Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-03-02 Thread timothy driscoll
On 2005-03-01 (13:38) William Reusch wrote: Hi Tim, You raise some interesting points, and I will try to obtain the information pertaining to them. The data I cited came from a brief (ca. 2 week period) in early January. Repeat hits were not factored out. MSIE was far and away the most used

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-03-01 Thread William Reusch
Hi Tim, You raise some interesting points, and I will try to obtain the information pertaining to them. The data I cited came from a brief (ca. 2 week period) in early January. Repeat hits were not factored out. MSIE was far and away the most used browser, followed by Firefox and Netscape.

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread timothy driscoll
On 2005-02-28 (16:34) Tamas E. Gunda wrote: After the creation of many Chime pages in the past I've made several Jmol test pages - I intend to write some new tutorial pages in organic chemistry and before doing so I wanted to test Jmol. An important point in my eyes is that the use of the pages

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread Bob Hanson
Tamas E. Gunda wrote: To summarize, I am in dilemma - which is the better solution? To make everything in double? The presence of Chime is easy to test, and if ok, lets use it. However, the check of the Jmol applet is not so straightforward, as its functionality heavily depends upon the actual

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread Bob Hanson
timothy driscoll wrote: so I would argue against putting a visible, active Jmol on your home page, for example , until you can run some basic compatibility checks. I worry about this on the new Jmol test page. Is that page set up to detect the absense of capability to run the applet? Or does it

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread Frieda S. Reichsman
On Feb 28, 2005, at 11:56 AM, Bob Hanson wrote: HOWEVER, it would be nice -- I'll bet Henry Rzepa knows how to do this -- if when Java is not there they at least get a GIF or something that points them to how to proceed. Would that be object code? For example, jmol.js could be modified to

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread timothy driscoll
On 2005-02-28 (10:56) Bob Hanson wrote: Tamas E. Gunda wrote: To summarize, I am in dilemma - which is the better solution? To make everything in double? The presence of Chime is easy to test, and if ok, lets use it. However, the check of the Jmol applet is not so straightforward, as its

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread timothy driscoll
On 2005-02-28 (11:01) Bob Hanson wrote: timothy driscoll wrote: so I would argue against putting a visible, active Jmol on your home page, for example , until you can run some basic compatibility checks. I worry about this on the new Jmol test page. Is that page set up to detect the

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread Eric Martz
Hi, Tamas, I agree with your assessment that there is a dilemma right now (thanks largely to Microsoft having removed java from Windows). However, there is no question in my mind that jmol is the answer for the future, because it is under active development, has open source, and already works

Re: [Jmol-users] Chime or Jmol, this is the question

2005-02-28 Thread Vladimir Potapov
Eric Martz wrote: ... I agree with your assessment that there is a dilemma right now (thanks largely to Microsoft having removed java from Windows). ... Sun Microsystems (which controls Java) sued Microsoft to force the software giant to conform to Sun's Java standard. That Microsoft would then