using tape drives in H30

2003-03-25 Thread Janakiraman S , Tidel Park - Chennai
hi list, We run SUSE 7.0 (kernel 2.2.16) in our s/390 H30 multiprise system. We have a 3490 tape drive connected to our machine. We also have a emulated tape drive on the H30 machine. How do i make use of these drives to take backups of the files. thanx. janaks.

Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
http://www.theregister.co.uk/content/54/29927.html -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Thornton
That subject line was a bit of a shock. I thought it was going to say something like Ashcroft vows perpetual Double Secret Imprisonment for Cough Syrup Swillers. Adam

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Daniel P. Martin
Shhh. Do you really want to call attention to yourself that way, in these times? BTW, what were your GPS coordinates again? ;) -dan. On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: That subject line was a bit of a shock. I thought it was going to say something like Ashcroft vows perpetual

WTHOT: Maintenance release of cinnamon roll recipie, was [PENGUIN -FOOD] RECIPE: dessert-rolls-cinnamon (updated)

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
This is a maintenance release of the cinnamon roll recipie distrihuted earlier (this time in source form). It corrects an omission in the ingredient list and adds raisins. Please update your collection. -- db .RH MOD.RECIPES-SOURCE DESSERT-ROLLS-CINNAMON M 19 Mar 03 2003 .RZ CINNAMON ROLLS

Re: using tape drives in H30

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
You need to download and install the 3480/3490 tape drivers (SuSE 7.0 didn't include them), then install the amanda package that is on the SuSE CDs. You need to make the tape drive available to the Linux system, bounce the Linux system to let it detect the tape drive and load the drives, then use

WTHOT: Maintenance release of cinnamon roll recipie, was [PENGUIN -FOOD] RECIPE: dessert-rolls-cinnamon (updated)

2003-03-25 Thread John Campbell
Is this being maintained on the LinuxVM.org site, perhaps, like /present/ under /recipes/? (Actually, some simple Linux recipes for constructing a Linux-390 system for those of us with practice limited to toy machines might be handy too.) (A toy machine being one that one person can lift, albeit

Re: Multiple guests sharing /usr RO... Using RPM

2003-03-25 Thread Jason McMullan
Daniel Jarboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a generally accepted best way to upgrade/install packages with RPM with a shared RO /usr across multiple images? Management is leaning toward all guests having the same software installed, where service A would be running on one image, and

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello again from Gregg C Levine How do you think I felt? It wasn't until I read the article, that I realized exactly what it meant. I've actually met one of those contraptions. A piece of, *, well never mind. But it did start the portable computer generation. Anybody remember the Compaq

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Fargusson.Alan
I have seen a few of the Compaq Portables. They seem to be remarkably well built. Every once in a while one turns up at various schools I visit, and most of them still work. They won't run Windows 95, or NT though. I am not sure if they will run Windows 3.x or not. -Original

Re: Multiple guests sharing /usr RO... Using RPM

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:12:30PM +, Jason McMullan wrote: Daniel Jarboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a generally accepted best way to upgrade/install packages with RPM with a shared RO /usr across multiple images? Tooting my own horn a bit here, Linuxcare's Levanta product

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:23:53AM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: I've actually met one of those contraptions. A piece of, *, well never mind. But it did start the portable computer generation. Anybody remember the Compaq Portable series? Remember? I've got one in a closet here. When Compaq

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Jay Maynard
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:29:34AM -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote: I have seen a few of the Compaq Portables. They seem to be remarkably well built. There was a three-foot drop in the production line. THe machine was powered up and running a test program; if it glitched in any way during or after

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Peter Flass
Fargusson.Alan wrote: I have seen a few of the Compaq Portables. They seem to be remarkably well built. Every once in a while one turns up at various schools I visit, and most of them still work. They won't run Windows 95, or NT though. I am not sure if they will run Windows 3.x or

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
The Compaq Portable was their first machine, before IBM had a portable PC. It was the product that got them started in 1983 or so. It was 8088-based, so it won't run anything but DOS and very early versions of Windows (assuming it had a hard drive installed). The Osborne-1 was a Z-80 (8 bit)

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine And so do I. Except he's parked on the floor near my bookcase. And now back to our regularly scheduled discussion. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED] The Force will be with you...Always.

Re: WTHOT: Maintenance release of cinnamon roll recipie

2003-03-25 Thread Dougie G Lawson
I'm thinking about donating some space on http://194.105.168.44 (aka http://cinnamon-rolls.homelinux.org). I've not set up the virtual server yet. I've got the full Usenet cookbook at http://cinnamon-rolls.homelinux.org/recipe.pdf My plan is to create a seperate PDF for each recipe and maintain

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Scott Courtney
On Tuesday 25 March 2003 11:37 am, Peter Flass wrote: I have seen a few of the Compaq Portables. They seem to be remarkably well built. Every once in a while one turns up at various schools I visit, and most of them still work. They won't run Windows 95, or NT though. I am not sure if

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
No kidding. I used to do Comdex booth setup for a company that did 3rd. party service back in the 80's. The various companies would send us sample equipment to put in our booth. I saw everything from Televideo boxes that were built so cheaply you could just about put a finger through the

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Fargusson.Alan
I think 3.x for x 11 will work on an 8088. If I remember right they dropped the 8088 support with 3.11. -Original Message- From: Jay Maynard [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 8:37 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Bye bye Adam On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Nick Laflamme
Gregg C Levine wrote: I've actually met one of those contraptions. A piece of, *, well never mind. But it did start the portable computer generation. Anybody remember the Compaq Portable series? Did the Osborne predate the Kaypro computers? I still have a Kaypro ][ (upgraded to two DSDD

Re: CP Signal shutdown requirements

2003-03-25 Thread Michael Morgan
On a related note, you might consider using the rexec command from VM to issue a '/sbin/shutdown -h now' to your Linux guests. .thanks Wolfe, Gordon W wrote: We've just upgraded to z/VM 4.3 and would like to begin using the CP SIGNAL SHUTDOWN command to shut down our Linux servers. We are

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:55:36AM -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote: I think 3.x for x 11 will work on an 8088. If I remember right they dropped the 8088 support with 3.11. I think 3.1 dropped Real Mode. And it's not like there's a whole lot that runs under Real Mode on Windows 3.0, either. Of

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
David Boyes, Can I send problems to that address? I thought that was just for people with a support contract. On page 11-50 of the manual DEB390-001-01-FCS it says to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you do not have a support contract. I have already told Evan Macbeth at SNA that on page 4-20 the dasdfmt

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
David Boyes, Can I send problems to that address? I thought that was just for people with a support contract. On page 11-50 of the manual DEB390-001-01-FCS it says to use [EMAIL PROTECTED] if you do not have a support contract. Yes, you can, although without support, it's going to be on a

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Ward, Garry
If memory serves, they were CP/M operating system. Garry E. Ward Senior Software Specialist Maritz Research, Automotive Research Group 419-725-4123 -Original Message- From: Fargusson.Alan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:30 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: WTHOT: Maintenance release of cinnamon roll recipie

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
I'm in progress of setting up CVS to manage the source files, so let's look into a joint effort. Let's discuss on penguin-food and then come up with something cool. This is fun. Open source at it's best (and best tasting). -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message-

SLES8 and ECN- sharing OSA

2003-03-25 Thread Ann Smith
We changed our SLES8 guest to now share the OSA with VM. We previously were using VM PROXY ARP. We now find that we can't get out to certain addresses (not class B- low range or high range), for example we can't get to SDB.SUSE.DE. I searched the Suse database and found info about ECN. But ECN

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
Yes, but not by much. The Osborne (as I said before) had a really awful tiny screen. The Kaypro had a 5 or 6 inch monitor that was at least usable. -Original Message- From: Nick Laflamme [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 12:00 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:09:28PM -0500, Adam Thornton wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 08:55:36AM -0800, Fargusson.Alan wrote: I think 3.x for x 11 will work on an 8088. If I remember right they dropped the 8088 support with 3.11. I think 3.1 dropped Real Mode. And it's not like there's

Re: Multiple guests sharing /usr RO... Using RPM

2003-03-25 Thread Alan Cox
On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 17:32, Adam Thornton wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 03:12:30PM +, Jason McMullan wrote: Daniel Jarboe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there a generally accepted best way to upgrade/install packages with RPM with a shared RO /usr across multiple images?

Re: Multiple guests sharing /usr RO... Using RPM

2003-03-25 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
We looked at the Levanta product in detail. It depends on the zero-latency LAN mechanism provided by hipersockets, and they deal with the SPOF problem by having redundant NFS servers. They also have their own NFS-like filesystem client that's supposed to be more robust than a conventional NFS

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
For those of us without support is it possible to buy the 3.01 release? Stephen Frazier Oklahoma Department of Corrections -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of David Boyes Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 11:20 AM To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED]'; '[EMAIL

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
Sure is. See http://www.sinenomine.net/debian for ordering details and pricing. -- db David Boyes Sine Nomine Associates -Original Message- From: Stephen Frazier [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 1:53 PM To: 'David Boyes'; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE:

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Close. The Compaq Portables, were MS-DOS machines. Native MS-DOS, or OEM for Compaq. And I think Kaypro was an also ran for the whole notion of building a portable machine. They came out, about the same time as the Compaq job. And here's a giggle. For each machine, you

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Adam Thornton
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:25:40PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: And Adam, there is an SSH port for DOS, just search the Source Forge site for it. I think its located at http://sshdos.sf.net Got it. Works fine. Thanks. So now, for DOS, I have SSH/SFTP for interactive access, YAN, which is a

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 01:39:18PM -0600, Eric Bielefeld wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 03/25/03 01:00PM Sure is. See http://www.sinenomine.net/debian for ordering details and pricing. Wow. That sure seems expensive. Even Suse is much cheaper, although I really don't know the details and

webmin question

2003-03-25 Thread Noll, Ralph
installed webmin.. can connect with root i changed root password cannot connect.. it there a config file for webmin??? thanks Ralph

Whither Tuxedo.org?

2003-03-25 Thread John Ford
I didn't grep WTHOT. So, I hit Favorites, and bop to http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/. But... I don't go to tuxedo.org. I end up at some other.org. Tried it many times, got to many different .orgs, but a few of them multiple times. Mostly realted to Linux or Open Source. Weird. Some DNS

nslookup

2003-03-25 Thread Noll, Ralph
what is the linux version of nslookup?? thanks

Re: nslookup

2003-03-25 Thread Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS)
host. -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:19 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [LINUX-390] nslookup what is the linux version of nslookup?? thanks

Re: nslookup

2003-03-25 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
actually Linux has nslookup, you need to install the bind-tools package to get it. - Jason Herne ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) On Tue, 2003-03-25 at 15:20, Hall, Ken (IDS ECCS) wrote: host. -Original Message- From: Noll, Ralph [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 25, 2003 3:19

Re: Whither Tuxedo.org?

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Elliott
I didn't grep WTHOT. So, I hit Favorites, and bop to http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/. But... I don't go to tuxedo.org. Eric's web site went away some time ago. You are now redirected to related sites based on the specified page. The ~esr page now takes you to the http://www.spi-inc.org

Re: Whither Tuxedo.org?

2003-03-25 Thread Jim Elliott
I didn't grep WTHOT. So, I hit Favorites, and bop to http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/. But... I don't go to tuxedo.org. Eric's web site went away some time ago. You are now redirected to related sites based on the specified page. The ~esr page now takes you to the

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
Wow. That sure seems expensive. Even Suse is much cheaper, although I really don't know the details and their quality of service compared to yours. Make sure you're comparing to the 390 versions here. As I mentioned in a private note to Eric, the SLES 8 prices quoted on SuSE's WWW site are

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
(150$? isn't this what RMS used to charge for Emacs? http://www.gnu.org/gnu/byte-interview.html) *grin* Yup. $150 was the price for the full FSF GNU tape, with Emacs and the works, and a printed copy of the Emacs manual. You get all that, and more...8-) -- db

OT: RE: Whither Tuxedo.org?

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
(Though you won't find WTHOT there...as I understand it, it's way the heck OT.) Indeed. The progression in my mind is: OT: -- off topic WOT: -- way off topic WTHOT:- way the heck off topic WWTHOT: way, way the heck off topic HDWGHA:- how did we get here again? Your mind may vary (YMMV)...8-)

Re: webmin question

2003-03-25 Thread paultz
Ralph, Have you tried resetting the password with changepass? ../changepass.pl /etc/webmin root newpassword Paul installed webmin.. can connect with root i changed root password cannot connect.. it there a config file for webmin???

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread David Boyes
For a support contract SNA is more expensive than SUSE. When comparing, price support for a 2, 6 and 10 engine box, and then do your comparison. As your workload increases, there is a significant difference. However, if you just want a set of CDs to try it out, SNA price at $150 is much

CTC Connection Question

2003-03-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
I've been trying to get my network connected to my LINUX Lpar through a CTC connection. I think I have everything defined correctly. I did the IOCDS change last week, and put a couple of definitions in my MVS TCPIP Profile. I hooked up an Escon cable between 2 chpids. When I IPL Linux, I

Re: Cron script redirect causing truncation

2003-03-25 Thread Tzafrir Cohen
On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 04:15:11PM -0500, Jeremy Warren wrote: I have a script which outputs top data periodically to a file using stdout top -c -C -b -d1 -n1 /kb/data/top/topout.$sname.txt What is this command, BTW? not the standard top from procps, right? When I run this by hand, the

Re: CTC Connection Question

2003-03-25 Thread Richard W. Lauck, Cornerstone Systems, Inc.
Hello Eric, I had a similar problem a couple weeks ago.For CTCs make sure that a read channel on one side is paired with a write channel on the Linux side and viceversa. You might have genned something like System A: IODEVICE ADDRESS=(500,2),CUNUMBR=001, x UNIT=CTC,UNITADD=0 System B:

Question: Is there a calculation to determine the amount of an IFL consumed to support a stream on a 100 base-t or GB ethernet.

2003-03-25 Thread Chuck Gray
I may use UDP or IP, I need to calculate Jumbo packets 9K or standard packets. These are video mpeg 2 streams. I am looking for a formula as I may use different processor speeds. assumptions I have enough memory to support this activity; so I am not doing forced paging. Thanks in advance

Re: Cron script redirect causing truncation

2003-03-25 Thread Jeremy Warren
If I understand your question, yes, it's the standard top command that normally you run interactively, the various switches are -c = complete command line instead of just command name. -C = Individual CPU States and Summary CPU info -b = batch mode (So I can dump it to a file) -n1 = Iterations

Re: CTC Connection Question

2003-03-25 Thread Eric Bielefeld
Richard, I tried a few of the things you mentioned. I entered the command: ctc0,0x0D01,0x0D00,32,3,0,0 exactly like that except with around it. That basically gave the same message. I issued the command ifconfig ctc0 down It got the message: ctc0: unknown interface: No

Re: nslookup

2003-03-25 Thread Jeremy Warren
dig provides alot of information too, depending on what you are trying to do.. dig HOSTNAME dig -x IP ADDR |-+-- | | Noll, Ralph | | | [EMAIL PROTECTED]| | | tate.ar.us| | |

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Jay Maynard wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 11:23:53AM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: I've actually met one of those contraptions. A piece of, *, well never mind. But it did start the portable computer generation. Anybody remember the Compaq Portable series?

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Nick Laflamme wrote: Gregg C Levine wrote: I've actually met one of those contraptions. A piece of, *, well never mind. But it did start the portable computer generation. Anybody remember the Compaq Portable series? Did the Osborne predate the Kaypro computers? I

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Nope. Compaq built theirs first. The Deskpro. It was a much better machine then the IBM PC. As for portable designs, it is still anybody's guess, which brand came first. --- Gregg C Levine [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Debian/390 from Sine Nomine Associates

2003-03-25 Thread Stephen Frazier
For a shop my size SUSE support is cheaper. I hadn't noticed that SUSE charges more for a large shop. Maybe we will switch enough to Linux that we will care about that. I am happy to see that the $150 gets you the latest and greatest from SNA. Your previous post implied that, but it is nice to

Re: Bye bye Adam

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Adam Thornton wrote: On Tue, Mar 25, 2003 at 02:25:40PM -0500, Gregg C Levine wrote: And Adam, there is an SSH port for DOS, just search the Source Forge site for it. I think its located at http://sshdos.sf.net Got it. Works fine. Thanks. So now, for DOS, I have

Re: webmin question

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Noll, Ralph wrote: installed webmin.. can connect with root i changed root password cannot connect.. it there a config file for webmin??? There is, I keep forgetting its name. Use the old root password and use webmin to change it. If I _had_ to crack it, I'd use

Re: Whither Tuxedo.org?

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, John Ford wrote: I didn't grep WTHOT. So, I hit Favorites, and bop to http://www.tuxedo.org/~esr/jargon/html/. But... I don't go to tuxedo.org. I end up at some other.org. Tried it many times, got to many different .orgs, but a few of them multiple times. Mostly realted

Re: nslookup

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Noll, Ralph wrote: what is the linux version of nslookup?? nslookup -- Cheers John. Join the Linux Support by Small Businesses list at http://mail.computerdatasafe.com.au/mailman/listinfo/lssb

Re: Cron script redirect causing truncation

2003-03-25 Thread John Summerfield
On Tue, 25 Mar 2003, Jeremy Warren wrote: I have a script which outputs top data periodically to a file using stdout top -c -C -b -d1 -n1 /kb/data/top/topout.$sname.txt When I run this by hand, the data in the topout file has the complete path to the running processes. When I run it via