Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
At least Millenium tries. I still have not got my answer from MS about changes in Windows 95. (I know). Rich in LA CA --- On Sun, 3/8/09, Jackie King jkin...@gmail.com wrote: From: Jackie King jkin...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy To:

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread JLB
I don't use the Source Writer myself. It's just another thing to get in sync with. Right now, it's easier not to. If there's any kind of notation at all on the tree that you found, I'd put that in. I have some similar 'unknowns' and I put them under a general category. For instance,

Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum

2009-03-09 Thread Frances
Thank you Connie, your second suggestion worked. regards Frances - Original Message - From: Connie Sheets clshee...@yahoo.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:04 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail - addendum Actually,

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Since I use Ancestry.com as the repository of the record creator, and in the Source fields use both names, I would list it as an authorless document, the same way I treat Newspaper clippings with no date or paper name. But of the about 20 I had at one time, I mhave located 18 of them. Rich in

Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

2009-03-09 Thread Jackie King
Actually one of the reasons I chose to move to Legacy when it became obvious that the program I had formerly used was no longer going to be supported by the company that bought it, was the responsiveness I did see from Legacy. Very few of the other programs that are out there actually have

Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail

2009-03-09 Thread Frances
Thanks Richard...I think Connie's suggestion worked fine. Cheers Frances - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIES fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Create a list by source detail Is this

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Dede Holden
Vicki, I have used these Family Trees from Ancestry. I use the Family Group Sheet template in Source Writer. If the author's name is given, I will use it. If not, I use the Ancestry user name that is posted with the Family Tree. I choose to use online images since that is where they are, even

Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-09 Thread Dede Holden
Thanks to all - there are some good ideas here. But now it's Monday and back to work, so I'll have to try this when I can squeeze in time during the week. Judy, I like your idea. I'll try it to see what happens. Jane, I thought of tagging, as you suggested, I was just wondering if there was an

Re: [LegacyUG] Print Family Group Record

2009-03-09 Thread Ann Parsons
Hello Ron, Yes, that is where on the Family Group Reports I am having a problem. I totally agree that the abbreviation should be there for the parents. My problem is - it shows Cir 1815 yet I have entered Abt 1815. I looked at others in my database that have parents with About birth year. The

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries, Newspapers, File ID

2009-03-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
David E. Damouth wrote I see no reason to save *any* paper documents, unless you are the custodian of a one-of-a-kind public archive. I have all sorts of reasons for keeping paper documents and have masses of them, but I don't think it's relevant to the use of Legacy and to therefore to this

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Mary Young
On 3/9/09, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found what Ancestry.com calls a Family Tree on their website. It isn't really a family tree but a short list of related people. How would I source this? No author is listed, nor contact information, it is simply a short list of related

RE: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread ma...@mcmahon
I would also use a Surety of 0 until I could prove the information myself from other sources. Marty McMahon ma...@mcmahon.com -Original Message- From: k...@legacyfamilytree.com [mailto:k...@legacyfamilytree.com] On Behalf Of Dede Holden Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:28 AM To:

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Jenny M Benson
v pedersen wrote I found what Ancestry.com calls a Family Tree on their website.  It isn't really a family tree but a short list of related people.  It sounds as though you have found a Private Member's Tree rather than a Public one. For Public Members Trees you should be able to see a tree

[LegacyUG] Basic versus Sourcewriter Source Entry

2009-03-09 Thread Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara
I have been a user of the Basic version of source entry and had built my own templates over time I'm comfortable using. Yesteday I thought I'd play around some with the Sourcewriter entry process on my 'Test' database. Today I'm working on my 'Main' database and went to add a new source. The

Re: [LegacyUG] Basic versus Sourcewriter Source Entry

2009-03-09 Thread Gene Young
Olds-Wills-Anderson-Simonson Hodges-Harris-Liikala-Jukkara wrote: I have been a user of the Basic version of source entry and had built my own templates over time I'm comfortable using. Yesteday I thought I'd play around some with the Sourcewriter entry process on my 'Test' database. Today I'm

Re: [LegacyUG] Impatience with Legacy

2009-03-09 Thread Janis L Gilmore
Connie and Ward, The Subsequent Citation issue is a troubling one. For the most part, I do narratives and reconstruct citations by hand, rather than relying on reports. Even so, there are occasions when I would like to kick out a little booklet for an interested family member. I would like to

Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File

2009-03-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 12:55:09 +, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote: Because your new file was created TODAY, all your Added and Modified dates will change to TODAY'S DATE. There is a way around it ... have the programmers change the code to copy these dates to the new database. Is there any

Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File

2009-03-09 Thread David E. Damouth
The choice of resetting or retaining these dates should be a user option when exporting to a new family file. At 07:03 AM 3/9/2009, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote: There is a way around it ... have the programmers change the code to copy these dates to the new database. Is there any advantage to

Re: [LegacyUG] Subsequent Citation Work Around

2009-03-09 Thread Connie Sheets
Janis wrote: The Subsequent Citation issue is a troubling one. For the most part, I do narratives and reconstruct citations by hand, rather than relying on reports. Even so, there are occasions when I would like to kick out a little booklet for an interested family member... Thanks,

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Connie Sheets
Since far too many Ancestry trees are complete works of fiction, I too would be very hesitant to enter the data into Legacy, however, if for some reason I did do so, I would use the Internet Database template. Connie Legacy User Group guidelines:

Re: [LegacyUG] Age at time of event and sentence definitions

2009-03-09 Thread Randolph Clark
Not sure I understand. If the year is entered then the age is in the Chronology. Do you want to enter (example) 18 for the age at time of marriage? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Christine Pearce christ...@great-chishill.demon.co.uk wrote: Perhaps I'm mistaken, but it appears there isn't

Re: [LegacyUG] Age at time of event and sentence definitions

2009-03-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:48:25 -, Christine Pearce christ...@great-chishill.demon.co.uk wrote: I'm really keen to have age in events and, since Legacy is an Access table/dB, wonder if I could create a new Select Query in the database I'd add a new column with (for example)

Re: [LegacyUG] Age at time of event and sentence definitions

2009-03-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
Thinking about it some more... If you aren't using the Description field, you could probably write a custom function (in VB) that you could call to populate tblER.Description with the age at the time of the event. All this would be done in MS Access. Then you could use [Desc] in your event

[LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Barbara Ford
I have never been able to have a clear understanding as to this question: Is it possible to do something OTHER than saving, closing, ETC., several times, to add the same source to each aspect of a person. That's not clear, sorry. What I mean is this: When putting in information about a person,

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Leon Chapman
Barbara: Go to Legacy, Help, and search for Source, Clipboard. This has all the information you should need. Chap On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 10:27 AM, Barbara Ford pastors...@gmail.com wrote: I have never been able to have a clear understanding as to this question: Is it possible to do

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

2009-03-09 Thread Leon Chapman
Ed: After looking at the site, new.familysearch.org, you cannot use their site unless you are a member of the church and have a membership record number. So, I would guess, for the majority of Legacy users, the integration / tie to the NewFamilySearch.org is of no interest - we cannot access it

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Gene Young
Barbara Ford wrote: I have never been able to have a clear understanding as to this question: Is it possible to do something OTHER than saving, closing, ETC., several times, to add the same source to each aspect of a person. That's not clear, sorry. What I mean is this: When putting in

RE: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread ronald ferguson
Barbara, You are not missing anything because what you are requesting is not available in Legacy. Remember that you are *not* linking the source to a person but to different events eg. a census linked to: name, birth date, residence, place of birth, occupation. All of these are either

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Bert van Kootwijk
Or, after the copy to the clipboard you can use the little button with three bars in it to assign the same source to all events and facts which contain any information with one single click Bert - Original Message - From: Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com To:

RE: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Kirsten Bowman
Oh Barbara, that's so sad! What you're missing is one of Legacy's greatest features: the Source Clipboard. Build your source citation on the Source Clipboard and then it takes just one click on each field where you want to attach it. If you find later that you inadvertently missed a field, you

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Barbara Ford
Okay, that absolutely answers my question, though I still will read up on the Source Clipboard, so that Kirsten won't be sad! ;-) And I can see where Bert's suggestion will work where, as is mostly the case, I want to assign the same source to every field that is completed about that person.

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Barbara Ford
I will read about it as suggested, but your steps seem fairly easy. Problem is, everything works until I get to the F2 part. It doesn't do anything. What am I doing wrong? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 12:42 PM, Gene Young n2...@cfl.rr.com wrote: Barbara Ford wrote: I have never been able to have a

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Barbara Ford
Okay, the Alt-2 seems to work for me instead of F2 (to load the one source citation into one blank field). Make sense? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:33 PM, Barbara Ford pastors...@gmail.com wrote: Okay, that absolutely answers my question, though I still will read up on the Source Clipboard, so that

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread CE WOOD
Click on the minus sign box which is below the triangle box on the left of the Individual Info screen. Carolyn - Original Message - From: Barbara Fordmailto:pastors...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday,

Re: [LegacyUG] Age at time of event and sentence definitions

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
Seems like a reasonable add-in. The age 'at an Event' is found in Chronology reports, but may not carry well. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Christine Pearce christ...@great-chishill.demon.co.uk wrote: From: Christine Pearce christ...@great-chishill.demon.co.uk Subject: [LegacyUG] Age

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread MJMethod
It doesn't sound like you are copying sources to the clipboard - If you are on the Sources screen, highlight the source you want to repeat - in the bottom left, click on the clipboards icon, then click Copy/Overwrite Existing - highlight another event you want to use the same Source - click

Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File

2009-03-09 Thread Dennis M . Kowallek
On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:42:32 +, Mary Young m...@cmy.org.uk wrote: On 3/9/09, Dennis M. Kowallek kowal...@iglou.com wrote: Because your new file was created TODAY, all your Added and Modified dates will change to TODAY'S DATE. There is a way around it ... have the programmers change the

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Barbara Ford
NOW we're cookin'. Thanks to all--this was all excellent help. I'm always glad when I ask a question; I often wish I had asked much earlier, as in this case. Thanks, Barbara On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 2:01 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: Click on the minus sign box which is below the triangle

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
You are accurate (kind of), but LDS is opening access to the link at a 'safe' pace, which means adding more hardware, etc., as available. In the testing phase, non-church members were invited to join in the project, (I declined) but the plan, had an open by regions 'flavor' to it. I watch the

[LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread CE WOOD
I am curious. To where is the family file backed when you backup before a Manual Merge? So far, I get no Error 91 when doing so. Why not? How does it differ from a regular BackUp? Carolyn Legacy User Group guidelines: http://www.LegacyFamilyTree.com/Etiquette.asp Archived

Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
The easiest way to do is, switch 'Customize Display' fifth line to User ID. Create the prefix, using the partial or whole surname, then (I don't remember how I originally moved my RIN into that field), but once you do that, paste the prefix in front of the number. If you pre-tag everyone, then

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
It doesn't - shouldn't. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 3/9/09, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Subject: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging To: LegacyUserGroup LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 1:32 PM I am curious. To where is the

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

2009-03-09 Thread ceaster99
Leon: We were told last summer in a conference at Brigham Young University that ultimately non-members will have access.  Last I heard the New Family Search team was still working on the big stumbling block that has kept Utah and a few other places from being able to use it yet.  That is so

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Gene Young
Barbara Ford wrote: Okay, the Alt-2 seems to work for me instead of F2 (to load the one source citation into one blank field). Make sense? Sorry, You're correct about Alt-2. That's what happens when you try to dash off a quick answer. (;-) -- Gene Y. n2kvs Researching Young, Zies, Harer

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

2009-03-09 Thread Dee Ziegler
Clarification: The LDS Church has announced that newFS will be freely available to everyone after all members have access. newFS is being made available first to members of the LDS Church, in a gradual rollout. All temple districts worldwide have it now except, I believe, most of Utah and

RE: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File

2009-03-09 Thread ronald ferguson
From: kowal...@iglou.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Exporting to a new Family File Date: Mon, 9 Mar 2009 15:13:15 -0400 On Mon, 9 Mar 2009 14:42:32 +, Mary Young wrote: On 3/9/09, Dennis M. Kowallek wrote:

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread CE WOOD
So where do I find the backup done before the merge? It is not to be found with my other backups. Carolyn - Original Message - From: RICHARD SCHULTHIESmailto:fourpa...@verizon.net To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.commailto:LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent:

Re: [LegacyUG] missing sources

2009-03-09 Thread Elizabeth
If you are thinking of customising the user ID, it is made much easier using LTools produced by Dennis Kowallek from this LUG. I used it to prefix a number of people with a particular User ID and it was very efficient. http://zippersoftware.com/ltools/index.htm -- Elizabeth Researching

Re: [LegacyUG] New family search.org

2009-03-09 Thread Ed maurer
Hi to the List: We in the Washington State area have been using New.familysearch for a year. We have been putting names and preparing names in Family search, but the opportunity inagreate Legacy and newfamily search and like wise newfamily search in to your own database which one you use Paf,

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-09 Thread Bruce Jones
I keep all my originals in files by subject (census, death-obituaries, death-gravestones, birth-certificates, etc) and then keep my smaller versions for Legacy in family files. If I want to know what census records I have, I can look in the original (census) file. If I want to know what I have

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Eliz Hanebury
I Don't source ancestry, I put an online family tree under notes with the URL and then I set out to prove or disprove it. Eliz On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:14 AM, v pedersen amigo...@yahoo.com wrote: I found what Ancestry.com calls a Family Tree on their website.  It isn't really a family tree

Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com

2009-03-09 Thread Diane Murach
I agree. A family tree is a set of clues, not a source. Diane - Original Message - From: Eliz Hanebury elizhg...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Monday, March 09, 2009 3:52 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] How do I source a Family Tree found on Ancestry.com I

Re: [LegacyUG] Selecting Source Multiple Times for One Person

2009-03-09 Thread Connie Sheets
To add one source to multiple facts (the basic ones, i.e. name, birthdate, death date, burial), you must first load the source onto the source clipboard. You must also enter the data into each field. Then, look at the left hand side of the edit screen, and you will see 4 blue symbols; choose

Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user

2009-03-09 Thread ceaster99
Ralph, On subject of birth name vs later aka used as primary.  You may be interested in a book called Getting It Right, the Definitive Guide to Recording Family History Accurately.  by Mary H.Slawson, published by Deseret Book Company in 2002.  I believe it is available through Amazon.com, I

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-09 Thread Frances
So how would you use FileID when you appear to have two copies? or have I misunderstood you. Regards Frances - Original Message - From: Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 10:44 AM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

[LegacyUG] Fwd: ProMedia Manager

2009-03-09 Thread Momalot66
From: Momalot66 To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: 3/8/2009 3:51:18 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time Subj: ProMedia Manager Has anyone had experience with the ProMedia Manager mentioned on the Pictures CD? It sounds neat, but I cannot find

RE: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user

2009-03-09 Thread ronald ferguson
Charlotte, Good Heavens!! For once I'm doing something by the book. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask http://www.fergys.co.uk/ View the Grimshaw Family Tree at: http://www.fergys.co.uk/Grimshaw/ For The

Re: [LegacyUG] Questions from a new user

2009-03-09 Thread Bruce Jones
Better be more careful! :) On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 5:38 PM, ronald ferguson ronfe...@msn.com wrote: Charlotte, Good Heavens!! For once I'm doing something by the book. Ron Ferguson _ *New Tutorial* Using the GIMP Mask

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-09 Thread Bruce Jones
I do have two copies, but I only point Legacy to the smaller version. Is that what you are asking? On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 4:48 PM, Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz wrote: So how would you use FileID when you appear to have two copies? or have I misunderstood you. Regards Frances - Original

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
When I run a backup, I NOW look where it is sending itself. I still lose stuff, like photos saved in a different directory. Rich in LA CA Now I just re-do it and see where it goes. --- On Mon, 3/9/09, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: From: CE WOOD wood...@msn.com Subject: Re: [LegacyUG]

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-09 Thread RICHARD SCHULTHIES
How would any DB have identical RINs. Rich in LA CA --- On Mon, 3/9/09, Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz wrote: From: Frances jenkins...@xtra.co.nz Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Date: Monday, March 9, 2009, 4:48 PM So how would you use FileID

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread Vivian White
Carolyn, I don't know where it gets backed up during a merge either. I do know that you can undo they merge by clicking on Edit, then undo merge Viv On Mon, Mar 9, 2009 at 1:32 PM, CE WOOD wood...@msn.com wrote: I am curious.  To where is the family file backed when you backup before a

[LegacyUG] Creating Web Page From Current Search List

2009-03-09 Thread Kris
I have created a search list that is limited to people (1) born before 1930 and (2) with Living marked as NO. I used this list to created my web page, using Selected Records and Set Focus Group. However, the names of people who aren't supposed to be there, and who do *not* appear on the

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread CE WOOD
So HOW do I look where it is sending itself since there is no clue on the Merge Backup screen that tells me. I THINK it is backed up in the Legacy Temp folder, as a ~BM file, but have no idea how to access it. The fact that some sort of backup file can be created without an Error 91 might

Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries

2009-03-09 Thread Frances
Yes thank you Frances - Original Message - From: Bruce Jones juicebo...@gmail.com To: LegacyUserGroup@legacyfamilytree.com Sent: Tuesday, March 10, 2009 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [LegacyUG] Obituaries I do have two copies, but I only point Legacy to the smaller version. Is that what you

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread Don Varner
This does not appear to be a standard backup (zipped) file. Sounds more like an internal backup used for an undo process during the session that you are currently working on. Once Legacy is closed does this file go away? I doubt if you could access this file except through the merge reversal

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread Gene Young
CE WOOD wrote: So HOW do I look where it is sending itself since there is no clue on the Merge Backup screen that tells me. I THINK it is backed up in the Legacy Temp folder, as a ~BM file, but have no idea how to access it. The fact that some sort of backup file can be created without an

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread Brian/Support
Legacy does not make a backup before merging in the way it does when you make a backup. It makes a temporary copy of the family file not a zip backup. That temporary copy is only kept until you stop Legacy. If you decide to undo the merge you can go to Edit Undo merge and Legacy will

[LegacyUG] Sourcing Ancestry family tree

2009-03-09 Thread v pedersen
Thank you to everyone who gave their thoughts on how to source what Ancestry calls a family tree. I hope that I did not give the impression that I was assuming that the tree is factual. I just want a way to record where I found clues as to where a collateral line may have moved to.

Re: [LegacyUG] Saving when merging

2009-03-09 Thread CE WOOD
So what is wrong that the zip backup doesn't work when a copy does? Why is Legacy not able to zip the file? Should those many of us with this problem simply make copies of the file instead? Knowing what other files to copy would help us greatly, which is what you try hard to do.