On Sunday 12 June 2011 13:12:51 David W Noon wrote:
You should see this reply correctly threaded to your message, provided
you are not reading the mailing list through Usenet downstream from
the bofh.it server.
Indeed. Thanks.
--
Rgds
Peter
On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[...]
Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
breakage.
[...]
I hope all is clear now
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On Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:06:00 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
On Saturday 04 June 2011 23:22:00 David W Noon wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re:
[gentoo-user
On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 11:02:13AM +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:
On Saturday 04 June 2011 20:31:35 David W Noon wrote:
I'm reading it a bit late because I was doing a full system backup of my
own newsserver system (~40 gigs) with the cron jobs all stopped,
including the one that pulls
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
Every single GUI MUA I ever
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun
Apparently, though unproven, at 12:43 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
I see room for a KDEPIM fork from the 4.4 codebase in maintenance mode
that does not add deep features.
Thanks, Alan. Of course kmail is out of the question, as it requires a
ginormous application
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:01:22PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Sunday 05 June 2011 06:43:37 Indi wrote:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 11:46:49AM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 23:59 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
A victim of release early, release often? :-)
Yes, definitely.
One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
been willing to bite that bullet quite yet. At least it's
helped me temper my obsessive tendencies a bit
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look at
(and a huge
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
at. Heh, reminds me of my ex -- he was very pleasant to look at
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
A victim of release early, release often? :-)
Yes, definitely.
One of these days I'll switch back to stable, just haven't
been
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:23:50PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:17 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
at. Heh,
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 02:31:21PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 13:57 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 01:34:37PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
A victim of release early, release often? :-)
Yes, definitely.
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
way around. Every now and then I'll delete the ~ and type emerge
-vauND world, it always looks
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
Never did actually switch from testing to stable, it's always the other
way around. Every now and
On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an instant, unlike
many others.
My experiences with
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 13:28:40 Indi wrote:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 12:41:42PM +0100, Mick wrote:
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 12:17:08 Indi wrote:
If I were driven strictly by aesthetic concerns qt and kde4
might be my choices, as they can be extremely pleasant to look
at. Heh, reminds me of
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 16:43:34 Tanstaafl wrote:
On 2011-06-04 5:10 PM, Indi wrote:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with IMAP. It happens in mutt as well, but pretty
rarely and mutt can be killed and started fresh in an instant,
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 14:50:00 Indi wrote:
On Sun, Jun 05, 2011 at 03:11:04PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 14:44 on Sunday 05 June 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
Yes, probably I'm unlikely to do it...
Never did actually switch from testing to stable,
On Sun, 5 Jun 2011 15:11:04 +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
IIRC the approved way to do it is set arch to stable then just leave it
alone for 6 months letting packages catch up. Keep an eye out for
security bugs but otherwise do nothing. After a while emerge world will
show a list that looks like
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 01:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
Oh, so when it gets broken, I need to find the message before that to
see where it got messed up. Sorry to use
David W Noon wrote:
Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
Ya'll lost me long ago. What exactly is past confusion anyway? I think
that is where I am now.
Dale
:-) :-)
On Sun, 05 Jun 2011 21:30:01 +0200, Mick wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
On Sunday 05 Jun 2011 19:59:59 David W Noon wrote:
[snip]
Are we all confused enough for this weekend? ... :-)
Ha, ha! I'm more than others it seems!
It has been a knotty problem
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
Stroller wrote:
On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
…
What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail
client here follows these conversations as threads. For some reason,
recently the threads are getting broken as if
Apparently, though unproven, at 10:35 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Mick did opine
thusly:
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
Stroller wrote:
On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
…
What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail
client here follows
Am Sat, 4 Jun 2011 09:35:32 +0100
schrieb Mick michaelkintz...@gmail.com:
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 04:27:03 Dale wrote:
Stroller wrote:
On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
…
[...]
Are you sure it is DW Noon? His mail client seems legit:
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.7.8 (GTK+ 2.22.1;
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 01:10:01PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
most of the broken threads will seem to be broken by Indi. Now change it to
Standard Mailing List and threading mostly goes back to being normal.
I don't think the broken threads are anyone's mailer, I think it's kmail
doing
Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet:
I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm
using Claws-Mail myself.
I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing.
Greetings
Sebastian
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Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi:
Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the
usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an inconsistency
in headers that might break threading, perhaps?
Your References: Header looks very strange, I think the
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 02:30:02PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 14:03, schrieb Indi:
Could it have anything to do with the fact that I read this list from the
usenet group, rather than the list itself? Could that cause an
inconsistency
in headers that might break
Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 12:37, schrieb Marc Joliet:
I noticed it with DW Noon, too, although it also happened with Indi. I'm
using Claws-Mail myself.
I have Thunderbird and see this breakings too, it is really annoing.
Greetings
Sebastian
I'm using Seamonkey
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
Indi to tho.
This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue
what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to
them.
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
Indi to tho.
This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue
what order things are supposed to be in so just replying as I get to
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:05:24AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I'm using Seamonkey for my email. It does appear that it happens with
Indi to tho.
This thread is now broken up into a few discussions as well. No clue
what
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !!
Thanks for the confirmation, and for mentioning it in the first place.
I couldn't tell of course, because they all looked fine on usenet and
there was no local email to
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Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design
From: Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com
Date: 2011-06-04 21:54
Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:22:57AM -0500, Dale wrote:
That one was inline with the rest. Yeppie !!
Thanks
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using
won't let them reply any other way.
I just wonder if there is some setting that could be
Am 04.06.2011 16:54, schrieb Dale:
I just wonder if there is some setting that could be changed somewhere
to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you were using. I
just know this is going to happen again.
I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
server
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
server changes the headers of the mails.
That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet
References: gzhrq-5lz...@gated-at.bofh.it
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using usenet
References: gzhrq-5lz...@gated-at.bofh.it
gzhlc-5n...@gated-at.bofh.it
gzj0b-84...@gated-at.bofh.it
gzvl7-3y...@gated-at.bofh.it
Can't believe I never
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:38:38AM -0400, Indi wrote:
Well I could be wrong but do believe the MUA wll write the Xref or
References headers according to what the server has on the original
message. If the original header info exists anywhere in the message sent
by the mail2news gateway it
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:50:03PM +0200, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:27:32PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
I don't think that there is something that can be done, because the
server changes the headers of the mails.
That is a example of Indi's headers when he was using
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
posting. Some people have to top post because the device they are using
won't
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I suspected it was whatever device was being used. Sort of like top
posting.
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
I suspected it was whatever device was being used.
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:59:52AM -0700, kashani wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi did
opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500,
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
The thread Cleaning redundant configuration files is the worst. I
just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts.
David, what you got going on there my friend
On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi
did opine
thusly:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June 2011, Indi
David W Noon wrote:
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 05:40:01 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
The thread Cleaning redundant configuration files is the worst. I
just went back and looked. David W Noon is usually where it starts.
David, what you got
On Saturday 04 June 2011 15:46:49 Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
Apparently, though
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 10:19:51PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
diplomatic mode I have a slightly adverse general opinion about the mail
client called 'mutt'. I am not saying that this is the fault of its devs nor
do I suggesst that there is anything wrong with its users. /diplomatic
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with IMAP.
I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became
TB never unresponsive. So this point seems to have improved since your
testing.
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with IMAP.
I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3 years now and in all that time became
TB never
On Sat, 04 Jun 2011 22:10:02 +0200, Dale wrote about Re: [gentoo-user]
Threads changing Was: OT: website design:
[snip]
Well, something works now. This is threaded as it should be. So,
whatever you are doing, keep doing it that away. lol
I don't want you to think I was upset or anything. I
On Saturday 04 Jun 2011 22:59:32 Indi wrote:
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:44:30PM +0200, Sebastian Beßler wrote:
Am 04.06.2011 23:10, schrieb Indi:
Every single GUI MUA I ever tried would lock up and become unresponsive
at times when dealing with IMAP.
I use Thunderbird and IMAP for 3
David W Noon wrote:
Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
breakage.
A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,
regardless of its initial value. This is why correctly posted
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 05:57:44PM -0500, Dale wrote:
David W Noon wrote:
Not a problem. In fact, it is not I (or Indi) who is causing the
breakage.
A little further investigation has shown that the Message-ID: line of
all message posted through the Gentoo list server is rewritten,
On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 11:42:40PM +0100, Mick wrote:
I have looked at mutt some time ago, but then I would also need to install
fetchmail and smtp and what not, instead of a single desktop application.
Actually you can build mutt with the smtp, imap, and pop flags and
use mutt's built-in
Stroller wrote:
On 4 June 2011, at 02:33, Dale wrote:
…
What I would like to know is why some threads get broken up? My mail client
here follows these conversations as threads. For some reason, recently the
threads are getting broken as if someone started a fresh one.
I'm sure this is
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