Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Wed, 29 Sep 2004 16:27:01 +0200, Peter Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to extract/dump the parameters in /boot/zipl/bootmap? Yes, there is, but the question is: why would you want to? The bootmap format is only used

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2004-09-30 Thread Dennis G. Wicks
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Re: Documentation for User Process Faults

2004-09-30 Thread Martin Schwidefsky
Slack may be giving you the fullword at 0x8c, consisting of two-byte ILC and two-byte code. The instruction length code will be the number of bytes in the faulting instruction: 2, 4, or 6. The code will be the 0x0001 part of the examples you gave, Operation Exception for code 0x0001.

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Michael MacIsaac
Yes, there is, but the question is: why would you want to? Because I forgot about: cat /proc/cmdline Yes, this would be better. Thanks. -Mike MacIsaac, IBM [EMAIL PROTECTED] (845) 433-7061 -- For LINUX-390 subscribe /

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Post, Mark K [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Which leads to the question, if two sources of information conflict in some way, which one wins? The first one? The last one? Something else? Can we have some specific examples that can be put into a HOWTO? :) The answer to your first question would

ksoftirqd_CPU0 consumes lot of cpu

2004-09-30 Thread Frank Schwede, LSY
Hello, We have a Test SAP Appl Srv. It should go in prod soon. REAL Hardware at moment is 2 IFL, enough RAM. later 6 IFLs, more RAM. System is up 120day, suddenly cpu-consuming starts 2 days ago. System lags like hell. I found in the internet things like USB, WLAN driver problems and Blaster

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
Michael MacIsaac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there any way to extract/dump the parameters in /boot/zipl/bootmap? Yes, there is, but the question is: why would you want to? It might be useful for configuration management tools like Intelligent Orchestrator or Tivoli Provisioning Mgr to be

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seems a bit risky -- if that's the only way to do this, and it generates an actual update, it might be useful to provide an option that just interprets the current parameter set list and prints it out without the update. Something to put in the hopper for

Re: Documentation for User Process Faults

2004-09-30 Thread Klaus Bergmann
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Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
Seems reasonable (-t0, anyone..?:). I'll consider including a respective parameter in a future version of zipl. How about -n (do all the validation you're going to do anyway, but skip actually doing anything, a la make)? Offhand, dunno whether -n is already taken for something else, though.

Re: ksoftirqd_CPU0 consumes lot of cpu

2004-09-30 Thread Tom Shilson
We get this from time to time. It is due to a kernel bug. There is a patch for it available from the IBM web site. I am at home now and I don't have the information with me. Until we get the patch in we can usually circumvent it by stopping the network interfaces (ifconfig down). removing the

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 15:17:48 +0200, Peter Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the most reasonable solution for scenarios where configuration management tools are used would be to impose a policy, only to use configurations supplied in the zipl.conf file. That's theory only. Even

Re: Documentation for User Process Faults

2004-09-30 Thread Tom Anderson
Mark, Looking in /usr/src/linux-version/arch/s390/kernel/traps.c, routine do_trap(), you will find the code that generates this message. It looks like the value you are seeing is the Program Interrupt Code (PIC) value from the PSW. There are some nested (#ifndef/#ifdef/#else) in this area that

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Not for me, since I never use /etc/zipl.conf for anything. I don't even have one on my systems. Like Rob, I can see more value in querying what is already in the bootmap file. Seeing what _will_ be put in there is useful, also, but less than making sure I understand what is already in there and

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about -n (do all the validation you're going to do anyway, but skip actually doing anything, a la make)? Offhand, dunno whether -n is already taken for something else, though. '-n'is already taken, I'm rather thinking of --dry-run like in the 'patch'

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:03:57 +0200, Peter Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: '-n'is already taken, I'm rather thinking of --dry-run like in the 'patch' tool. Maybe useful too, but different from what I was asking about ;-) I thought -t 2 was the --dry-run from Boeblingen? -- Rob van der

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think the most reasonable solution for scenarios where configuration management tools are used would be to impose a policy, only to use configurations supplied in the zipl.conf file. That's theory only. Even when you

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Peter Oberparleiter
Rob van der Heij [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: '-n'is already taken, I'm rather thinking of --dry-run like in the 'patch' tool. Maybe useful too, but different from what I was asking about ;-) Patience.. :) I thought -t 2 was the --dry-run from Boeblingen? Actually

Re: ksoftirqd_CPU0 consumes lot of cpu

2004-09-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Of course, something like this would not be good for a production Web App. server. If Frank can get the kernel patch applied before going production, that would probably be better. The question is, if his Linux distributor has a kernel available with that included. Mark Post -Original

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Peter, You said To sum it up, there's no universally applicable way of telling what will happen if keywords on the kernel command line provide conflicting information. That's fine. You've given me as good an answer as there is. Thanks for the follow up. Mark Post -Original Message-

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Rob van der Heij
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 18:31:00 +0200, Peter Oberparleiter [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Trust zipl :) If it exits with a return code of 0, it should be safe to assume that the IPL record was written according to the provided configuration. If you're not sure about a new configuration, use the

Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Antônio Pires de Castro Júnior.
Where can I find an ISO slackware/390 images for install ?? slack/390 or slack/390x. thanks in advanced, Antonio Pires. -- For LINUX-390 subscribe / signoff / archive access instructions, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the

Patent Office Rejects Microsoft's FAT Patent

2004-09-30 Thread Ferguson, Neale
See: http://linuxtoday.com/news/2004093003026NWLL In the reexamination proceeding initiated earlier this year by the Public Patent Foundation ('PUBPAT'), the United States Patent and Trademark Office has rejected all of the claims of Microsoft's patent on the FAT file system, which Microsoft

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
I suppose it should not be that hard to include the relevant information in the bootmap - say after the first word of 0 (or whatever signals the loader the end of the list). And zipl -q could retrieve that by reading the bootmap from the IPL records? I agree that putting the information

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
'-n'is already taken, I'm rather thinking of --dry-run like in the 'patch' tool. Drat. --dry-run is OK, though (if a bit verbose). C'est la vie. From my point of view, I'd say yes. I would suggest using the command line parameters only to prepare a new or broken installation for IPL. If

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Alan Altmark
On Thursday, 09/30/2004 at 02:42 AST, David Boyes [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sounds like the multiboot gadget needs to become the unmodifiable default. 8-) Cha-ching! Royalty payment of $10 on copyrighted phrase unmodifiable default is now due. Terms: Net 30, 10%. Chuckie

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Miguel Diaz
wasn't the actual copyrighted phrase unchangeable default? Looks like Chuckie loses out again... Regards, Miguel Diaz Staff Software Engineer TCP/IP for z/VM Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/30/2004 02:55:40 PM: On Thursday, 09/30/2004 at 02:42 AST, David Boyes [EMAIL

Re: Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Gregg C Levine
Hello from Gregg C Levine Mark will probably complain that I stole his lines, but here goes: They don't exist as such as of yet. To find Slackware/390 in both forms I suggest you visit the website, www.slack390.org as far as I know that site will describe the only means to obtain the entire

Re: Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Post, Mark K
There are none. You will need to use wget or curl or rsync, etc. to download the files. Also, there is no 64-bit version of Slack/390 yet. I'm working on it. If the OSDL ever gets me my guest on the Marist z990, it will go a lot faster. :) Mark Post -Original Message- From: Linux on

Re: Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Richard Pinion
I have installed Slack/390 9.1 under Hercules. I have multi-boot with kernel 2.4.21 and 2.4.26. I guess I could take my DASD images and make an ISO image. I'm using two 3390-3's. How would one go about making this available? [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/04 03:04PM Hello from Gregg C Levine

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 14:01, Miguel Diaz wrote: wasn't the actual copyrighted phrase unchangeable default? Looks like Chuckie loses out again... Unmodifiable default is clearly a Derivative Work of unchangeable default. Therefore, David owes Chuckyten TRILLION DOLLARS! And a pony. This

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Miguel Diaz
Ahh...but there are plenty of instances of prior art (http://bumppo.net/lists/macperl/1999/04/msg00189.html for one) Regards, Miguel Diaz Staff Software Engineer TCP/IP for z/VM Linux on 390 Port [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 09/30/2004 03:16:23 PM: On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 14:01, Miguel Diaz

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Adam Thornton
On Thu, 2004-09-30 at 14:21, Miguel Diaz wrote: Ahh...but there are plenty of instances of prior art (http://bumppo.net/lists/macperl/1999/04/msg00189.html for one) Bumppo.net owes Chuckie...TEN TRILLION DOLLARS! And a pony. SCO+DB

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
Sounds like the multiboot gadget needs to become the unmodifiable default. 8-) Cha-ching! Royalty payment of $10 on copyrighted phrase unmodifiable default is now due. Terms: Net 30, 10%. Chuckie It's Univac Data Systems intellectual property, which you have *clearly* released into

Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread David Boyes
And a pony. If there is a pony involved here, there is undoubtedly a container of something unpleasant nearby It is indeed a container of that which promotes growth, and it is very strong. -- db -- For LINUX-390

Re: [Possible Spam] Re: VM Shutdown

2004-09-30 Thread Ward, Garry
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Re: Linux LPAR - how to drop caching

2004-09-30 Thread Tom Russell
AFAIK, there's no way to turn caching completely off in Linux. It is my understanding that any file that is opened with the O_DIRECT option bypasses the Linux cache. I believe that this support was added in SP2 to SLES8. I know that Oracle 10g will open its files with this option if the

Re: Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Post, Mark K
Richard, Nice sentiment, but it won't help Antônio. What you're proposing would give him an image of an installed system, not the installation materials. If you make a .iso image of all the files you downloaded to perform the install, with the directory structure intact, that would help him. I

Re: Iso images for slackware/390. Where??

2004-09-30 Thread Richard Pinion
I do have a DASD image of the 9.1 install tree. [EMAIL PROTECTED] 09/30/04 03:42PM Richard, Nice sentiment, but it won't help Antônio. What you're proposing would give him an image of an installed system, not the installation materials. If you make a .iso image of all the files you