Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

[Tom Fairhurst]

Hello, Miriam. When I want to add a site to my Favorites, I arrow to Add to 
Favorites and press enter. I then press Shift+Tab twice to reach the Add 
button. That's it. If you wish to remove a site, just arrow to it and press 
Delete. The New Folder button can be used if you wish to place the site in a 
different folder. I have never used it. Remember that the deleted site will 
go to your Recycle Bin and remain there until you remove it. While it's in 
the Recycle Bin, it can also be restored. HTH.


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:01 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

OK, I found directions for organizing alphabetically. I still want to know
how to properly add websites although I just did one, apparently, correctly.
And I want to know how to delete the ones that I don't want anymore.

Miriam

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Miriam Vieni
Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 4:51 PM
To: jaws users list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] organizing my favorites

Can someone please, once again, explain how to organize my favorites in I E
11 so that they are in alphabetic order in one column? Also, when I want to
add a new website and am on the website and after I press control D,
precisely what do I do to add the website? There's a button for new folder.
What does that mean?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Itunes script error message

[Tom Fairhurst]

Hello, Leonard. I don't know what version of Windows you are using. I am 
using Windows 7 64-bit Pro. While I didn't have the error you describe, I 
did have an entry point error that would not go away. After considerable 
research, I found a very detailed article that helped me. If you wish, 
please send me your E-mail address, and I'll send it to  you, as I don't 
wish to clutter the list. I will tell you that I had to do two clean 
reinstallations of both ICloud and ITunes. It wasn't easy, but the error has 
not returned. Unfortunately, I saved the article without copying the link, 
but I would be glad to send it to you. It may apply in Windows 10 as well.


-Original Message- 
From: leonard morris

Sent: Sunday, May 20, 2018 8:58 PM
To: Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Itunes script error message

I am using iTunes Version 12.7.4.80 and current Jaws 2018. I keep
getting the following error message. I have to reboot the computer for
it to go away. However, sooner or later it returnes.

unknown script call to:
TheTabKey

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

[Tom Fairhurst]

I'm chiming in late here, but how do Chrome users solve captchas? I've heard 
of Captcha Be Gone.


-Original Message- 
From: gary-melconian

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Have not used firefox ever since the massive changes that firefox did with 
57 and beyond.  I just  use chrome more then I used firefox versions.   As 
with chrome, there are all kinds of accessibility extensions and other 
extension that  makes my browsing a  pleasure on chrome where as on firefox 
its like going through sites  on a horse and buggy where as on chrome its 
like going through sites with a fast sports car.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:50 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Aaron,

Thanks for posting your detailed rant. I, too, am enormously frustrated that 
browsing has become so time--consuming and sometimes unreliable. I'm 
constantly switching among three browsers and two versions of JAWS because 
different combinations work best with different websites, and even then some 
websites remain hard, if not impossible, to navigate. The other day, a 
certain website owner had taken steps to make everything accessible, only 
for me to install Firefox 60 and generate a host of new issues. No wonder 
some website designers get frustrated with accessibility obligations.


Developments on the Web seem to be moving faster than screenreader companies 
can keep up with. But I wonder why non-screenreader users aren't also 
encountering limitations with different browsers, since each seems to 
function differently.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of 
Valiant8086

Sent: Sunday, May 13, 2018 3:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Firefox 60

Hi.


I switched to Firefox  60, found it still a bit lacking in performance, and 
switched back to Chrome. A site that makes it painfully clear which one is 
winning is amazon.com. Just doing a search for something and noticing how 
long pages need to appear and be readable, and how responsive navigation 
keys arrows and quick nav etc are. Firefox is almost back to what it was in 
52, but not totally. I was under the impression it would run better than 
chrome but that hasn't been so for me.



Edge is reasonably quick loading pages and allowing me to begin arrowing on 
them, but the way it announces going in and out of regions and such is very 
verbose and I find it slows me down too much. I'm really a little annoyed at 
just how much it seems to be asking to have a really good browsing 
experience this day and age. Chrome doesn't have it all either, it can 
easily get messed up and start using all of your ram. I'm not having that 
problem myself luckily, but I have multiple friends that are, each of them 
on multiple computers too.



In any case, I'm not trying to convert you folks to Chrome or anything like 
that, guess I wanted to rant a little.




Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy 
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - 
http://valiantGalaxy.com;




On 5/11/2018 4:17 PM, Cristóbal wrote:

I wrote VFO with issues I was having with Jaws and Firefox 60 and Jaws
losing speech for a second or two when arrowing around a webpage.
Almost as if it was catching up with the keystrokes. Jaws wasn't slow
or sluggish per say as when it was moving around, it felt responsive,
but the speech silencing thing was getting annoying. That along with
an existing issue I've been having with Jaws just randomly losing
focus on any site and me having to maximize the window or tab or shift
plus tab to get focus back all the time made the user experience a 
frustrating one.

The response I got back was:
Thank you for contacting VFO ® Technical Support.  I have tried
Firefox 60 with the most recent version of JAWS® 2018 and have not
really found the issues you mention.  At times, I have found that
sometimes, when a Web site is still loading, it might get sluggish,
but if you give it a minute or 2, you can navigate just fine.  I just
spent about 5-10 minutes navigating a very resource-intensive Web site
and was actually very impressed with performance.  Therefore, I am not
sure this is a general issue but one that might be specific to your 
machine.


So, aside from me not waiting around a minute or two for every single
webpage to load when I didn't have to before, looks like I'm going to
have to call tech support so I can demonstrate for them these odd
speech pauses and whatnot. Don't know if I'll be able to do so anytime
soon as I work during the day, but anyway. I've gone back to V 52.X in the 
meantime.

Regarding the alerts, I was able to disable those with an about:config
tweek a while back. I'll 

Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Accessible CCleaner Versions, Download Link From Jaws-Users Website

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am a Windows 7 user, so I'm not sure how well this applies to Windows 10. 
Furthermore, I don't use C Clener. However, I do use a program called 
Registry First-Aid. This program gets rid of unused registry entries. I 
believe C Cleaner may do this, too. If it does, its funcions differ from 
Disk Cleanup. Disk Cleanup is used to obtain more disk space on your hard 
drive or any drive you choose. It does this by removing various temporary 
files which can be customized by the user. One can optionally remove System 
Restore points and programs from Programs and Features or whatever the 
aplicable option is for Windows 10. Disk Cleanup is not a substitute for 
fixing registry errors, cleaning viruses, or removing spyware. If I've 
missed something, other listers can comment.


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Thursday, May 03, 2018 2:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Accessible CCleaner Versions, Download Link 

From Jaws-Users Website


Just for my information folks, what does the small c cleaner do that the
disk cleaner that comes along with windows 10 doesn't do? Can't I just press
the windows key ant type clean and be taken to the disk clean up provided by
windows 10?   Won't that do the job? Just wondering. Thank you for letting
me break into your conversation.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Mike B.
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 7:10 PM
To: Jaws-Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Accessible CCleaner Versions, Download Link From
Jaws-Users Website

Hi All,

David, thank you very much for putting these accessible versions up on your
website / server.  Okay folks, here you go:

Long as I am around here you go gang, enjoy.

http://jaws-users.com/programs/Disk/C_CleanerDownloadPage.html


Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Mike B.

To: Jaws-Users List
Sent: Wednesday, May 02, 2018 3:09 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS Accessible CCleaner Versions


Hi All,

I have sent the following Jaws accessible CCleaner versions to our esteemed
leader, Senñor Ferrin, and after he gets them posted to the server he'll
post where to download them.  The accessible versions are 5.38, 5.39, 5.40,
5.40 portable, & 5.40 Slim.
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sennt from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Tom Fairhurst]

Thanks so much for the clarification. It is Windows Live Mail which is 
discontinued. I now understand.


-Original Message- 
From: David Whitehead

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 5:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

Good evening;
when you say windows live mail,
are you talking about the windows live mail which has been discontinued by
Microsoft?
the one which is never to be updated?
or are you talking about the windows mail app, with windows 10.
if it's the windows live mail,
the autofill will never work, because there's no jaws scripting, so, even
the NVDA doesn't autofill.
if your talking about the windows 10 mail app, again there's no jaws
scripting, however with the NVDA, there's a windows essentials add-on which
works well.


  Statistics are like a bikini.  What they reveal is suggestive, but
what they conceal is vital.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of
Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 4:55 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook.
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the problem

has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact,
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated,
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.

-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail

[Tom Fairhurst]

I have the same problem in Windows Live Mail as you are having in Outlook. 
Autocomplete has never worked for me. I began using JAWS 17, and the problem 
has been unabated through JAWS 2018 on a Windows 7 64-bit Pro PC. In fact, 
when I pressed Control+K just now, the Check Names feature was activated, 
but no names were found. When another screen reader is used, the 
Autocomplete feature works perfectly. I'm sorry to say that.


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Wednesday, April 25, 2018 3:19 PM
To: jaws users list
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook

With a lot of help from David Whitehead, my Outlook 2016 is working. But the
auto complete isn't so basically, I suppose there's still something
corrupted. The Microsoft person told me that he'd emptied auto complete, and
that if I write the first few letters and press control K, I'd get a list of
relevant addresses from which I could choose. I tried that just now with my
daughter's address and the list the control K brought up was completely
irrelevant. And I still have to paste in the correct address for the DB
Review list. David helped me upgrade to Jaws 2018 and we got rid of the to
Miriam folder,so I think that auto complete is just not going to happen,
except for the blind democracy list for some unknown reason.

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

[Tom Fairhurst]

I haven't tried the software yet. I am chiming in on this late. My only 
other suggestion si DropBox.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 11:57 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Did anyone try the software that the article talks about?  Is there 
alternative software that is Jaws accessible?


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Rick Justice

Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 4:41 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Hi Leonard,
You
might give this a try,
Easeus MobiMover

https://www.easeus.com/iphone-data-transfer/transfer-text-messages-from-iphone-to-pc-with-ease.html

HTH,
Rick Justice

"Tomorrow's another day, another way!"
"and if tomorrow never comes, problem solved!"

- Original Message - 
From: "Leonard Morris" 

To: 
Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2018 1:30 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes


I want it easier way to transfer music from my computer to my iPhone. I’ve
always had issues doing this.

Every country has an identity, history, custom, and culture. It’s a unique
landscape in determining how its people Live, work, and play.


On Apr 24, 2018, at 2:06 AM, JM Casey  wrote:

Probably. But that depends on what it is you want to do. iTunes is a
store, a media player and probably others things too (I don't use it,
myself). Are you looking to buy music and movies? Or just play stuff?



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Leonard Morris
Sent: April 21, 2018 4:26 PM
To: Jaws Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Alternative to iTunes

Is there an alternative to iTunes that  works well with jaws 2018 or jaws
18?

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Re: [JAWS-Users] jaws repair

[Tom Fairhurst]

Thank you very much

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2018 7:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] jaws repair

Download the latest jaws 2018 build from vfo then when you have the 
executable in your downloads folder run it and you will get repair .


E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, April 4, 2018 5:03 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Hello

`I have the latest version of JAWS 2018, but I may need to repair it. I don’t 
see the repair option in the Tools menu Under JAWS in the Programs menu in 
Windows 7 64-bit Pro. I see from the web site that I may need to use the 
JAWS CD I have and that the option to repair should be under Setup. I only 
see Screen Reader, Training Materials, and Cancel. Am I missing something?

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[JAWS-Users] Hello

[Tom Fairhurst]

`I have the latest version of JAWS 2018, but I may need to repair it. I don’t 
see the repair option in the Tools menu Under JAWS in the Programs menu in 
Windows 7 64-bit Pro. I see from the web site that I may need to use the JAWS 
CD I have and that the option to repair should be under Setup. I only see 
Screen Reader, Training Materials, and Cancel. Am I missing something?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] BrailleSense U2 QWERTY

[Tom Fairhurst]

I see what you mean about the HIMS braille driver. In some cases, you must 
select a file to continue the installation. I have done so, but JAWS still 
doesn't activate the display. I have put it into Terminal mode using a USB 
port with Windows 7 64-bit Pro and JAWS 2018. I call HIMS, and they didn't 
know anything else to do. My E-mail address is tfairhu...@kc.rr.com. After I 
send this message, I'll reboot and see if anything changes. For those on the 
list wanting to get rid of the load braille driver message, the checkbox is 
located in JAWS basic braille settings when one adds a braille display or 
modify its settings.


-Original Message- 
From: Stephen Bennett

Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2018 5:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] BrailleSense U2 QWERTY

Hi tom

I've done a number of these and, if you let the hims driver install where it 
wants to, Jaws should find it.


When installing the hims driver, there are two or three separate pieces of 
software within the driver package. Each one has a Finish Button and it's a 
bit confusing because when you press Finish the process starts again. It's 
very easy to assume you've made a booboo and people often press Cancel or 
close the installer too soon.  just let the thing go round a few times till 
it goes away.
The other thing to remember is to not connect the U2 till the Hims driver is 
finished installing.


Shout if you need further assistance.

All the Best

SB

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2018 4:26 PM
To: List Jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] BrailleSense U2 QWERTY

Has anyone connected one of these as a braille display? I am using Windows 7 
64-bit Pro with JAWS 2018. If the HIMS braille driver is needed, where 
should it be placed on my hard drive? I get the message that the braille 
driver can’t be loaded.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

[Tom Fairhurst]

I have the same problem. Now I can't use my braille display and I keep 
getting the message even if I select "No braille display" in the braille 
basics menu of JAWS.


-Original Message- 
From: Sharon S

Sent: Monday, April 02, 2018 12:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi, I have had this message coming up for quite some time. For me it started
after I tried to install a braille driver for my braille display and even
though I followed all instructions I could never get the braille displays to
work. Now I am stuck with this braille driver error every time I load Jaws.
When it first happened to me I ask for suggestions but none of them worked.

Sorry not much help but if you do find an answer I would love to hear it.

From Shaz.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
michael's mail
Sent: Sunday, April 1, 2018 8:05 PM
To: jaws help list 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] braille driver

Hi guys i have noticed on 1 of my laptops after it boots up i get a message
saying their was an error loading the braille  driver.
I do not use braille how can i fix this.
Cheers Michael.
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[JAWS-Users] BrailleSense U2 QWERTY

[Tom Fairhurst]

Has anyone connected one of these as a braille display? I am using Windows 7 
64-bit Pro with JAWS 2018. If the HIMS braille driver is needed, where should 
it be placed on my hard drive? I get the message that the braille driver can’t 
be loaded.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC Volume and all hotkeys reconfiguration fix

[Tom Fairhurst]

I have just delved into this player, and I have a lot to learn. The DVD I 
tried played just fine. I appreciate the discussion.


-Original Message- 
From: David Ferrin

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 7:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VLC Volume and all hotkeys reconfiguration fix

So far my up and down arrow keys work as the volume control just fine
without any extra tinkering. VLC seems to play things louder than other
media players, JMO.

-Original Message- 
From: Hareth

Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2018 3:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VLC Volume and all hotkeys reconfiguration fix

Hi David and all,
Couldn't find any useful documentation for VLC hotkeys CLI configuration.
That got me on the old lazy boy track to fetch the VLC's config file it
self.
Found it, and it was a fat one, opened it with notepad++, because the
regular notepad would be a wrong choice.
The file Directory:"C:\Users\XXX\AppData\Roaming\vlc\vlcrc
"vlcrc" is our file to play with.
Long story short, the hotkeys configuration lines start with the line
number 4000 on that file
the volume hotkey configuration started with line number 4206
I've changed my volume hotkeys into ctrl+shift+UP and Down.
Worked like a big scotch shot.
Now I can say VLC is indeed worth the effort.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

[Tom Fairhurst]

This is especially true when in a work environment.

-Original Message- 
From: JOHN RIEHL

Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 1:30 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

As Jaws users we shouldn't "have to  put up with it". I also experience this
freezing, both when switching between programs and when doing things in
Outlook. If the fact that Jaws uses a lot of Ram, particularly when
switching programs, I would hope that Jaws programmers and developers are
addressing this, particularly since there is only one other competitor to
Jaws on the market.
We should not have to put up with issues that affect our productivity,
particularly if the issues are caused by the assistive  technology we're
using to be productive!
 John   to
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of john_just...@verizon.net
Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2018 10:17 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Hello Mike,
John Justice, here.
I work for the state and use configurations which are similar to the ones
you describe.

In the interest of correcting the problem, I brought it to the attention of
our upper level Access group.  Their explanation doesn't solve any issues
but it might give you food for thought.

1. THE ISSUE AT HAND:  apparently, what we are experiencing is the
assignment of RAM.  Current versions of Jaws tend to utilize a considerable
amount of RAM, especially when changing from one software environment to
another.  The result is that the system has to {wait} for enough RAM  to
perform the function.
2. PROGRAM PRIORITY ASSIGNMENT:  It is possible to assign certain programs
on a PC so that they have a priority when RAM is distributed. This is way
beyond my pay grade Mike but apparently, within reason, certain programs can
be allowed to operate at the expense of others, at least temporarily. There
are exceptions to this rule and certain pieces of software are assigned a
permanent top priority.  I imagine that the Windows operating system might
have that kind of assignment.
3.  According to our A. T. department, reassignment involves the division of
RAM  into smaller compartments which then handle this function.  The entire
process scares the heck out of me.  It isn't something I'd want to attempt.
There might be someone on our list with more technological knowledge than I
have.
4.  A WORKING SOLUTION:  I am now operating two computers simultaneously.
One is dedicated to some of the functions I need while the second unit
handles primary functions.  For example, I use the secondary unit to load
and display Excel spreadsheets.  But even with that arrangement, certain
pieces of software will temporarily shut down Jaws until they are fully
loaded.  The down time has been measured  and it is usually approximately32
seconds.
5.  CREATING HOTKEYS FOR RELOADING JAWS:  Finally, we have established
hotkeys which can be used to encourage Jaws to restart.  Occasionally,
though rarely, Jaws wil not restart after one of these incidents.  We use
three key combinations which are dedicated to reactivating Jaws.

The entire thing is frustrating to say the least, Mike.  But it's something
we just put up with since jaws performs so well in most other respects.


JOHN AND LINDA JUSTICE
WITH GUIDE DOGS EDWIN AND CALYPSOE
PERSONAL E-MAIL: john_just...@verizon.net

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List  On Behalf Of
Mike Mote
Sent: Thursday, March 8, 2018 11:18 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] JAWS freezing when switching between programs

Good morning all!  I'm trying to help with one of our employees here at work
on an issue where JAWS freezes unexpectedly when switching from one window
to another using the Alt Tab key.  The issue is difficult to resolve because
it doesn't happen every time he switches windows.  It does happen two to
three times a day on average, and is hindering his efforts to perform his
job.  I have offered several solutions, but nothing has worked yet.  When
JAWS freezes, he has to wait some 30 seconds before speech comes back.

I wanted to reach out to the list to see if any of you had any ideas as to
how I could minimize this behavior.  I would appreciate any feedback.
Thanks very much!







Mike Mote

Manager of Accessibility and Workforce Development, Human Resources

IFB Solutions

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

[Tom Fairhurst]

Yes.

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 10:51 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Thanks.

So you have no serious accessibility concerns, especially when compared with
v12, which you used to use, and which it seems most respondents on both
lists I've asked are still using?



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: March 2, 2018 11:39 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

I am using
Abbyy FineReader 14. I was using 12, but it quit working properly for me.
Their tech people couldn't  seem to figure out the problem. Since I liked
the program, I decided to buy the standard version 14, and I still like it.

-Original Message-
From: JM Casey
Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 8:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Sweet.

I like the sound of the screen-shot scanner. Sadly the pro version is almost
twice the cost, although it does look like they sell the screenshot add-on
separately?

So far I haven't found a single person using a screen-reader and the latest
ABBYY, version 14.



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Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: March 2, 2018 2:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Hi,

I Use 11 Pro, I know that it is an old one but I got a really good deal with
the time.
I Love it, you can scan direct to Microsoft Word and there is a screen shot
scanner, this is only in the pro version though I think.
You can right click a .PDF file and scan it direct in to Microsoft Word.


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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 01 March 2018 17:00
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Hey. I'm looking into this software, and it seems useful and has a lot of
recommendations for its excellent OCR. It's also not too expensive in
comparison to some others I have seen. Does anyone here use it? Someone
commented that the latest version, 14, is not as accessible as version 12
was. Can anyone on the list confirm this and describe issues? Unfortunately,
the company does not seem to provide older versions on their site.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am using
Abbyy FineReader 14. I was using 12, but it quit working properly for me.
Their tech people couldn't  seem to figure out the problem. Since I liked 
the program, I decided to buy the standard version 14, and I still like it.


-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 8:34 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Sweet.

I like the sound of the screen-shot scanner. Sadly the pro version is almost
twice the cost, although it does look like they sell the screenshot add-on
separately?

So far I haven't found a single person using a screen-reader and the latest
ABBYY, version 14.



-Original Message-
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Behalf Of HICKS, Steven (ROYAL CORNWALL HOSPITALS NHS TRUST)
Sent: March 2, 2018 2:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Hi,

I Use 11 Pro, I know that it is an old one but I got a really good deal with
the time.
I Love it, you can scan direct to Microsoft Word and there is a screen shot
scanner, this is only in the pro version though I think.
You can right click a .PDF file and scan it direct in to Microsoft Word.


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Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: 01 March 2018 17:00
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Abbyy FineReader...anyone use it?

Hey. I'm looking into this software, and it seems useful and has a lot of
recommendations for its excellent OCR. It's also not too expensive in
comparison to some others I have seen. Does anyone here use it? Someone
commented that the latest version, 14, is not as accessible as version 12
was. Can anyone on the list confirm this and describe issues? Unfortunately,
the company does not seem to provide older versions on their site.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

[Tom Fairhurst]

I found Sound Alerts and muted them. It worked.

-Original Message- 
From: Cristóbal

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 11:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

This sounds like the Webvisum add-on. I recalled going in and disabling some 
settings as I only used it for the capcia stuff and didn't need the other 
accessibility features. It may also depend on any other extensions you also 
have running. NoScript can be pretty clicky too for example.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List <jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com> On Behalf Of 
Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Thursday, March 1, 2018 8:42 PM
To: List Jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

When Fire Fox starts, it keeps making an annoying clicking sound. I know 
this mightt be due to Webvisum loading, but it can continue for a minute or 
longer when clicking on a web site. Is there any way to turn off sounds in 
Fire Fox or must we just live with them. This has been true for a long time 
with earlier versions of JAWS and Window-Eyes. I’m finally getting tired 
enough  of it to ask about it. I didn’t see any options in the Fire Fox 
menus. Does JAWS have any settings for this? I am using JAWS 2018 with 
Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

[Tom Fairhurst]

That make's sense. I'll try it. Thank you.

-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 11:04 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

Press alt-t for tools, then arrow up to Webvisum submenu. Press enter. Arrow 
up or down through the options. I believe "sound" something or other 
contains the option to silence this clicking.


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Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2018 11:42 PM
To: List Jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

When Fire Fox starts, it keeps making an annoying clicking sound. I know 
this mightt be due to Webvisum loading, but it can continue for a minute or 
longer when clicking on a web site. Is there any way to turn off sounds in 
Fire Fox or must we just live with them. This has been true for a long time 
with earlier versions of JAWS and Window-Eyes. I’m finally getting tired 
enough  of it to ask about it. I didn’t see any options in the Fire Fox 
menus. Does JAWS have any settings for this? I am using JAWS 2018 with 
Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Thanks.

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[JAWS-Users] Fire Fox ESR Version

[Tom Fairhurst]

When Fire Fox starts, it keeps making an annoying clicking sound. I know this 
mightt be due to Webvisum loading, but it can continue for a minute or longer 
when clicking on a web site. Is there any way to turn off sounds in Fire Fox or 
must we just live with them. This has been true for a long time with earlier 
versions of JAWS and Window-Eyes. I’m finally getting tired enough  of it to 
ask about it. I didn’t see any options in the Fire Fox menus. Does JAWS have 
any settings for this? I am using JAWS 2018 with Windows 7 64-Bit Pro. Thanks.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links +What'sNew

[Tom Fairhurst]

I get this message also, even when I am scanning my computer with my Vipre.

-Original Message- 
From: Kevin Lee

Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 6:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


I get a notification that security and maintenance is turned off click to 
turn it on

What do I click?
When I press enter nothing happens or jaws says nothing
I press tab and I nothing happens!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

From: David Moore
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 1:11 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Hello all!
I installed the new JAWS 2018 update on both of my laptops, and many issues 
in windows 10 are fixed.

The mail app is almost working perfectly.
I get no repeats of words, and the new message I bring up reads right away. 
JAWS works great now, in the One note app. Also, in Edge, JAWS can now list 
the form fields, headings, and links. That helps a lot with Edge. You still 
cannot select text with the virtual PC cursor in Edge.
JAWS 2018, with this update, works very well in the Windows Defender 
security center window. It is very snappy and it reads the information 
concerning the scan. I have noticed that action center works much better 
with JAWS as well, with this update.

If you have any questions, please ask.
Yes, I almost forgot.
JAWS now works the best in Google Docs in Google Chrome browser. You do not 
need to use Firefox anymore to use Google Docs, sheets, and so on.

Google Drive and docs are very snappy with this new update.
Have a great one!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mitch
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 6:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Hello Inamuddin,  I was hopeful that the latest 2018 update would solve the 
Windows Mail troubles as well but was disappointed in the results as noted 
by you and others.
With little to lose, I did a repair on this new version earlier today.  The 
repair took about 4 times longer than the initial successful install but 
since doing this, the Windows 10 Mail program is almost working properly. 
On occasion I have to unload and reload both JAWS and Windows Mail and, for 
some reason, that seems to restore proper behavior on this Dell Desktop of 
recent manufacture.
I would be interested if others with Windows 10 Mail issues find a repair of 
the latest update results in improvement.  Thanks, Mitch


If a married man is alone in the woods and no one hears him,   is he still 
wrong?


Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Inam Uddin
Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2018 3:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links 
+What'sNew


Yes they have tried to fix it and it is working better than the last JAWS 
update but Windows 10 mail app is still not working as normal as in JAWS 18.

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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Add my Skype ID:
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From: jobennet...@btinternet.com
Sent: Friday, February 23, 2018 3:01 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + 
What'sNew


Brilliant!  Now my windows 10 email app is working properly again.

Jo

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 9:51 PM
To: Jaws-Users List
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Jaws Latest Update Direct Download Links + What's New

Hi All,

Below are the direct download links for the February Jaws update,
J2018.1802.78, + what's new in this release.

32 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x86.exe

64 Bit:

http://jaws2018.vfo.digital/180278JA45TX/J2018.1802.78enu-x64.exe

What's new in this release:
Enhancements in JAWS 2018.1802.78 (February 2018)

The following is a list of improvements made in JAWS 2018 between the
December 2017 update and the February 2018 update.

To download the latest release, visit the
Downloads web page.

JAWS
list of 12 items
When you open an inaccessible PDF file in Adobe Reader which normally just
reports: "Empty Document", JAWS now displays a dialog box asking if you want
to perform OCR directly on the file. Choose Yes to have JAWS recognize the
image and display the text in the Results Viewer or choose No to close the
dialog
box without performing OCR. This is the same as using the layered command
INSERT+SPACEBAR, O, D to OCR a document. We are now proactively 

Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible free anti virus

[Tom Fairhurst]

That's interesting. I found Sophos Home to be totally inaccessible. I
couldn't read any of the controlls. I admit I haven't tried it with the
ltest version of JAWS. I am using Vipre. It seems that, as said in an other
pstsk each program has at least one accessibility problem

-Original Message- 
From: Aran A

Sent: Friday, February 09, 2018 6:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible free anti virus


Hello,

I use Sophos Home.

https://home.sophos.com/

Best wishes!

-Original Message- 
From: JM Casey

Sent: Friday, February 9, 2018 3:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible free anti virus

Windows Defender for anti-virus. Free version of MalwareBytes for
anti-malware.

Defender is already built into your Windows 10 and probably good enough for
your purposes. It's less annoying than free AV out nowadays, which is always
full of ads and hardly ever great from an accessibility standpoint. And it
does detect a lot of stuff. Arguably, too much. But you can exclude areas of
your drive if you are getting false positives.



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Behalf Of Geovanni bahena
Sent: February 9, 2018 8:47 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible free anti virus

Hey everyone,

Subject line says it all. Running windows 10. What are people suggestions?
Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

[Tom Fairhurst]

Unfortunately, I have. I have written many E-mails and made calls about 
their Amazon Cloud Player and difficulties in downloading purchased music. 
As a result, I refuse to purchase digital music from them. I don't know if 
any improvements have been made recently or not, but having a phone number 
in reach is an improvement. I have explored web sites too numerous to 
mention in which contact information is extremely hard to find or to act 
upon. I will note that I have ordered other things on Amazon and Kindle 
successfully. I ordered an item I couldn't use, and they were very helpful 
with the return.


-Original Message- 
From: rosecomb...@cox.net

Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 11:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

If I actually have to call Amazon it isn't accessible.  I feel that way
about any website, if I actually have to call them something is definitely
wrong with the site.  I have never called Amazon for anything in the past at
least 8 years.


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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Lenny McHugh
Sent: Friday, January 19, 2018 12:17 PM
To: JFW List 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Amazon.com and screen readers

I found this to be quite interesting and helpful. The Amazon web site
detects if you are using jaws, probably other screen readers as well. Anyway
when it detects jaws a screen overlay is also displayed giving phone number
contact information for people with disabilities.
The other day I needed to call and asked Karen to bring up the page on her I
pad. She told me that there is no such number. I came upstairs and there it
was. She since did a search and learned that it detects screen readers.
What great customer service.

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There is also a very extensive resource list for the blind

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Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

[Tom Fairhurst]

Do you do this with your phone? Do you hold your phone's camera up to your 
PC screen?


-Original Message- 
From: Mr. Ed

Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 10:46 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I use Be My Eyes which is a free IOS app. It brings up a live person and you
put your camera on the screen and they can read it to you. Workds great and
is free.
Mr. Ed

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 3:42 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

I use capcha be gone, around 3 dollars a month, works well.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: January 7, 2018 2:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] web CAPTCHA

is it possible to use the jaws convenient OCR to solve web CAPTCHA?
Email is golden!!!
Kevin Lee
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[JAWS-Users] Starting Playback

[Tom Fairhurst]

I just have to ask this question one more time. Does pressing the Spacebar 
cause playback to start when you are outside the main window, for example, 
in the library window? If I press the Spaceb ar in a menu or while doing a 
search queery in the library, the Spacebar functions the same way as it 
would in the main window.


-Original Message- 
From: Michael Massey

Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 6:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Winamp the default player

Hi, all.  On my Dell Xps-1501 laptop running Windows 7 64 bit, Windows Media
player tries to launch when I try to play a file someone sent me.  The file
plays for a couple of seconds and stops.  I tried to change the setting in
default programs and got nowhere.  I went into the Winamp preferences menu
and got nowhere using that menu either.  Could somebody refresh my memory so
I can make Winamp the default player on my laptop?  Incidentally, on my
desktop computer running the latest version of Windows 10 and Winamp, the
files from within the main folder play just fine.  Thanks.



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Re: [JAWS-Users] How to make Winamp the default player

[Tom Fairhurst]

I had to refresh my memory, too.  It is under general Preferences. Arrow 
down just once, and you'll see File Types. When thi node is opened, you can 
work with it as you wish.


-Original Message- 
From: Michael Massey

Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2018 6:40 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] How to make Winamp the default player

Hi, all.  On my Dell Xps-1501 laptop running Windows 7 64 bit, Windows Media
player tries to launch when I try to play a file someone sent me.  The file
plays for a couple of seconds and stops.  I tried to change the setting in
default programs and got nowhere.  I went into the Winamp preferences menu
and got nowhere using that menu either.  Could somebody refresh my memory so
I can make Winamp the default player on my laptop?  Incidentally, on my
desktop computer running the latest version of Windows 10 and Winamp, the
files from within the main folder play just fine.  Thanks.



Mike M.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer

[Tom Fairhurst]

This may be a silly question. Can the Pearl Camera be used by itself, or is 
a scanner required?


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 3:46 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer

Steve, I realize my question sounded silly, but the Pearl is characterized 
as "portable." I suppose portable means you can shift it around your desk, 
but that's a more limited definition than I have in my head, which is 
something like "carryable," as in take it on trips out. But thanks for 
clarifying.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Steve

Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 1:37 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer

Um, you can't take a photo with the Perl camera if you're away from your Pc.
The Perl connects via a USB cable that is about 36 inches long.

- Original Message - 
From: "Adrian Spratt" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, December 16, 2017 9:27 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] VFO's Pearl Camera offer



JAWS 2018 purchasers are being offered a deal on VFO's Pearl Camera. I'd
be interested in any thoughts on the value of this device. For example, if
I'm away from my PC, does taking a photo with the Pearl have any use?
Also, how does the Pearl/JFW compare to the KNFB Reader or any other
accessible OCR device? Thanks. If I'm not asking the right questions,
please ask and answer them for me!!
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

[Tom Fairhurst]

In many programs, if you look in the Help menu, you will find an About 
option. pressing Enter on this will give you the version number and other 
pertinent informatin about the program.


-Original Message- 
From: jyandt.mar...@comcast.net

Sent: Friday, December 15, 2017 2:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Version Identification

In any program, could anyone refresh my memory on how to find out a version 
of a program? I am using JAWS 2018 and Windows 10 on a Dell laptop. Thanks.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] problem when installing jaws 2018.

[Tom Fairhurst]

If you installed a nontandem version of JAWS, the update feature won't be 
available. Keep in mind that this has nothing to do with whether you are 
using JAWS for home use only or whether you are using it for both home and 
work. Since I am relatively new to JAWS, other listers may provide further 
clarification.


-Original Message- 
From: Sue J. Ward

Sent: Saturday, October 28, 2017 10:28 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] problem when installing jaws 2018.

 Hello I did install Jaws 2018, but when I went to install it I kept on
getting this message can not find common local DLL please reinstall the
package, then there was an okay box so I hit the okay button and
everything went well but when in the help section when I arrow down to
check for updates it says check for updates unavailable. this is on both
systems since am running windows7 home premium on both computers. Does
anyone know what this is all about? I did migrate my settings from Jaws
18.0 to 2018. Far as I know my SMA is all up to date til 2019 and all of
the software updates on both systems are the latest. Any help would be
appreciated. Thank you.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] help removing avast

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am almost cetrtain that I have gotten Narrator to work in Safe Mode on my 
Windows 7 Machine. Sometimes, that is not enough as those pesky antivirus 
programs may require that a captcha be solved.


-Original Message- 
From: Holger Fiallo

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 5:45 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help removing avast

Thanks. I did sowithout any success. It odes not want to uninstall. I am the
only  one who runs this PC and have it in administer.

-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 4:51 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] help removing avast

Hi Holger,

See if the steps below will get it done for you:
https://support.avast.com/en-us/article/14/
To uninstall Avast Antivirus, follow these steps using the Avast Setup
wizard which you can access via the Programs and FeaturesAdd or Remove
Programs
section of your Windows Control Panel:

list of 17 items
1. Log into Windows as an administrator and ensure no other programs are
running.
2. Right-click the Windows Start button and select Programs and Features
from the menu that appears.
3. Right-click your version of Avast Antivirus, then select Uninstall from
the drop-down menu.
4. Press the Win key and X key simultaneously, then select Programs and
Features from the menu that appears.
5. Right-click your version of Avast Antivirus, then select Uninstall from
the drop-down menu.
6. Click the Windows Start button and select Control Panel.
7. Under Programs, click Uninstall a program if you are using the default
category view,  ...or click Programs and Features if you are using the
large/small
icons view.
8. Right-click your version of Avast Antivirus, then select Uninstall from
the drop-down menu.
9. Click the Windows Start button and select Control Panel,  ...or select
Settings and then click Control Panel if you are using the classic Start
menu.

10. Under Programs, click Uninstall a program if you are using the default
category view,  ...or double-click Programs and Features if you are using
the
classic view.
11. Right-click your version of Avast Antivirus, then select Uninstall from
the drop-down menu.
12. Click the Windows Start button and select Control Panel,  ...or select
Settings and then click Control Panel if you are using the classic Start
menu.

13. Click Add or Remove Programs if you are using the category view,  ...or
double-click Add or Remove Programs if you are using the classic view.
14. Select your version of Avast Antivirus by clicking it once, then click
Remove in the bottom-right corner of the highlighted selection.
15. When the Avast Setup wizard appears, click Uninstall at the bottom of
the screen.
16. Click Yes to confirm the uninstallation of Avast Antivirus.
17. When the uninstallation is complete, click Restart computer to reboot
your PC immediately, or click Restart later if you want to manually reboot
your
PC at a later time.
list end

After your PC restarts, Avast Antivirus is uninstalled. Your PC is no longer
protected by Avast against malware and other threats.

Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Holger Fiallo

To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Sent: Saturday, October 21, 2017 2:43 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] help removing avast


Need help removing avast, I went to the web page and was told to download a
uninstall program but to remove avast, need to put PC in safe mode. If I do
so, jaws, NVDA or narrator will not work. How can I uninstall avast?


Holger Fiallo
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Favorites won't display Properly in IE 11

[Tom Fairhurst]

Thank so much. I went  into the View Menu and, sure enough, Favorites was 
not checked. I can't believe I didn't think of that, except that I don't 
remember unchecking it. I hve no reason to it.uncheck


-Original Message- 
From: Mike B.

Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 5:20 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Favorites won't display Properly in IE 11

Hi Tom,

I don't quite understand what problem you're having.  Is your Favorites
folder not showing?  Is the Favorites toolbar checked?
Take care.  Mike.  Go Dodgers!
Sent from my iBarstool.
Arguing with a woman is like reading a software license agreement.  In the
end you have to ignore everything, & click I agree.
- Original Message - 
From: Tom Fairhurst

To: List Jaws
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2017 10:05 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Favorites won't display Properly in IE 11


I am using the latest version of JAWS. I have
Windows 7 64-bit Pro. How can I refresh them? I know the folder exists and
the favorites are in it. Thanks for any help.
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[JAWS-Users] Favorites won't display Properly in IE 11

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am using the latest version of JAWS. I have 
Windows 7 64-bit Pro. How can I refresh them? I know the folder exists and the 
favorites are in it. Thanks for any help.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

[Tom Fairhurst]

This feature has never worked with JAWS and WLM.

-Original Message- 
From: Reed

Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 2:31 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

When I am in the TO: field, I type the first letter of a name.  With
previous versions of JAWS, the first name beginning with that first letter
in my autocomplete list would be spoken.  If I was to hit the down-arrow
key, the next name in the list would be spoken.  I could down-arrow through
the list until I found the name I wanted.  When I hit the tab key, the name
would be inserted in to the TO: field and I could begin typing the next
to-name and repeat the process for this second name.  None of this is
working with the new release of JAWS.  After I have typed that first letter
and hit the down-arrow key, I hear a beep; indicating that I can't
down-arrow through the list.  So, it isn't that JAWS just isn't announcing
it.

Reed
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: September 27, 2017 11:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

It does. Jaws just doesn’t announce it.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of David Whitehead
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 10:04 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

Hello;
I also noticed with this newest update, the  AutoComplete doesn't work in
outlook 2016.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Maria Campbell
Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2017 12:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Updated JAWS 18

This build of JAWS 18 still does not read the status line in Thunderbird
with insert num pad 3, as where JAWS 2018 does.


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Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

[Tom Fairhurst]

It's been 5 years sinc I purchsed a computer, but I remember finding Norton 
stored on my coputer. Even though it ws not being used, the fac that the 
program was even installed was causing unexpected behaviors  for my 
computer. I had to get hep working with the registry and changing 
permissions with registry keys to make things work properly. As I have said 
in my other posts, be very carefuly when playing with your registry. You 
thik you have problems now, your computer may turn into a complete disaster 
if the wrong move is made--perhaps even needing to reinstall Windows. Good 
luck.


-Original Message- 
From: cheez

Sent: Saturday, September 23, 2017 10:32 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

Thanks, Steve for your suggestions.  I'll check this stuff out.
As far as I know, I only have McAfee installed.

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "Steve" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 11:36 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


It really has nothing to do with the manufacturer of a laptop.  I have 
owned three HP laptops over the years; as well as Acer and Averatec's.


For the most part, a laptop is a laptop; they mainly vary in how the 
keyboard is layed out.


*CONSIDERATIONS*

Most manufactuers install a lot of "bloatware" on the laptop.  When you 
got it, did you get rid of all that extra crap?

You could start with a program like PC DeCrapifier.

Have you made sure you don't have conflicting anti-virus programs running? 
Again, a lot of manufacturers include trial anti-virus programs. Uninstall 
them if you're not going to use that particular one; most of them supply 
McAfee or Symantek.


Third, look at your bootup programs.  Open the Msconfig program and go to 
that list.  Uncheck things you don't need to necessarily run at start-up. 
Many programs that you install think they need to run at start-up, it 
isn't wholely necessary.  Example: you don't really need Dropbox or 
Microsoft Office etc. running at startup.  You do, of course, want your 
anti-virus, various windows services, and of course, Jaws to run.



As somebody else mentioned, you can find websites to help you identify 
programs and/or processes that you can then consider not being necessary.


After you make adjustments in your MsConfig file, you need to enable 
"selective startup" so that only those items you designated will run at 
start-up.


As somebody else mentioned, if you had a dual-boot setup, you will have a 
delay that they specified so you can choose which operating system you 
wanted to start with.


It may also make a difference if you have a regular disk drive (not a 
solidstate drive), to clean it (get rid of unnecessary and temporary 
files), then take a look at the defragmentation report to see if you c 
ould gain some efficiencies by de-fragging your disk.


This won't affect boot-up times, but it will speed up your access.  When 
you shutdown, you could choose to put your laptop in Sleep mode rather 
than completely shutting it down.  This will put your currently open 
programs and windows into memory, so that when you wake it up, all you 
need to do is enter your password and you'd be up and running again.


And, as a last resort, sometimes you just get so much garbage in the 
installation of windows and programs, that just doing a clean re-install 
of windows and restoring your programs and files after that would be an 
option. To me, it's a pain in the butt, so the slow boot-up times would 
really have to bother me to do that.
- Original Message - 
From: "cheez" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


I have the latest version of JAWS.  But I'm beginning to think a friend of 
mine was correct when I told him I was getting a new HP laptop.

he said, "I don't like HP.  They suck."

Vince

- Original Message - 
From: "David Pearson" 

To: 
Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 4:27 AM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer


My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from 
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.


At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 


To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 
seconds

and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.

Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

[Tom Fairhurst]

My computer had been starting slowly for a long time. I was having trouble 
with Office 365, so I called the Microsoft Disability
Desk. The lady who helped me with Office 365 also helped me to speed up my 
computer at startup by disabling a number of programs in msconfig. I don't 
recommend looking at this lightly because doing so without knowing what you 
are doing could keep your computer from starting properly. once I understood 
what she was doing, things indeed went much  faster, even though I put back 
a few programs I wanted. Thus, your issues may involve JAWS by itself, be in 
combination wwith other programs, or not JAWS related at all.


-Original Message- 
From: David Pearson

Sent: Friday, September 22, 2017 6:27 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer

My computer started to take a long time to start up after I went from
window eyes and installed Jaws 18.

At 10:41 PM 9/21/2017, you wrote:

Laura, you are lucky your computer is ready to use so quickly.
Mine takes almost 2 minutes before I hear, "JAWS Home Use."  Drives me 
nuts!


Vince

- Original Message - From: "Laura Richardson" 
To: 
Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2017 3:50 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Strange occurrence turning on the computer



Hello,



Jaws 18 and Windows 10 ..



Normally when I turn the computer on I wait approximately 10 to 20 seconds
and then Jaws will say "Jaws home use" and I'm ready to go.



Yesterday, when I turned the computer on after about 5 or 10 seconds Jaws
said "Jaws for windows, overlay windows zero, overlay windows zero, 
overlay

windows zero".  Then, after another 5 or 10 seconds Jaws said "Jaws home
use" and I was ready to go.



I've had this computer for almost four months and this has never happened.
Has anybody experienced anything like this and is this something to be
concerned about?  Thanks for any input.



Laura





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

[Tom Fairhurst]

Honestly, I haven't tried Outlook 2016 since I still use WLM. However, it 
happens occasionally with word, but not often. I had two differeht issues 
with Excel. I called the disability desk, and they were able to help me both 
times. They remoted into my computer. You might consider calling them if 
your issues persist.


-Original Message- 
From: Miriam Vieni

Sent: Thursday, September 07, 2017 5:40 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Outlook 2016

I'm wondering if anyone else has had this issue. When I turn on my computer
and try to open Outlook 2016, it often doesn't open. I have to press enter
numerous times. Even when it does open, it takes a really long time. I have
Windows 7, Jaws 18, Office 365, and I E 11. Does anyone have any
suggestions?

Miriam


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Re: [JAWS-Users] getting JAWS to read number of items in mailbox

[Tom Fairhurst]

If youpress Insert+
tab, hyou will get the number of messages in the Inbox. You will also hear 
what message you are on in the list.


-Original Message- 
From: LeDon

Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2017 5:23 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] getting JAWS to read number of items in mailbox

I don't know which email client you are using, but if it is, Outlook, press
ctrl Y it will read the number of emails in inbox.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of JOHN RIEHL
Sent: Friday, September 01, 2017 6:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] getting JAWS to read number of items in mailbox

Can anyone tell me how to get JAWS 18 to  read the number of e-mails I have
in my Outlook inbox?

Thanks.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] vipre advance security is it jaws accessible

[Tom Fairhurst]

You can use the OCR feature of jaws using Insert+space, then O, and then 
either S or W/ This will activate the JAWS cursor. you can get a little more 
information on how the scan is progressing--how many files have been scanned 
and a file name. Tjere won't be an estimated time of completion. A Vipre 
tech told me he thought they would be working more with JAWS on this. I hope 
so, because otherwise, the program is indeed accesible. He told me that 
there is no way that Vipre can give an estimated time of completion.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 6:52 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] vipre advance security is it jaws accessible

it takes some getting use to tabbing around  but it is accessible without
using the jaws cursor.  you can set schedule scans, I have the lifetime
subscription and I've not run into any virus problems or any high jacked
issues.  I have gotten those web messages your computer may be compromised
call this number and we'll help clean your computer, if you don't call we'll
be forced to disable your computer!  but all I do is manually restart my
computer and all is fine.  just to be safe I run a scan. I'm using vipre
right out of the box with really no changed settings except I turned off MS
Edge scanning cuz I don't use edge.
when running a scan jaws can't announce any of the scan but when vipre is
done, you can get results mine is usually vipre finished the scan and no
threats were found.  once you get use to vipre you'll be able to tell when a
scan is finished.
-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Sunday, August 13, 2017 4:07 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] vipre advance security is it jaws accessible

Hi, is Vipre advance security accessible with Jaws?  Does advance security
take the place of the anti-virus?

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[JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I thought I would let you know that I have purchased Vipre. I advised the tech 
of the need to read the scan progress bar better. He was very attentive and 
idicated that they would be working with JAWS in the future. We’ll see what 
happens.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

[Tom Fairhurst]

I must agree here. The Microsoft accessibility desk helped me with my 
installation of Office 365. I couldn't  open Excel files. Ultimately, they 
completely reinstalled Office 365, and it works much better now. It took a 
good hour, but they were very helpful throughout the process.


-Original Message- 
From: crystallo...@ca.inter.net

Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2017 9:36 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

I can only speak for myself, but one of the big reasons I have always
prefered PCs over Macs, and Android phones over iPhones, is the amount
of choice available. I sympathise with thsoe who really want to use
Edge and want it to work for them, but the truth is that you don't
have to use Microsoft's products if they dont' make you happy. Firefox
is still a great browser and it's fully supported in JAWS. Chrome
works beautifully nowadays when three years ago that wasn't at all the
case. Don't be afraid of choice. Embrace it. Nobody has to use Edge
and because of the nature of the WWW, that will never be the case. I
think Microsoft is a lot better with accessibility concerns now than
they used to be. Its' not perfect, but that's something we should at
least be somewhat accustomed to by now. Remember when Windows 3.1 came
out, and everyone was using it except for blind people because of how
crap the screen reader support was at the time?

And yeah, office accessibility is a work in progress, but they're
doing a lot to improve it with every update. I can understand why
Office is an accessibility priority and not Edge. Simply put, there
just isn't really a great replacement for mS office out there; there's
a good reason most of the working world still uses it. Edge is just
one browser among several.

Quoting Jim Fettgather :


I must respectfully suggest that if you do have the option of updating
Word 2016 to the very latest version, the choices in the spell check
dialog are now accessed by simply pressing the tab key, and it works
very very well.
It is highly accessible, I am an office 365 subscriber, so that is how
I was able to get the latest update.
I am unsure about installations of Office that are not on a 365
subscription, but I believe that you can go to the Accounts tab under
the file tab and attempt to check for updates.
I completely acknowledge the hideous situation with the Edge browser,
but I believe that Microsoft has been pretty transparent in making
their plans known to incrementally improve accessibility of their
Windows and Office products.



On 7/9/17, Judy Jones  wrote:

I agree, Microsoft has seemed to be lip service only with a few good
accessibility teasers,but that is all.

I do appreciate, though, the Microsoft Accessibility Line.  That is the 
one

good thing, but not enough.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Charles Adkins
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 1:09 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

It has been painfully obvious to me that Microsoft has just given talk 
and

nothing more. If they really wanted computers to talk like Macs do they
could make them do so. All one needs do is look at the Edge browser and 
say

no more. I wonder if they'll strike a deal with vfo and Office like they
did
with Window-eyes. Anything to stall or keep from making computers talk 
like

a Mac. So one could say "Chuck, shut up and get a mac!" My reply, easier
said than done.

Just my thoughts. I've sent Microsoft feedback on this subject. Microsoft
has the money and the ability to do anything they wish.

Sent from my iPhone


On Jul 9, 2017, at 1:51 PM, Rose  wrote:

Two years since Microsoft Edge has been almost mandatory for every one
using Windows 10 until you switch the default at least, and still not
truly accessible to anyone unless you use narrator.  This from company
who claims to want accessibility out of the box,.  I am supposed to
believe they really do consider screen readers along with
magnification but truly, totally blind people are being left out
again!  Just use the spell check in Word 2016 or Outlook 2016 for
example, why did they break what has worked for the past 20 years, eye

candy, that is why!




-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com]
On Behalf Of Jason White
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 9:08 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

According to an interview on FSCast, support for JAWS in Microsoft
Edge is expected to be available soon.

-Original Message-
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On Behalf Of Debby
Sent: Sunday, July 9, 2017 11:55 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Microsoft Edge

Hi Judy,

Others might know more, but from what I have heard JAWS and Edge are
not 

[JAWS-Users] Reading Combo Boxes

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-bit Pro and IE 11. As I was filling out 
the form for a Microsoft account, I had to select my birthdate:  date, month, 
and year. These selections are in list boxes. The down and up arrow keys read 
nothing. I could not read these unless I tabbed out and back into them. The 
read line key read nothing. Pressing Alt-Down Arrow didn’t change anything. 
Pressing the right and left arrow keys moved me to the next field on the page. 
I was able to fill out the form but I had to tab in and out of the fields 
several times to make sure I had chosen correctly. Any help would be 
appreciated.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] starting jaws manually

[Tom Fairhurst]

Press Insert+J, arrow up to Help, and press Enter. Then arrow up to Startup 
Wizard and press enter. You will find options for starting JAWS. You can 
choose Never to have JAWS not start automatically. Control+Alt+J is a good 
hot key, but you can use any hot key you like. Keep in mind that you must 
set the hot key for the JAWS icon by using Windows properties. Also, if you 
update your JAWS version or uninstall and reinstall for any reason, you must 
set up the hot key again for the new icon.


-Original Message- 
From: mack

Sent: Sunday, July 02, 2017 8:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] starting jaws manually

i'm finally going to install jaws before f s o takes away my window eyes
migration deal. however, i don't want jaws to load at startup, i just
want to use it manually. when i first install jaws, i will set windows
to not load at the log in screen or at windows startup, because i know
jaws will load automatically, where do i go to stop jaws from loading at
startup, is ctrl alt j a good hot key to use to start jaws manually?

--
from Mack


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[JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

Well, I have egg on my face. After a couple of reinstallations and my discovery 
of the JAWS help file, I got things going. The information was quite helpful. I 
unchecked visualization and the detector plug-in. I was already using the 
classic skin. I couldn’t find anything about modern skin support in the latest 
Winamp version. However, the program runs much more smoothly. Thanks so much 
for everyone’s help. I am left with one petty annoyance. As you know, the 
spacebar has the play/pause function. I would expect this while in the main 
window. However, it also occurs in the library window. The work-around is to 
press the JAWS bypass key before pressing the spacebar. As I said, it is only a 
little nuisance. But it would be nice not to need this work-around. Thanks 
again.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

Well, I have egg on my face now. I did find the JAWS help file, and it was 
quite useful. After two reinstallations, I finally got things right. I did 
uncheck the detector plug-in and Visualization during the installation. I 
was using the classic skin anyway. I figured out that every time I press 
Insert+3, the bypass key before pressing the spacebar, it will behave 
normally. The only petty annoyance I have now is that I cannot review the 
contents of the search box with the arrow keys. At least, I can review them 
with Control+Up Arrow.


-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 11:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I understand your confusion. I have done more testing, and I will try to be
clearer about my issues. Though I have more than one, I'll stick with one
for now. I have not tried the playlist editor. The keys in the main window
seem to work as I expect. However, when I'm in the library window, things
don't work so well. Let's say I am in the search box looking for songs,
artists, or albums. For example, I try to search for mamas and papasin the
library window. When I press the spacebar, the last song I played will start
playing. This should only happen in the main window. I must go to the main
window to stop it. When I am returned to the search box, I cannot reliably
type in it, nor can I read the text with the arrow keys. I can only read
characters when I am deleting them with the backspace key. I can read the
entire line with Control+Insert+Up Arrow. Thus, I can't search for anything.
If I try to keep typing, my keystrokes are not passed to the search box, but
rather, they are processed as if intended for the main window. . If I press
the spacebar again, my song will start playhing again. Winamp seems to
process some keystrokes as if  I am in the main window when I am actually in
the library window. I am wondering if I need to change some Winamp settings.
I guess I can try to reinstall, but I hate to do this because to get a clean
install, I will have to rebuild my library from scratch.

-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I'm getting confused...

What exactly are you trying to do?

Are you trying to play a song from your library using the library pane of
Winamp?

If this is the case, then you should use the enter key, not the spacebar.

It's similar to iTunes.

You can arrow up and down the library, but until you press enter on the
selection, the track won't play, though when you press the spacebar, it will
keep playing the previous track you had loaded in Winamp.

I'm also interested in why you are using the Winamp Library?

I find it very difficult to use, though I don't know if scripts have been
created for the Winamp Library feature.  Having said that though, I simply
use File Explorer to manage my audio tracks.

Since I have no sight, I don't bother with cover art, or anything like that,
I simply manage the audio tracks as files.

Regardless, Winamp won't stop working, simply because it's not being
developed, there simply won't be any support or updates, so you'll have to
get your support or help from online sources, or lists like these.

Perhaps you could explain in finer detail what it is you're trying to
accomplish, and how you're going about trying to achieve this.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Yes. I assume you mean Winamp help. So, you are saying, for example, that
when you are in the library window that pressing the spacebar does not start
music playing.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I have no issues with winamp and Jaws.  Have you looked at the help file?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:47 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Winamp is still a disaster. Every time I press the spacebar the song I last
played starts playing. I would expect this behavior in the main Windows, but
not in the library window. Also, as I said in an earlier post, Alt 1 through
Alt 0 will read the column headers in Window-Eyes. I believe Alt+3 opens the
Data editor. I’ll be using Window-Eyes until it breaks or until you JAWS
users can come up with some better solutions. I know, I know, Winamp is
supposed to be broken soon, too.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

I understand your confusion. I have done more testing, and I will try to be 
clearer about my issues. Though I have more than one, I'll stick with one 
for now. I have not tried the playlist editor. The keys in the main window 
seem to work as I expect. However, when I'm in the library window, things 
don't work so well. Let's say I am in the search box looking for songs, 
artists, or albums. For example, I try to search for mamas and papasin the 
library window. When I press the spacebar, the last song I played will start 
playing. This should only happen in the main window. I must go to the main 
window to stop it. When I am returned to the search box, I cannot reliably 
type in it, nor can I read the text with the arrow keys. I can only read 
characters when I am deleting them with the backspace key. I can read the 
entire line with Control+Insert+Up Arrow. Thus, I can't search for anything. 
If I try to keep typing, my keystrokes are not passed to the search box, but 
rather, they are processed as if intended for the main window. . If I press 
the spacebar again, my song will start playhing again. Winamp seems to 
process some keystrokes as if  I am in the main window when I am actually in 
the library window. I am wondering if I need to change some Winamp settings. 
I guess I can try to reinstall, but I hate to do this because to get a clean 
install, I will have to rebuild my library from scratch.


-Original Message- 
From: Scorpio

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 6:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I'm getting confused...

What exactly are you trying to do?

Are you trying to play a song from your library using the library pane of
Winamp?

If this is the case, then you should use the enter key, not the spacebar.

It's similar to iTunes.

You can arrow up and down the library, but until you press enter on the
selection, the track won't play, though when you press the spacebar, it will
keep playing the previous track you had loaded in Winamp.

I'm also interested in why you are using the Winamp Library?

I find it very difficult to use, though I don't know if scripts have been
created for the Winamp Library feature.  Having said that though, I simply
use File Explorer to manage my audio tracks.

Since I have no sight, I don't bother with cover art, or anything like that,
I simply manage the audio tracks as files.

Regardless, Winamp won't stop working, simply because it's not being
developed, there simply won't be any support or updates, so you'll have to
get your support or help from online sources, or lists like these.

Perhaps you could explain in finer detail what it is you're trying to
accomplish, and how you're going about trying to achieve this.

Scorpio

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 10:28 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Yes. I assume you mean Winamp help. So, you are saying, for example, that
when you are in the library window that pressing the spacebar does not start
music playing.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I have no issues with winamp and Jaws.  Have you looked at the help file?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:47 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Winamp is still a disaster. Every time I press the spacebar the song I last
played starts playing. I would expect this behavior in the main Windows, but
not in the library window. Also, as I said in an earlier post, Alt 1 through
Alt 0 will read the column headers in Window-Eyes. I believe Alt+3 opens the
Data editor. I’ll be using Window-Eyes until it breaks or until you JAWS
users can come up with some better solutions. I know, I know, Winamp is
supposed to be broken soon, too.
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[JAWS-Users] My Apologies

[Tom Fairhurst]

I made crucial mistakes when discussing safe mode. I then realized that 
Narrator would open in safe mode. I escalated that discussion in the wrong way. 
Whatever happened between the makers of Window-Eyes and JAWS indeed has no 
place on this list. I am truly sorry.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

As another lister pointed out, my tone was terrible. I was frustrated about 
not getting help the first time, but that is no excuse.Shame on me.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I have no issues with winamp and Jaws.  Have you looked at the help file?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:47 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Winamp is still a disaster. Every time I press the spacebar the song I last 
played starts playing. I would expect this behavior in the main Windows, but 
not in the library window. Also, as I said in an earlier post, Alt 1 through 
Alt 0 will read the column headers in Window-Eyes. I believe Alt+3 opens the 
Data editor. I’ll be using Window-Eyes until it breaks or until you JAWS 
users can come up with some better solutions. I know, I know, Winamp is 
supposed to be broken soon, too.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

Yes. I assume you mean Winamp help. So, you are saying, for example, that 
when you are in the library window that pressing the spacebar does not start 
music playing.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2017 1:13 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

I have no issues with winamp and Jaws.  Have you looked at the help file?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 11:47 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Winamp

Winamp is still a disaster. Every time I press the spacebar the song I last 
played starts playing. I would expect this behavior in the main Windows, but 
not in the library window. Also, as I said in an earlier post, Alt 1 through 
Alt 0 will read the column headers in Window-Eyes. I believe Alt+3 opens the 
Data editor. I’ll be using Window-Eyes until it breaks or until you JAWS 
users can come up with some better solutions. I know, I know, Winamp is 
supposed to be broken soon, too.

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[JAWS-Users] Winamp

[Tom Fairhurst]

Winamp is still a disaster. Every time I press the spacebar the song I last 
played starts playing. I would expect this behavior in the main Windows, but 
not in the library window. Also, as I said in an earlier post, Alt 1 through 
Alt 0 will read the column headers in Window-Eyes. I believe Alt+3 opens the 
Data editor. I’ll be using Window-Eyes until it breaks or until you JAWS users 
can come up with some better solutions. I know, I know, Winamp is supposed to 
be broken soon, too.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

Yes I could. It read it in the lowest voice possible, and it is a bit 
mumbly. Also, I cannot maximize the Vipre Screen. I believe it said JAWS 
cursor, but the voice is different from the JAWS cursor's default. I'm not 
worrying about that for now. The main point is that I can read the 
information I need. My scan took a good 7 or 8 hours. I checked it later, 
and it was completed. It makes me feel better about purchasing Vipre. I am 
still considering sending Vipre an E-mail recommending that they improve 
this to the point that no OCR function would be necessary.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 12:05 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Could you read what you were trying to read?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Monday, June 26, 2017 10:36 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

\\I just got around to trying this. The OCR does help. I tried
Insert+Spacebar followed by  W and then by S. While may be not perfect,
Insert+the
results are very helpful.  Thanks for the suggestion.

-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Have you tried Convenient OCR on that screen, Tom?  Lots of times, it will 
read things that other times is invisible.
Try Insert-Space, then O then W and see if it gives you the scanning 
progress dialog.


- Original Message -
From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>
To: "List Jaws" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:25 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre



I know some of you are getting tired of this, but I thik the subject is
relevant since we are constantly tryhing to find antivirus, security, and
spyware programs that we can navigate and which do their jobs well. In
Window-Eyes, the mouse cursor can read such headings as “header text,”
block title,” total items scanned” (multiple times), “progressk,”
“right now text,” and “status text.” Uet tje actia; text is not displayed.
I can’t read any of this with JAWS. I hate to say this, but the JAWS cursor
is wortheless in this Window. NVDA reads all headings except “header text.”
Again, the actual information is not read. I will look at letting the folks
at Vipre know this, since they seem to be happy with the facts that they
have a number of visually impaired customers.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

\\I just got around to trying this. The OCR does help. I tried 
Insert+Spacebar followed by  W and then by S. While may be not perfect, the 
results are very helpful.  Thanks for the suggestion.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 2:13 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Have you tried Convenient OCR on that screen, Tom?  Lots of times, it will
read things that other times is invisible.
Try Insert-Space, then O then W and see if it gives you the scanning
progress dialog.

- Original Message - 
From: "Tom Fairhurst" <tfairhu...@kc.rr.com>

To: "List Jaws" <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2017 12:25 AM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre


I know some of you are getting tired of this, but I thik the subject is 
relevant since we are constantly tryhing to find antivirus, security, and 
spyware programs that we can navigate and which do their jobs well. In 
Window-Eyes, the mouse cursor can read such headings as “header text,” 
block title,” total items scanned” (multiple times), “progressk,” 
“right now text,” and “status text.” Uet tje actia; text is not displayed. 
I can’t read any of this with JAWS. I hate to say this, but the JAWS cursor 
is wortheless in this Window. NVDA reads all headings except “header text.” 
Again, the actual information is not read. I will look at letting the folks 
at Vipre know this, since they seem to be happy with the facts that they 
have a number of visually impaired customers.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am talking about Vipre 2017 version. As I continue to explore Vipre, JAWS 
shows any number of what it calls text blocks.  Most are labeled but not 
read. Sorry, JAWS is simply notup to speed. The touch cursor shows the text 
blocks. Further more, even when I turn on the touch cursor, I'm not sure how 
to get any action with it from the PC.Even if I can act upon them,  it would 
sure be nice if more was read. I'm sorry about being sour grapes, but you 
may hear more of this from Window-

Eyes users as they explore other programs.

-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 2:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Is the 2017 version accessible?  Can you read the scan progress?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 10:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

oh I just got the anti-virus 2017
I have a lifetime serial so threattrack notifys me before they release it to 
the public


-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, June 21, 2017 5:15 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

I will likely purchase Vipre soon, but it is good to know that someone else 
is getting the results I am. At least, I do know that it is working and is 
removing threats. At least, the rest of the interface reads well.


-Original Message-
From: Kevin
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

I haven't been able to have the scan announced , the only way I know it's 
scanning is because I arrow up and down and jaws announces pause/resume scan 
or cancel scan.  one thing vipre has is a view details button which is a 
check box.you know the scan is finished when you have no more pause/resume 
scan or the cancel button.  to get the details of the scan I tabbed and 
usually it says nothing was cleaned.  I'm running vipre anti-virus 2016 the 
full 2017 hasn't been released yet!


-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:27 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Can anyone tell the progress of a scan with JAWS 18 using Windows 7? To be 
honest I have tried THE LATEST VERSIONS OF Window- Eyes, JAWS, and NVDA. I 
simply can’t get this information. There appears to be a pane that none of 
the screen readers can read. Maybe it’s blank.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I will likely purchase Vipre soon, but it is good to know that someone else 
is getting the results I am. At least, I do know that it is working and is 
removing threats. At least, the rest of the interface reads well.


-Original Message- 
From: Kevin

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 11:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

I haven't been able to have the scan announced , the only way I know it's
scanning is because I arrow up and down and jaws announces pause/resume scan
or cancel scan.  one thing vipre has is a view details button which is a
check box.you know the scan is finished when you have no more pause/resume
scan or the cancel button.  to get the details of the scan I tabbed and
usually it says nothing was cleaned.  I'm running vipre anti-virus 2016
the full 2017 hasn't been released yet!

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:27 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Can anyone tell the progress of a scan with JAWS 18 using Windows 7? To be
honest I have tried THE LATEST VERSIONS OF Window-
Eyes, JAWS, and NVDA. I simply can’t get this information. There appears to
be a pane that none of the screen readers can read. Maybe it’s blank.
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[JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I know some of you are getting tired of this, but I thik the subject is 
relevant since we are constantly tryhing to find antivirus, security, and 
spyware programs that we can navigate and which do their jobs well. In 
Window-Eyes, the mouse cursor can read such headings as “header text,” block 
title,” total items scanned” (multiple times), “progressk,” “right now 
text,” and “status text.” Uet tje actia; text is not displayed. I can’t read 
any of this with JAWS. I hate to say this, but the JAWS cursor is wortheless in 
this Window. NVDA reads all headings except “header text.” Again, the actual 
information is not read. I will look at letting the folks at Vipre know this, 
since they seem to be happy with the facts that they have a number of visually 
impaired customers.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I actually like it pretty well. It just seems that every antivirus and 
security progrtam has at least one item that can't be read. It is better 
than others I've tried recently.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 2:25 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Other then not reading progress of scans what isn't accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 12:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

it's somewhat accessible
doesn't read progress of scans

-Original Message-
From: Dennis Long
Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 6:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Is viper accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 12:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

I haven't been able to have the scan announced , the only way I know it's 
scanning is because I arrow up and down and jaws announces pause/resume scan 
or cancel scan.  one thing vipre has is a view details button which is a 
check box.you know the scan is finished when you have no more pause/resume 
scan or the cancel button.  to get the details of the scan I tabbed and 
usually it says nothing was cleaned.  I'm running vipre anti-virus 2016 the 
full 2017 hasn't been released yet!


-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:27 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Can anyone tell the progress of a scan with JAWS 18 using Windows 7? To be 
honest I have tried THE LATEST VERSIONS OF Window- Eyes, JAWS, and NVDA. I 
simply can’t get this information. There appears to be a pane that none of 
the screen readers can read. Maybe it’s blank.

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Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

Theprogramseems fairly good except I'm not seeing how anyone can read the 
progress bar that displays details ab out the scan in progress.


-Original Message- 
From: Dennis Long

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 8:14 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Is viper accessible?

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Kevin

Sent: Saturday, June 17, 2017 12:16 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

I haven't been able to have the scan announced , the only way I know it's 
scanning is because I arrow up and down and jaws announces pause/resume scan 
or cancel scan.  one thing vipre has is a view details button which is a 
check box.you know the scan is finished when you have no more pause/resume 
scan or the cancel button.  to get the details of the scan I tabbed and 
usually it says nothing was cleaned.  I'm running vipre anti-virus 2016 the 
full 2017 hasn't been released yet!


-Original Message-
From: Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2017 7:27 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Vipre

Can anyone tell the progress of a scan with JAWS 18 using Windows 7? To be 
honest I have tried THE LATEST VERSIONS OF Window- Eyes, JAWS, and NVDA. I 
simply can’t get this information. There appears to be a pane that none of 
the screen readers can read. Maybe it’s blank.

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[JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

Can anyone tell the progress of a scan with JAWS 18 using Windows 7? To be 
honest I have tried THE LATEST VERSIONS OF Window-
Eyes, JAWS, and NVDA. I simply can’t get this information. There appears to be 
a pane that none of the screen readers can read. Maybe it’s blank.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

[Tom Fairhurst]

All I can say is that sometimes, reading a document by page may be 
preferable, as loading a large document can take time and may be sluggish. 
You can move page by page, or go to a specific page in the document. 
Changing the web setting is definitely preferable.


-Original Message- 
From: Audiobookfan

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 4:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Thanks to everyone who responded. I did get the solution in a private
email. Here's what worked:

Click the accessibility setup assistant. In the setup assistant do the
following: click next until you find read single page... set this to
read entire document. then click next until you see open in web browser
and uncheck it. then click next and finally finish.

Both of these items needed adjustment. The values above were not the
defaults.

I can now read my document, but it did take quite a while to load the
document. It's over 100 pages. Then, as I arrowed down through the
document, it seemed a little sluggish. Not snappy like reading a web
page or text document in Notepad. Is this normal for a PDF document?

Thanks,
Jeff

On 6/15/2017 3:03 AM, Adrian Spratt wrote:
I've just located David Whitehead's instructions for making Adobe Reader X 
accessible. I can't be sure, but I think they also apply to Adobe DC. I'll 
copy them below. But first, a friend wrote the following off-list:


One note on your suggestion: If you do get that dialog (when Adobe opens a 
PDF file) and check to use the current settings for the future, the choice 
will not be presented the next time. Or at least that's what I get with 
Adobe Acrobat.


Now to David Whitehead's instructions:
1, Open adobe,
2, press ctrl+k (preferences),
3, now press the letter "g"'general,
4, now tab and Uncheck, Enable Protected Mode at startup.
You need to change another setting so, tab until you have General 
highlighted again.
5. With General highlighted, press the letter I, until you have Internet 
highlighted.
6. Tab to, Display PDF in browser, if this box is checked press the 
spacebar to uncheck it.
7. Tab to the okay button, press enter to close preferences & save your 
changes, & press Alt + F4 to close Adobe.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jorge Rivas

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:48 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Hey,
Teacher Mr. Adrian, thanks, I need to do this to my new machine, that 
flies like a butterfly and stings like a bee!

Jorge
-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Adrian Spratt

Sent: Thursday, June 15, 2017 12:03 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

Yes, JAWS's convenient OCR is probably the simplest way of handling this 
problem. but I'm wondering why nothing was spoken. Typically, I get an 
Adobe dialog asking how I want the PDF file made readable. I click on my 
choice and wait. Sometimes the document is read, sometimes I'm told it's 
"blank."


Jeff, did you set up Adobe Reader for accessibility? If not, open 
Adobe/Acrobat and press control-k. JAWS will verbalize "Accessibility" 
right away. Go from there.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Jared Rimer

Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 11:40 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC

You can also do d for document which would work for those image documents.

On 6/14/2017 19:17, Steve wrote:

You may have one of those lovely image pdf files that Adobe can't
convert to text.
Try the Jaws convenient OCR Insert-space, then O, then W for Window or
S for screen or C for image.

- Original Message - From: "Audiobookfan"

To: 
Sent: Wednesday, June 14, 2017 7:53 PM
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Need help with Adobe Reader DC



Based on a suggestion from the Win10 list, I just installed Adobe
Reader DC on my Windows 10 (1703) computer. I'm using JAWS 18 latest
version.

I open a PDF document, but I can't figure out how to make it read.
Arrowing up and down just says blank or it's completely silent.
Tabbing just says tab, but no text is spoken. What am I doing wrong?
How do I get JAWS to read a PDF document?

Jeff

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[JAWS-Users] Vipre

[Tom Fairhurst]

I just downloaded the trial version of Vipre. I’m using JAWS 18 with Windows 7. 
How does one tell the progress of the scan. I have had a scan going on for 
about 3-1/2 hours. I know it can take a while, but I would like to know the 
progress—what file it is on, etc.Does it inform me when it is complete?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

[Tom Fairhurst]

Sorry that you JAWS users can't run it in safe mode, but Window-Eyes can be 
run in safe mode. . It's too bad that Freedom Scientific staff don't hav the 
courage to monitor the list like GW staff used to do for Window-Eyes. Sorry 
for the rant. Indeed, I like some of the features I am finding in JAWS that 
are not available with Window-Eyes. I stress the need for JAWS to run in 
safe mode as I have experienced the need of using safe mode for such 
processes as removing some antivirus programs and doing registry scans. 
Additionally, some folders and files can only be removed in safe mode. I 
realize that these actions must be taken with care, and not everyone feels 
comfortable with it. However, if you are careful, it can be helpful.


-Original Message- 
From: Jorge Rivas

Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 3:22 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Hi,
Safe mode is wonderful, if you have a helper with vision to read you the
menus, if you're using a Dell PC the key is F8 to get to safe mode, other
MFG's use a different key.
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Judy Jones
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 10:12 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

There are times when I really do miss WindowBridge.

Judy


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Gerald Levy
Sent: Saturday, June 10, 2017 4:20 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode


Not likely.  Eric Damery has insisted for years that it is not possible for
JAWS to be modified to provide speech in safe mode.  My understanding is
that Window Eyes provides speech in safe mode only because of a registry
hack.  Of course, hacking the registry, especially for the technically
uninitiated could be very risky.  Besides, Window Eyes is no longer being
supported, so unless you already have it installed on your computer, you may

not be able to download it any longer.  There is another open source, free
screen reader that shall remain nameless that allegedly provides speech in
safe mode, but nobody has ever produced a podcast to demonstrate how this is

accomplished.

Gerald



-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 11:15 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Hopefuly, the folks at Freedom Scientific will provide this before
Window-Eyes quits working.

-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

no, but window eyes can if you have a realtec on board sound card if you
have
it.

-Original Message- 
From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:11 PM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Can JAWS be run in safe mode in Windows 7?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

[Tom Fairhurst]

Hopefuly, the folks at Freedom Scientific will provide this before 
Window-Eyes quits working.


-Original Message- 
From: net bat66

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 9:53 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

no, but window eyes can if you have a realtec on board sound card if you 
have

it.

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From: Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Friday, June 09, 2017 6:11 PM
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Subject: [JAWS-Users] Safe Mode

Can JAWS be run in safe mode in Windows 7?
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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Tom Fairhurst]

By default, JAWS is set to read the message headders and announce the links 
count as well as read messages automatically. I have made the following 
changes that work for me. I opened a message and then pressed Insert+V for 
quick settings. The first item in the tree view is General mail settings. 
The reading of headders, the links count, and message automatic reading are 
controled here. I unchecked the first 2 boxes and left the third one 
checked. Thus, I have messages reading automatically without the other 
verbage. Even if the message should start reading below the top, at least, 
all I need to do is  press Control+Home. I have only made these changes 
recently, so I'm still experimenting a bit.


-Original Message- 
From: patti

Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 9:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how will
the read all key help? smiles
Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or sometimes
at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Tom Fairhurst]

Please accept my apology. Yes, when I'm in an open message, the tree view 
works as expected. Thanks again.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

You need to be in an open message, at least in Outlook. Outside a message, 
this option doesn't appear.


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On 
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 7:14 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I have looked under Quick Settings with Inset+V, and no such setting exists.
Searching for
Resh gets no0 results, and searching for Auto gets 2 unreleated matches.
Where is this fantom option. Again, I will say that the tree view under 
Quick settings bounces all over the place. It doesn't display normally.
Maybe this option isn't available for Windows Live Mail. Way to go Freedom 
Scientific. Sorrty for the rant.


-Original Message-
From: Steve
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Check under settings for your mail client with insert-v and make sure 
refresh is set to auto.  That seems to have solved the automatic messages 
not being read from the top issue.


- Original Message -
From: "Janie Degenshein" <jdege...@comcast.net>
To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email



I use wlm and
control u gets you to unread messages


-Original Message- 
From: patti

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I didn't knoe about ctrl D, thanks.
Is there a key command when you are in your  inbox, and you have a lot of
emails in there to get to your unread emails?
I keep a lot of emails that I have already read.
Patti

I do the same here in outlook 2010, and if I wish to keep a message, a
simple press of the escape key puts me back where I need to be to go
through
the rest of my inbox.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

John, which is nice if you delete each one.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "John R. Vaughn" <jrvaugh...@comcast.net>

To: <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 07:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in
their
entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be
done
in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how
will
the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the
read
all command, TC,
Jorge

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws <jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com>
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time 

Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

[Tom Fairhurst]

I have looked under Quick Settings with Inset+V, and no such setting exists. 
Searching for
Resh gets no0 results, and searching for Auto gets 2 unreleated matches. 
Where is this fantom option. Again, I will say that the tree view under 
Quick settings bounces all over the place. It doesn't display normally. 
Maybe this option isn't available for Windows Live Mail. Way to go Freedom 
Scientific. Sorrty for the rant.


-Original Message- 
From: Steve

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 2:16 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Check under settings for your mail client with insert-v and make sure
refresh is set to auto.  That seems to have solved the automatic messages
not being read from the top issue.

- Original Message - 
From: "Janie Degenshein" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:41 PM
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email



I use wlm and
control u gets you to unread messages


-Original Message- 
From: patti

Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 12:35 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I didn't knoe about ctrl D, thanks.
Is there a key command when you are in your  inbox, and you have a lot of
emails in there to get to your unread emails?
I keep a lot of emails that I have already read.
Patti

I do the same here in outlook 2010, and if I wish to keep a message, a
simple press of the escape key puts me back where I need to be to go 
through

the rest of my inbox.

John Fitzgerald
Muse, Oklahoma
Article V Convention of States
http://www.cosaction.com/?recruiter_id=1022484


-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Dave ...
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 9:45 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

John, which is nice if you delete each one.

Dave
Oregonian, woodworker, Engineer, Musician, and Pioneer


- Original Message - 
From: "John R. Vaughn" 

To: 
Sent: Saturday, June 03, 2017 07:33
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email


When reading my messages in outlook 2010, I open the first message and it
reads the E-mail.  To close this message and delete the message, I do
control key plus letter D to delete the message and open the next E mail
which is read from top to bottom without headers.
Again, you do the control delete while in an open message.
John

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Jim Fettgather
Sent: Saturday, June 3, 2017 12:44 AM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

This is what I need to do, hit control home and then Jaws down arrow.
Why is this, this is not acceptable.
This behavior does not happen in Windows 10 mail, messages are read in 
their

entirety when opening an  email.
Work arouns like control home and then doing a say all such as must be 
done

in outlook are a productivity killer and should not be tolerated.



-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Kurt Miller
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 11:08 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Patty,
When it opens, use control home to go to the top of the email and then use
say all.

-Original Message-
From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 2, 2017 10:34 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

I'm sorry, but I don't understand.
If when I open up an email, and it starts reading from the middle, how 
will

the read all key help? smiles Patti

Patti,
Did you receive my respond, I guess you couldn't read it, how about the 
read

all command, TC,
Jorge

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of patti
Sent: Friday, June 02, 2017 8:03 PM
To: jaws 
Subject: [JAWS-Users] opening up an email

Hey Gang,

I haven't heard anything, so I thought I would try it again, smiles.

Every time I open up an email it starts reading in the middle, or 
sometimes

at the bottom.

How do I get it to read at the top?

I'm using windows10, jaws18, MS2010, and outlook, on a 32 bit computer.

Thanks Patti



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Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

[Tom Fairhurst]

I asked about this earlier and received no response. I couldn't read 
anything on the home screen with Window-Eyes. With JAWS, all I can read is a 
number of graphics labeled with numbers. Labeling these would either require 
sighted assistance or a lot of trial and error. I too would like serious 
help reading Sophos with JAWS. By the way, NVDA did a little better, but it 
was not perfect.


-Original Message- 
From: Jared Rimer

Sent: Thursday, June 01, 2017 9:02 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

OK,

I'm consoled with a couple of people, and Sophos is the vote recommended
to me.  Is there anything i need to keep in mind on using this with Jaws?

On 5/31/2017 21:53, Thomas N. Chan wrote:

The url is http://www.pandasecurity.com/
I used to use the paid version a while ago , its simple and accessible.
That's at least 10 years or so ago.
But their free one should be alright as I believe its cloud driven.
But I highly recommend sophos.
https://home.sophos.com/?cmp=7013001xLlGAAU_source=adwords_mediu
m=cpc_campaign=GB-EN-SMS-Brand-Search_content=search_term=sophos
they also have a free version. The business and enterprise protection from
them are just state of the art. I set them up in company network like the
UTM, endpoint. I just only found out that they have the free version for
home, so you should try them.


regards
Thomas N. Chan

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Behalf Of Jared Rimer
Sent: Thursday, 1 June 2017 9:37 AM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

I think I've heard of the software, but not too familiar with it.  Do
you have a link?

On 5/31/2017 14:18, Aran_A wrote:


Hello,

I am using Panda, the free version of Panda.

In some cases to improve the accessibility, I use the OCR option of JAWS
and then I can read the screen, and while I am using the OCR, I can use
the tab to go from option to option.

I wish you success.

Aran

-Original Message- From: Jared Rimer
Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 10:38 PM
To: JAWS-Users-List@jaws-users.com
Subject: [JAWS-Users] antivirus question

So, I saw a post on twitter, and it is talking about antivirus.  Part of
the page says:

The easiest way to ensure that your antivirus software is working is to
use the EICAR test file.

The EICAR test file is a virus simulator developed by the European
Institute for Computer Antivirus Research and
Computer Antivirus Research Organization.

To create an EICAR test file, copy and paste the following line into a
blank file using a text editor such as Notepad:"

The URL to the full post is at:


https://webtecsrilanka.com/2017/02/18/how-to-tell-if-your-antivirus-is-worki
ng/?utm_source=dlvr.it_medium=twitter


for your review.  When i went to send the original message intending to
keep things in tact, the outbound picked it up as harmful which means it
worked, but MSE never picked it up nor what I've written below.  A bit
concerning.



I did this, and found that microsoft security essentials leaves it.

I got concerned when I knowingly saved a file as I wanted to see if it
would pick up the file.   I left it for awhile and saved it on one of my
drives.  I submitted it using I believe it was av test or a site that I
found that allowed me to see what antivirus picked this particular file
I had up.  MSE never picked it up.  Now that I'm a Jaws user, what
antivirus besides MSE would work with Jaws?

I've got Windows 7, 64 bit.  I don't think MSE is doing the trick
anymore if a file can go undetected for that long, and it never got
flagged for review.  It was a zip, with an executable in it, which i
knew was dangerous, but I save them at times to see if the thing is
working and picks them up.





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Re: [JAWS-Users] Accessible password manager

[Tom Fairhurst]

I have been using Keepass with Window-Eyes. I havbe tried it with JAWS, and 
it seems to work the same way. I have been able to do what I need to do.


-Original Message- 
From: Gene Warner

Sent: Monday, May 29, 2017 5:19 PM
To: JAWS Users
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Accessible password manager

Hi All!

Back in 2003, long before I lost my vision, I discovered RoboForm and
really liked it. One of the things RoboForm could do was to
automatically fill out internet forms with all your information
including things like name, address, credit card info, bank account
info, etc. and so on. But it's primary function was to remember all the
user IDs and passwords you use for various web sites, and could fill in
those login forms for you. It also had a password generator for
generating strong random passwords.

But now I find the user interface rather cluttered and with few, if any,
shortcut keys to make navigating through the program easier. Plus some
parts of the program are simply inaccessible, I can, for example,
generate a password, but can't change the criteria for generating the
password.

So, can anyone recomend a fully accessible password manager? I don't
really need it to fill all my information into forms, but do want the
ability to remember login information and to automatically fill out
login forms when requested. Although not absolutely necessary, a
password generating function would be nice to have.

Oh, and it needs to work with Internet Explorer 11.

Thanks!

Later...

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[JAWS-Users] Sophos

[Tom Fairhurst]

Is anyone using Sohos Antivirus with JAWS? If so, how do yoiu get the home 
screen to read? The grahics only appear to be numbered. Window-Eyes won’t read 
anything, and NVDA reads some items. Thanks.
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[JAWS-Users] Interruptibility

[Tom Fairhurst]

I know that pressing the Control key interrupts speech in JAWS 18. Can speech 
be interrupted with any other keys?
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[JAWS-Users] Selecting E-mail Recipients in Windows Live Mail

[Tom Fairhurst]

I won’t write about this any more because I’m as tired of writing about it as 
you are of hearing about it. I have the latest version of Window Eyes, the 
latest version of NVDA, and the latest version of JAWS on my Windows 7 64-bit 
Pro computer. Selecting E-mail recipients by typing in the To field works 
perfectly for me in Window-Eyes.I start hearing suggestions, and arrowing 
through the list, they are spoken and can be selected. In JAWS, nothing is 
spoken, and no suggestions appear. The Read Current Line and arrow keys only 
read my typed text. When I tab out and back into the field, only my typed text 
appears. In NVDA, likewise, when I start typing in the To field, I can only 
read my typed text. If I arrow down or up, I still  only hear my typed text. 
However, if I tab out and then back into the field, I hear the first suggestion 
spoken. If I were to type some letters and arrow down twice and then tab out 
and back, I would hear the third suggestion in the To field. These results 
would be expected. Thus, the  suggestion information is populating properly, 
but NVDA won’t read it. Strange indeed. Thanks so much for everyone’s help.
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[JAWS-Users] Voice Volume

[Tom Fairhurst]

Is it possible to change the voice volume in JAWS 18? When navigating with the 
JAWS cursor, I see the volume setting but can’t tab to it.
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Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[Tom Fairhurst]

   Thanks for your help. I am using Windows Live Mail. I'll keep looking. I 
don't find the

Address List Autocomplete setting under Quick Settings using Insert+V.
Unfortunately, this leads me to another issue. The treeview doesn't always
behave reliably, even when the screen is maximized. When arrowing up and
down, some items are skipped. Even when I arrow right and expand the tree
completely, all items are not read. I googled this, and the suggestion was 
made to log out and log back into the E-mail account. My problem is that the 
address auto complete feature works for me in Window-Eyes but not JAWS. 
Thanks again for your help.


-Original Message- 
From: Adrian Spratt

Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 12:58 PM
To: jaws-users-list@jaws-users.com
Subject: Re: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

There's a setting in quick settings (JAWS key+v) that might help. Make sure
"Address list autocomplete announcement" is checked. If that doesn't fix it,
look down for other possibilities in quick settings. Otherwise, your answer
is in Outlook itself, and there Google will help.

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From: JAWS-Users-List [mailto:jaws-users-list-boun...@jaws-users.com] On
Behalf Of Tom Fairhurst
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2017 11:13 AM
To: List Jaws
Subject: [JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit
Pro, when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no
longer given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use
the Select Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but
why doesn’t the feature work properly.
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[JAWS-Users] Text Selection

[Tom Fairhurst]

Is there a comparable hot key for extended text selection as in other screen 
readers. That is, so one can press Read To End or the PGDN and PGDN to rapidly 
select larger blocks of text, especially in HTML environments?
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[JAWS-Users] Windows Live Mail Selecting Contcts

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am a new JAWS user. Using Window-Eyes, when I start typing in the “to” field, 
the field is populated with a list of ossible contacts from which to choose. In 
JAWS 18, this doesn’t work. I must use the Select Contacts button to do this. 
Is this expected behavior for JAWS, or is something wrong?
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[JAWS-Users] Selecting Contacts

[Tom Fairhurst]

I am a new JAWS user. Since I started using JAWS 18 with Windows 7 64-Bit Pro, 
when I begin typing in the “to” field to search for a contact, I am no longer 
given a list of possible contacts from which to choose. I must use the Select 
Contacts button to do this. It is only a minor irritation, but why doesn’t the 
feature work properly.
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