SYS1.TCPPARMS on OFFLINE dasd,what's the result?

2006-07-18 Thread victorzhang_mvscn
Hello all, Supposing I do the following test: 1 define SYS1.TCPPARMS on a free volume ESBF0A. 2 offline ESBF0A 3 restart RESOLVER And if I submit a batch ping job or ftp job without defining SYSTCPD in JCL,will the job hang there? Is this the problem of TCPIP? Regards Victor

Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Allan Chandler
I'm conducting a straw poll trying to establish how many people in the real world actually use the Workstation Agent part of ISPF and on what platforms. I'd appreciate any feedback from subscribers to this list. I'm only really interested in whether you run it and the platforms on which you run

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread R.S.
Ward, Mike S wrote: Hello all, I have a small problem and I don't know how to handle it at this point. I initialized a CKDS and a PKDS on our old z800 using the pass phrase method. The z800 had ccf processors. I want to bring these datasets into our z890 environment, but I don't exactly know

Re: MIDAW on non-IBM Devices

2006-07-18 Thread R.S.
Clark, Maurice wrote: G'day Bruce, -Snip- EMC does with recent microcode changes (not sure if it is limited to the DMX boxes). I haven't yet heard about MIDAW on HDS or STK -Snip- The HP RAID500 boxes (XP12000/XP1000) have MIDAW support built into the 50-07-51-00/00 microcode. Same for

Data Integrity with DB2 for z/OS

2006-07-18 Thread Knutson, Sam
Hi, The last IBM RedBooks newsletter included this one. Data Integrity with DB2 for z/OS Published: July 10, 2006 ISBN: 0738495547 272 pages Explore the book online at http://www.redbooks.ibm.com/abstracts/sg247111.html The book has some good information on platform data Integrity

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I always get blank looks when I ask what would happen if someone actually tried to exploit 64bit addressing to the fullest. How do we provide page space to back these requests? As someone responsible for keeping our mainframes up and running, it worries me that application type people have the

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread Wayne Driscoll
That is the reason that IBM allows installations to set the MEMLIMIT. While it is true that even a reasonable limit can be abused by multiple jobs, you would have the same exposure in a 31 bit world if you allow jobs to use REGION=0M. Wayne Driscoll Product Developer JME Software LLC NOTE: All

Re: SYS1.TCPPARMS on OFFLINE dasd,what's the result?

2006-07-18 Thread Pat Schlehuber
I believe RESOLVER will not re-initialize. I know when the dataset is not a legit cataloged DSN it does fail when initializing. -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]

VSAM datasets access from a different z/OS system

2006-07-18 Thread Blanca Martinez
I would like to know if there is a way to access a VSAM dataset in a z/OS system from another z/OS system in these situation: - The Vsam Dataset is catalogued in the first system in the mastercatalog which is connencted to the mastercatalog of the system I want to access from. - STEPCAT is

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Craddock, Chris
I'm conducting a straw poll trying to establish how many people in the real world actually use the Workstation Agent part of ISPF and on what platforms. If you don't use it at all, you can also let me know that. I don't use it at all. For the first few years I would periodically try to get

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 15:36:34 +0800, Allan Chandler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm conducting a straw poll trying to establish how many people in the real world actually use the Workstation Agent part of ISPF and on what platforms. I use it, primarily for file transfer to windoze. Tom Marchant

Re: MIDAW on non-IBM Devices

2006-07-18 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Radoslaw, That's right. Only the vendor name changes in the node name or SCSI query between HP (HPQ) and all the rest(HTC). We haven't released that code level as GA yet. Ron -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of R.S. Sent:

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Craddock, Chris Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:05 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64) snip In other words,

Dynamic Stuff

2006-07-18 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
We would like to activate OAM and its entry in the subsystem name table without having to IPL. I'm off in search of documentation, but would very much appreciate an affirmation that it can be done or an absolute no way to save some time. TIA

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
What's the point if you don't have that much memory and can't back it on DASD? It's just an exercise with no practical value until you can back it. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 10:35:10 +0200, R.S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I assume, you have your pass phrase recorded (you remember it). Just repeat the initialization process on z/890 using same method, same pass phrase but different (blank new) KDS datasets. Then you can stop ICSF and replace the

Re: Dynamic Stuff

2006-07-18 Thread Alan C. Field
SETSSI command - Daniel A. McLaughlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU 07/18/2006 07:48 Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU To IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU cc Subject Dynamic Stuff We would like to activate OAM and

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread McKown, John
-Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Veilleux, Jon L Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:24 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64) What's the point

P390/S390 Support - Error message: AWSICE004T

2006-07-18 Thread Anuradha V
Hi All, Our setup has a CT Gateway (Channel Transfer, this simulates a cluster controller) on one side and IBM S/390 (3006-B01) Server on the other side. The IBM server uses IBM ARTIC960 channel card for connecting to channel devices. We are unable to make this channel card detect the CT

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread Daniel A. McLaughlin
Sparse? Ah, the final frontier Daniel McLaughlin ZOS Systems Programmer Crawford Company PH: 770 621 3256 * Everything comes to him who hustles while he waits. ? Thomas A. Edison -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe /

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Edward Jaffe
Allan Chandler wrote: I'm conducting a straw poll trying to establish how many people in the real world actually use the Workstation Agent part of ISPF and on what platforms. I'd appreciate any feedback from subscribers to this list. I'm only really interested in whether you run it and the

Re: Info-zip on Z/OS 1.6 and up

2006-07-18 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brian Westerman wrote: The emulated DASD has a BASE dasd image, and can have one or more SHADOW images of the same volumes. All changes made to the dasd occur in the shadow image, thus leaving the base dasd unchanged. You can select to merge the shadow image into the base, (thus making a new

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread Ward, Mike S
Thanks for all the reply's. I'll try the method below and let you know what happens. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 8:25 AM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Re: ICSF help needed On

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread David W Neylon
I have used WSA on occasion for file transfer but I usually don't think to start it. Win/XP. David W Neylon, Sr Consultant/Data Security Analyst Information Security Technology (480) 724-4644 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Wells Fargo Confidential This message may contain confidential and/or privileged

Re: MIDAW on non-IBM Devices

2006-07-18 Thread Pommier, Rex R.
Ron, I have an XP512 box and HP has told me that they have made a bunch of microcode changes so the XP boxes (at least the XP512) aren't the same as the HDS any more. I know the hardware is the same. How about the software running on the box, are they different or the same from that level?

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Dave Salt
From: Edward Jaffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] Allan, You might want to ensure you create a clear distinction here between the WSA and the ISPGUI. There's a lot of ignorance and confusion about these offerings and many people just don't know the difference. You've already received one response that

Re: From Darren: Braindead content analyzers

2006-07-18 Thread Leonard Woren
Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote on 7/14/2006 4:25 AM: BTW, the same applies to out-of-office and other autoresponders; it is abusive for them to autorespond to list traffic. I'm the listowner for ISPF-L, a list with (only) 500-600 subscribers and much much lower traffic than IBM-MAIN.

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread john gilmore
Chris Craddock writes: | | . . . I am glad that the wizards have made it all work out, but in terms of functional needs, | 64-bit addressing is overkill on a cosmic scale. | Let us hope so. Computing---informatique, informatica, whatever---is a fairly new discipline; but one red thread that

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread Ward, Mike S
Here are the results. I disabled PKA services and used PPINIT using the pass phrase that was used on the z800, I also replied no to init ckds and pkds as well as replying no to initializing new encryption cards. Here is what I received: CSFM404A PKA HASH PATTERN IN PKDS HEADER RECORD DOES NOT

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread Ward, Mike S
Good news. Since the ppinit wasn't allowed to initialize the datasets it still had a pointer to the z890 pkds. I pointed icsf to the z800 pkds and enabled PKA services and bingo. CSFM416I BOTH MASTER KEYS CORRECT ON PCI X CRYPTOGRAPHIC COPROCESSOR X01, SERIAL NUMBER 94001416., ***, Thanks for

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
I am not opposed to large address spaces but I need to make sure that my systems stay up. Until someone comes up with a way to back large address spaces then we are in a dangerous situation. It may be 'virtual', but if anyone tries to use it there had better be SOMETHING backing it up! Coding

Re: ++HOLD correction (and explanation) - COBOL SEARCH ALL

2006-07-18 Thread Brian Peterson
Also from UK13240: ++ HOLD(UK13240) SYS FMID(H26L340) REASON(DOC) DATE(06097) COMMENT ( * FUNCTION AFFECTED: ENTERPRISE COBOL(PQ16765)

Omegamon installation question

2006-07-18 Thread Rogers, Kathy - DIT
Will Omegamon's CandleNet Portal run under z/VM's Linux? -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the message: GET IBM-MAIN INFO Search the archives at

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread McKown, John
I'm tagging onto this. I had ICSF working on my z800 also. However, for the life of me, I simply cannot get it to work on our upgraded z890 (z800-z890). I remember that I needed one or more features (free) enabled on the z800. Is there something similar I need on the z890? We don't have a crypto

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Dave Salt
From: David W Neylon [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU I have used WSA on occasion for file transfer but I usually don't think to start it. I used to have the same problem until I created a BAT file that starts both the WSA and the emulator at the

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread David W Neylon
Actually would be easier to just copy the WSA shortcut into the START folder in XP. I could start Extra that way also but I'm a bit... Hmmm.. OCD about which order my apps are on the taskbar. :) Yes, I recognize that it's irrational. :) David W Neylon, Sr Consultant/Data Security Analyst

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:28:16 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coding IEFUSI to limit its use is defeating the purpose of having large address spaces in the first place. I don't agree. It can protect you from shotting yourself in the foot while still allowing legitimate usage

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Veilleux, Jon L
When we lost our system we had an IEFUSI exit coded and active. Jon L. Veilleux [EMAIL PROTECTED] (860) 636-2683 -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Mark Zelden Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 12:02 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Gerhard Adam
Veilleux wrote: When we lost our system we had an IEFUSI exit coded and active. I'm sorry, but I find this whole discussion a bit overblown. The ability to crash a system certainly didn't surface with 64-bit addressing. Since this is hardly a mainstream' storage allocation method,

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 12:45:15 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: When we lost our system we had an IEFUSI exit coded and active. Programmer: What do you mean my code doesn't work? I got RC=0 when I assembled it. Either the code was not adequate for the environment

Re: CHEAT SHEETS

2006-07-18 Thread Anthony Bongiorno
do you still needs this? John Dawes [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu 07/17/2006 08:41 AM Please respond to IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu To IBM-MAIN@bama.ua.edu cc Subject CHEAT SHEETS G'Day All, I have been a

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Craddock, Chris
John said; The moral of this anecdotage is that notionally reasonable maxima have in our history always been outgrown much too soon. True enough, but we have oscillated around a curve that is less than one additional bit of addressability every few years and because each bit represents a

SYSVIEW and RACD

2006-07-18 Thread Gerhard Adam
We are trying to protect CA SYSVIEW product with RACF. Has anyone else attempted to do this? If so, could you please point me in the right direction. Currently, I have only been provided with the SAF exit from SYSVIEW. Get yourself a copy of the CA-SYSVIEW Security Guide. That should help as

Re: 64-bits is a really big number! - was z/OS level for SETFRR for AMODE(64)

2006-07-18 Thread Ed Gould
On Jul 18, 2006, at 6:26 AM, Veilleux, Jon L wrote: I always get blank looks when I ask what would happen if someone actually tried to exploit 64bit addressing to the fullest. How do we provide page space to back these requests? As someone responsible for keeping our mainframes up and running,

Re: cross memory assembler program help

2006-07-18 Thread Ulrich Boche
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The OOP (original OP) asked about the ACEE and ASXB for another address space. I convoluted the threat by spawning a different sub-thread, thus inadvertently becoming a SOP (subordinate OP) on the subject of CPU timing. It appears from Jim Mulder's comments in

Re: ICSF help needed

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Zelden
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 20:46:42 +0200, Ulrich Boche [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Your machine has the CPACF feature (CP Assist for Cryptographic Functions) which needs to be activated (FC 3863). Different from the CCFs this is a non-disruptive process. CPACF on a z890 or z990 can do DES, TDES and SHA1.

Re: SYS1.TCPPARMS on OFFLINE dasd,what's the result?

2006-07-18 Thread Patrick O'Keefe
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 14:14:54 +0800, victorzhang_mvscn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello all, Supposing I do the following test: 1 define SYS1.TCPPARMS on a free volume ESBF0A. 2 offline ESBF0A 3 restart RESOLVER And if I submit a batch ping job or ftp job without defining SYSTCPD in JCL,will

Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Kuredjian, Michael
I'm currently in University on my Co-op term as a COBOL programmer for host systems (zOS). I have a few basic questions regarding the zArchitecture that I can't seem to elicit answers to from my co-workers. The questions are as follows: 1. zOS has a kernel called the BCP, or Base Control

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread McKown, John
I'll take a try at a few of these. -Original Message- From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kuredjian, Michael Sent: Tuesday, July 18, 2006 2:46 PM To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU Subject: Newbie Questions! I'm currently in University on my Co-op

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
I'm sorry, but I find this whole discussion a bit overblown. The ability to crash a system certainly didn't surface with 64-bit addressing. I agree! I've already made my opinion known on this, specifically the fact that DB2 V8 ignores the exits and controls for memory. This, in and of itself,

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Matthew Stitt
At least for question 1, go find a manual called the Principles of Operations. You can search the IBM website by that name and then download it to read. The BCP is nothing more than the core MVS components. MVS is comprised of many subsystems, each doing a specialized function. The Kernel in

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread john gilmore
There is an IBM redbook, which you can download (no charge) at the IBM publications website, called Introduction to z/OS and the mainframe environment Get it and read it. You will then be able to reformulate your questions. John Gilmore Ashland, MA 01721-1817 USA From: Kuredjian,

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Mark Zelden
Hi. Welcome to the world of z and IBM-MAIN. Go to http://www.ibm.com/servers/eserver/zseries/zos/bkserv/ On the right side of the page there is a link to the z/OS basics skill center and a z/OS Basics Redbook. This Redbook may be a good place to start along with the basics skill center. If

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 08:39:26 -0400, Craddock, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm conducting a straw poll trying to establish how many people in the real world actually use the Workstation Agent part of ISPF and on what platforms. If you don't use it at all, you can also let me know that. I

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Charles Mills
Everything everyone has said so far is correct but IMHO all of the answers to question 1. (which is really two questions, kernel and architecture) have started at a level of detail beyond your question. The z/OS hardware is its own architecture. It is not x86 or POWER or Sparc or any popular

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Edward Jaffe
Charles Mills wrote: ... I guess the correct name at this point for the processor hardware design is zSeries architecture It's called z/Architecture, just like it says on the cover of the Principles of Operation manual. -- Edward E Jaffe Phoenix Software International, Inc 5200 W Century

Re: Use of workstation agent

2006-07-18 Thread Art Celestini
You may find this useful ... http://users.forthnet.gr/pat/efotinis/programs/taskarrange.html At 12:02 PM 7/18/2006, David W Neylon wrote: [...snip...] I could start Extra that way also but I'm a bit... Hmmm.. OCD about which order my apps are on the taskbar. :) Yes, I recognize that it's

Re: 64-bits is a really big number!

2006-07-18 Thread Tom Marchant
On Tue, 18 Jul 2006 11:28:16 -0400, Veilleux, Jon L [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip! You may have 64bit addressing, but you only really have the amount of real storage on your system plus the amount of paging space available. Try to use any more and its CRASH. You can monitor storage usage like

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread Ted MacNEIL
It's called z/Architecture I always called the manual z/Arch POP. I picked that up from a Canadian IBM'r. But, most didn't understand what that meant. When in doubt. PANIC!! -- For IBM-MAIN subscribe / signoff / archive

Re: MIDAW on non-IBM Devices

2006-07-18 Thread Ron and Jenny Hawkins
Rex, Perhaps they did not explain themselves correctly. Only Hitachi writes the microcode for the RAID500 storage controller. Sometimes they add things especially for HP, sometimes they add things just for us, and sometimes they add things for everybody. This is true from the 7700E/XP256

Re: Newbie Questions!

2006-07-18 Thread SUBSCRIBE IBM-MAIN tdell
All of the threads here where right on target, and should serve you well if you follow them as prescribed. I have found that there is no definitive source on the architecture. It is really a vast landscape , I actually read the hardware manual supplied with the 3031 CPU's,, they had a lot of

Re: newbie questions!

2006-07-18 Thread john gilmore
'Humility'? Anyone entering a new field has perforce much to learn from some of its experienced denizens, but humility should be short-lived. No good programmer I have every known was at all humble, and the great ones were/are well aware of their abilities, even [some few of them] arrogant

Help With BLANK Screen using TN3270

2006-07-18 Thread Sonny Gupta
I appreciate all the help that I received and special Thanks to Steve Arnett who recommended changing the MTU to 1492 and it fixed the problem. I would have never considered this as an issue as the Flex Machine is still running with MTU=1500. I notice that your maximum block size(MTU) for the

Re: Info-zip on Z/OS 1.6 and up

2006-07-18 Thread Edward Jaffe
Brian Westerman wrote: The support is only available on the PC(s) that run Z/OS, not a real mainframe, this issue will not affect real mainframes (i.e. Z9), but there are a lot of us that have Flex-based systems that could run into this problem, that's why I posted the answer. I have