[PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected now. however judging from the responses and the

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Frédéric Hardy
Hello ! Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected now. All my apologizes for this

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki: http://blog.mageekbox.net/?post/2011/07/10/La-r%C3%A9volution-est-en-marche-%21 the author thought that anybody can vote who has wiki account, but that is corrected

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then again, Everyone with @php.net is what was decided. not sure about how to formalize that. Note that vote isn't meant to be the

[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-WEBMASTER] Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Adam Harvey
On 11 July 2011 17:43, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45 AM, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: I'd say for core features everybody with write access to the core, but then again, Everyone with @php.net is what was decided. Was it? The RFC

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Hi, if somebody wonders why do we have those french guys registering on the wiki:

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
about the fix, instead of only registered users, we have to add group support, so we can add php-src/doc/etc. to it and manually add external and approved persons. If anyone has time to do it, please go ahead, code is in SVN. On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:56 AM, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:56, Pierre Joye pierre@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:53 AM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 10:45, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 1:23 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: Hi, if

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:59 AM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: There is no accept an account. Thanks. Creating an account in the wiki, creates an account. Like I said, the user doesn't have write access to anything unless someone explicitly gives him write access

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
It is very hard to detect which php group a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. And the wiki can tell you if a person has write access to that specific page. Most external users have assigned write

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to detect which php group a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. And the wiki can tell you if a

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Pierre Joye
hi, On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to detect which php group a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. It is somehow easier in the wiki, we have groups afair. Also for the votes, only svn account is

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to detect which php group a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. We can easily detect if an account is an php.net SVN account though. And the wiki can tell you if a person

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to detect which php group a person belongs to, our karma system doesn't work like that. We can easily detect

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: It is very hard to detect which php group a person

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:03, Hannes Magnusson

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:07 PM, Hannes Magnusson

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Philip Olson
On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:18 PM, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11,

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 19:05, Philip Olson phi...@roshambo.org wrote: On Jul 11, 2011, at 8:11 AM, Ferenc Kovacs wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 12:48, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11,

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I really don't understand the need for a quick hack at this time. Cooperating with the plugin authors on how to implement better checks there would imo make much more sense. Is

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Peter Cowburn
On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I really don't understand the need for a quick hack at this time. Cooperating with the plugin authors on how to

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Peter Cowburn petercowb...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs to be reviewed manually anyway, so I really don't understand the need

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 21:38, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 9:23 PM, Peter Cowburn petercowb...@gmail.com wrote: On 11 July 2011 20:07, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 11:24 AM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The current vote still needs

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people in that group so you won't need to manually filter out not-allowed-to-vote votes. -Hannes I see. if you only need the @php.net usernames, you can use the https://master.php.net/fetch/allusers.php api with the proper

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people in that group so you won't need to manually filter out not-allowed-to-vote votes. -Hannes I see. if you only need the @php.net usernames, you can use

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Ferenc Kovacs
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people in that group so you won't need to manually filter out

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 23:23, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 11:09 PM, Hannes Magnusson hannes.magnus...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 11, 2011 at 22:13, Ferenc Kovacs tyr...@gmail.com wrote: Stas means when we print who has voted, to only print votes by people

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide those specific votes during rendering of the vote results is very silly to me. Manually summerizing the votes like has been done in the past on many RFCs into with karma and

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Hannes Magnusson
On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 00:34, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide those specific votes during rendering of the vote results is very silly to me. Manually summerizing

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Philip Olson
On Jul 11, 2011, at 3:48 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: On Tue, Jul 12, 2011 at 00:34, Stas Malyshev smalys...@sugarcrm.com wrote: Hi! On 7/11/11 3:20 PM, Hannes Magnusson wrote: The idea Stas proposed of leaving the votes untouched and just hide those specific votes during rendering of

Re: [PHP-DEV] sudden spike in wiki registrations

2011-07-11 Thread Stas Malyshev
Hi! On 7/11/11 4:24 PM, Philip Olson wrote: The patch fixed a bug where the voting mechanism was not in sync with the passed voting RFC. It's closer now to most peoples interpretation of said RFC. Changing this would, I'm afraid, require changing the RFC which I suppose means an amendment [with