Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 May 2006 16:25:46 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: Om my (slow?) laptop I get: frame-buffer: 34 l/s rxvt-unicode: 12 000 l/s xterm: 4500 l/s Konsole: l/s gnome-terminal: l/s ^^^ _not_ faked :) Konsole runs

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-18 Thread Neil Bothwick
On Wed, 10 May 2006 14:21:11 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote: Well, here are some comparisons done with my test-prog (attached) Thanks for that, the program was useful for comparing the terminals I reviewed. I was going to do time cat /some/really/long/file but you saved me the subsequent

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-17 Thread Daniel Waeber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 02:56:46PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: I also looked for a drop-down term. Couldn't find one that I really liked, so just made a wrapper myself for aterm in fvwm using a borderless window,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-17 Thread Lord Sauron
On 5/16/06, Daniel Waeber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Willie Wong wrote: On Tue, May 16, 2006 at 02:56:46PM -0500, Penguin Lover Harry Putnam squawked: I also looked for a drop-down term. Couldn't find one that I really liked, so just made a wrapper

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-14 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, May 13, 2006 at 02:02:01PM +0200, Nagatoro wrote Bo Andresen wrote: On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Nagatoro wrote: Note that the prompt for konsole is blinking ie invisible every other second. What is the output of: # echo $PS1 \[\033[38;5;[EMAIL PROTECTED];5;39m\]\h

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Mick
On a limited resources box I have always used rxvt/aterm. I have also used Konsole but it slows things down. I am waiting for real transprency to work with aterm. Unlike pseudo-transparency which just looks pretty I think real transparency is useful as you can see the contents of other

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Nagatoro
Bo Andresen wrote: On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Nagatoro wrote: Note that the prompt for konsole is blinking ie invisible every other second. What is the output of: # echo $PS1 \[\033[38;5;[EMAIL PROTECTED];5;39m\]\h \[\033[38;5;25m\]\w \[$(ps_retc_f $?)\]$?

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Daniel Waeber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Mick wrote: On a limited resources box I have always used rxvt/aterm. I have also used Konsole but it slows things down. I am waiting for real transprency to work with aterm. Unlike pseudo-transparency which just looks pretty I think real

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Bo Andresen
On Saturday 13 May 2006 14:02, Nagatoro wrote: What is the output of: # echo $PS1 \[\033[38;5;[EMAIL PROTECTED];5;39m\]\h \[\033[38;5;25m\]\w \[$(ps_retc_f $?)\]$? \[\033[38;5;70m\]$(ps_job_f)\[\033[38;5;52m\]$(ps_dir_f)\n\[\]\D{%a %T} \[\033[38;5;77m\]$ \[\033[0;0m\] Holy crap! How on

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Matthias Bethke
Hi Neil, on Tuesday, 2006-05-09 at 19:33:51, you wrote: which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Almost exclusively Gnome-Terminal. Although I usually prefer console tools I never really got into screen usage, so tabs are essential. I don't have anything to complain about its

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Hemmann, Volker Armin
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 20:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? konsole, because of tabs and easy to customize. xterm, when

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-13 Thread Nagatoro
Bo Andresen wrote: On Saturday 13 May 2006 14:02, Nagatoro wrote: What is the output of: # echo $PS1 \[\033[38;5;[EMAIL PROTECTED];5;39m\]\h \[\033[38;5;25m\]\w \[$(ps_retc_f $?)\]$? \[\033[38;5;70m\]$(ps_job_f)\[\033[38;5;52m\]$(ps_dir_f)\n\[\]\D{%a %T} \[\033[38;5;77m\]$ \[\033[0;0m\]

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-12 Thread Nagatoro
Alexander Skwar wrote: Nagatoro wrote: But the deal breaker for me is the color support. It's not nearly as good as xterm or rxvt(-unicode) (here my bash prompt that is set to some nice colors is displayed as underlined in gnome-terminal and blinking in konsole). Could you maybe provide

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-12 Thread Bo Andresen
On Friday 12 May 2006 21:18, Nagatoro wrote: Note that the prompt for konsole is blinking ie invisible every other second. What is the output of: # echo $PS1 -- Bo Andresen pgpoZ6pVk0Gru.pgp Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Jim
Nagatoro wrote: Least: Konsole + Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support. Don't use the tabs since I like to be able to look at all (or many) sessions at once, so tabs makes no sense to me. The early versions of gnome-terminal were a little slow. Have you tried

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Nagatoro
Jim wrote: The early versions of gnome-terminal were a little slow. Have you tried gnome-terminal 2.14? It is *really* fast now. About 4x faster then xterm. If you use antialiased fonts, xterm gets *real* slow. xterm is more then 60x slower then gnome-terminal for scrolling a lot of

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-11 Thread Alexander Skwar
Nagatoro wrote: I have, see other posts, and it's about 1/2 as fast as rxvt(-unicode). Well, that might be so. But I seldom need *THAT* speed. I seldom have that much text flying by... But the deal breaker for me is the color support. It's not nearly as good as xterm or rxvt(-unicode) (here

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Nagatoro
Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Most: rxvt-unicode because it's the fastest I've used (and it has unicode support), one down

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
Konsole. Allows me to set a background. Nothing fancy, just a very light yellow wich I find appropriate for my eyesight. Also allows to customize text colors (directories, symlinks,etc). These two points are _really_ important--we're not talking eye candy here. I don't have much use for other

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Philip Webb
060509 Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Konsole : it fits well with my KDE desktop, is very easy to configure, has tabs when I need them, has a nice font (Fixed GNU 11/13); KDE starts 2

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread YoYo siska
On Wed, May 10, 2006 at 07:31:46AM +0100, Jorge Almeida wrote: Konsole. Allows me to set a background. Nothing fancy, just a very light yellow wich I find appropriate for my eyesight. Also allows to customize text colors (directories, symlinks,etc). These two points are _really_

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Alexander Skwar
Jorge Almeida wrote: I don't have much use for other frills: I open and close konsole windows via keyboard shortcuts, so it's easier to open a new window than a new tab (unless there is a way to open, close and cycle through tabs via keyboard, which I don't know...). To open a tab, hit

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 May 2006, YoYo siska wrote: I think the defaults are (at least here ;) Ctrl-Alt-N for new tab, Shift-Left or Shift-Right to switch tabs. Or just Settings-Configure shortcuts, I personaly don't like Shift-arrows much, I'm used to use them in apps inside the term (vim, ...) Not bad.

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Alexander Skwar wrote: Jorge Almeida wrote: I don't have much use for other frills: I open and close konsole windows via keyboard shortcuts, so it's easier to open a new window than a new tab (unless there is a way to open, close and cycle through tabs via keyboard, which

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Matthias Langer
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:51 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: [snip] Least: ... Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support. [snip] Gnome terminal used to be slow, but vte (the underlying library) has beem optimized heavily during the last few month. I've a simple program that measures

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Matthias Langer
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:58 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:51 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: [snip] Least: ... Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support. [snip] Gnome terminal used to be slow, but vte (the underlying library) has beem optimized

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Michael George
I use terminal from Xfce4. It's very much like gnome-terminal, which I like, but it appears to be much lighter. Next to that I just use plan ol' xterm when I don't need colors or tabs. It's about as light as you can get... If it makes a difference, I use ctwm as my window manager... On Tue,

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Nagatoro
Matthias Langer wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:58 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:51 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: [snip] Least: ... Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support. [snip] Gnome terminal used to be slow, but vte (the underlying library) has

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Justin Findlay
On 5/10/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Konsole. Allows me to set a background. Nothing fancy, just a very light yellow wich I find appropriate for my eyesight. Also allows to customize text colors (directories, symlinks,etc). These two points are _really_ important--we're not talking

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Matthias Langer
On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 16:25 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: Matthias Langer wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 13:58 +0200, Matthias Langer wrote: On Wed, 2006-05-10 at 07:51 +0200, Nagatoro wrote: [snip] Least: ... Gnome-terminal, slow, and in my opinion horrible color support. [snip] Gnome

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Nagatoro
Matthias Langer wrote: Maybe this has something to do with your screen resolution; as you are using a 'slow' laptop, i guess you are using 1024x768, while i use 1280x1024 in my athlon-xp 2400+. Same resluts (more or less) with 100 000 lines and new version. -- Naga -- gentoo-user@gentoo.org

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Jorge Almeida
On Wed, 10 May 2006, Justin Findlay wrote: + On 5/10/06, Jorge Almeida [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Konsole. Allows me to set a background. Nothing fancy, just a very light yellow wich I find appropriate for my eyesight. Also allows to customize text colors (directories, symlinks,etc). These two

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread Martins Steinbergs
On Wednesday 10 May 2006 09:54, Philip Webb wrote: 060509 Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I use konsole because of tabs and because of manner how to cut/copy/paste. And because

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-10 Thread lordsauronthegreat
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 11:33 am, Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I love YaKuake. It's better than Kuake in that it's just

[gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Neil Bothwick
I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before degenerating into a subset of the typical KDE/GNOME

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
Neil Bothwick wrote: which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I use gnome-terminal, as I use gnome. It has all the features I want (most importantly: tabs) and has very fast startup times (in Gnome 2.14). So, that's my most favourite. I don't have a least favourite, as I only

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Jure Varlec
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 20:33, Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I use yakuake. It's the the best drop-down terminal I've ever

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread b.n.
Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? At home I use rxvt. Simple, very fast on startup. At work I use konsole. I like the session

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Jeremy Olexa
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Vladimir G. Ivanovic
On Tue, 2006-05-09 at 19:33 +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I use gnome-terminal because it has tabs and color. I

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 07:33:51PM +0100, Penguin Lover Neil Bothwick squawked: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? rxvt (desktop) and aterm

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Daniel da Veiga
On 5/9/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Richard Fish
On 5/9/06, Neil Bothwick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? I use konsole, for no other reason than it is the default in my

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
Jeremy Olexa wrote: xterm and screen. Who needs tabs when you have screen? Me. What have tabs and screen to do with each other? It makes a lot of sense to use both. The use of one doesn't contradict the use of the other. In no way whatsoever. Alexander Skwar -- Bender: I get a good vibe

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Farhan Ahmed
Alexander Skwar wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: xterm and screen. Who needs tabs when you have screen? Me. What have tabs and screen to do with each other? It makes a lot of sense to use both. The use of one doesn't contradict the use of the other. In no way whatsoever. Can you tell me, why

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Anthony E. Caudel
Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before degenerating into a subset of

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Samuel Baldwin
b.n. wrote: At work I use konsole. I like the session thing it has and the tabs, since I use a lot of interactive shell apps like python-ipython-octave at work they often comes quite handy.Completely agreed. I find the tabs to be extremely helpfull as I'm constantly running interactive shell

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Alexander Skwar
Farhan Ahmed wrote: Alexander Skwar wrote: Jeremy Olexa wrote: xterm and screen. Who needs tabs when you have screen? Me. What have tabs and screen to do with each other? It makes a lot of sense to use both. The use of one doesn't contradict the use of the other. In no way whatsoever. Can

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Harald Arnesen
Jeremy Olexa [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Mark Kirkwood
Neil Bothwick wrote: I am writing a comparative review of a number of X terminals, so I thought I'd draw on the collective wisdom of this list. which are your most/least favourite X terminals, and why? Let's hope this generates some interesting comment before degenerating into a subset of the

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread b.n.
Harald Arnesen wrote: And xterm is mostly compatible with a real VT100, which other terminal emulators usually aren't. As someone that has never, ever used a real VT100, what's the purpose of this full emulation (apart from historical/nostalgic value, of course: and I value this, really)?

Re: [gentoo-user] OT - which X terminal do you use?

2006-05-09 Thread Willie Wong
On Tue, May 09, 2006 at 09:26:30PM +0200, Penguin Lover Jure Varlec squawked: I use yakuake. It's the the best drop-down terminal I've ever used, and I believe I tried almost all of them (there really aren't many). Off the top of my head, I recall yeahconsole and kuake. There's also tilda,