Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Thu, 7/3/08, Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Thursday, July 3, 2008, 12:44 AM
 On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
  Richard,
 
  I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:
 
  /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto
  noauto,ro,user 0 0
 
  i will paste it the output here if error occur. And
 about usb,what
  command should i add so that i can mount my
 thumbdrive?
 
 These days it's much more common to let the desktop do
 that step for 
 you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all
 references to 
 cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent
 mounts for 
 disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on
 your 
 desktop when you insert a usb drive.
 
 This works because fstab has no special qualities -
 it's just a list of 
 standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer.
 
 What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either
 gnome or kde
 
 -- 
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 alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com
 
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I'm using gnome desktop


Regadrds,
Norman


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Joerg Schilling
Alan McKinnon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs

Wrong:

UDF is just one filesystem amongst others and ISO-9660 is a general standard.

In special: Video DVD players do not even need to understand  UDF at all. They 
just search the first 1000 sectors for the *.IFO file signature and depend on 
the internal IFO structures.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Dale

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:

2008/7/2 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:


Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

Richard.

  

Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of
something else.  Also check for ivman as well.

Dale

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Dale,

Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It
seems that it is.

Regards,

Richard.
  


From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount a 
CD, DVD, etc.  I use hal and ivman myself.  I think supermount or 
something like that was another way but if I recall correctly supermount 
has sort of fell off the map.


Someone correct me if I am wrong here.  It's been a while and sort of 
missed a lot of changes.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Norman Hakim
Hi,

I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto
   noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output:

bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want to 
solve this problem.



Regards,
Norman


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
 Hi,

 I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto
noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output:

 bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

What command produced this error, and what user did you run it as? 
(whoami will tell you this if you are not certain if you are root or 
not). Then run the id command with the name of that user as argument 
and post the output back here.

Chances are you are doing it as a regular user who is not a member of 
the plugdev group

 If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how
 i want to solve this problem.

What command do you use to mount it manually, and as what user?


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Dale wrote:
  From what I recall, it takes hal and one other program to automount
 a CD, DVD, etc.  I use hal and ivman myself.  I think supermount or
 something like that was another way but if I recall correctly
 supermount has sort of fell off the map.

supermount was a Mandrake app and it has indeed fallen off the map. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
  What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either
  gnome or kde
 
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 I'm using gnome desktop

When you insert a CD, do you get an icon on the desktop that you can 
double click?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-03 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/3 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Hi,

 I've tried to add this line /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto
   noauto,ro,user 0 0 and this is the output:

 bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

 If i mount it manually it is ok,no problem at all. I have no idea how i want 
 to solve this problem.



 Regards,
 Norman

Norman,

I guess that when you mounted manually, you did it as root.

Linux is very safe, and won't let you do anything if you do not have permission.

To set which user can and can not do certain things, there is
something called groups.

Your user belongs to a group, and then it can do certain things, like,
for example, accessing your cdrom, playing audio, using usb, etc.

You can see a good explanation of this at chapter 11 of the Gentoo Handbook [1].

So, my guess is that when you created your user for daily use, you did
not include it in the cdrom group. Just type:

$ groups

As user to see which groups is your user in.

For example, this is my user and the groups it belongs to:

[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~ $ groups
wheel floppy audio cdrom video games usb portage plugdev ric

If you want to add your user to a new group, for example cdrom, do the
following:

1 - Check which groups you already belong with:
$ groups

(NOTE: you can skip this step, but it is useful to know which groups
are you already in.)

2- Log in as root.

3- Add your user to a new group with:

# usermod -a -G [goups] [user]

For this example, supposing your user is norman and you want to add
it to the cdrom group then:

# usermod -a -G cdrom norman


And that should be all.

Regards,

Richard.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
 On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
 person who wants to
  learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
  But, back to the problem:
 
  Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
 manually and
  paste the output here:
 
  # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
 
  Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)
 
 Or:
 
 $ dmesg | grep CD
 
 and:
 
 $ ls -la /dev/cd*
 
 -- 
 Regards,
 Mick

Dear Mick  Richard,

This is the output after i mount it manually:

 mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

Regards,
Norman


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Eduardo Otubo
Well,

I think you did it, man!
Just check out your /mnt/cdrom and see if your files are there :-)

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 8:29 AM, Norman Hakim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA


 --- On Mon, 6/30/08, Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Mick [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Monday, June 30, 2008, 4:50 PM
 On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
  Hi again,
 
  In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a
 person who wants to
  learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
  But, back to the problem:
 
  Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it
 manually and
  paste the output here:
 
  # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom
 
  Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

 Or:

 $ dmesg | grep CD

 and:

 $ ls -la /dev/cd*

 --
 Regards,
 Mick

 Dear Mick  Richard,

 This is the output after i mount it manually:

  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

 Regards,
 Norman



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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:


 NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA

 Dear Mick  Richard,

 This is the output after i mount it manually:

  mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected, mounting read-only

 Regards,
 Norman

Norman,

Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is just a
warning, and it is only extra information that the mount command
shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.

That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that your cdrom is
a read-only media.

If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
add this line to your /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

And that should work just fine.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to 
guess the filesystem type.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

 Sorry, but that's nonsense. It tells the mount command that it should try to
 guess the filesystem type.

 Bye...

Dirk


Dirk,

Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
format.


Regards,

Richard.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media 
is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted 
automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

Bye...

Dirk


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Eduardo Otubo
In fact,

To we get those things really automactly mounted, we need to install
and configure 'ivman' and 'hald'. For those who speaks portuguese I
have a great tutorial writen by a friend of mine:
http://nottooamused.wordpress.com/2007/02/27/montando-dispositivos-automaticamente-no-gnulinux/

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On Wed, Jul 2, 2008 at 2:31 PM, Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

 Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
 is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
 automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

 Bye...

Dirk




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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:
 I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF

 Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
 is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
 automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

 Bye...

Dirk


Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Dale

Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:

2008/7/2 Dirk Heinrichs [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  

Am Mittwoch, 2. Juli 2008 schrieb Ricardo Bevilacqua:


I am
sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
  

Yes, what I wrote what auto is for. mount will find out wether the media
is iso9660 or udf, but it will _not_ cause the media to be mounted
automatically when inserted, as you wrote previously.

Bye...

   Dirk




Dirk,

Sorry, I had misunderstood.

But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

Regards,

Richard.
  


Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of 
something else.  Also check for ivman as well.


Dale

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/7/2 Dale [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:

 Dirk,

 Sorry, I had misunderstood.

 But believe it or not, that way works fine for me. I insert a cdrom
 and gets automatically (or automagically maybe) mounted.

 I do not know, maybe is something about Gnome, but have no idea.

 Regards,

 Richard.


 Do you have hal installed?  It could be installed as a dependency of
 something else.  Also check for ivman as well.

 Dale

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Dale,

Yes, I have HAL installed. Is that enough to auto-mount a device? It
seems that it is.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Wed, 7/2/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Wednesday, July 2, 2008, 11:49 AM
 2008/7/2 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 
 
  NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA
 
  Dear Mick  Richard,
 
  This is the output after i mount it manually:
 
   mount: block device /dev/cdrom is write-proctected,
 mounting read-only
 
  Regards,
  Norman
 
 Norman,
 
 Good, you did it, you mounted your cdrom. That message is
 just a
 warning, and it is only extra information that the
 mount command
 shows you, so you do not have to face any surprises.
 
 That warning is only telling you (as I said before) that
 your cdrom is
 a read-only media.
 
 If you want cdrom to automatically mount when you insert a
 cd, just
 add this line to your /etc/fstab:
 
 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0
 
 And that should work just fine.
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard.
 -- 

Richard,

I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what command 
should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?


Regards,
Norman





  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Thursday 03 July 2008, Norman Hakim wrote:
 Richard,

 I will try add this line to my /etc/fstab:

 /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom      auto      noauto,ro,user     0 0

 i will paste it the output here if error occur. And about usb,what
 command should i add so that i can mount my thumbdrive?

These days it's much more common to let the desktop do that step for 
you. With a properly setup desktop, you can remove all references to 
cdroms and thumbdrives from fstab (leave only permanent mounts for 
disks etc in there) and rather use the icon that pops up on your 
desktop when you insert a usb drive.

This works because fstab has no special qualities - it's just a list of 
standard drives you want to have mounted on your computer.

What desktop do you use? I'm betting it's either gnome or kde

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-07-02 Thread Alan McKinnon
On Wednesday 02 July 2008, Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
 Yes, I know. That is how it is explained as an example in the Gentoo
 Linux Handbook Chapter 8 [1] and it has worked for me so far. I am
 sure that you could specify one file system type, but I am not too
 sure if this really works at any case because a DVD could not follow
 the ISO 9660 standard. As far as I know, some DVD's use the UDF
 format.

It only works if mount can figure out what the actual fs is at mount 
time. It does this by examining all known variations on the idea of a 
superblock. As long as a sane fs is in use, mounts invariably figures 
it out correctly.

btw, all dvds use UDF, ISO9660 is a cd fs

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-30 Thread Norman Hakim
  Norman,
 
  I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your
 first contact
  with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having
 a working Gentoo
  system without any previous Linux knowledge is a
 terrific start!
 
  I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to
 modify that file
  because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which
 is the reference
  to install this distribution.
 
  As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you
 manually
  created a text file under /etc called
 fstab. This simple text file
  contains all the necessary information to, let's
 say auto-mount your
  different devices.
 
  This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:
 
 
 
 ---
  /dev/hdc1   /boot
  ext2defaults,noatime  
  1 2
  /dev/hdc3   /
  reiserfsnoatime   
  0 1
  /dev/hdc2
  noneswapsw
  0
  0
  /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  auto   
 noauto,ro,user  0
  0
  /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
  autonoauto,rw,user
  0 0
  /dev/hda1
  /mnt/RICvfat   
 defaults,noatime,user
  0 0
  /dev/hdb2   /mnt/ZERO
  vfatdefaults,noatime,user 
  0 0
  /dev/sda1
  /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user
 
  # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
  proc/proc
  procdefaults  
  0 0
 
  # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at
 /dev/shm for
  # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
  # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable
 ramdisk, and will
  #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
  shm
  /dev/shmtmpfs   
 nodev,nosuid,noexec0
  0
 
 
 ---
 
  Usually, adding this
 
  /dev/cdrom
  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user
  0 0
 
  should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working
 =).
 
  If that does not work, then let us know and see if we
 can figure out
  something else. If it does work, then great! go on 
 enjoying Gentoo
  Linux.
 
  You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution
 that gave m the
  chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable
 and flexible, you
  always have control over your own system, that is very
 important.
 
  Regards,
 
  Ricardo.
  (Richard)
 
 
  [1]
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8
 
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i've grouped it into plugdev.

Richard,

After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user  
   0 0 it shows:

bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied
i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the 
properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i 
tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions 
could not be changed



Regards,
Norman






  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-30 Thread Eduardo Otubo
Hi again,

In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to
learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
But, back to the problem:

Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and
paste the output here:

# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

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On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 8:23 AM, Norman Hakim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  Norman,
 
  I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your
 first contact
  with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having
 a working Gentoo
  system without any previous Linux knowledge is a
 terrific start!
 
  I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to
 modify that file
  because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which
 is the reference
  to install this distribution.
 
  As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you
 manually
  created a text file under /etc called
 fstab. This simple text file
  contains all the necessary information to, let's
 say auto-mount your
  different devices.
 
  This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:
 
 
 
 ---
  /dev/hdc1   /boot
  ext2defaults,noatime
  1 2
  /dev/hdc3   /
  reiserfsnoatime
  0 1
  /dev/hdc2
  noneswapsw
  0
  0
  /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  auto
 noauto,ro,user  0
  0
  /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
  autonoauto,rw,user
  0 0
  /dev/hda1
  /mnt/RICvfat
 defaults,noatime,user
  0 0
  /dev/hdb2   /mnt/ZERO
  vfatdefaults,noatime,user
  0 0
  /dev/sda1
  /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user
 
  # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
  proc/proc
  procdefaults
  0 0
 
  # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at
 /dev/shm for
  # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
  # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable
 ramdisk, and will
  #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
  shm
  /dev/shmtmpfs
 nodev,nosuid,noexec0
  0
 
 
 ---
 
  Usually, adding this
 
  /dev/cdrom
  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user
  0 0
 
  should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working
 =).
 
  If that does not work, then let us know and see if we
 can figure out
  something else. If it does work, then great! go on
 enjoying Gentoo
  Linux.
 
  You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution
 that gave m the
  chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable
 and flexible, you
  always have control over your own system, that is very
 important.
 
  Regards,
 
  Ricardo.
  (Richard)
 
 
  [1]
 http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8
 
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 Cristian Gary,
 i've grouped it into plugdev.

 Richard,

 After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  
 noauto,ro,user 0 0 it shows:

bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied
 i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the 
 properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i 
 tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions 
 could not be changed



 Regards,
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-30 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/6/30 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Cristian Gary,
 i've grouped it into plugdev.

 Richard,

 After i type this command /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  
 noauto,ro,user 0 0 it shows:

bash: /dev/cdrom: Permission denied

Actually, the line

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  auto  noauto,ro,user 0 0

is what you need to add to /etc/fstab to get your cdrom working.
Sorry if I did not express myself correctly.


 i've login using root account. i've right clicked at the cdrom to see the 
 properties and under Permissions tab the Owner column stated unknown and i 
 tried to change the Access column to Read and Write it popup The permisions 
 could not be changed


Well, you can not change permissions to read and write, because the
cdrom is a read-only media. Yes, I know you are able to burn a CD or a
DVD, but it is not considered as writable media and it is mounted as a
read-only file system.

Just try by adding that line to your fstab, and if that does not work,
then try to mount it manually as Eduardo Otubo says:

# mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

And post the output here.


 Regards,
 Norman

Regards,

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-30 Thread Mick
On Monday 30 June 2008, Eduardo Otubo wrote:
 Hi again,

 In fact, just like Ricardo said, my congrats to a person who wants to
 learn Linux starting by Gentoo :-)
 But, back to the problem:

 Then, I insist at the point: As root, try to mount it manually and
 paste the output here:

 # mount /dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom

 Certify that /mnt/cdrom exists. :-)

Or:

$ dmesg | grep CD

and:

$ ls -la /dev/cd*

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-29 Thread Philip Webb
080629 Ricardo Bevilacqua wrote:
 2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 this is my first time using Linux
 and i never have any experience using it before.
 First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo system
 without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!
-- useful advice snipped -- 
 Gentoo is the only distribution that gave me the chance
 to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible,
 you always have control over your own system, that is very important.

I can only echo the last 3 lines  add my own sense of awe
that anyone new to Linux got Gentoo running at the 1st shot !

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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Fri, 6/27/08, Eduardo Otubo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Eduardo Otubo [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Friday, June 27, 2008, 10:04 AM
 Norman,
 
 First understand one thing: The terminal is always a good
 friend :-)
 Second, let's explain the fstab: Fstab (filesystem
 table) is a table
 with all the specification for you filesystem. Check this
 out:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab. To check the content of
 fstab just
 type this on you terminal:
 
 $ cat /etc/fstab
 
 (and paste here the result of this command)
 
 Third, to mount manually a device, you need to know first
 which device
 is what on your Linux. Usually, cdrom is some /dev/hdc
 thing. Then, to
 mount it:
 
 $ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom
 
 The strange things is: How did you installed gentoo without
 knowing
 this issues? :-)
 
 Hope this 2 cents helps you.
 

Eduardo,

I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:

/dev/hda1  /bootext2defaults 1  2
/dev/hda2  none swap  s  w 0  0
/dev/hda3  /ext3noatime  0  1
none /proc procdefaults   0  0
none /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0

Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using the 
handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first time 
using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.

Regards,
Norman






  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Ricardo Bevilacqua
2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
 Eduardo,

 I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:

 /dev/hda1  /bootext2defaults 1  2
 /dev/hda2  none swap  s  w 0  0
 /dev/hda3  /ext3noatime  0  1
 none /proc procdefaults   0  0
 none /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0

 Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using the 
 handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first time 
 using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.

 Regards,
 Norman

Norman,

I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact
with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo
system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!

I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file
because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference
to install this distribution.

As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually
created a text file under /etc called fstab. This simple text file
contains all the necessary information to, let's say auto-mount your
different devices.

This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:

---
/dev/hdc1   /boot   ext2
defaults,noatime1 2
/dev/hdc3   /   reiserfsnoatime 
0 1
/dev/hdc2   noneswapsw  
0 0
/dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user  
0 0
/dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy autonoauto,rw,user  
0 0
/dev/hda1   /mnt/RICvfat
defaults,noatime,user   0 0
/dev/hdb2   /mnt/ZERO   vfatdefaults,noatime,user   
0 0
/dev/sda1   /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user

# NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
proc/proc   procdefaults
0 0

# glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
# POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
# (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
#  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
shm /dev/shmtmpfs
nodev,nosuid,noexec0 0
---

Usually, adding this

/dev/cdrom /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user  
0 0

should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =).

If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out
something else. If it does work, then great! go on  enjoying Gentoo
Linux.

You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the
chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you
always have control over your own system, that is very important.

Regards,

Ricardo.
(Richard)


[1] http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-x86.xml?part=1chap=8
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-28 Thread Cristian Gary
are you in the group plugdev ??



On 6/29/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 2008/6/28 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Eduardo,
 
  I have checked the content of fstab and this is the result:
 
  /dev/hda1  /bootext2defaults 1  2
  /dev/hda2  none swap  s  w 0  0
  /dev/hda3  /ext3noatime  0  1
  none /proc procdefaults   0  0
  none /dev/shm  tmpfs   defaults   0  0
 
  Honestly, at first when i installed gentoo,i just installed it by using
 the handbook and i thought it will be no problem. Actually this is my first
 time using Linux and i never have any experience using it before.
 
  Regards,
  Norman


 Norman,

 I am glad to know that you have chosen Gentoo as your first contact
 with GNU/Linux. First of all, congratulations! having a working Gentoo
 system without any previous Linux knowledge is a terrific start!

 I assumed that you knew what fstab is and how to modify that file
 because it is explained in the Gentoo Handbook, which is the reference
 to install this distribution.

 As explained in the Gentoo Handbook chapter 8 [1], you manually
 created a text file under /etc called fstab. This simple text file
 contains all the necessary information to, let's say auto-mount your
 different devices.

 This is my fstab, I post it here as an example:


 ---
 /dev/hdc1   /boot
 ext2defaults,noatime1 2
 /dev/hdc3   /
 reiserfsnoatime 0 1
 /dev/hdc2
 noneswapsw
   0
 0
 /dev/cdrom  /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user
   0
 0
 /dev/floppy/fd0 /mnt/floppy
 autonoauto,rw,user  0 0
 /dev/hda1
 /mnt/RICvfatdefaults,noatime,user
 0 0
 /dev/hdb2   /mnt/ZERO
 vfatdefaults,noatime,user   0 0
 /dev/sda1
 /mnt/USBautonoauto,rw,user

 # NOTE: The next line is critical for boot!
 proc/proc
 procdefaults0 0

 # glibc 2.2 and above expects tmpfs to be mounted at /dev/shm for
 # POSIX shared memory (shm_open, shm_unlink).
 # (tmpfs is a dynamically expandable/shrinkable ramdisk, and will
 #  use almost no memory if not populated with files)
 shm
 /dev/shmtmpfsnodev,nosuid,noexec  
   0
 0

 ---

 Usually, adding this

 /dev/cdrom
 /mnt/cdrom  autonoauto,ro,user  0 0

 should be enough to have your cd-rom/cd-rw/dvd working =).

 If that does not work, then let us know and see if we can figure out
 something else. If it does work, then great! go on  enjoying Gentoo
 Linux.

 You learn a lot using Gentoo. Is the only distribution that gave m the
 chance to learn a lot about Linux. It is very stable and flexible, you
 always have control over your own system, that is very important.

 Regards,

 Ricardo.
 (Richard)


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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-27 Thread Norman Hakim


NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA 


--- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM
 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi all,
 
  i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have
 group my user account to all these groups and i can see the
 icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it
 nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these
 three drives.
 
  Regards,
 
  Norman
 
 
 Norman,
 
 Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might
 be a good
 idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those
 drives
 manually and see the result.
 
 
 Regards,
 
 Richard.
 -- 

Richard,

Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u explain 
to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually?

Thanks.

Regards,
Norman


  
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Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb

2008-06-27 Thread Eduardo Otubo
Norman,

First understand one thing: The terminal is always a good friend :-)
Second, let's explain the fstab: Fstab (filesystem table) is a table
with all the specification for you filesystem. Check this out:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fstab. To check the content of fstab just
type this on you terminal:

$ cat /etc/fstab

(and paste here the result of this command)

Third, to mount manually a device, you need to know first which device
is what on your Linux. Usually, cdrom is some /dev/hdc thing. Then, to
mount it:

$ mount /dev/hdc /mnt/cdrom

The strange things is: How did you installed gentoo without knowing
this issues? :-)

Hope this 2 cents helps you.

On Fri, Jun 27, 2008 at 3:25 AM, Norman Hakim
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:


 NORMAN HAKIM YAHYA


 --- On Thu, 6/26/08, Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 From: Ricardo Bevilacqua [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Problem mounting cdrom,cdrw,usb
 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
 Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 8:26 PM
 2008/6/26 Norman Hakim [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
  Hi all,
 
  i'm having problem to mount cdrom,cdrw,usb.i have
 group my user account to all these groups and i can see the
 icons of cdrom,cdrw,usb but once i double clicked to open it
 nothing happen. I suspect there is mounting problem to these
 three drives.
 
  Regards,
 
  Norman


 Norman,

 Maybe you have to check your fstab (posting it here might
 be a good
 idea). If that is right, then you should try to mount those
 drives
 manually and see the result.


 Regards,

 Richard.
 --

 Richard,

 Actually i'm really new to this Gentoo Linux and also Linux world,can u 
 explain to me how to check the fstab? and how to mount those drives manually?

 Thanks.

 Regards,
 Norman



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