[lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project. Anybody, have

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really complains when using the RPM and will not compile a simple project.

[lazarus] Re: Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
On Tue, 16 May 2006 20:41:35 +0330, ik [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: בTuesday 16 May 2006 19:08, כתבת: On Tue, 16 May 2006 09:34:05 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take TEdit for example, which has been extended to contain properties like the Font property. Ok, you were making

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Lv
So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? I am asked a lot what software I use and I explicitly promote Lazarus/FPC. This thread make me believe that I will segfault

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Florian Klaempfl
Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Michael Van Canneyt
On Wed, 17 May 2006, Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? I am asked a lot what software I use and I explicitly promote Lazarus/FPC. This thread

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 17/05/06, Florian Klaempfl [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering of bidirectional text depends upon the directional properties of the

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Bisma Jayadi
I agree. It is a stupid idea to change the name. There is nothing wrong with the name Lazarus. All it needs is a couple more bug fixes and a lot of PR work from it's users! 1000% agree! Instead of waisting your energy and time following and writing to this thread, spend your time

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 13:55:31 +0300 Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering

Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

2006-05-17 Thread Bogusław Brandys
roozbeh gholizadeh wrote: On Wed, 10 May 2006 17:33:02 +0330, Jonas A. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: let me ask you a few questions: are you still using 1.44 floppies? are you sending compiled execs 20 times a day via 56k modem connection? no? then why 1 or 2 mb bigger is so bad for you? Well

[lazarus] fpcUnit patch

2006-05-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
My previous post came back with a message saying that the .zip extention is a illegal attachment and was blocked (how stupid is that!). Here is the message again, with the attachment renamed. Please change it to .zip when saving it to disk. Graeme. --- Hi, Please find

[lazarus] Focus problem - EncloseSelectionDialog

2006-05-17 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
I send a patch for EncloseSelectionDialog couple days ago to fixe a taborder / focus problem. This almost worked. But I see that the focus is not yet active on the radiogroup. I tried to fixe that again with an explicit form event but this is worst. procedure

Re: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch

2006-05-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
Graeme Geldenhuys schreef: My previous post came back with a message saying that the .zip extention is a illegal attachment and was blocked (how stupid is that!). Here is the message again, with the attachment renamed. Please change it to .zip when saving it to disk. Who send that message,

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread Al Boldi
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Al Boldi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? - When working with bidirectional text, the characters are still interpreted in logical order--only the display is affected. The display ordering of

Re: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch

2006-05-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
Hi, I double checked, this isn't my ISP. It seems to be some IT company in South Africa. I guess it must be someone that is part of the mailing list and their email provider doesn't like attachments. Still an idiotic way of trying to prevent viruses, etc.. Thanks for letting me know. In future

RE: [lazarus] fpcUnit patch

2006-05-17 Thread William Cairns
Looking at the rejecting address it could have been my address that caused the problem... Whenever a new virus comes out our mail server is set to reject zip files. -Original Message- From: Graeme Geldenhuys [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 17 May 2006 14:07 PM To: lazarus@miraclec.com

Re: [lazarus] Compiling laz from svn + statistically linked components

2006-05-17 Thread Daniel Dugan
In Windows, I was maintaining fpc 20x and fpc211 at various times. My solution was to rename the \pp directory to \pp20x or \pp211 and set the path variableto the location of the gnu libraries and fpc executables at the command prompt before launchinga make from the source directory. Since make

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Andreas Berger
Florian Klaempfl wrote: Lv wrote: So if you guys want to change the name, where does it leave users like me presenting papers at conferences and citing Lazarus in technical papers as my software of choice? Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
Nice to hear that not all users believe into the imo stupid idea to change the name. I don't think either that the board of directors of lazarus Hi. I have start some message threads that finish in flame wars, like foundation one, which wasn't my intention. But I didn't start the message

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
For anybody who still insists to this name changing idea, I believe you're still allowed to build a new project based on Lazarus source codes and I DIDN'T START THE TOPIC, but even that I think it's a good idea to change the name (in time), I would like to wait to see Lazarus more mature, and

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+ and GDK but it still compiled. Now with the SUSE 10.1 it really

Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
We could use the principle of interfaces yes, but I don't think it Wait, Delphi Help system is supported by interfaces, but Lazarus still doesn't, by the moment, right ? - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]

Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:25:13 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We could use the principle of interfaces yes, but I don't think it Wait, Delphi Help system is supported by interfaces, but Lazarus still doesn't, by the moment, right ? Right. At the moment you have to create a descendant

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... Just my 2 cents. - Marco Aurelio Ramirez Carrillo lazarus dot mramirez at star-dev dot com [dot mx]

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
UTF-16 is multibyte. There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a complete 2 byte unicode encoding. I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses 2 bytes for each character, but DOESN'T support all languages. If I'm right, we can use

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread lazarus . mramirez
AFAIK you can't choose the Bidi of a font. Bidi is defined by the characters. An 'a' is always left-to-right, while an arabic character is always RTL, no matter what the font is called or setup. Can you define, what a BIDI property should do? I remember a post of a user that wanted to write

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 09:52:46 -0500 (CDT) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTF-16 is multibyte. There are more unicode characters than 2 byte numbers, so you won't find a complete 2 byte unicode encoding. I read somewhere that there was a previous Unicode format that ALWAYS uses 2 bytes for

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always complained about GTK+

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't compile a simple project. SUSE has always

Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:32:40 +0200 Graeme Geldenhuys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/06, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: examples. But I'm not sure, how many types of help systems will be written. According to the threads in the list it seems only a few (chm and open document.

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 18:41:46 +0200 Vincent Snijders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are

Re: [lazarus] Who needs Unicode controls.

2006-05-17 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
I'm very much ignorant about widestrings, utf-16, and internationnal support in Lazarus. I mean, I have just no clue of what kind of work it requires. What needs to be changed in the lcl source code. If someone could point me to an example and the implications of the changes, I'll see if I'm

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Dale Welch
Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) lazarus is as good a name as most. And I thought it was named for lazarus long. who is known to have written in his notebooks: Always listen to experts.

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Vincent Snijders
johnf wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the development lib's are installed. Using the latest snapshot I can't

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31, Vincent Snijders wrote: johnf schreef: Hi, All the

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread L505
one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some sort of database, and a desktop

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tuesday 16 May 2006 23:31,

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls some

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:13 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 08:25:43 -0700

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread Alexandre Leclerc
2006/5/17, Alexandre Leclerc [EMAIL PROTECTED]: 2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:56, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:49:13 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 10:32, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 10:15:14 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 09:29,

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Den Jean
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/$fpcversion/units/$fpctarget

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:20, Den Jean wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/* -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/rtl instead of

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget/*

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to a fpc.cfg containing -Fu/usr/lib/fpc/2.0.0/units/$fpctarget

Re: [lazarus] Help Framework proposal

2006-05-17 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/17/06, Mattias Gaertner [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's on my ToDo list to make a few things easier to override and write some examples. But I'm not sure, how many types of help systems will be written. According to the threads in the list it seems only a few (chm and open document. html and

Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

2006-05-17 Thread Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho
On 5/17/06, Bogusław Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe create KOL based widgetset for Lazarus Won't solve anything. LCL is too big. There are too many features, and thus pascal units to be linked to get lcl working, so any LCL widgetset will generate big executables. What would help is

Re: [lazarus] New Qt patch

2006-05-17 Thread Den Jean
On Tuesday 09 May 2006 22:25, Den Jean wrote: I will look into it. Done in V1.15 Enums with only assigned (parsable) values are sorted (sorted on the value) The enums that have been sorted have a (2s) in the comments like : ... QEventType = ( //QEvent::Type (2s) ...

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:55:48 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08, johnf wrote: What is next? I had the same error due to

Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 16:04:04 -0300 Felipe Monteiro de Carvalho [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/17/06, Bogus__aw Brandys [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Maybe create KOL based widgetset for Lazarus Won't solve anything. LCL is too big. There are too many features, and thus pascal units to be linked

Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

2006-05-17 Thread Tony Maro
Mattias Gaertner wrote: Won't help. For example at the moment the gtk callbacks use case statements with all kind of controls. This must be improved. LCL adds some things, like being able to load a form from XML. This requires a parser, and parsers are big, so this adds size to

Re: [lazarus] Re: Lazarus File bigger then Delphi File?

2006-05-17 Thread L505
What would help is really powerful smartlinking (being able to rip unused methods inside a unit for example). Theres no such thing, that is what smartlinking is - KOL is designed around this but many people hate KOL because it uses old Objects and requires a bit of thinking - and most people

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread Graeme Geldenhuys
On 5/17/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I currently use Google to search for freepascal documentation on the RTL instead of using my local copy of my help documents, is because Google itself is my database that powers the search of the freepascal documentation. Some of you just

Re: [lazarus] New SUSE 10.1 can't link gdk

2006-05-17 Thread johnf
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 12:53, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 11:55:48 -0700 johnf [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 11:31, Mattias Gaertner wrote: On Wed, 17 May 2006 20:20:56 +0200 Den Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wednesday 17 May 2006 20:08,

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread L505
On 5/17/06, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The reason I currently use Google to search for freepascal documentation on the RTL instead of using my local copy of my help documents, is because Google itself is my database that powers the search of the freepascal documentation. Some of

[lazarus] exec-shield problems

2006-05-17 Thread Colin Western
I am encountering problems on Fedora Core 5, in that lazarus crashes on displaying some design time forms. The problem seems to be in the JITForms.pp the code arounf line 920: CodeTemplate:=MethodAddress('DoNothing'); CodeSize:=100; // !!! what is the real codesize of DoNothing? !!!

Re: [lazarus] exec-shield problems

2006-05-17 Thread Mattias Gaertner
On Wed, 17 May 2006 22:39:05 +0100 Colin Western [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am encountering problems on Fedora Core 5, in that lazarus crashes on displaying some design time forms. The problem seems to be in the JITForms.pp the code arounf line 920:

Re: [lazarus] Lazarus Help System Requirements

2006-05-17 Thread L505
2006/5/17, L505 [EMAIL PROTECTED]: one. For the moment I'm sticking on my SQLite+html idea. The html format Ça va. What about a SQLLite database that stores the help info, and a php script that calls that database... No PHP required really. A CGI program written in Pascal that calls

[lazarus] wince patch

2006-05-17 Thread roozbeh gholizadeh
This patch: * adds arrow unit and tarrow support * fixes timage,now images being displayed * add spinedit unit * add checklist unit for tchecklist box * fixed some missed pchar to pwidechar conversions * updated for new rtl * new winapiemu unit for emulating missing windows apis -- Using Opera's

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread m2
Dale Welch a écrit : Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) Pascal comes from the name of the French mathematician, physician and philosopher, Blaise Pascal (1623-1662) who built a famous

[lazarus] no widestring support in FreeBSD4

2006-05-17 Thread Marc Santhoff
Hi, since I'm sort of a lazy updater I didn't notice earlier: Lazarus doesn't compile on FreeBSD 4 any more, since some newer functions are missing. Linking ../lazarus /home/marc/fpc-2.0.2/lib/fpc/2.0.2/units/i386-freebsd/rtl/cwstring.o: In function

Re: [lazarus] Request for PR noise !

2006-05-17 Thread Dale Welch
On Wednesday 17 May 2006 18:24, m2 wrote: Dale Welch a écrit : Perhaps we better rename Pascal... after all... what does Pascal mean? It Means Passover. It's a Jewish (Christian - Easter) holiday.:-) Pascal comes from the name of the French mathematician, physician and