On 2013-08-08, at 11:53 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote:
It is profoundly encouraging to see that people of such courage and
integrity as the Lavabit staff exist, and are willing to put everything
on the line to stand up against this madness.
+1.
For what it's worth, and even
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
For what it's worth, and even though I think it's pretty unlikely that
Cryptocat will receive such an order,
*snip*
You're right but that should provide little comfort - when they come
after the non-business platform libtech
On 2013-08-09, at 11:31 AM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
For what it's worth, and even though I think it's pretty unlikely that
Cryptocat will receive such an order,
*snip*
You're right but that should
I have been forced to make a difficult decision: to become complicit
in crimes against the American people or walk away from nearly ten
years of hard work by shutting down Lavabit.
Ladar Levison
Thank you Ladar for your statement, your gesture and your excellent
service in the past years.
Le 09 août - 11:48, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit :
On 2013-08-09, at 11:31 AM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
For what it's worth, and even though I think it's pretty unlikely that
Cryptocat will receive such
On 2013-08-09, at 11:59 AM, Julien Rabier tazi...@flexiden.org wrote:
Le 09 août - 11:48, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit :
On 2013-08-09, at 11:31 AM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
For what it's worth, and even
Also, weren't NSLs ruled unconstitutional recently?
NK
I don't remember that, but I do remember hearing the FISC ruled some of the
NSA's activities unconstitutional….in 2011.
http://www.ibtimes.com/fisc-will-not-object-release-2011-court-opinion-confirmed-nsas-illegal-surveillance-1305023
I think Nadim is referring to this:
https://www.eff.org/press/releases/national-security-letters-are-unconstitutional-federal-judge-rules
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 11:34 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
On 2013-08-09, at 11:59 AM, Julien Rabier tazi...@flexiden.org wrote:
Le 09 août
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:26:21AM +0300, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
On 2013-08-08, at 11:53 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote:
It is profoundly encouraging to see that people of such courage and
integrity as the Lavabit staff exist, and are willing to put everything
on the line to
On 2013-08-09, at 1:24 PM, Nick liberationt...@njw.me.uk wrote:
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 11:26:21AM +0300, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
On 2013-08-08, at 11:53 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote:
It is profoundly encouraging to see that people of such courage and
integrity as the Lavabit
On 2013-08-09, at 1:55 PM, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) li...@infosecurity.ch
wrote:
Il 8/9/13 10:59 AM, Julien Rabier ha scritto:
Le 09 août - 11:48, Nadim Kobeissi a écrit :
On 2013-08-09, at 11:31 AM, Ali-Reza Anghaie a...@packetknife.com wrote:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:26 AM, Nadim
On Fri Aug 9 06:55:12 2013, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
This is because with OpenFire + Chrome you can also do end-to-end
encrypted WebRTC Audio/Video call.
Firefox nightlies, as far as I'm aware, also provide WebRTC capability
these days (based on DTLS-SRTP... they voted down at last
Il 8/9/13 3:29 PM, Joseph Lorenzo Hall ha scritto:
On Fri Aug 9 06:55:12 2013, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
This is because with OpenFire + Chrome you can also do end-to-end
encrypted WebRTC Audio/Video call.
Firefox nightlies, as far as I'm aware, also provide WebRTC capability
these
On Fri Aug 9 09:42:49 2013, Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
To be true, i invested 4 weeks of trolling on IETF WebRTC mailing list
sustaining the need to support also SDES in order to provide
interoperability with existing VoIP world from day 1.
::) I think I'm solidly with EKR on this...
Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
If someone want to make this recipie working, i think that the world
would appreciate with an easy to be setup, independently run, audio,
video, file transfer, chat infrastructure accessible with a web
browser .
Welp, there goes my weekend. Dangit, naif! ;-)
On 09.08.2013 13:15, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Yup, Cryptocat has had build assurance for quite some time.
Sorry, not possible to backdoor without people noticing
is still a valid line of defence and has been one for a while.
You should think about splitting Cryptocat software development and
Thankfully Cryptocat can be used with a custom server. They can shut down a
server but they can't prevent new servers being configured.
Hence the importance of decentralized open-source software.
On Aug 9, 2013, at 10:48 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
On 2013-08-09, at 11:31 AM,
On 8/9/13 5:34 AM, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Also, weren't NSLs ruled unconstitutional recently? NK
Yes. However...
NSLs have been ruled unconstitutional several times beginning in 2004
[1] with my case ( Doe v. Ashcroft / Doe v. Gonzalez / Doe v. Mukasey /
Doe v. Holder ) and then again in 2007
Griffin, make it so!!
On Aug 9, 2013 7:31 AM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
If someone want to make this recipie working, i think that the world
would appreciate with an easy to be setup, independently run, audio,
video, file transfer, chat
On 09 August, 2013 - Moritz Bartl wrote:
On 09.08.2013 13:15, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Yup, Cryptocat has had build assurance for quite some time.
Sorry, not possible to backdoor without people noticing
is still a valid line of defence and has been one for a while.
You should think about
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/09/bill-gates-google-project-loon
===
Bill Gates criticises Google's Project Loon initiative
Former Microsoft chief says low-income countries need more than just
internet access
===
Google's Project Loon initiative wants to provide internet
This suggests that we need a firm based perhaps in Iceland to offer
encryption services to have any chance of being secure. The story also
notes that US agencies are allowed to keep any encrypted messages they
intercept indefinitely.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:26 AM, Nadim Kobeissi na...@nadim.cc wrote:
On 2013-08-08, at 11:53 PM, Mike Perry mikepe...@torproject.org wrote:
It is profoundly encouraging to see that people of such courage and
integrity as the Lavabit staff exist, and are willing to put everything
on the line
Moritz Bartl:
On 09.08.2013 13:15, Nadim Kobeissi wrote:
Yup, Cryptocat has had build assurance for quite some time.
Sorry, not possible to backdoor without people noticing
is still a valid line of defence and has been one for a while.
You should think about splitting Cryptocat software
On 08/09/2013 12:25 PM, Kyle Maxwell wrote:
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2013/aug/09/bill-gates-google-project-loon
===
Bill Gates criticises Google's Project Loon initiative
Former Microsoft chief says low-income countries need more than just
internet access
===
On the one
Nadim Kobeissi:
Jacob has a problem. For years, I have been abused in private and in
public by Jacob regarding my work on Cryptocat, in ways that are so
underhanded that if I described them on this list, you would not even
believe me. He does this to *many projects*. You obviously have no
Really? This is what this list is for? I thought we were moderated now to end
this sort of BS thread?
--
Al Billings
http://makehacklearn.org
On Friday, August 9, 2013 at 10:22 AM, adrelanos wrote:
Nadim Kobeissi:
Jacob has a problem. For years, I have been abused in private and in
Those comments by Bill Gates are no more than blows below the belt.
Despicable.
He should complain about spending on erectile dysfunction (and so
many other rich people ailments) research vs. eradication of malaria,
not Internet access, which also is a human right!
Best Regards | Cordiales
Thanks for volunteering to help me test the service ;3
Brian Conley wrote:
Griffin, make it so!!
On Aug 9, 2013 7:31 AM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com
mailto:griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Fabio Pietrosanti (naif) wrote:
If someone want to make this recipie working, i think
On 09.08.2013 18:34, fr...@journalistsecurity.net wrote:
This suggests that we need a firm based perhaps in Iceland to offer
encryption services to have any chance of being secure.
Please, I don't want to read this myth at least on libtech any more.
Repeat after me: Iceland is *not* a data
of course!!! Ready and waiting captain!
On Aug 9, 2013 10:37 AM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com wrote:
Thanks for volunteering to help me test the service ;3
Brian Conley wrote:
Griffin, make it so!!
On Aug 9, 2013 7:31 AM, Griffin Boyce griffinbo...@gmail.com
A few days ago, we sent a call for suggestions on how to improve the
management of the Liberationtech list to prevent further flaming. Thanks
to all those of you who submitted your suggestions.
After reviewing these, we found that they generally called for the same
thing: List subscribers want
I think there would be some value to a system like that. It would address a
lot of real world threats but it will not address large scale government
monitoring systems, which many governments have (US, China, UK, Iran, etc).
Sounds like you should team up with Tim Prepscius with his system
This probably sounds very strange, but *what if* someone ran an email
service that required that all mails be GPG encrypted?
So here's my idea: Barring the honor system, it would require a filter
to look at message content to check for PGP headers. And if said
headers didn't exist, the
On 8/9/2013 1:07 PM, Griffin Boyce wrote:
This probably sounds very strange, but *what if* someone ran an email
service that required that all mails be GPG encrypted?
So here's my idea: Barring the honor system, it would require a filter
to look at message content to check for PGP
Hi,
On 09.08.2013 20:07, Griffin Boyce wrote:
So here's my idea: Barring the honor system, it would require a filter
to look at message content to check for PGP headers. And if said
headers didn't exist, the message doesn't get sent.[1]
I wrote a milter for sendmail/postfix to reject
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
I wrote a milter for sendmail/postfix to reject non-PGP mail that scans
the first lines of incoming mail: https://github.com/moba/pgpmilter
My idea of a mail provider: The MX records of domains contain a list of
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 8:31 PM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
I wrote a milter for sendmail/postfix to reject non-PGP mail that scans
the first lines of incoming mail: https://github.com/moba/pgpmilter
My idea of a mail provider: The MX records of domains contain a list of
Has anyone taken a run at would it take to have a independent, space based
data haven?
-Richard
---
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t: 202-372-6756
t: @RichardGraves
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 1:46 PM, Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
On 09.08.2013 18:34, fr...@journalistsecurity.net wrote:
This
Swords into plowshares, anyone? ;)
http://www.norwich.edu/about/news/2013/080913-wifiDrone.html
SN
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Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google.
Persistent violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
Has anyone taken a run at would it take to have a independent,
space based data haven?
The Constellation project might be a place to start looking.
https://lists.shackspace.de/mailman/listinfo/constellation
http://aerospaceresearch.net/constellation/aboutconstellation.php
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Liberationtech is
Randolph D. wrote:
use bitmail
No.
Moritz Bartl wrote:
I wrote a milter for sendmail/postfix to reject non-PGP mail that scans
the first lines of incoming mail: https://github.com/moba/pgpmilter
Ooooh. Forked.
My idea of a mail provider: The MX records of domains contain a list of
different
If you'd like to help me that would be cool..
My take on this is this: (these are are not all my ideas, can't take
full credit)
We want to get to a state where an e-mail server is easy to set up.
And runs with *non governmental* issued ssl certificates.
Where it provides web-mail (think
In the light of Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down, someone needs to
invent a end to end encrypted email soon
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Liberationtech is a public list whose archives are searchable on Google.
Persistent violations of list guidelines will get you moderated:
On Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 02:07:25PM -0400, Griffin Boyce wrote:
This probably sounds very strange, but *what if* someone ran an email
service that required that all mails be GPG encrypted?
I did long wish for a system that would send every non-GPG message
to the spamfolder.
Richard
---
Name
We have it already. People for some reason don't want to use it. Part
of its usability, part of it is laziness. But it can be done.
On Aug 10, 2013, at 9:32 AM, Percy Alpha percyal...@gmail.com wrote:
In the light of Lavabit, Silent Circle both shut down, someone needs to
invent a end to
ooh, I love this discussion. I'll drop in my quick points, and would love to
hear other perspectives.
2 points:
1) Is there a milter that could be plugged into existing SMTP servers
(sendmail, postfix, ...) that could require OpenPGP encapsulation, and
immediately reject messages back to
OK, so let's say someone needs to invent a USABLE end to end
encrypted email soon.
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Andrew Lewis m...@andrewlew.is wrote:
We have it already. People for some reason don't want to use it. Part
of its usability, part of it is laziness. But it can be done.
On Aug
Tim Prepscius writes:
We want to get to a state where an e-mail server is easy to set up.
And runs with *non governmental* issued ssl certificates.
I think this might reflect a misperception of the threat model around
misissuance of certificates.
If you think governments are likely to use
On 09.08.2013 21:54, Griffin Boyce wrote:
It can definitely be done. At the risk of getting in over my head
cost-wise, this is something I can pay for myself.
If you can, fun. :-) First, this needs a proper design. Then, one needs
to develop the required pieces of software in a way that it is
I'd like to respond to this just a bit.
1. requiring PGP without giving a user centric means of using PGP
doesn't actually solve anything.
It's like telling an adult they have to eat stinky tofu. If they love
stinky tofu then fine, but if they don't, there is no way it's going
to happen.
I
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I've been lurking for awhile and would like to take a moment to
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I'm working on arkOS (https://arkos.io), which some of you may have
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..on Fri, Aug 09, 2013 at 03:36:19PM -0400, Shava Nerad wrote:
Swords into plowshares, anyone? ;)
http://www.norwich.edu/about/news/2013/080913-wifiDrone.html
Several people have done this and IMO the outcome is equally ridiculous. I
prefer my AP to have more than 30 minutes uptime. I also
For those who are not aware, Norwich University is a military academy here
in the United States. This is why I thought the swords into ploughshares
quip was particularly apt, besides it being drones into mesh. It's
students using the toys they sell in the student union.
But sure.
SN
On Fri,
Interesting interview with an active-duty Army captain who claims to be part of
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Kyle Maxwell:
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 2:41 PM, liberationt...@lewman.us wrote:
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 19:46:10 +0200
Moritz Bartl mor...@torservers.net wrote:
Repeat after me: Iceland is *not* a data haven.
[citation needed]
Shouldn't it be the other way around? If somebody claims that a
Why not post messages to usenet alt.anonymous.messages? It can provide
great properties for privacy and anonymity. You don't need any servers
or to invent any server software. Just use the existing infrastructure.
alt.anonymous.messages can be used as a big shared mailbox. And the
client
On Fri, Aug 9, 2013 at 10:13 PM, adrelanos adrela...@riseup.net wrote:
Why not post messages to usenet alt.anonymous.messages? It can provide
great properties for privacy and anonymity. You don't need any servers
or to invent any server software. Just use the existing infrastructure.
I think project LOON serves Googles purpose well.
Whether it's altruistic, I'll wait and see.
Certainly disease and famine are a more important and pressing concern in
Africa. I will happily stand with Bill Melinda re this.
I don't think the two issues are comparable, which is where I think
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