Re: [gentoo-user] difficulties with lvm2+systemd+grub2

Michael Mair-Keimberger m.mairkeimber...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 05:13:16PM -0500, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: Michael Mair-Keimberger m.mairkeimber...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List, Today I've started to play around with systemd but so far I couldn't get

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: udev (viable) alternatives ?

rolled into systemd, then we depend on the goodwill of systemd devs not to go and break anybody else's userspace implementation. Lennart and goodwill do not belong in the same sentence. How's systemd-shim working out for Debian? Do you have any reason to think that it isn't working out

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

Am Sun, 23 Nov 2014 12:07:08 -0600 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com: On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 11:44 AM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: [...] To answer the OPs question correctly... Since OpenRC is the *default* - for now at least - it is *king*, and systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

Am 21.11.2014 um 18:36 schrieb Philip Webb: Adoption of Systemd by other major distros sb good for Gentoo. Disgruntled Debians, Fedoras, Archies (IIRC they've also adopted it) will have a choice of giving in or moving to Slackware or Gentoo. Well, Gentoo is for sure quite a different beast

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

On Sun, Nov 23, 2014 at 3:23 PM, Tanstaafl tansta...@libertytrek.org wrote: On 11/23/2014 1:07 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: So, don't be surprised if FreeBSD develops something *really* similar (along the lines of the second bullet) to systemd in the future Doesn't matter

Re: [gentoo-user] The future of linux, and Gentoo specifically now

Am 27.11.2014 um 16:22 schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: And Sabayon uses systemd, of course. Holy moly... never noticed that this happened.

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian forked, because of systemd brouhaha

On Sat, 29 Nov 2014 10:11:20 +, Pandu Poluan wrote: So, I just found out that some Debian Developers decided to fork Debian, because they can no longer stand this abomination called 'systemd': https://lists.dyne.org/lurker/message/20141127.212941.f55acc3a.en.html What do you think

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Mon, Feb 2, 2015 at 10:55 AM, Holger Hoffstätte holger.hoffstae...@googlemail.com wrote: On Mon, 02 Feb 2015 16:33:53 +0100, Stefan G. Weichinger wrote: didn't read the whole thread, sorry ... but I also noticed my nfsv4-server stopped working with that latest update. Some systemd-service

[gentoo-user] Openrc now on Arch LInux

It seems Openrc is spreading? https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/OpenRC Anyone tested openrc on Arch linux? I have read in several places that Arch linux has moved to systemd, exclusively? James

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 1:03 PM, James wirel...@tampabay.rr.com wrote: I think the fundamental flaw with systemd is the fact that the duality of support for systemd and other init solutions is so quickly abondoned. If they were allowed (encouraged) to run side by side for a few years, let

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd + openvpn

On Wed, Feb 11, 2015 at 1:58 PM, Joseph syscon...@gmail.com wrote: How do I start and stop systemd services, I would imagine systemd works the same across all distros. You run systemd start service - that is the same on all distros (well, if they're not writing fancy wrappers around

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 22.01.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Tom H: Sure. My point was that anyone can claim that systemd is (un)popular in the embedded space. I don't know if it is popular; in embedded systems though the last thing you need

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [NOTE] New default behavior in latest nfs-utils (1.3.2-r1)

On Sun, Feb 1, 2015 at 8:35 PM, waben...@gmail.com wrote: Am Sonntag, 01.02.2015 um 16:31 schrieb walt w41...@gmail.com: For example, I had to add the rpcbind.service to the multi-user systemd target because even nfs3 seems to need it. (I knew when I I never used systemd, so I don't know

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Get off my lawn?

On Sat, Jan 24, 2015 at 10:34 AM, Marc Stürmer m...@marc-stuermer.de wrote: Am 22.01.2015 um 19:06 schrieb Tom H: Sure. My point was that anyone can claim that systemd is (un)popular in the embedded space. I don't know if it is popular; in embedded systems though the last thing you need

Re: [gentoo-user] OK, so not everything works properly with systemd

On 03/21/2015 02:46 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Could you run this immediately after booting: systemd-delta Just to check that the unit files you are using are not being overridden by something. OK, I've confirmed the poweroff target works fine but the reboot and shutdown targets

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

:41:50 +0100 schrieb lee l...@yagibdah.de: Neil Bothwick n...@digimed.co.uk writes: On Wed, 18 Feb 2015 21:49:54 +0100, lee wrote: I wonder if the OP is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I hate systemd

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

On 28.05.2015 10:30, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I still have openrc, but Dracut won't work with it, at least maybe because I have systemd use flag enabled. Also, in retrospect, that would not have solved my specific problems, because it was related to an rd.lv command which is specific

Re: [gentoo-user] problems debugging a systemd problem

Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: On 28.05.2015 10:30, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: I still have openrc, but Dracut won't work with it, at least maybe because I have systemd use flag enabled. Also, in retrospect, that would not have solved my specific problems, because

Re: [gentoo-user] minimal installation cd vs system rescue cd

Thank you Daniel, Mick, and Jc for the clarifications/suggestions. To respond to Jc, yes I used systemd so you suggestion is apt. thanks again to all, allan

Re: [gentoo-user] installing gentoo with a systemd profile

On Tue, 21 Jul 2015 16:23:56 -0400, gottl...@nyu.edu wrote: Remember that udev is part of systemd, which is why you cannot have both packages installed. After unmerging udev, emerging systemd brings it back anyway. Your only window of risk is something happening between those two

Re: [gentoo-user] is zfs no longer compatible with systemd?

On 8 October 2015 at 10:24, wrote: > > I wonder why portage did not mention this It did. Somewhat cryptic, but it's there. -- Emanuele Rusconi

Re: [gentoo-user] a few blockers I can't figure out

On Mon, 31 Aug 2015, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: [snip] > Just to let you know, most of the python entries were mandated by > portage, certainly the systemd one. > emerge --info > Portage 2.2.20.1 (python 2.7.10-final-0, > default/linux/amd64/13.0/desktop/gnome, gcc-4.9.3

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd very slow to compile?

On Fri, Sep 11, 2015 at 6:08 PM, walt <w41...@gmail.com> wrote: > My very old and slow ~amd64 machine took 3 hours and 45-minutes to > compile systemd-226 today. I was curious to know why it was taking so > long to finish, so I used 'top' to see what was happening. > &g

Re: [gentoo-user] what about dracut and systemd?

est > > update of dracut has the -systemd as a mandatory flag. So, since I > > have to use systemd, does this mean I can no longer use dracut -- I > > have found dracut very nice and would be sad to give it up. > > > > Any ideas on what is happening here? > >

[gentoo-user] Re: Plasma5: Missing shutdown, restart and suspend button

h missing buttons in the kde menu as mentioned in the subject. >> >> I followed all these instructions: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE >> One guess is that it could be OpenRC because I actually selected the >> systemd profile for kde. >> >> I am done with my d

Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma5: Missing shutdown, restart and suspend button

these instructions: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/KDE One guess is that it could be OpenRC because I actually selected the systemd profile for kde. I am done with my debug-fu at this point. :) In the attachment you will find a lot of information. Customized parts are marked with "# custom"

Re: [gentoo-user] Why I can't I build systemd without ipv6?

On 10/13/2017 10:41 AM, dan...@sonck.nl wrote: IPv6 compiled into systemd is most likely for systemd-networkd. If you're not using that part it shouldn't be a problem. If you're using systemd-networkd, you can configure it to not do IPv6. But, I would recommend configuring your system

[gentoo-user] Why I can't I build systemd without ipv6?

is: apparently it tries ipv6 twice, fails, then resorts to ipv4 which works fine. Most of my systems now have ipv6 support removed, and viola! no more delays. Except for the three systems I have that run systemd. I went in the kernel config to disable ipv6, and it won't let me - looking

Re: [gentoo-user] remove gnome/systemd

On 09/12/2017 03:07 PM, Heiko Baums wrote: > Am Tue, 12 Sep 2017 17:28:40 -0400 > schrieb Mike Gilbert <flop...@gentoo.org>: > >> I would advise against this INSTALL_MASK setting. It is quite likely >> to break things (like sys-fs/udev). > > No, it's not. >

[gentoo-user] Re: remove gnome/systemd

On 12/09/17 18:55, Raffaele Belardi wrote: After several months of Gnome3 I decided it is too heavy for my old workstation and would like to go back to LXDE. The flow could be: 1. rebuild kernel with openRC support and install 2. emerge -C gnome networkmanager 3. emerge -C systemd 4. change

Re: [gentoo-user] Simplest NTP client for standalone system?

On Tue, Aug 29, 2017 at 8:52 AM, Stroller <strol...@stellar.eclipse.co.uk> wrote: > > Any recommendations for a simple NTP client? > systemd-timedated? /me ducks... -- Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging new stable python

Am Mittwoch, 29. November 2017, 22:29:59 CET schrieb allan gottlieb: > On Wed, Nov 29 2017, Alan McKinnon wrote: [...] > >> Both 6430 and 7450 have the following content in > >> /etc/portage/package.use/systemd-cron > >> > >> # systemd-cron needs PYTHO

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 6:08 PM, Walter Dnes <waltd...@waltdnes.org> wrote: > On Sun, Dec 10, 2017 at 09:02:24PM +, Wols Lists wrote >> On 10/12/17 10:13, Alan Mackenzie wrote: >>> >>> I've no idea how good systemd is. It's not been through the normal &g

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

2017-12-11 15:03 GMT-06:00 Alan Mackenzie <a...@muc.de>: > OK. But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a > systemd system a broader target for attacks. Whether a system has an > http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever pu

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd fails to mount nfs4 mounts

to timeout. The computer is using a static IP, so it shouldn't even be waiting for dhcp... I booted into openrc, and they all mount properly. Does anyone have any idea even how to start troubleshooting this? I had this issue through some versions of systemd - but its fixed now (i'm

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: "systemd sysv-utils blocker resolution"

On Sun, Feb 11 2018, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: > On 11/02/18 02:16, allan gottlieb wrote: >> I have a question on this news item. >> >> I use systemd (gnome3) on a gentoo stable system. >> eix reports that sys-apps/systemd-236-r5 is installed >> >> B

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: after finally doing my emerge -e world successfully, my regular world update fails

On Fri, 22 Dec 2017 11:42:16 -0500, Ian Zimmerman wrote: > > On 2017-12-22 11:45, Helmut Jarausch wrote: > > > sys-apps/systemd openrc python_targets_python2_7 abi_x86_32 -sysv-utils > > > > to /etc/portage/package.use > > > > With this, both, openrc a

[gentoo-user] Re: Experiences with Flatpak?

On 2019-01-25, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: >>> Also, I run systemd; I *think* it's necessary to run flatpak. >> >> Ouch. I don't, so that's a bit of a blocker for me. > > I'm not sure anymore; flatpak doesn't need systemd and ostree has it as an > optional dependen

Re: [gentoo-user] visualise openrc initscript start order and dependency tree

ure he was tweaking tails - hence > the "tongue in cheek" smiley. I didn't intend to suggest that I thought it was mean-spirited. Just stirring the pot. > > Fact is, there are a lot of people out there who hate systemd because > it's been successful, and it's been successful bec

Re: [gentoo-user] What ntp/sntp client do people use?

chrony on the "server" to sync from the Internet and systemd-timesyncd on the others to sync from the server.

Re: [gentoo-user] update remote system in background

On Fri, Apr 24, 2020 at 6:31 AM Neil Bothwick wrote: > > On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 10:41:24 +0200, Michele Alzetta wrote: > > > ... I just hope the remote system isn't running systemd, if so, you > > have to do some additional tweaking before screen or tmux work. I know > >

Re: [gentoo-user] update remote system in background

On Fri, 24 Apr 2020 08:06:53 -0400, Rich Freeman wrote: > > > ... I just hope the remote system isn't running systemd, if so, you > > > have to do some additional tweaking before screen or tmux work. I > > > know someone who was bitten hard by this. Apparently systemd

RE: [gentoo-user] Update Gentoo recently is becoming difficult

e: [gentoo-user] Update Gentoo recently is becoming difficult > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 09:30:49AM +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote: > > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 01:36:34AM -0300, Raphael MD wrote: > > > I’ve been noted that Systemd is putting hard dependency in things > > >

Re: [gentoo-user] Update Gentoo recently is becoming difficult

Please do not start a flame war Il Mar 12 Mag 2020, 10:31 Ashley Dixon ha scritto: > On Tue, May 12, 2020 at 01:36:34AM -0300, Raphael MD wrote: > > I’ve been noted that Systemd is putting hard dependency in things like > > Bluetooth, today is difficult rely upon a system wi

[gentoo-user] Q: Where does elogind get "--keeptty" set?

After conversion to elogind I cannot start X11. I've re-emerged PAM, though the ._cfg_system-auth tried to remove elogind.so, oddly enough. At this point my Xorg.0.log includes: systemd-elogind: Logind integration requires -keeptty and -keeptty was not provided, disabling elogind

Re: [gentoo-user] custom mount fstab

Hi Andrew, it's on systemd. Previously I had problems connecting with docker. After I searched on Github, docker ran then without any problems at all. best, Tamer Am 3 Jul 2020 um 16:04 schrieb Andrew Udvare: On Fri, Jul 3, 2020, 09:34 Tamer Higazi <mailto:th9...@googlemail.com>&

Re: [gentoo-user] custom mount fstab

none,name=systemd cgroup /sys/fs/cgroup/systemd Can anybody of you tell me how to add that one in /etc/fstab file ? best, Tamer | I haven't used cgroups or docker, but if your mount command above is correct, I assume something like this ought to work as far as fstab is concerned: cgroup /sys/fs

Re: [gentoo-user] Switching default tmpfiles and faster internet coming my way.

curity reasons. I currently have sys-apps/opentmpfiles installed. I > > guess that is the default for openrc. Someone mentioned > > systemd-tmpfiles as a alternative that doesn't have the same security > > problems. > > There's a full explanation here: > >

Re: [gentoo-user] rsyslog upstream have removed their template systemd service file

On 27/11/2020 08:21, Alan J. Wylie wrote: After updating to rsyslog 8.2008.0, I discovered that the systemd service file no longer existed. Upstream removed it from their tarball: - 2020-08-12: systemd service file removed from project This was done as distros nowadays have very different

[gentoo-user] Xscreensaver fails to start

I just updated to the latest Xscreensaver-6.01-r1. If it starts at reboot, individual savers crash with a screen box saying ' crashed with Status 1'. If I stop the daemon, then restart it from CLI, I get : xscreensaver-systemd: 10:15:26: user bus connection failed: No such file or directory

[gentoo-user] A couple of problems with systemd

Hi. Lately I am having a couple of problems with systemd. I am using version 250.5-r1. I have one service which always times out, but slows down the boot process. It is /lib/systemd/system/systemd-networkd-wait-online.service. Because many jobs wait in queue for a while, till this fails

Re: [gentoo-user] --depclean wants to remove udev. What!?

Hello, On 6/19/22 21:38, Dale wrote: Anyone have ideas on this?  I mess up something?  Catch the tree in a bad state?  Something else I'm not aware of?  It's not making sense to me yet.  :/ sys-fs/udev has been replaced by a USE flag on the sys-apps/systemd-utils package. When you updated

Re: [gentoo-user] Postfix config and update

On 27/11/2022 13:21, John Blinka wrote: I’m not a systemd user, so I don’t know precisely what systemd does. But my /etc/postfix/main.cf <http://main.cf> is a soft link to “main.cf.works”, which was an unoriginal name for an experimental config file that worked (as opposed to a series of

Re: [gentoo-user] Apache and systemd problem

How can you not miss it when it's specified in the ebuild? [root@ruja:~]# grep service /usr/portage/www-servers/apache/apache-2.4.55-r1.ebuild     # Then apache2.4.service can be used and systemd support controlled     systemd_newunit "${FILESDIR}/apache2.4-hardened.service" "

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd query ...

> > Well, well, Rich, you are completely right, you've found the key !  I have that line in make.conf INSTALL_MASK="/lib/systemd/system /usr/lib/systemd/system" I now see where it comes from. On the same machine, I have another OpenRC Gentoo with systemd masqued. I just copîed t

Re: [gentoo-user] profile is not depricated -- how to switch correctly

On Thursday, 29 February 2024 09:01:52 GMT John Covici wrote: > I got a message on my world update that said my profile which is > /var/db/repos/gentoo/profiles/default/linux/amd64/17.1/desktop/gnome/systemd > / is depricated and no longer supported. So, afterr this update is > fin

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd question

is: # systemctl status remote-fs.target remote-fs.target - Remote File Systems Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib64/systemd/system/remote-fs.target; enabled) Active: active since Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:33:09 -0500; 1 day and 3h ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) I mount /usr

Re: [gentoo-user] NetworkManager problem after migrating to systemd

On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 8:43 AM, João Matos jaon...@gmail.com wrote: Hi List. I've heard here that systemd is faster the openrc, so I decided to try it. And indeed, it is :). I've spent many hours to make my system totaly functional again, but it totally worth it. Kudos. There is just one

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

,mythtv,sgw,gdm What is the uid and gid of gdm? # getent passwd gdm gdm:x:104:446:added by portage for gdm:/var/lib/gdm:/sbin/nologin Also, did GDM (the same version) worked with OpenRC, or did you installed systemd and upgraded gdm at the same time? hmm. No upgrade of gdm, but a re-build

Re: [gentoo-user] installing systemd

the wiki for converting to systemd). I am upto the part where the wiki says emerge --ask systemd I believe the wiki left out unmerging or something since the emerge gives conflicts (as expected). What must I unmerge? The emerge --ask systemd, specifically mentions a conflict

Re: [gentoo-user] separate / and /usr to require initramfs 2013-11-01

other distros until I find one I like. Thing is, I already have a starting point. I'm already looking. http://forums.funtoo.org/viewtopic.php?id=2265 and they also dislike systemd. I think I could get to like it. See also http://bugs.funtoo.org/browse/FL-34 Very interesting

Re: [gentoo-user] Restart network interface with systemd

all, I installed gnome3 few weeks ago, and had to migrate to systemd. The network init scripts are working fine. But I am not sure how to restart a specific interface. For example in the past I used to do: /etc/init.d/net.eth0 restart The wlan0 starts through wpa_supplicant under openrc

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

were[1]: 1. sysvinit (status quo) 2. systemd 3. upstart 4. openrc (experimental) 5. One system on Linux, something else on non-linux 6. multiple It should also be noted that no one in the TC voted OpenRC above systemd AND upstart, and that while a couple voted systemd below everything

Re: [gentoo-user] Debian just voted in systemd for default init system in jessie

it up: ... I will give Upstart this though: Should something better come along, you could replace upstart. I guess this holds true for OpenRC as well. You can't say that about systemd. I had read that blog entry before. Is full of errors, like believing that everything that systemd does is inside

[gentoo-user] systemd weirdness with courier-authdaemond

Two things; 1. systemctl --all doesnt show the courier-authdaemond service 2. The service runs fine when i start it manually, is enabled, but is dead when started by /usr/lib/systemd/systemd How do i fix this? proxy adam # systemctl --all | grep -i courier courier-imapd.service loaded active

Re: [gentoo-user] problems getting systemd to work

options for systemd? Maybe it doesn't matter, but just a thought ... that kernel is quite old. It doesn't matter, at least in theory systemd works with linux-3.0. John, could you please send the output from dracut --print-cmdline? In my case, it lists *ALL* my lvms, and (I think) therefore

Re: [gentoo-user] Systemd upower

On 04/06/2014 00:06, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 12:59 AM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Jun 3, 2014 at 4:40 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: [...] Incidentally, what exactly is wrong with systemd writing a dhcp server client

[gentoo-user] Re: journald refuses to put log files in /var/log/journal/ [REALLY SOLVED]

On 09/23/2014 11:28 AM, Mike Gilbert wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 1:40 PM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: On 09/23/2014 07:46 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Sep 23, 2014 at 10:27 AM, walt w41...@gmail.com wrote: I used systemctl to stop and restart systemd-journald, thinking I might see

Re: [gentoo-user] syslog-ng: how to read the log files

is using systemd and trying to read the journal files? Nooo, I hate systemd ... What good are log files you can't read? You can't read syslog-ng log files without some reading software, usually a combination of cat, grep and less. systemd does it all with journalctl

Re: [gentoo-user] UEFI booting

On Friday 26 Aug 2016 16:13:53 Mike Gilbert wrote: > On Fri, Aug 26, 2016 at 4:32 AM, Peter Humphrey <pe...@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote: > > In my search for a suitable boot method, I'm trying Mike G's > > systemd-boot > > ebuild. I've installed it with no problem

Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No

software is going, you can get a full refund > > and switch to something else. > > Not this argument again. It's the most stupid argument (of a lot of > other stupid ones) which was give most frequently by Poettering and > those Poettering fanboys from the beginning of this sy

Re: [gentoo-user] problem emerging new stable python

; >> On one system (dell 6430) I was presented with many packages to merge >>python-3.5.4 [ebuild NS] >>many to reinstall [ebuild R] >> >> This was not surprising. >> >> The other system (dell 7450) failed with the following >> >> !!! Pro

Re: [gentoo-user] OT: but cool - NASDAQ is gentoo powered

Am 16.08.2011 19:06, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: In all my computers (i.e., not the two desktops at uni, since they are not mine) I use systemd (which thankfully has entered the portage tree) systemd sounds like a nice-to-have project for me. Which howto did you follow, what do you

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

to add. You provided a solution and the only reply I could come up with Well done would sound condescending. Which is why I decided not to. additional thoughts: * as there is readahead-support in systemd I assume I could get rid of preload: http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/preload

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd

to add. You provided a solution and the only reply I could come up with Well done would sound condescending. Which is why I decided not to. additional thoughts: * as there is readahead-support in systemd I assume I could get rid of preload: http://packages.gentoo.org/package/sys-apps/preload

Re: [gentoo-user] The End Is Near ... or, get the vaseline, they're on the way!

This news item is to inform you that once you upgrade to a version of udev =181, if you have /usr on a separate partition, you must boot your system with an initramfs which pre-mounts /usr. [...] Happy Computer Users, systemd is on your horizon. The problem, if you really want to call

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: systemd? [ Was: The End Is Near ... ]

i want to try this systemd thingy, where do is start at? i have a vm for testing and i might will adopt it on the real one. Thanks, Eliezer On 18/03/2012 09:28, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: it or at least try it, and given the level of discussion you present, I'm starting to think you don't

Re: [gentoo-user] udev-182 already

On Tue, 20 Mar 2012 07:35:12 -0700, walt wrote: The new gentoo-sources-3.3.0 introduces a kernel config item that you need to set according to whether you use openrc or systemd. Which option is this? Searching in menuconfig for openrc or systemd returns nothing. -- Neil Bothwick

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: USB sticks now mounting on /run/media instead of /media ?

/systemd/systemd/commit/?id=231931ffba1bca9d8759bbd6f797e56f8c6971fa Are we running Linux or are we running Lennax? -- Walter Dnes waltd...@waltdnes.org

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and gnome3

On Fri, Jul 20, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Stefan G. Weichinger li...@xunil.at wrote: Am 2012-07-20 15:54, schrieb Peter Alfredsen: Yeah udev is incorporated into later versions of systemd on gentoo and the reason it is masked is because you have to do some package.provided magic to get it all to work

[gentoo-user] Re: systemd question

Systems Loaded: loaded (/usr/lib64/systemd/system/remote-fs.target; enabled) Active: active since Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:33:09 -0500; 1 day and 3h ago Docs: man:systemd.special(7) I mount /usr/portage by nfs, so I do want remote-fs support. The problem is listed

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

Re 509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.se509D8E00.4030208@coolmail.sek7k1hn$ce6$1...@ger.gmane.org, Dale said: I don't worry about boot up times much either. Here is why: I was thinking of converting to systemd on my Gentoo laptop. There I do boot frequently, and could benefit from quicker bootups. So

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 20:03:33 schrieb 微蔡: 在 2012年11月11日 星期日 12:09:46，Volker Armin Hemmann 写道： Am Sonntag, 11. November 2012, 15:33:15 schrieb 微蔡: 在 2012年11月10日 星期六 20:56:45，pk 写道： On 2012-11-10 03:03, walt wrote: :) systemd is coming whether you or I like

Re: [gentoo-user] [ANNOUNCE] I like systemd now :)

pam policykit -debug -doc (-selinux) {-test} 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-auth/pambase-20120417-r1 USE=consolekit* cracklib gnome-keyring sha512 systemd -debug -minimal -mktemp -pam_k rb5 -pam_ssh -passwdqc (-selinux) 0 kB [ebuild R] sys-auth/polkit-0.107-r1 USE=examples gtk introspection

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

. Took that as a opportunity to put up stuff on my github: https://github.com/stefangweichinger/systemd-services Stefan

Re: [gentoo-user] Using KDE networkmanagement applet with systemd??

2013/2/4 Robert Walker robert_mt_wal...@yahoo.co.uk Hi all, I'm wondering if it is possible to get the KDE network management (system tray) applet to work properly on my laptop. I'm using the Gentoo systemd overlay and KDE 4.9.5. $ emerge -pv networkmanager network management [ebuild R

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd-197-r1 starts gdm-3.6.2

Am 2013-02-13 21:01, schrieb Canek Peláez Valdés: LVM2 will be pulled again by udisks2; it's a mandatory dependency. I don't think the problem is related to LVM, but I don't really know. I already found out, yes. Maybe it's just some systemd race condition. It's not that important to me right

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd - are we forced to switch?

On 23/07/2013 11:31, cov...@ccs.covici.com wrote: So, this implies if I want to keep using gnome then systemd is required, or use another desktop. That is something to think about. Correct. I wouldn't stress about it too much, your choice is do you want to use Gnome3 or not? And then just use

[gentoo-user] [~amd64] Some possibly (?) helpful hints re the big gnome-3.8 update

First hint: it's a mess -- don't do it on a critical machine. (My main machine is ~amd64 and that's why I'm doing it on virtual ~amd64 machines first.) The new gnome-shell demands that systemd be installed, even if you don't intend to use it. The latest systemd conflicts with udev because

[gentoo-user] a couple of systemd questions

I want to -- at least in initial testing -- have systemd not try to do things in parallell -- one at a time is very nice -- I even have openrc configured that way. Any way to do this? Also, I do want an interactive boot like the I -- is confirm-spawn the way to do this? Thanks in advance

[gentoo-user] conf.d/net and systemd

Hi there. I would like to know how I can use my existing conf.d/net if I were to use systemd, or is there some better way to do this? I have two static networks an internal and external one and use the postup for things which must go online once the external network is up. I had to use modules

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 11:09 AM, Pavel Volkov negai...@gmail.com wrote: On Sunday 28 July 2013 03:22:02 Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: Therefore, as of today, anyone can have a Gentoo machine with only systemd, with no OpenRC installed. Really? Bug 373219 is still open. Sorry, I missed your

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

On 31/07/13 at 08:30am, Tanstaafl wrote: So, how should this be used to 'opt out of systemd completely'? from main make.conf Use this variable if you want to selectively prevent certain files from being copied into your file system tree. .. You can use it to prevent ebuilds from

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:22 PM, Canek Peláez Valdés can...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 1:09 PM, Alan McKinnon alan.mckin...@gmail.com wrote: On 31/07/2013 19:56, Stroller wrote: On 31 July 2013, at 18:23, Alan McKinnon wrote: ... Whinging about systemd binaries being

Re: [gentoo-user] gentoo-systemd-only deprecation

On 31 July 2013, at 19:24, Canek Peláez Valdés wrote: ... If you use systemd, all the files installed in /etc/init.d (except functions.sh) don't actually do nothing. In English don't actually do nothing means do something; i.e. don't actually do anything != don't actually do nothing. I

Re: [gentoo-user] how to tell you are using systemd?

Wang Xuerui idontknw.w...@gmail.com wrote: 在 2013-8-1 上午10:26， cov...@ccs.covici.com写道： Can a shell script tell if systemd is the init? I have a couple of places where it would be nice to know this. Thanks in advance for any suggestions. Check /proc/1/comm or something like

Re: [gentoo-user] Au revoir, gnome-3.8

On Friday 09 Aug 2013 11:33:53 Alan McKinnon wrote: I long ago concluded that users who want to run Gnome3 need to do what Gnome3 devs want them to do. Currently with 3.8 that includes using systemd. Is there any advantage in a KDE user switching to systemd? I've seen the arguments

[gentoo-user] systemd and local equivalent

. There are other miscellaneous commands I need to issue, so how can I do this using systemd? Thanks in advance for any suggestions. -- Your life is like a penny. You're going to lose it. The question is: How do you spend it? John Covici cov...@ccs.covici.com

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Optional /usr merge in Gentoo

. Absolutely agreed. Might be a good time to switch to freebsd :-( I agree. This is the only escape plan against the new wind of dictation into monolithic approach that comes from systemd sponsors direction. Let's see how it turns out... if Linux userspace will become like the Windows user

Re: [gentoo-user] systemd and initramfs

) in the root of the initramfs. This init program/script is the responsible for mounting the real root and other partitions, and handling control over to systemd (or OpenRC, or whatever). Dracut is able to create an initramfs (with the systemd Dracut module) that executes systemd inside the initramfs

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