On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:07:29 +1000 Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 14:48 -0500, Knutson, Sam wrote:
: I like http://www.memtest86.com/ FREE, GPL, bootable ISO you can
: download.
:Ditto - and is an option on every boot menu on every one of my systems.
:And it's usually
Binyamin Dissen wrote:
On Tue, 23 Jan 2007 06:07:29 +1000 Shane [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
:On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 14:48 -0500, Knutson, Sam wrote:
: I like http://www.memtest86.com/ FREE, GPL, bootable ISO you can
: download.
:Ditto - and is an option on every boot menu on every one of my
On 06/02/07, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(I guess this is to Shane?) I'd try swapping out the memory, and/or
swapping the memory sticks in the machine and see if it gets past that
point. Usually, if memtest86 shops for some reason, there is a memory
problem; probably it's in the
Steve Flynn wrote:
On 06/02/07, Kim Goldenberg [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(I guess this is to Shane?) I'd try swapping out the memory, and/or
swapping the memory sticks in the machine and see if it gets past that
point. Usually, if memtest86 shops for some reason, there is a memory
problem;
Clark Morris wrote:
But how do we get the message across to the non-technical people in
charge of purchasing or authorizing purchase of laptops that this is
important when you can get the My Eyes Glaze Over effect when you try
to explain it to many IT professionals? I think the Hasp song book
On 23 Jan 2007 09:20:43 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
On Mon, 2007-01-22 at 20:05 +0100, R.S. wrote:
David Andrews wrote:
[...]
Some years ago we had a mixture of servers running NetWare [...]
raised a NMI [...] on the average of once a month
Once a month? What hardware did
On Tue, 2007-01-23 at 15:00 -0400, Clark Morris wrote:
But how do we get the message across to the non-technical people in
charge of purchasing or authorizing purchase of laptops that this is
important
You're asking ME? My shop is spinning down the m/f in favor of a SAP
implementation on
On 23 Jan 2007 11:00:44 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Clark Morris)
wrote:
But how do we get the message across to the non-technical people in
charge of purchasing or authorizing purchase of laptops that this is
important when you can get the My Eyes Glaze Over effect when you try
to explain it to
On Sun, 2007-01-21 at 12:59 -0400, Clark Morris wrote:
The non-ECC seems to be very reliable on both of the currently used
computers at home (1 desktop, 1 laptop).
How do you tell the difference between crashes due to memory failures
and crashes due to crapware?
Some years ago we had a mixture
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 11:03:20 -0600, Eric Chevalier wrote:
Come on, folks; let's have a little perspective on this issue! Perhaps
you can't find laptops with ECC memory because the non-ECC memory is
completely reliable for all _practical_ purposes? Am I running a risk
of data corruption on my
On 22 Jan 2007 05:33:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Andrews) wrote:
How do you tell the difference between crashes due to memory failures
and crashes due to crapware?
I have a very flaky computer - but repeated long memory tests have not
shown the problem to be memory.A workplace could
On 21 Jan 2007 08:03:52 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Shmuel
Metz , Seymour J.) wrote:
Decades before, people kept printed copies of programs they wrote.
The Devil is in the details. Were those programs proprietary? Did
those people also take copies of legally protected financial or
personnel files?
On 19 Jan 2007 13:18:32 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL)
wrote:
$12? 6/8 GB? (NOTE: That's a 'G' -- GIG!)
When I gave that amount, I did not specify a size.
The small guys are used for copying data from computer to computer -
and they are still larger than mainframe partitions I worked
:06 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Non - ECC, non-parity memory was Re: Risks (Was Re: Decoding
the encryption puzzle)
On 22 Jan 2007 05:33:23 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (David Andrews) wrote:
How do you tell the difference between crashes due to memory failures
and crashes due to crapware
On Mon, 22 Jan 2007 08:06:08 -0700, Howard Brazee wrote:
On 22 Jan 2007 05:33:23 -0800, (David Andrews) wrote:
How do you tell the difference between crashes due to memory failures
and crashes due to crapware?
I have a very flaky computer - but repeated long memory tests have not
shown the
$12? 6/8 GB? (NOTE: That's a 'G' -- GIG!)
When I gave that amount, I did not specify a size.
Then how can we compare?
I gave $100.00 for 8GB.
You gave $12.00 for WHAT?
This makes the response less than useful.
.
Questions?
Concerns?
(Screams of Outrage?)
David Andrews wrote:
[...]
Some years ago we had a mixture of servers running NetWare -- some of
them had ECC memory and some had parity. The ECC-checked servers never
burped, but when the parity-checked servers detected a memory fault they
raised a NMI and NetWare stopped hard. This happened
-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Tom Moulder
Sent: Monday, January 22, 2007 10:18 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Non - ECC, non-parity memory was Re: Risks (Was Re:
Decoding the encryption puzzle)
Howard
When I ran the memory test it came up
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/19/2007
at 12:47 PM, Howard Brazee [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Decades before, people kept printed copies of programs they wrote.
The Devil is in the details. Were those programs proprietary? Did
those people also take copies of legally protected financial or
personnel
On 20 Jan 2007 18:27:24 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/19/2007
at 11:03 AM, Eric Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Come on, folks; let's have a little perspective on this issue!
Perhaps you can't find laptops with ECC memory because the non-ECC
memory
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
Of Clark Morris
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2007 10:59 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Non - ECC, non-parity memory was Re: Risks (Was Re: Decoding the
encryption puzzle)
snip
The non-ECC seems
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/19/2007
at 11:03 AM, Eric Chevalier [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
Come on, folks; let's have a little perspective on this issue!
Perhaps you can't find laptops with ECC memory because the non-ECC
memory is completely reliable for all _practical_ purposes?
Perhaps it is.
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2007
at 04:55 PM, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You are describing one of the core differences between real
mainframes and etch-a-sketch computers -- the real McCoy use parity
for memory
Parity is so 1950's. The real McCoy uses ECC, with logging of
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:08:19 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2007
at 04:55 PM, Tom Schmidt said:
You are describing one of the core differences between real
mainframes and etch-a-sketch computers -- the real McCoy use parity
for memory
Parity is so
In a message dated 1/19/2007 12:13:02 A.M. Central Standard Time,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
particle hits on memory were possible. I don't recall the
precise figures, but seem to recall it was around one hit per
megabyte per 10**4 or 10**5 hours. For memory with any means of
error
On 19 Jan 2007 05:07:48 -0800, in bit.listserv.ibm-main you wrote:
In [EMAIL PROTECTED], on 01/18/2007
at 04:55 PM, Tom Schmidt [EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
You are describing one of the core differences between real
mainframes and etch-a-sketch computers -- the real McCoy use parity
for memory
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Jeffrey Deaver
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 6:44 PM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Re: Decoding the encryption puzzle
I wouldn't encrypt data within a datacenter. The only data
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 19:44:29 -0600, Jeffrey Deaver wrote:
Its too easy for one of those 'secure' tapes to walk out the door with a
disgruntled employee. And when the audit turns up a tape missing - its not
going to care how or where it went - only that its missing and not
encrypted. More than
On 19 Jan 2007 05:29:45 -0800,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Tom Marchant) wrote:
On Fri, 19 Jan 2007 07:08:19 -0500, Shmuel Metz (Seymour J.) wrote:
Machines without any error checking don't even qualify as
etch-a-sketch; they're just junk.
When the IBM PC was first introduced in 1981, it was the first
One necessary step to security where desktops connect to secure
information is to disable all outbound ports on the desktop. Don't know
if it is a windoz feature or ISV software.
IBM Mainframe Discussion List IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU wrote on 01/19/2007
11:56:52 AM:
So what happens when that
Those memory sticks hold a lot of information and they're very small.
Two days after I bought a 6GB USB drive for $117 CDN, I saw an 8GB one at The
Source by Circuit City (formerly Radio Shack), for $105.
Years ago, I saw somebody bring in their own 30GB hard drive, after creating
XMIT
On 19 Jan 2007 08:57:13 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Dave
Kopischke) wrote:
So what happens when that disgruntled employee decrypts a tape and
downloads it to a USB memory stick and walks out the door with that ???
Those memory sticks hold a lot of information and they're very small. At
some
On 19 Jan 2007 09:10:53 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
One necessary step to security where desktops connect to secure
information is to disable all outbound ports on the desktop. Don't know
if it is a windoz feature or ISV software.
Why not go all the way? Replace the customers' computers
So what happens when that disgruntled employee decrypts
a tape and downloads it to a USB memory stick and walks
out the door with that ???
Data loss (theft) and need to notify - if you even know about it. There
are products available for PCs/laptops that will stop data copies to
removable media
On 19 Jan 2007 09:15:38 -0800, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Ted MacNEIL)
wrote:
Two days after I bought a 6GB USB drive for $117 CDN, I saw an 8GB one at The
Source by Circuit City (formerly Radio Shack), for $105.
I've seen drives for around $12.
Years ago, I saw somebody bring in their own 30GB hard
the encryption puzzle
the older article
Feds crawl toward encryption
http://weblog.infoworld.com/techwatch/archives/009492.html
from above:
Such appears to be the case with this year's infamous data-leak episode of
millions of U.S. veterans' private information last May, which prompted the
White House
equation.
something that might have 1percent fraud ... if it changed by two orders of
magnitude ... it could go to nearly all fraud ... possibly resulting in
collapse of the infrastructure
recent posts in this thread:
http://www.garlic.com/~lynn/2007c.html#1 Decoding the encryption puzzle
http
Decades before, people kept printed copies of programs they wrote.
Sometimes they even used them in job interviews.
Is that significantly different?
No. They're both wrong.
It's just easier, now.
$12? 6/8 GB? (NOTE: That's a 'G' -- GIG!)
.
Questions?
Concerns?
(Screams of Outrage?)
From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, January 19, 2007 4:22 pm
$12? 6/8 GB? (NOTE: That's a 'G' -- GIG!)
I don't know about that, but here is 500GB for $158:
http://ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=705654
Storage costs are WAY down...
Buy two, 1TB for $316 ain't bad...
The last 2 weeks I spent at my last job, I spent a lot of time FTPing stuff
to my PC. I made 2 CDs worth, as it wouldn't quite fit on 1 CD. I kept all
my JCL libraries, all of the mainframe system documentation libraries I
could find, and all of our Parmlib, system Proclib, etc. There was no
I downloaded one PDS to the mainframe at my current job, but I do look at
other stuff on the CDs every now and then. It can be very helpfull.
It can also be theft of intellectual property!
.
Questions?
Concerns?
(Screams of Outrage?)
That's a USB-connected stand-alone hard drive, not a memory stick.
I don't know about that, but here is 500GB for $158:
http://ecost.com/ecost/shop/detail.asp?DPNo=705654
At 08:27 AM 1/20/2007, you wrote:
From: Ted MacNEIL [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Fri, January 19, 2007 4:22 pm
$12? 6/8
There I was, looking into the teeth of a serious ice storm, any my
company laptop dies. I have a generator and satellite telecom so that
part was covered. But the laptop was a single point of failure between
me working from home or risking life and limb having to go out in the
storm. The prospect
I cannot say that mainframe encryption software is NEVER wrong, but I can
say that I have been using various mainframe encryption processes for 30
years (and a few days) and I have 'lost' data 5 times. I could not remember
the encryption key those 5 times. I still have those files and once in a
-Original Message-
From: IBM Mainframe Discussion List [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Hal Merritt
Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 10:49 AM
To: IBM-MAIN@BAMA.UA.EDU
Subject: Decoding the encryption puzzle
There I was, looking into the teeth of a serious ice storm, any my
On Thu, 2007-01-18 at 11:49 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The failure was in the encryption software.
Perhaps the failure was bit rot in that cheap notebook hard drive?
Most desktop systems don't do much in the way of file integrity, so when
decryption fails on a corrupt file it fails
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:53:01 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The encryption software starts before Windows. The software failed with a
blue screen of death.
My sense is that one or more critical files on the hard drive used by the
software became corrupt as PC files are known to do. But I don't
On Thu, 18 Jan 2007 14:53:01 -0600, Hal Merritt wrote:
The complete loss of mission critical data even for a few days could be
catastrophic to the company. One solution is to have backups that aren't
encrypted. But, then, what would be the point of encryption in the first
place? As I said, a
Unless the chip is:
1) on a voyage outside our atmosphere
or
2) on a ceramic substrate foolishly made from clay not tested for the
presence of radioactive impurities, it is highly unlikely an alpha
particle, regardless of its diet and lack of exercise, will make it to a
chip.
Those of
The encryption of data on a backup tape does not need to be done ALL the time.
If one level of backup are in your automated tape library, in a data center
with card-key access in a building with armed guards on all entrances who
inspect packages coming in AND going out, then I don't think you need
Hal Merritt wrote:
The encryption software starts before Windows. The software failed with a blue screen of death.
My sense is that one or more critical files on the hard drive used by the software became corrupt as PC files are known to do. But I don't know.
But my point was the laptop
I wouldn't encrypt data within a datacenter. The only data that gets
encrypted around here is data that goes out the door. Internal tapes are
not encrypted.
If one level of backup are in your automated tape library, in a data
center
with card-key access in a building with armed guards on all
If one of your tapes walks out the door with a disgruntled employee, then you
have the wrong guards on the door. They are not just supposed to be there for
decoration. No one person or organization can be responsible for the security
of EVERYTHING. So make sure your guards do their job and you
If one of your tapes walks out the door with a disgruntled employee, then
you
have the wrong guards on the door. They are not just supposed to be there
for
decoration. No one person or organization can be responsible for the
security
of EVERYTHING. So make sure your guards do their job and you
Kirk Talman wrote:
2) on a ceramic substrate foolishly made from clay not tested for the
presence of radioactive impurities, it is highly unlikely an alpha
particle, regardless of its diet and lack of exercise, will make it to a
chip.
I seem to remember an article by IBM staffers in
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