
-fno-common -DQT_CLEAN_NAMESPACE -DQT_NO_ASCII_CAST -DQT_NO_STL -DQT_NO_COMPAT 
-DQT_NO_TRANSLATION-o noatun -R /usr/kde/3.4/lib -R /usr/kde/3.4/lib -R 
/usr/qt/3/lib -R /usr/lib -no-undefined -L/usr/kde/3.4/lib -L/usr/qt/3/lib 
-L/usr/libnoatun.la.o libkdeinit_noatun.la
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/common/libartsgui.la' 
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/kde/libartsgui_kde.la'
 seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/modules/libartsmodules.la'
 seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/common/libartsgui.la' 
seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/gui/kde/libartsgui_kde.la'
 seems to be moved
libtool: link: warning: 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/arts/modules/libartsmodules.la'
 seems to be moved
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsgui.so, may conflict 
with libstdc++.so.6
/usr/lib/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu/3.4.4/../../../../i686-pc-linux-gnu/bin/ld: 
warning: libstdc++.so.5, needed by /usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsgui.so, may conflict 
with libstdc++.so.6
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamInit()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::Loader_stub::loadObject(Arts::TraderOffer)'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::stop()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamEnd()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamEnd()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::autoSuspend()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::Loader_stub::traderEntries()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::Loader_stub::dataVersion()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamInit()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsbuilder.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::Loader_stub::modules()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::streamStart()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::autoSuspend()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodulesmixers.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk 
to Arts::StdSynthModule::start()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::start()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::streamStart()'
/usr/kde/3.4/lib/libartsmodules.so: undefined reference to `virtual thunk to 
Arts::SynthModule_stub::stop()'
collect2: ld returned 1 exit status
make[3]: *** [noatun] Error 1
make[3]: *** Waiting for unfinished jobs
make[3]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/noatun/app'
make[2]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[2]: Leaving directory 
`/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3/noatun'
make[1]: *** [all-recursive] Error 1
make[1]: Leaving directory `/var/tmp/portage/noatun-3.4.3/work/noatun-3.4.3'
make: *** [all] Error 2

!!! ERROR: kde-base/noatun-3.4.3 failed.
!!! Function kde_src_compile, Line 173, Exitcode 2
!!! died running emake, kde_src_compile:make
=
Can you please help me fix it?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Backups

2005-12-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Neil Bothwick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 15 December 2005 19:16
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Backups
 
 
 On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:53:27 -0700, Richard Fish wrote:
 
  My personal favorite for my desktop and laptop is using 
 'dar' with big
  USB hard drivesbut that's what works well for me.
 
 I use rdiff-backup, which is ideal for backing up automatically to a
 hard drive. I run it from cron, hourly on critical 
 directories, daily on
 the rest. I then have a weekly cron script that compresses the backup
 directories with squashfs and writes them to ISO images ready 
 for writing
 to bootable DVDs. It makes restoring individual files very easy, and a
 completely hosed system can be fixed because the DVDs are bootable.

If you get a minute, a detailed wiki howto would be useful for some of
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RE: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Willie Wong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 December 2005 00:32
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] GCC-3.4 update: python error...
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 06, 2005 at 08:49:29PM +0100, Holly Bostick wrote:
  Jarry schreef:
  
   What does 'gcc-config -l' say?
   
   
   obelix ~ # gcc-config -l /usr/bin/gcc-config: line 632: 
   /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6: No such file or 
 directory * 
   /usr/bin/gcc-config: Profile does not exist or invalid 
 setting for 
   /etc/env.d/gcc/i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.3.6 [1] 
 i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4 
   [2] i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardened [3] 
   i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopie [4] 
   i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednopiessp [5] 
   i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4-hardenednossp obelix ~ #
   
   Jarry
   
  
  I think what happened to you is that you didn't set a new gcc to be
  used, then removed the one that was being used (3.3.6).
  

Nope, I noticed the same thing on my machine this morning.  I am dead
certain that after migrating to gcc-3.4 and used gcc-config to change to
the new gcc-3.4, before I removed gcc-3.3.*:
=
# gcc-config i686-pc-linux-gnu-3.4.4
# env-update  source /etc/profile
=

Then checked that gcc-3.4 had been selected, but this morning it was not
there  . . . spooky!

I had to repeat the above steps to reset it, before I could update my
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: dmesg yes fdisk no - new HDD

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 Sent: 07 December 2005 12:47
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: dmesg yes fdisk no - new HDD
 
 
 Bill Roberts [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Try disconnecting the atapi cdrw temporarily. Can fdisk see 
 it then??
 
 I had tried that too.  And no it didn't make a difference.  I can't
 post dmesg from that since something worse has happened.  Spelled out
 in thread:
   Subject:  Yikes,  what have I done  3 1 seconds beeps on boot
 
 So I'll need to get that figured out before retrying the new drive.

I assume that you have entered into and reset your BIOS settings to
probe and recognise the new devices and their order, every time you
connect/disconnect a device from the box?  Most modern mobo's do so
automatically, but occassionally require that you manually intervene (I
know I had to do so a couple of times)
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RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 Sent: 07 December 2005 02:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds 
 beeps on boot
 
 
 I've been tinkering around with installing a new hdd for the 
 last 1/2 hr 
 or so, suddenly on shutdown I hear 3 beeps come from the computer I'm 
 working on.  Attempts to reboot bring 3 1 second beeps now too.
 
 One by one, I've disconnected each drive, beginning with the one I've 
 been tinkering with.  There are currently 3 HDD and 2 cdroms in there.
 
 What led to this situation:
 I had disconnected both cdroms and connected the new hdd on that 
 controller as single master.  Booted up without problems.  
 The new drive 
 appeared in dmesg but fdisk knew nothing about it.
 
 I've been using Lilo lately and I noticed a line in lilo.conf 
 that told 
 the kernel some bad info since I had disconnected cdroms and 
 installed 
 the new drive: (On the kernel line amongst other things)
 `hdc=ide-scsi'
 
 That was the same device noted in dmesg as belonging to the new drive.
  hdc: WDC WD3000JB-00KFA0, ATA DISK drive
 
 I removed that from lilo.conf and reran lilo then shutdown.  
 As mach was 
 shutting down I heard those three beeps.  Now I get the beeps 
 when I try 
 to boot and no bootsky.
 
 Its an intel D850MV mobo and on intel pages it tells me 3 
 beeps mean a 
 memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the 
 memory cards, 
 also tried booting with first one then the other mem card (2 
 256 cards). 
   No change in beeps.
 
 I even tried booting without any installed... I'm not sure if 
 that would 
 invoke the beeps anyway, but I did hear them.
 
 Its been my experience thru life that usually, in fact nearly 
 always, if 
 you have trouble with something after working on it, its very very 
 likely to be something you just did or had your hands on.  I'm still 
 wanting to believe this is something simple I did with the drive.
 However after disconnecting all drives ribbon and power 
 source, I still 
 hear the beeps, and don't get past that.

If the mobo manual says 3 beeps is a memory problem then that's that.
MEMTEST 86 should pick up anything wrong with it.  On the other hand you
may have disturbed any jumpers/ribbons associated with the memory
controller.  In my limited experience, all beeps that I've experienced
were related to either dodgy, or incompatible memory modules.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 seconds beeps on boot

2005-12-07 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Billy Holmes [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 07 December 2005 15:27
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Yikes, what have I done 3 1 
 seconds beeps on boot
 
 
 Harry Putnam wrote:
  memory problem.  Just in case, I removed and reseated the 
 memory cards, 
  also tried booting with first one then the other mem card 
 (2 256 cards). 
   No change in beeps.
 
 doh. I totally missed that part of your email.
 
 you may need a chip in each slot. I can't remember how your 
 mobo works. 
 some like that, some don't care. So, taking out one memory chip might 
 not even work.
 
 however, it's possible that you discharged some static 
 electricity and 
 popped a memory chip. You really need the ability to put 
 those chips in 
 another mobo. At this point, you're going through the process of 
 elimination.

In the absence of another machine (and the risk of causing the same or
worse due to not earthing oneself onto the box frame first) MEMTEST 86
should do the trick of diagnosing the blown memory module.
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RE: [gentoo-user] fbsplash and console issues after udev

2005-12-06 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Daevid Vincent [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 06 December 2005 00:30
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] fbsplash and console issues after udev
 
[snip...]
 The loading screen with the progress bar works fine. If I hit 
 F2 to see the
 stuff going on, here's where it has issues..
 
 There is no background image (as there used to be prior to udev). 

I have the same problem, whereby the splash screen with the progress bar
is there, but there is no background image when I press F2.  I do not
experience the 1 margin problem though.  This probably doesn't help you
much, but I have noticed that error message you are getting went away on
my machine with the latest kernel.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge

2005-12-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 Sent: 02 December 2005 15:31
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Still not getting how to influence 
 compile flags with emerge
 
 
 I want to  influence how vim is compiled.  I'm told I need a compile
 option called: xterm_clipboard.  How do I tell emerge to enable that
 at compile time?
 
 I've been told its done with USE flags but it still isn't clear to mw
 how the details work
 
 I'm still not sure what emerge output really means when you run a
 pretend install and various flags are displayed with + or minus
 
   root # emerge -v -p -uD vim
 
   These are the packages that I would merge, in order:
 
   Calculating dependencies ...done!
   [ebuild N ] app-editors/vim-6.4 -acl -bash-completion -cscope +gpm
   -minimal +nls +perl +python -ruby -vim-with-x 4,752 kB
 
 Does it mean that the flags displayed are the only ones I can adjust?

As I understand it, yes.  To see which flags a particular package can
specify you can either run:
==
# emerge -uDpv package_name (just as you did above) 
==

or you could try the equery command of the gentoolkit, e.g.:
==
# # equery uses gnumeric
[ Colour Code : set unset ]
[ Legend  : (U) Col 1 - Current USE flags]
[ : (I) Col 2 - Installed With USE flags ]

 U I [ Found these USE variables in : app-office/gnumeric-1.2.0 ]
 - - libgda  : Adds GNU Data Access (CORBA wrapper) support for gnumeric
 - - gnomedb : unknown
 + + python  : Adds support/bindings for the Python language
 + + bonobo  : Adds support for gnome-base/bonobo (Gnome CORBA
interfaces)==

Of course all this and much more is well documented in the Gentoo guide:

http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Still not getting how to influence compile flags with emerge

2005-12-02 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: news [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Harry Putnam
 Sent: 02 December 2005 16:29
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: Still not getting how to influence 
 compile flags with emerge
 
 
 Michael Kintzios [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 
  Of course all this and much more is well documented in the 
 Gentoo guide:
  http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=2chap=2
 
 Thanks for the comments.  But don't be too quick about saying its all
 well explained in the manual.  I couldn't tell how to get at certain
 vim compile time flags from that.  Can you?  For example:

Sorry, I didn't mean it like that.  I meant all of what I said is well
explained in the manual.  When in doubt I check the different USE flags
here:

http://gentoo-portage.com/USE

 Which USE flag will make that +xterm_clipboard

This is a dependency flag which I guess can be flipped by first emerging
x11-apps/xclipboard.  Certain flags appear either because of your
default Gentoo use flags, others because of your generic flags in
/etc/make.conf, others because of specific package flag settings (in
/etc/portage/package.use) and others because they are being flipped by
dependencies with other packages.  The whole thing can soon get pretty
complicated, so it is not always easy to decipher.

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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Fish
 Sent: 30 November 2005 23:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing
 
 
 On 11/30/05, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  This is what I get from host 2 (the server):
 ...
   IfRequested  - Use encryption if the server requests it
 
 Shouldn't this line be commented out??

Quite possibly so, I'll try it when I get home.  Thank you.
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RE: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Home Network Printing

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: John Jolet [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 30 November 2005 20:14
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Home Network Printing
 
 one way you can do this is use the features of cups...for instance,  
 my macintosh has a laser printer attached: the cupsd.conf sys this:  
 Port 631, Listen /private/var/run/cupsd, BrowseAddress @LOCAL,  
 BrowseShortNames No, BrowseAllow @LOCAL, BrowseDeny ALL  and later
 Location /
 Order Deny,Allow
 Deny From All
 Allow From @LOCAL
 Allow from 192.168.1.51
 /Location
 
 all this allows all machines on the same subnet as my mac 
 (@LOCAL) to  
 browse the list of printers and allows all from the local subnet to  
 print, well, i've also explicitly allowed my laptop access.
 
 on the laptop, I also have Port 631, and not much else. I have NO  
 printers configured in my laptop...default gentoo install.  when i'm  
 on the net, it gets the broadcast from the mac and I can 
 print...when  
 i'm not, i have no printers at all.

Thanks John,

Let me understand this right:  Have you installed cups on the laptop?
Any printer drivers?  When you run localhost:631 in a browser on your
laptop, what do you see under printers when the laptop is connected to
the mac and what when it's not?  (assuming you restart cupsd on each
case to refresh its status).

PS. An OT question - I am really curious what is the default mac
firewall settings.  Can you please post the output of: # iptables -L -v
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RE: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Mrugesh Karnik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 December 2005 13:12
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] KDE 3.5
 
 
 Thiago Lüttig wrote:
  how do you installed it ? i mean, the emerge parameters ?? :D
 
 I just did emerge --udpate --deep world. It slotted 3.4 and 3.5, so I 
 first cleared out my distfiles to free up some space! Then, edited 
 /etc/rc.conf to set XSESSION=kde-3.5. After restarting 
 /etc/init.d/xdm, kdm-3.5 came up with entries for both 3.4 
 and 3.5. Some 
 packages are still being compiled. I'll keep 3.4 till all of them are 
 compiled and then unmerge 3.4.

If you have an old monolithic KDE install (in my case KDE-3.2.x) and
would like to unmerge it along with all the kde 3.2.x packages and
exclusive dependencies to save some space, how would you do it?  How
could one ensure that there will be no apps/deps out there, which will
try to re-emerge this old version afresh?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing

2005-12-01 Thread Michael Kintzios
Thank you Holly,

 -Original Message-
 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 01 December 2005 13:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Re: Re: Home Network Printing
 
[snip] 
 
 What I see is:
 
 I assume the printer is connected to the server--- but the server only
 allows connections from localhost (itself), and 192.168.0.2.

Yes on all counts.

 If 192.168.0.2 is not the network IP address of the client (host 1),
 then the connection is denied.

192.168.0.2 is the LAN address of the client (host 1).
 
 If the printer is connected to host 1... well, that only allows
 connections from localhost (itself). Connections from everywhere else
 are refused.

The printer is physically connected to host 2 which acts as the server
with IP address 102.168.0.3

 So what I would suggest is that the server allow connections from the
 network as a whole, or the specific network IPs of the 
 various networked
 clients.
 
[snip]
 
 So if you have more than one machine on the network, you 
 might consider
 changing the Allow From statements to read something like 
 
  Allow From 192.168.0.*

Each machine has only one NIC which connects them to the
router/LAN/Internet.  The router (netgear ADSL thingy) is 192.168.0.1
and acts both as the Internet gateway and the DNS for the machines on
the LAN.  I would rather allow access to explicit IP addresses, in this
case 192.168.0.2 which is the client.

Thanks for the heads up on the HostNameLookups On.  I'll try it
tonight - although setting the IP address would remove one more thing
for me to get wrong.  ;-)
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[gentoo-user] Home Network Printing

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Kintzios
Hi All,

I am sure that this is an easy thing to achieve, but for some reason I
seem to fail to get it going.  Probably because I do not completely
understand the logic.  The setup is as follows:

I have two boxen, hostname1.STUDY and hostname2.STUDY. hostname2 has the
printer connected to it via parallel port. The printer's name is
Compaq-HP.  Hostname2 can print locally without a hitch.

I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I set
the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept getting errors
telling me it can't resolve the address. So I changed it to the LAN ip
address (ipp://192.163.0.3/ipp)and it seems that it can now connect, but
it cannot find the printer:
=   
I [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Connecting to 192.168.0.3 on
port 631... 
I [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Connected to 192.168.0.3... 
D [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Getting supported attributes... 
E [21/Nov/2005:21:55:47 +] [Job 44] Destination printer does not
exist! 
E [21/Nov/2005:21:55:49 +] PID 15530 stopped with status 1!
=

lpstats shows both printers (local and remote):
=   
$ lpstat -t 
scheduler is running 
system default destination: Compaq-HP 
device for Compaq-HP: ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp 
device for DeskJet-930C: parallel:/dev/lp0 
Compaq-HP accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 
DeskJet-930C accepting requests since Jan 01 00:00 
printer Compaq-HP is idle.  enabled since Jan 01 00:00 
printer DeskJet-930C disabled since Jan 01 00:00 - 
Paused
=

Would you know why it can't resolve hostname2.STUDY?  Am I meant to add
the printer name on the ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp?

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RE: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Oliver Friedrich [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 November 2005 10:58
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
 
 
 -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
 Hash: SHA1
 
 Michael Kintzios wrote:
 
 
  I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I
  set the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept
  getting errors telling me it can't resolve the address.
 
 AFAIR the IPP-Adress has to be: ipp://[Host]/[PrinterName]
 in your case this would mean: ipp://hostname2.STUDY/Compaq-HP
 
 
  Would you know why it can't resolve hostname2.STUDY? Am I meant to
  add the printer name on the ipp://192.168.0.3/ipp?
 
 So... yes... :-)
 
 greets BeowulfOF

Thanks, I'll give it another go when I get home!

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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing

2005-11-25 Thread Michael Kintzios
 
 From:: Oliver Friedrich [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Home Network Printing
 Date: Fri, 25 Nov 2005 11:58:27 +0100

 Michael Kintzios wrote:
 
  I created a new printer on hostname1 and also named it Compaq-HP. I
  set the ipp address to ipp://hostname2.STUDY/ipp but I kept
  getting errors telling me it can't resolve the address.
 
 AFAIR the IPP-Adress has to be: ipp://[Host]/[PrinterName]
 in your case this would mean: ipp://hostname2.STUDY/Compaq-HP

I'm afraid I had no success.  I tried using the address as you suggested above 
but it says unknown host . . . perhaps I should add it in my hostname file, but 
my netgear router which acts as the nameserver should know where to go?

In any case, when I changed it to the IP address of hostname2 box (192.168.0.3) 
I got this:

I [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Connecting to 192.168.0.3 on port 631...
I [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Connected to 192.168.0.3...
D [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Getting supported attributes...
E [25/Nov/2005:20:23:13 +] [Job 56] Destination printer does not exist!
E [25/Nov/2005:20:23:14 +] PID 13299 stopped with status 1!


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RE: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install

2005-09-29 Thread Michael Kintzios

 -Original Message-
 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 29 September 2005 14:43
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 2005.1 Universal CD install
 
[snip]
 The quick
 compile of the older WMs is not to be sneezed at by any means, and
 WindowMaker and AfterStep are pretty usable out of the box, even for
 those who didn't 'grow up with' them, as many old-school users
 did. IceWM is for those who 'grew up with' Windows, and is probably a
 better choice for users who 'grew up with' Win95 and 98.

[OT warning] I wonder, are there any statistics for what WM's do people
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RE: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow

2005-09-28 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Pawe³ Madej [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 28 September 2005 12:25
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Update portage cache ... horribly slow
 
 
 Allan Spagnol Comar wrote:
  This cache is used to resolve all packages you want to 
 update,install
  or remove from your box; if you turn off this cache you 
 would need to
  do the same action to every emerge option; I believe that 
 is better to
  let it do just when updating portage tree  :)
  
  Holpe it helps, Allan
 
 Thx for fast answer.
 
 Ok I'll leave it as is, but maybe is there any way too speedup it? It 
 runs on my P3 800 / HDD 5400 rpm more that 10 minutes.
 
 Or it is working on every computer so slowly?

Be grateful you're not running my PIII 600MHz.  If you also are running
X with a browser, xmms, or mplayer and updatedb decides to join in, then
20 min to 1/2 hour is a possibility!  I'll make a mental note to measure
how long it takes next time I sync.
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RE: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights

2005-09-27 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Michael Kintzios [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 26 September 2005 21:50
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights
 
 
  From:: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
  Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Messed up mail access rights
  Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:19:25 +0100
 
  On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:04:13 +, Mick wrote:
Providing some basic information such as what mail 
 servers are you
using would be a big plus to get an answer from someone.
   Unfortunately it's a sendmail setup on a hosted account 
 and no info is
   forthcoming from the admin.  It seems like an mbox style mail
   implementation.  That's all I know about it I'm afraid.
  You could telnet into the server to see what the software identifies
  itself as.
 
 Thanks, this is what I got:
 
  telnet servername 25 for the SMTP server
 
 220-viv.XXX.com ESMTP Exim 4.50 #1 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 
 16:39:45 -0400
 220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport 
 unsolicited,
 220 and/or bulk e-mail.
 
  telnet servername 110 for the POP server
 
 +OK POP3 viva [cppop 19.0] at [XX.XX.XXX.XXX]
 
  telnet servername 143 for the IMAP server
 
 * OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] 
 viv.XX.com IMAP4rev1 2003.339-cpanel at Mon, 26 Sep 
 2005 16:45:38 -0400 (EDT)
 
 Is this enough to ascertain what the access rights ought to be?
 
 PS. What the recommended Gentoo telnet client?

The lot is also accessible via Horde's and squirrel mail web gui's - not
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RE: [gentoo-user] cdrom: open failed

2005-09-26 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Holly Bostick [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 25 September 2005 15:19
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] cdrom: open failed
 
 
 Carl Flippin schreef:
  I've recently done an install based loosely on the 1/3 method but
  using 2005.1 as the base. Everything works fine except for an error
  message which I get on bootup. Every time I boot, I get the message:
  
  cdrom: open failed
  cdrom: open failed
 
 I always assumed that this message (which I have also seen on 
 occasion)
 is because
 
 1) udev or /etc/fstab is attempting to mount the detected device
 (normal), 

I also get this message, despite not having set up my fstab to auto
mount the CDROM.  So it shouldn't be a mounting error; probably it is
related to probing the device.  Can't remember if there is a particular
kernel option that brings this about.  Interested to know what it means.
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Re: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Messed up mail access rights

2005-09-26 Thread Michael Kintzios
 From:: Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Messed up mail access rights
 Date: Mon, 26 Sep 2005 10:19:25 +0100

 On Sat, 24 Sep 2005 10:04:13 +, Mick wrote:
   Providing some basic information such as what mail servers are you
   using would be a big plus to get an answer from someone.
  Unfortunately it's a sendmail setup on a hosted account and no info is
  forthcoming from the admin.  It seems like an mbox style mail
  implementation.  That's all I know about it I'm afraid.
 You could telnet into the server to see what the software identifies
 itself as.

Thanks, this is what I got:

 telnet servername 25 for the SMTP server

220-viv.XXX.com ESMTP Exim 4.50 #1 Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:39:45 -0400
220-We do not authorize the use of this system to transport unsolicited,
220 and/or bulk e-mail.

 telnet servername 110 for the POP server

+OK POP3 viva [cppop 19.0] at [XX.XX.XXX.XXX]

 telnet servername 143 for the IMAP server

* OK [CAPABILITY IMAP4REV1 LOGIN-REFERRALS AUTH=LOGIN] viv.XX.com 
IMAP4rev1 2003.339-cpanel at Mon, 26 Sep 2005 16:45:38 -0400 (EDT)

Is this enough to ascertain what the access rights ought to be?

PS. What the recommended Gentoo telnet client?
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RE: [gentoo-user] USB modem

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Thanasis Papakonstantinou [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 September 2005 00:10
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: [gentoo-user] USB modem
 
 
 Can you recommend an external *USB* dialup PSTN modem, which 
 will work 
 100-90% in Gento 2.6.13r1 ?
 
 After failing to setup my laptop's mart link winmodem (it 
 can't be done, 
 i'll have to wait), a USB modem is the only solution

Sorry, I haven't a direct answer to your question, only a warning:
check that the supposedly external modem is a real external hardware
modem.  There's a few around which in reality are software winmodems
in-a-box.  You plug them in and then spend a lot of time wondering why
it doesn't work.  :-@

Googling around once you set your eyes on a particular USB modem usually
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RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Rupert Young (Restart) 
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 Sent: 22 September 2005 12:25
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: RE: [gentoo-user] System update problems
 
 
 Thanks. Unless anyone else has any suggestions I will try it.
 
 Can anyone else confirm this is the way to go before I try?

It depends how patient you are.  The suggested fix will bring your
machine up to an as new condition.  On the other hand, it might
unnecessarily rebuilt packages that may not be broken or need updating
(yet) and will take years to complete (well, it depends on how fast your
machine is :-)  That said I would think that after a whole year there
wouldn't be much left in portage, which has not a new ebuild?

As an alternative, if your machine is not totally hosed you could start
from the bottom up rebuilding the core packages and after a fresh
--sync, update the whole world.  Try re-emerging the gentoo toolkit:
gcc-config glibc binutils libstdc++.  Run # etc-update and # env-update
 source /etc/profile as required and rebuild portage; do another
--sync; and then emerge -upDv world to see what comes up in need for an
update.

However, if basic compilers, etc. are broken you will not be able to
re-emerge the toolkit and the solution suggested by Dave remains the
best option.
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RE: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo

2005-09-22 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Sascha Lucas [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 22 September 2005 13:01
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] idea about small footprint gentoo
 
 
  no
 
  what about stuff that doesn't run all the time? stuff that cro needs
  etc?
 
 I realy know what will run on such a system. Think of a router, or a 
 datacollector. Pleas tell me what is cro?

I believe he meant cron.

Besides cron jobs and associated executables, there's files which are
accessed intermittently and written/read from even more sparsely.
Unless you somehow log the file paths for all such interactions how will
you ever know what to delete and what not?  I guess you can keep backups
and experiment so that you don't find out something's missing the hard
way, next time you decide to reboot.
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RE: [gentoo-user] CUPS: Sharing printers via IPP

2005-09-21 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Nick Rout [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 20 September 2005 22:33
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] CUPS: Sharing printers via IPP
 
 
 HA!!! I just set up windows to print to cups direct (no samba) and may
 be able to offer some insights.
 
 to allow connection to the printer from your 192.168.0.0 network edit
 /etc/cups/cupsd.conf to include the following:

Has anyone tried to do this:
http://gentoo-wiki.com/HOWTO_print_winserver without SAMBA?
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RE: [gentoo-user] Replacing main harddisk

2005-09-20 Thread Michael Kintzios


 -Original Message-
 From: Paul [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
 Sent: 19 September 2005 19:48
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Replacing main harddisk
 
 
 On Monday 19 Sep 2005 18:22, S. ancelot wrote:
  Hi,
  Download linux sysrescue live cd on the web
  and use dd_rescue
  bye
 
 snip 
 Do you mean the install-x86-universal-2005.1.iso?  I could 
 not find any 
 sysrescue live cd listed.
 If I do a dd_rescue what would I do to get the initial 
 console working?

dd_rescue is a very good command for rescuing data from damaged media.
You use it just like the dd command, although it has different options
(read the documentation to familiarise yourself with its intricacies).
BTW, if you enable the creation of a log file you'll be able to know if
some/which of your original data is corrupt.  It may well be the case
that your data is not corrupt at all.

I had another thought about your console problem.  It seems to me that
symlinks got screwed up.  Did you by any chance tried to back up your
system while running it?  Not sure if I mentioned it, but the advised
way to create a complete drive/system back up is to use a LiveCD, so
that your OS is in a totally inert condition.  Otherwise you will be
copying a number of temporary files which are created only for the
particular session.

So, as a solution I suggest that you use a LiveCD (Gentoo, Knoppix,
sysresque, will do) and then execute any of the methods I mentioned to
back up your data.  Thereafter, replace the old drive, reset your BIOS
and boot up.

Good luck,
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