Re: Gentoo Mini-Installfest - Goodbye from Lance Blackler
Thanks Nick. I guess there will be opportunity from time to time to mail the list, so yes, I will keep in touch. I expect that I will be pretty busy for a while getting established, just as I have been frantically busy getting ready to leave. Have now sold up most of our household items, all of the excess computer gear has either been sold or gone to MM and Chris at ezyPC. All the best. Lance Blackler Nick Rout wrote: Well farewell and adieu, but please don't refrain from posting just because you are physically alienated :) On 3/19/06, *sirlancelot* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ross Drummond wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:34, Nick Rout wrote: can we have some feedback on who might be attending this? Put me down as a probable, subject to confirmation. Cheers Ross Drummond I would love to, but we leave for Brisbane that day, we are relocating there, not just a holiday. So I'll take this opportunity to say thank you to all of you who have been so helpfull and especially to those I have met and shared some good times with. I will continue to listen in from Brissy, but you probably won't hear from me much. All the best, to you all, and a heartfelt thanks. Lance Blackler
Re: Outlook style stationary image for background on emails
Not sure if this would be a useful suggestion Dave, but this is very easy to do in Thunderbird, very much like outlook to use and configure (but better of course) ;-) It would mean changing email clients, but you never know, you might be able to talk her around to it if you explain that it will be just like using outlook express, but in Linux. Hope it helps, otherwise, just ignore it. Lance Blackler Nick Rout wrote: OK well i hope we can help you satisfy your wife... My previous advice was to look at kmail's html mail templates, but a bit of googling reveals that a common complaint in kmail reviews is the lack of templates. This may be because the developers are probably true geeks who appreciate the more correct advice that email is a textok been there done that. I guess you are probably stuck with putting in the (fairly minimal) html code for the background image with each email, and/or calling an external editor. Have you done as I suggested and looked at the source file of an outlook email with a background of the sort the missus wants? On Mon, 20 Mar 2006 13:30:31 +1200 bossman wrote: Quoting Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Saturday 18 March 2006 17:12, dave wrote: No we share the one logon as she only uses it to browse the web and read/send emails. Doesn't she want to send her emails under her own name and identity? Should be more specific she has her own email address but to logon the computer it's one logon name - filters in place to divert messages to right mail folder. to all others my wife wonders why all the talk about spies and things ( i know why - ANDREW... ) but she's astonished about how the thread has gone off topic so quickly. Nature of the beast. Many of us are friends and enjoy the irony and banter. i know but she just went on about a simple answer to a simple question. Will look at OOo as an option for sending pretty emails (as some women like to do from time to time with pretty stationary). Create a .pdf document in a DTP app such as Scribus [1] and send it as an attachment. Most of the world does that or something like it. this is a woman who (i must say i've gotten used to linux but gets annoyed at learning new computer things (i mean changing the folders in Kmail and she's ready to bite spit and kick so to speak). [1] http://www.scribus.net -- CS
Re: Gentoo Mini-Installfest - Goodbye from Lance Blackler
Ross Drummond wrote: On Sun, 19 Mar 2006 14:34, Nick Rout wrote: can we have some feedback on who might be attending this? Put me down as a probable, subject to confirmation. Cheers Ross Drummond I would love to, but we leave for Brisbane that day, we are relocating there, not just a holiday. So I'll take this opportunity to say thank you to all of you who have been so helpfull and especially to those I have met and shared some good times with. I will continue to listen in from Brissy, but you probably won't hear from me much. All the best, to you all, and a heartfelt thanks. Lance Blackler
SCO Unixware, does anyone want it. (Free)
Hi all. I'm just going all my stuff, selling what I can and turfing the rest, to lighten the load when we shift to Brisbane next month (yes I'm leaving these shores and heading for sunnier climes :-) ). I found a box set of SCO UnixWare version 2.1.3 which is probably really old. Does anyone want it, or should I just toss it out? It says that it is suitable for 386, 486 and pentium etc. The licence, activation certificate etc is there, in one place says 5 user, another it says 10 :-\ There are 4 CD's altogether - 2 OS ones, 1 ToolWare disk and an evaluation copy of UnixWare optional services. If you want it give me a yell, it's a freebie. ciao Lance Blackler
Re: Dubious securuty?
Steve Holdoway wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:13:18 +1300 HappyEvilSlosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 19:04 +1300, jd wrote: Thank you for taking the time out to answer a paranoid novices question. I would still would like to change distributions. Could anyone give me recommendations and possibly sell me a distribution. Your average distribution is down-loadable from the respective websites. For a novice I strongly suggest Ubuntu (or Kubuntu depending upon your preference of GNOME vs KDE). --Slosh I think I've got a pretty current version of Ubuntu. I've certainly got debian and knoppix latest. I've also got an uncapped ADSL connection at work ( heh ). As always, my advice is to use the distro the person who will be helping you most is familiar with, 'cos there really aint much difference (except in the details), except for a choice of two guis - Gnome and KDE. Steve (Writing from FC4, with debian to my right and CentOS, Gentoo, OpenSolaris, FreeBSD and FC3 at work as well. I scrapped Vector Linux at work because it wasn't technical enough for my rather specialised needs, but would recommend that as a starting point as well). Any chance that I could get you to download the latest Gentoo for me Steve, if you could write it to DVD that would be excellent. Happy to pay for the media of course. Thanks Lance
Re: Dubious securuty?
Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 21:21:41 +1300 sirlancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Steve Holdoway wrote: On Thu, 02 Mar 2006 19:13:18 +1300 HappyEvilSlosh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2006-03-02 at 19:04 +1300, jd wrote: Thank you for taking the time out to answer a paranoid novices question. I would still would like to change distributions. Could anyone give me recommendations and possibly sell me a distribution. Your average distribution is down-loadable from the respective websites. For a novice I strongly suggest Ubuntu (or Kubuntu depending upon your preference of GNOME vs KDE). --Slosh I think I've got a pretty current version of Ubuntu. I've certainly got debian and knoppix latest. I've also got an uncapped ADSL connection at work ( heh ). As always, my advice is to use the distro the person who will be helping you most is familiar with, 'cos there really aint much difference (except in the details), except for a choice of two guis - Gnome and KDE. Steve (Writing from FC4, with debian to my right and CentOS, Gentoo, OpenSolaris, FreeBSD and FC3 at work as well. I scrapped Vector Linux at work because it wasn't technical enough for my rather specialised needs, but would recommend that as a starting point as well). Any chance that I could get you to download the latest Gentoo for me Steve, if you could write it to DVD that would be excellent. Happy to pay for the media of course. Thanks Lance I have it now and will write a cd now if you like. Its one cd. Ok - thanks for that Nick. Let me know where I can pick it up from. Lance
Re: [OT] RCDs (Was: web hosting for club)
I am an electrician, and I hadn't heard this, so I checked with a friend who is a contractor. He says that in general, dishwashers should not trip RCD's, however, anything with an incoloy element in it (and some dishwashers do have them for heating the water and / or drying) can cause RCD's to trip. That is why hot water cylinders are exempt. So, does the dishwasher trip when it is drying or perhaps heating the water (it would be harder to tell with the later as it will probably also be in a washing mode while it heats the water)? Also what is the rating fof the RCD. It should be a 30mA rating for general use, but sometimes 10mA units are used, they are a bit too sensitive for general use, though OK for bathrooms. Any way there is a solution, so long as you are sure that there is not actually a fault with the dishwasher, it can be excluded from the RCD circuit, if it is permanently connected rather than plugged in. You would just have to replace the plug socket with a Permanent Connection Unit (like a towel rail connection). This will be OK if the dishwasher is on its own circuit, but if it is looped in with other plugs in the kitchen you'll be out of luck. ciao Lance Blackler Volker Kuhlmann wrote: Some appliances (including dishwashers?) are not suitable to run off RCDs. What's the reason given for this? Anything involving water would be the first thingeme I'd spend an RCD on. Volker
Re: clug.net.nz...
Hey Don - You should register Disksmith Electronics as a business name - Dick Smiths might decide it is catchy and buy it off you :-) Don Gould wrote: On Fri, 2006-02-24 at 12:40, Nick Rout wrote: strange, the * for bold is being interpreted as * for bulleted lists. Yes. If you look at the instructions at the bottom of the page you'll see that they don't make much sense. I used b/b tags and that worked. Also stop SHOUTING in your headings. Done You may wish to reconsider putting your phone numbers and plain text email address. At least with the latter the formay don at bowenvale dot etc may prevent harvesting by spammers. Phone numbers can be found at www.whitepages.co.nz anyway... email addresses are in the archives... Spamassian rules :) Don't forget you can look at the formatting of other pages by clicking the edit button and parsing the markup visually [1] :-) Done [1] thats geek for looking at it. :) Cheers Don
Re: CLUG Meeting - Tuesday 14th
Even worse, I have found is when you are sure you have such and such a part somewhere, and spend a frustrating week looking for it, when it would have been quicker and easier to get from Molten media or somewhere :-P Any way, I can't take it with me, so it's got to go. Lance Carl Cerecke wrote: On 14/02/06, sirlancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Chris, I can donate some more now if you need them. I will soon be leaving these shores and heading to Brisbane with my Family so am in the process of selling / dumping all the accumulated detritus of a hobby many of us are familiar with, it is quite liberating actually, I am looking forward to not being bogged down by it all. Liberating. Yes. Until 6 months from now when you need such-and-such a part and can't find one, and realise you gave a handful of them away. On the other hand, it seems, if you keep the stuff around just in case, you never need it. Cheers, Carl.
Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3
OK, thanks David. Upper Riccarton is not too far away, but I will be away over the weekend, so wouldn't be able to have a look till next week, or perhaps tomorrow evening if your friend is available then. At least I am reasonably familiar with SuSE. If you want to phone me here at work the number is 339 5809 ciao Lance Blackler david merriman wrote: Sorry, haven't been able to check my email until now. Thanks for the offer Lance. Unfortunately I won't have physical access to the machine until this Saturday, so a phone dialog wouldn't be possible before that anyway. My friend lives in Brodie St, Upper Riccarton, near Church Corner. It's SuSE 9.3, and yes, the mixer did show both soundcards. David sirlancelot wrote: Oh, by the way, probably an obvious one, but when you open the mixer, did it give you an option to select from teh 2 soundcards? Lance Original Message Subject: Re: [NOT] SORTED: Re: Followup to Trying to get microphone working in SuSE 9.3 Date: Mon, 13 Feb 2006 17:08:48 +1300 From: sirlancelot [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: david merriman [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi David Whereabouts is your friend located? Also what distro - sorry I have forgotten and have deleted the old emails? We may be able to do something over the phone, phone me at home later if you like, say about 7pm, 980 8851. Lance B
Re: CLUG Meeting - Tuesday 14th
Hey Chris, I can donate some more now if you need them. I will soon be leaving these shores and heading to Brisbane with my Family so am in the process of selling / dumping all the accumulated detritus of a hobby many of us are familiar with, it is quite liberating actually, I am looking forward to not being bogged down by it all. So if anybody is after some giveaways or cheap stuff, mail me off list. There are monitors, some P1 and P2 boxes, scsi drives and cards and lots of different sorts of plugs and adaptors and whathaveyou. Lance Blackler Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 14 Feb 2006 12:04:39 +1300 Christopher Sawtell wrote: not true, you should bring a network cable as well (straight through, any length, but if everyone who wants to attend brings a 1m cable we are in trouble.) There are at least half a dozen CAT5 cables in the CLUG 'toy-box', or at least there was when I put them there last year. ooops sorry, I didn't realise.
Re: Wasted hard drive space on new format
There's some interesting discussion to be found by googling reiserfs vs ext3. JFS and XFS also look interesting for large file sizes (media files). I use JFS on my Kanotix install, seems quite nice. Lance Nick Rout wrote: On Fri, 03 Feb 2006 09:41:04 +1300 Volker Kuhlmann wrote: hda1 32M /boot Why do people bother with this nonsense? Because on a 300G hard drive and an old bios, i wanted to ensure that the kernel is somewhere where the bios can find it. Once the kernel is loaded it will read the whole drive. hda2 500M swap hda3 20G / hda4 270 something /home (for the storage) / and /home are formatted ext3. I anticipate quite large files. I formatted them quite simply with mke2fs -j. FilesystemSize Used Avail Use% Mounted on /dev/hda4 257G 129M 244G 1% /home Compare with fdisk -l /dev/hda and tune2fs -l /dev/hda4. What's the max size of ext2/3? Try enlarging the filesystem (fsck, resize2fs). Before I start filling it up, is there a better way to format it? Yes, reiserfs ;) Any quick pointers on why you say that (and are you suggesting 3 or 4?) Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Wanted: old slow laptop...
Yes, I have at least one that would fit the bill. I need to get rid of it too, everything needs to be gone soon, I am clearing it all out. Let me know off list if you want to have a look at it. Lance Steve Brorens wrote: (... or a new fast one, as long as it's very cheap :-)) Looking for cheap old machine to hack about on in console and Fluxbox. Must have a working screen and reasonable keyboard and either working Ethernet or working PCMCIA but: - sound not important - modem not important - happy to run from the mains - CDROM not essential as long as the floppy drive works - not averse to Apple - as long as it will run Linux So, anyone splashing out for Christmas and needing a home for their old machine? - steve _ Email Letterhead created by Fluid Software Ltd web: www.fluidsoftware.co.nz _ = This e-mail has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by CommArc Cube Server
Re: os ??
John Mallett wrote: I am just in the process of upgrading my computers to amd 64 bit. Also I have been using Mandriva for a while now. But for about the last month have been using Knoppix. And was just wondering what people thought about the two operating systems. And was wondering what os other ppl were using with there amd 64's And if there were any problems to look out for If you like Knoppix - you might like to try Kanotix. I haven't tried the 64 bit version, but 32 bit (DVD edition) is excellent. I have a copy (both 64 32) if you want to give it a go. Lance Blackler
Re: OT: Request Of MythTV Operators
Hi Andrew. Do you still need these files? I have the last 4 episodes saved, (I had to download one of them, I missed it myself). ciao Lance Blackler Andrew Sands wrote: Guys, I'm finally off on a long overdue holiday tomorrow. This brings about the dilemma of how I watch the next two episodes of 24. Is there anybody on the list using the likes of mythTV that is following this series. To qualify my post, I would have my own mythTV system setup if not for the problems with maintaining systems that are running a large fenced facility to the west of the city. I have the TV card, a larger drive, most of the bits working on my Gentoo Box BUT I fly tomorrow afternoon and I cannot allocate the build time. Anyway, sorry for the long winded post, but I hope someone can help. regards, Andrew
Re: OT: Request Of MythTV Operators
Andrew Sands wrote: Guys, I'm finally off on a long overdue holiday tomorrow. This brings about the dilemma of how I watch the next two episodes of 24. Is there anybody on the list using the likes of mythTV that is following this series. To qualify my post, I would have my own mythTV system setup if not for the problems with maintaining systems that are running a large fenced facility to the west of the city. I have the TV card, a larger drive, most of the bits working on my Gentoo Box BUT I fly tomorrow afternoon and I cannot allocate the build time. Anyway, sorry for the long winded post, but I hope someone can help. regards, Andrew Both episodes are now recorded. LB
Re: Myth TV setup?
Has anyone had experience with the VideoMate DVB-T300 - it got a good review in an Aussy PC mag recently. http://new.compro.com.tw/en/product/vmt300.html Is supposed to work in linux, appears to hardware encode MPG-1, MPG-2, MPG-4 but I'm not 100% sure of that. I like the look of it because it is 1/ a low profile card 2/ Digital and analog. Lance Blackler Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 08 Nov 2005 08:27:18 +1300 Craig FALCONER wrote: Get a hauppauge PVR card. The PVR-150 is really cheap given that it has an on-board mpeg2 encoder. The 250 is basically the same. The 350 has TV out, and the 500 is dual tuner (essentially two 150s on the same card) The MCE version is supposed to work fine with mythtv. I confirm all of the above. the other hardware encoder option is a Plextor ConvertX PVR which hardware encodes to mpeg2 and mpeg4 and is supported by linux and mythtv Don't bother with a philips SAA7134 based card... They're dumb frame grabbers, and need basically a new CPU to run them with mythtv. I have found a bunch of links for the episode guide for New Zealand - will email them tonight/tomorrow.
Re: OT: Request Of MythTV Operators
The 1st episode is in the bag, after a false start, thank goodness for encore showing. It's actualy in xvid format. Lance Andrew Sands wrote: Guys, I'm finally off on a long overdue holiday tomorrow. This brings about the dilemma of how I watch the next two episodes of 24. Is there anybody on the list using the likes of mythTV that is following this series. To qualify my post, I would have my own mythTV system setup if not for the problems with maintaining systems that are running a large fenced facility to the west of the city. I have the TV card, a larger drive, most of the bits working on my Gentoo Box BUT I fly tomorrow afternoon and I cannot allocate the build time. Anyway, sorry for the long winded post, but I hope someone can help. regards, Andrew
Re: OT: Request Of MythTV Operators
I will be recording 24 to mpg2 format, let me know if you want a copy (I can put them on a DVD as files if you like). Lance B Andrew Sands wrote: Guys, I'm finally off on a long overdue holiday tomorrow. This brings about the dilemma of how I watch the next two episodes of 24. Is there anybody on the list using the likes of mythTV that is following this series. To qualify my post, I would have my own mythTV system setup if not for the problems with maintaining systems that are running a large fenced facility to the west of the city. I have the TV card, a larger drive, most of the bits working on my Gentoo Box BUT I fly tomorrow afternoon and I cannot allocate the build time. Anyway, sorry for the long winded post, but I hope someone can help. regards, Andrew
Re: OT - anyone else having problems connecting to the xtra smtp server?
Maybe then it would be a good topic for a shortish discussion at one of the meetings. I have to admit to being one of those who have so far ignored this technology, but i'd be interested to listen to a discussion of the why's and wherefore's. Lance B Steve Holdoway wrote: On Fri, October 21, 2005 3:00 pm, Christopher Sawtell wrote: But they can't do that if their mail server is out of order. I really wish the ISPs would disseminate this kind of info using RSS. A recent survey showed that well under 5% of regular computer users had even heard of RSS, let alone used it. What's wrong with the web page concept as a backup for the M$^H^H technologically challenged? Steve
Re: CLUG meeting topics
Yes yes again :-) I'll definitely be making every effort to attend these meetings thank you Chris, I appreciate your efforts to accomodate us all. And, yes I got the check thanks, so all is well. ciao Lance B Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Tuesday 18 October 2005 09:04, sirlancelot wrote: I will stick my hand up and say that wednesday would definitely be better for me thanks. I hope you find the 2006 meeting dates to your liking? We have another person who cannot do Weds. so it's 50/50. btw, have you received yur money yet?
Re: CLUG meeting topics
I for one would be keen on a repeat of the Myth TV and diskless computers demo's, at the very least. Whether I would actually get to see them is another thing. Another topic of interest for me would be video / audio file editing and file conversion using free codecs etc. For example at the moment I am grappling with separating the soundtrack out of a DVD movie using mplayer - and converting the result to a CD. Lance Blackler Robert Fisher wrote: Dear All, The CLUG Infrastructure mailing list often ponders about what topics should be covered at upcoming meetings. I believe that with new people joining CLUG there may be a need to repeat earlier presentations for those who have missed them. I may be wrong though so that is why I am putting the question. My geatest Linux steps have all been after CLUG presentations. I think my top 5 would be (in no order):- Nick Rout on Gentoo I was so impressed with the ease of package management and how up to date it is that I have been using Gentoo as my main distro for the 3 years since. Ken Yap on Etherboot I went home, did a bit more research and set up 3 diskless computers at home (for 2 borders and my garage) Jim and Volker on email topics I set up a mail server for my home network. Nick on MythTV I have permission to build one for home (after the fence is finished) Wesley on Qemu I am now very happy that I do not have to start my laptop just to use one program on Windows, I can do it on WinXP in Qemu on my Gentoo PC. I have enjoyed others presentations as well and other members probably have a top 5 of their own. If they are also listed perhaps we could get an idea of which, if any, could/should be repeated. Any other comments? (Or am I barking up the wrong tree?)
Re: CLUG meeting topics
I will stick my hand up and say that wednesday would definitely be better for me thanks. Lance Robert Fisher wrote: On Sat, 15 Oct 2005 13:11, Christopher Sawtell wrote: Day of the Meeting. --- Would anybody like me to attempt to change the meeting day? I have had a request to alter it to a day later in the month. Also a change from Tuesday would allow list members who have prior bookings on Tuesdays to come to our meetings. (There is at least one person to whom this applies). I intend to approach the St. Albans hall management to see if that is possible, but before I do I'd like some more feedback as whether the third or fourth Wednesday is a good idea or otherwise. ( The reason for this is so that the St. Albans meetings are not so close in the time dimension to Rik's GLU meetings at Sydenham ) For me the current timetable is fine. Wednesdays are always out (basketball) 3rd and 4th Thursdays are also out.
Re: 64-bit Linux
The DVD version of Kanotix has a 64 bit version, haven't tried it so can't report about it, both Robert Fisher and I are impressed with the 32 bit version, stacks and stacks of apps (presumably only some of which will be 64 bit when installed that way, the rest will run in 32 bit mode). You are welcome to a copy. Lance B Jamie Dobbs wrote: Having just built myself a new AMD64 3200+ machine I've been playing around with Gentoo for AMD 64 and must say that I am pretty impressed with the overall speed, but a little concerned about the lack of applications that have been ported to 64bit (no Openoffice yet for example). What other Linux distros offer 64 bit versions? Can anoyone provide me with copies of them? (I will of course replace media). Thanks Jamie
Re: Setting up Audio on Redhat-CCRMA
That's very true, for example I'm using Kanotix at the moment and enjoying it very much, and still like Mepis as well. both Debian based, but some very handy tweaks. The Kano distro is winning at the moment since it has KDE 3.5 and Kernel 2.6.12 iirc, very nice anyway. I was even able to install Freevo this morning, which I think is still a problem (with a python version conflict) on Ubuntu at the moment. Mind you it may have been resolved by now. regards Lance Blackler Robert Fisher wrote: On Fri, 07 Oct 2005 02:16, Richard Tindall wrote: One of the main reasons I switched to Ubuntu was because I wanted a distro with 2.6 kernel with proper package management. At the time, there were 2 realistic options; Gentoo and Ubuntu. Gentoo seemed to be too much of a fuss. I do not understand why you narrow it down to only two distros for those two criteria. IMHO there are several others which satisfy them.
Re: Something funny happening?
As did I Lance Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 06 Oct 2005 09:39, Andrew Errington wrote: On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 16:26, you wrote: Is there anybody else that is getting double messages turning up from the list? Interestingly enough, I got duplicates of Nick's message from 20:42:07 and 21:26:28 last night. So did I.
Re: Apologies for leaving early
I have a box of ethernet cables, various different lengths, some are crossover as well. they were amonst some excess gear being discarded at work, I'd be happy to donate a selection of those. Lance Nick Rout wrote: Frankly I think we should buy the following and find somewhere on premises to lock it away: selection of ethernet cables extension cord 6 way multibox (maybe) 5 port switch. Total cost under $70 including a switch. The only problem may be in finding somewhere secure to keep it for the 30 days a month when we are NOT there. It must be on site or its a waste of time. It must also be easy to retrieve for obvious reasons, but at the same time secure. Other thoughts welcome. On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 10:27:14 +1200 david merriman wrote: Next time I'll make sure I bring an extension cord myself, just in case ;-) .
Re: My screw up
CtrlAltBackspace will take you back to the login screen ciao Lance motivated wrote: I must be suffering from a short memory. When I boot up I get automatically logged in and end up at my desktop, logged in as Kelvyn. How do I log in from there as Root, because I cant get access to half my files. I tried opening the terminal and logging in there as Root, but that didnt do it. Theres going to be a bunch of questions coming tonite. Thanks Regards Kelvyn.
Re: Apologies for leaving early
Home is in Hoon Hay Chris, work is Addington, I could get them to work I suppose - I'll have a fish through them and let you know what I have re the 10m requirement etc (tomorrow that is). Lance Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 13:44, sirlancelot wrote: I have a box of ethernet cables, various different lengths, some are crossover as well. they were amonst some excess gear being discarded at work, I'd be happy to donate a selection of those. Please! How to actually them from you, might produce interesting logistics. Geographically, where are they? Got any ideas?
Re: CLUG toolbox
Interested? - Definitely Lance Christopher Sawtell wrote: On Wed, 14 Sep 2005 16:36, Steve Holdoway wrote: Why not take this a little further? I've got a mini-itx box with a 20GB disk. I'd be happy to build it up headless as a dhcp server, and keep it up to date for yum/apt updates, maybe even emerge. Tfhere is a dhcp server in the ADSL gateway. But the idea of this being an access point has considerable value. If anyone's got a pci riser and a qfe card, then we won't need a switch at all. A suitable s/h switch will only cost $25 dollars of so, Alternatively, stick a wireless card in and use it as an access point - given the number of lappies I see these days. Yes I think that that is a very good idea! Can I book you to give a talk about how to do this? I suspect that there are several members other than me who would be very interested in seeing how that's done. Anyone interested? Steve On Wed, September 14, 2005 2:33 pm, Craig FALCONER wrote: Agreed - I can supply all the ethernet and power cabling as a donation. I have a crimper too and can make lengths to need. Probably can scrounge up a small switch too. I am legally a competent person and can safety test mains voltage gear too. Nominate someone to be the Equipment Officer and they are responsible for getting the gear to meetings, and they have the use of it in the rest of the month. -Original Message- From: Volker Kuhlmann [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, 14 September 2005 2:01 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: CLUG toolbox Frankly I think we should buy the following and find somewhere on premises to lock it away: selection of ethernet cables Ack. Make sure the cables are straight, and get one or two crossover adapters. That gives you maximum flexibility and prevents you having arguments with your equipment are you stright or not? I wish I had the longer one crossed and the shorter one straight. Lowest prices at tastech.co.nz (in Sydenham). extension cord 6 way multibox All this stuff dirt cheap at Bunnings. (maybe) 5 port switch. Make it 8-port (5-port is history). And make it a CNet, not an X-net, $35 at Tastech and has auto-sensing straight/crossover, ie you plug it in and are done with it. Throw it all into a $9.95 toolbox from the Junkhouse or Bunnings or Placemakers or Idontcare. Stick a list of the inventory to the inside of the lid... and label all items with a big black pen. The only problem may be in finding somewhere secure to keep it for the 30 days a month when we are NOT there. It must be on site or its a waste of time. It must also be easy to retrieve for obvious reasons, but at the same time secure. The person who is usually attending the meeting every month takes it home - someone else picks it up if necessary? It's not a waste of time if it's not on site, as long as you can rely on all items being in the one box which you grab on the way out. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Time for a new distro...
Do you prefer Gnome or KDE? If you mostly like Ubuntu - and KDE, Mepis is worth a look. Lance Jamie Dobbs wrote: This is not meant to cause a distro-war, I mearly want some opinions on the pros and cons of various Linux distributions. I have been a keen Gentoo user to this point but find that I am tiring if the time it takes to actually get software installed. The options I am considering for my new disro of choice are: Fedora Core 4 - From the quick look I have had at it looks pretty good, just not too sure of package availability for it or package mangement tools. SUSE 9.3 - I downloaded the net installer but don't seem to be able to get the install to work, cannot find a DVD image of this to try. Again my worries are package availability and mangement. Ubuntu - Have tried this in the past and found is pretty good but there was just something about it that but me off, I'm not sure what it was as package management is pretty good (apt-get) and sources appear to be pretty up to date. I think in all honesty it was just the default 'look' that put me off, brown is not the most interesting nor restful colour to look at on a computer screen. Main uses of the PC are: Web browsing (Firefox) Email (Thunderbird) Office app (OpenOffice or perhaps KOffice) FTP Client (open to recommendations of a good graphical FTP Client) MP3 playing (XMMS) CD ripping to MP3 (Still trying to find a good one here, GRIP is OK) DIVX Creation from DVD media that I own (DVDrip? Is there anything else) Media playback of the above other media such as MPG, WMV etc. (MPlayer + WinCodecs) A few games (RPG/Rogue style, MAME and puzzle type games) I would welcome peoples real experiences with these ditro's, my related concerns and the applications I want. I would still one day love to not have to boot back in to Windows to do things I cannot find equivalents of in Linux. Cheers Jamie
Re: OT - Old Power Supply Sources?
I have a bunch of them in my garage Jason, you'd be welcome to take one (or two) away. I live in Hoon Hay - but phone me if you like 339 5809 Lance Jason Greenwood wrote: Hi All, I am making a 12v Power Supply to drive my RC Battery charger. I'm making one like the ones detailed here: http://www.marcee.org/Articles/PCPowerSupply.htm http://web2.murraystate.edu/andy.batts/ps/powersupply.htm but I need an old PC Power supply to make it. Anyone have an old, cheap one I can buy or know where I could source a used one? Free would be ideal, of course. =) Cheers Jason Greenwood
Re: sound
Is kudzu in Ubuntu? I have often had success finding and setting up sound cards with kudzu in Mepis and other debian flavours as well. Lance HappyEvilSlosh wrote: On Mon, 2005-08-01 at 16:06 +1200, Matthew Whiting wrote: I've put getting my modem setup in the too hard basket for a little while. The other thing I can't get working so far is sound. I may get a sound card one day but for now according to lspci my setup is: :00:1b.0 0403: Intel Corp. 82801FB/FBM/FR/FW/FRW (ICH6 Family) High Definiti on Audio Controller (rev 03) If I try opening Volume Control I'm told No volume control elements and/or devices found. Did a bit of a search on google and the Ubuntu wiki and a suggestion is to install Alsa. It seems I already have the alsa-base package installed so not sure if that's all that I need or not? As for the next step now? Any suggestions appreciated. Cheers Matthew Have you tried alsaconf? It's a fantastic little program, should come with alsa. --Slosh
Re: A job for someone
How short? In other words are you looking for someone with the specialised equipment, or just someone with the patience to do the job at home on a couple of PC's set up for that purpose? Is it a paying job? Lance B PS (I could probably volunteer one of my lot at home to do the latter) Robert Fisher wrote: I have a customer who wants to burn 1300 identcal CD's in a short timeframe. Please phone me if you think you can do it or know someone who can.
Re: A job for someone
Ah, I was too quick hitting the send on that last message. Just did the math, no way to do it in a short time frame with ordinary gear - sorry about that embarrased Lance Robert Fisher wrote: I have a customer who wants to burn 1300 identcal CD's in a short timeframe. Please phone me if you think you can do it or know someone who can.
Re: dual utp cable-end
You can buy these Jim, we sell them in our MasterTrade and Corys branches for example. They work just fine. You can get Data / Data splitters as well as Phone / Data. 328430_ ST071 RJ45 SPLITTER DATA/DATA $9.95 trade price + GST Lance Blackler dave lilley wrote: what about a laplink type arrangement ? eg booting up under dos and trying out laplink / fast wire (i have this program if you want to try it ( fits on a 1.44 floppy so could email to you ) but then you'd need a box at both ends running dos or win9x. dave. Nick Rout wrote: On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 20:23 +1200, Nick Rout wrote: dse xh4248, although described as a voice data splitter will do this I believe hmm looking closer I am not so sure now, maybe it was a similar thing but wired for two data. looking now at jaycar... On Sun, 2005-07-17 at 20:18 +1200, Jim Cheetham wrote: I have a small cabling problem, and a thought for a solution - but no actual tools to test it out ... I have a long run of a single UTP cable from the garage to the study at home. No opportunity to run a second cable (we tried a second one at the time the first was put in, but there was no way it was going to fit through the cable run that has been made). Now, for purposes of network segregation, I need to have two classes of network at both ends of that single cable. I'm not able to VLAN the switches at either end (which is the 'expensive equipment' way to solve problems of sharing things). However, it's an 8-core cable with all 8 wired up, and utp signals only over 4 wires. So I should be able to basically have two RJ45s at each end, and therefore have two independent signals. I don't know if there's an official wiring spec for this usage - any references welcome. However, even if I pick a 'bad' way to use the cable, I'll still get useable signal out of it. Now, because the cable in question is physically pretty much stuck where it is, and I'd hate to stuff it up, I'm proposing leaving it entirely untouched. But what I can do, I hope, is to get a couple of double-headed extension cables ... a single socket at one end, and a pair of plugs at the other end. If the socket bit is difficult to sort out, I could use a plug and then one of those double-socket extenders to join on to the original. Now, has anyone tried a double-headed cable? Care to whip up a couple for me? ;-) -jim
Re: linux installation questions
Hu Matthew, in my experience, you could install MEPIS in 20 minutes on your machine and you'll already know if everything works OK before you commit to it since it installs from a live disk install. It really is easy, even your dynalink modem will work (installed automatically, but only with the 2.4 kernel). Others will have different ideas, but that would be my choice. Lance Blackler Matthew Whiting wrote: Hi all, New to Christchurch and to this list, so hello all! I'm in the process of buying a new machine and wondering whether or not to get XP with it. I don't really want to spend hours and hours struggling to set the machine up with Linux. I've spent considerable time in the past partitioning drives, installing Mandrake 8.2 and running Win98 on the other partition. So, three questions: 1. With a reasonably new machine, can there be issues with drivers being available for all the hardware? Haven't got all the specs with me at present, but the motherboard will be an INTEL D915GAGL UATX LGA775 MOTHERBOARD, will be a Philips LCD and DYNALINK 56K INTERNAL PCI MODEM. But, just in general, how much time and effort would generally be needed? I know Linux distributions are getting more and more user friendly these days. I'm a programmer and not really a hardware person. If some of the setup is not straightforward and requires editing configuration files I'd rather instructions on how to do this. Have no desire at all to try hacking config files :o) 2. I am sure there are many opinions on this, but a good Linux version to start with? I'd rather not a bloated OS with bits and pieces I may never need but would prefer a minimal installation where I can keep tabs on everything I've installed and install extra software as needed. So, yeah something crisp and easy to maintain! Initially I'll be looking to use the machine for web-based programming - PHP with an Apache webserver, MySQL database... Maybe one day I'll look at doing some graphics programming. 3. Where can I get a hold of the necessary installation cds? Thanks for any thoughts... Cheers Matthew
Re: linux installation questions
Not sure Nick, have you had success, I haven't that's all? Lance Blackler Nick Rout wrote: On Thu, 14 Jul 2005 13:44:05 +1200 sirlancelot wrote: Hu Matthew, in my experience, you could install MEPIS in 20 minutes on your machine and you'll already know if everything works OK before you commit to it since it installs from a live disk install. It really is easy, even your dynalink modem will work (installed automatically, but only with the 2.4 kernel). why not with 2.6? Others will have different ideas, but that would be my choice. Lance Blackler Matthew Whiting wrote: Hi all, New to Christchurch and to this list, so hello all! I'm in the process of buying a new machine and wondering whether or not to get XP with it. I don't really want to spend hours and hours struggling to set the machine up with Linux. I've spent considerable time in the past partitioning drives, installing Mandrake 8.2 and running Win98 on the other partition. So, three questions: 1. With a reasonably new machine, can there be issues with drivers being available for all the hardware? Haven't got all the specs with me at present, but the motherboard will be an INTEL D915GAGL UATX LGA775 MOTHERBOARD, will be a Philips LCD and DYNALINK 56K INTERNAL PCI MODEM. But, just in general, how much time and effort would generally be needed? I know Linux distributions are getting more and more user friendly these days. I'm a programmer and not really a hardware person. If some of the setup is not straightforward and requires editing configuration files I'd rather instructions on how to do this. Have no desire at all to try hacking config files :o) 2. I am sure there are many opinions on this, but a good Linux version to start with? I'd rather not a bloated OS with bits and pieces I may never need but would prefer a minimal installation where I can keep tabs on everything I've installed and install extra software as needed. So, yeah something crisp and easy to maintain! Initially I'll be looking to use the machine for web-based programming - PHP with an Apache webserver, MySQL database... Maybe one day I'll look at doing some graphics programming. 3. Where can I get a hold of the necessary installation cds? Thanks for any thoughts... Cheers Matthew
Re: Meeting topic suggestion - multimedia
I would definitely be interested. Probably would end up missing it sadly, as I did the MythTV presentation, being on one of my unavalaible days, but definitely interested. Lance Nick Rout wrote: After the mythtv meeting I thought that maybe it would be an idea to give a talk on multimedia and linux, covering such stuff as: digital sound and video technology concepts - digital/analogue, surround sound, codecs, containers etc etc linux multimedia support - * audio: oss/alsa/arts/esd/jack/nas *video out: fb/X11/Xv/open-gl/Xvmc/SDL/overlay *video in: video4linux multimedia files and formats (wav, mp3, flac, avi, mpeg, rm, wmv,pal, ntsc, dv etc etc) how to play them - mplayer, xine, vlc, kaffeine, xmms, play, aplay how to edit audio and video - turning your camera's videos into dvd's etc how to transcode to other formats. I know some stuff about these things, although not everything. I would be happy to prepare a talk (although by the look of the above list it would not be possible to cover everything in one session). What I really want to know is whether there would be interest in such a talk?
Re: clug.tv
Sounds good Nick. Some thing like that would be worth doing in my opinion. Lance Nick Rout wrote: I have a friend who runs a private amateur TV station called ATV (A=Amateur). He is an electronics wiz who lives up in Cashmere. It broadcasts somewhere on the UHF or VHF range AFAIK. The stuff is mainly community contributed. Some of it is delightfully low tech - if you want to advertise a party or gig you email him a poster, he prints it out and sticks it on the ranchslider. Then he points the camera at it, so you get the poster plus whatever you can see round the edges - ie out the ranchslider LOL. He has like an array of VHS and dvd machines plugged in, although of course only one device can be transmitted at once. There is some mechanism for those in the know to be able to dial in and select the program via touchtones. At present resource contention is handled by politeness - if something is showing, you don't interrupt. I saw him recently and we were discussing TV, media, etc. I told him about my forthcoming mythtv talk, and he suggested he could broadcast LUG stuff, either live or from digital videotape. I declined on that occasion, both out of shyness and the lack of time before the meeting. We've had people not being able to make it because of other commitments, and the concept of streaming the meeting digitally seems to have a major bandwidth issue. However a subsequent ability to broadcast over the airwaves might be just the ticket, especially if the video was edited nicely.
Re: Wednesday meeting
I concur, useful and encouraging to see the interest in Linux and free software. I'm happy the install went well for you Bob, I have sent you some info off list, but also - if you write the CD you'll find more help and info on there. I apologise for the noisy intrusion by the way - got a bit carried away there a couple of times and spoke over the rest of you guys. ciao Lance B - Original Message - From: jocknz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Linux Users linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Saturday, July 08, 2017 1:40 AM Subject: Wednesday meeting Hi I would like to thank the orginizers of last nights very informative evening special praise to Sir Lancelot for installing MEPIS is my machine, every thing up and running, modem,sound,scanner,cdwriter,printer,usb pendrive. all I need now is to find a few readme,s :)..thanks again Robert Bernard
Re: OT : Electronic repairs in ChCh
Daryn Hanright wrote: I know this is totally off-topic, but with a collection of nerds like on this list, someone is bound to know this... ;-) Got a Palm Tungsten W (PDA cellphone (data) - needs headset for GSM phone bit). I brought a flip/protective cover with it that also had a cellphone headset built into it. Anyway the headset bit stopped working, so I unstiched the flip cover got the electronics out. Looks very simple...cellphone headset connector leading to circuit board with microphone on circuit board speaker leading off the connector. So simple it must just be a broken wire/loose connection... Question is : Where would the best place be to take something like this in ChCh? They're not made anymore - but I reckon all it needs is a electronics whizz to have a look at it, do some soldering etc. My goal is too get the electronics working again, integrate it into a really nice leather case I've got for the Tungsten. cheers Daryn Try this guy, if he is still around, seemed pretty capable to me. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Last time I knew he lived at 78 Flockton Street,St Albans Hi name is Alan Liefting ciao Lance Blackler
Re: OT - DVD writer recommendations
http://blankcd.co.nz/dvdrwdrives.htm http://www.pricespy.co.nz/c_166.html LB - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 2:43 PM Subject: Re: OT - DVD writer recommendations On Wed, 06 Jul 2005 14:38:44 +1200 (NZST) Jamie Dobbs wrote: I need a new cd writer, and at the prices i may as well get the ability to write dvd as well. so, what should I look for? avoid? I assume that I would want dual layer, with support for dvd-r dvd+r dvd-rw dvd+rw Yep, I would recommend the LG drives - very reliable and very quiet. Another advantage is that I believe most of them support DVDRAM as well (I know mine does anyway). Cheers, who round this dump of a town stocks them? -- Nick Rout
Re: GLU workshop July 6th +SFD
I'd be willing to install MEPIS on the night if you'd like a Debian based system Robert. It is still my favourite, even after trying (and liking - but..) SUSE 9.2 for a while now. Let me know if you want to take up this offer and I will schedule the time. ciao Lance B - Original Message - From: Richard Tindall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 9:34 PM Subject: Re: GLU workshop July 6th +SFD Hello Bob, Robert Bernard wrote: Hello May I bring my machine along to your workshop on the Linux beginners evening? Yes that would be fine. I would like someone to install Linux for me. If there is a willing helper planning to attend, can they please attach to this thread? 98 and xp pro,are already running on the drive with a spare section of 8gb for Linux.(I hope) what sort of details would i need other thanX86 based Pc. processor Genuine lintel 467MHz. 448.00MB mem. intel M5 mother board. sound ess 1868. NVidea gforce mxmx400. Aopen cd writer, Lt Modem.. It sounds pretty standard gear. Any printer/etc peripherals attached? The modem (internal?) is always the sticking point, but I believe LT should be fine. Especially under Suse, as I recall. An external serial port modem is the way to go, if you can. I would have recommended trying Ubuntu first, but reports are that Fedora Core 3 http://fedora.redhat.com has drivers more readily available for LT (or Mepis). It comes down to what your installer wants to supply. They'll need to bring your CDs. - Anyone? I have to run the sessions, so will be able to fill the installer role as a last option only. or is it worth the effort? Yes, if you're keen to learn Linux. This is a good start. Definitely. Bob Bernard It's a can-do. See you there, Rik -- Richard Tindall, InfoHelp Services http://www.infohelp.co.nz on: Ubuntu GNU/Linux 5.04 free OS, 2.6.10-5-686 kernel, GNOME 2.10.0 desktop
Re: amd64/em64t ubuntu CDs
I'd be interested in one of those thanks Jim, I have a freind with an AMD64 machine that I want to demo Linux on for him. Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: Jim Cheetham [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Wednesday, June 22, 2005 4:56 PM Subject: amd64/em64t ubuntu CDs Shipit delivered a set of Ubuntu CDs to me, but got the numbers slightly wrong. I have 10 Ubuntu 5.04 AMD64/EM64T CD packs that I have absolutely no need for. If anyone wants to claim them, please let me know :-) -jim
Lindsay Roberts
Dear list members Some of you no doubt will recall that Lindsay was a member of our list, even though he lived in Taumaranui. He went by the user name Linz. Sadly, I have just learned from his wife Judy that he passed away on Monday. Lindsay, like myself was one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so we used to correspond quite a lot off list about Linux / PCissues. I will be sending a card to Judy, if any of you would like me to include a comment I'd be happy to do that. All th ebest Lance Blackler
Re: Lindsay Roberts
Thank you Nick - I will include condolences from the List and make mention of the individuals who replied as well, thanks to you all as well. Lance - Original Message - From: Nick Rout [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, May 20, 2005 11:07 AM Subject: Re: Lindsay Roberts I am saddened to hear that. Linz seemed a nice guy, as far as you can tell from this impersonal medium. From my own perspective, I am happy for you to include the List as expressing its condolences. On Fri, 20 May 2005 10:05:15 +1200 sirlancelot wrote: Dear list members Some of you no doubt will recall that Lindsay was a member of our list, even though he lived in Taumaranui. He went by the user name Linz. Sadly, I have just learned from his wife Judy that he passed away on Monday. Lindsay, like myself was one of Jehovah's Witnesses, so we used to correspond quite a lot off list about Linux / PC issues. I will be sending a card to Judy, if any of you would like me to include a comment I'd be happy to do that. All th ebest Lance Blackler -- Nick Rout
Re: Mini ITX spdif sound puzzle solved (WAS Reference/sample ac3 5.1 files?)
Nick Rout wrote: ahhh well sound crisis over. no need for a sample file, I know it works now. my problem was basically the lack of s/pdif digital sound out the back of my via mini-itx M9000 mainboard. the via mini-itx mainboard manual has an error. there is an rca plug at the back that can function either as tv-out or spdif (ie digital sound). there is a jumper to switch between functions. The manual has the pins confused, I moved the jumper to the other setting and bang I have digital sound. Whats more if the file is encoded with 5.1 channels, they all come out the correct speakers. sweet. other forums have commented on the motherboard error, but it doesn't come up anywhere near the top on google. I changed the subject line and mentioned every possible search word to assist future searchers. *sigh* next up? hardware mpeg2 decoding. perhaps a demo of the media box would be a good clug session? combined with watching Revolution OS again? Or perhaps just a few episodes of Firefly :-) Or perhaps anyone who wants a mythtv box has one already and I am just a slow starter. Well I for one would be very interested in a demo - struggling with some of these issues right now. Lance
Re: computer upgrade
A friend has a similar box running XP - it goes OK - just can't use all the 64 bit features as I understand it. We are probably going to dual boot his machine with SuSE 9.1 Lance B - Original Message - From: Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Canterbury Linux Users Group linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, April 15, 2005 4:03 PM Subject: OT: computer upgrade Hi Cluggers not sure if this is OT or not... Finally I'm getting round to upgrading the old linux box bit of a nightmare trying to compare apples with apples etc. while doing the rounds of the retailers... I'm looking at a AMD Athlon64 based system, so the specs are: PROCESSOR: AMD Athlon64 3000+ Socket939 CPU Boxed MOBO: GIGABYTE GA-K8NSC-939 nForce3 Ultra, Socket 939, Dual channel DDR400/333/266 Gigabit Lan, SATA.AGP 8x,8-CH Audio, USB 2.0 GRAFFICS CARD: PINE XFX PV-T43K-UDF7 GF 6600 AGP 256MB TV DUAL DVI AGP OUT (with two DVI-VGA Converter) POWERSUPPLY: Task 520W Ultra Silent PSC, with 120mm crystal Blue LED ball bearing fan (900PRM silent operation), SATA power connector, piano black casing, compatiable with 24 pin MB (Xeon.3.3V = A,5V = 34A,12V = 28A,3.3V and 5V combined = 262W. CASE: Lian-Li PC-7B Special Edition, all-alloy ,500W 120mm fan PSU (SATA Ready), 2 x case fans with filtering MEMORY: A-Data 1 Gb (2 x 512Mb) DDR4400 Dual Channel memory kit. I have been to google/Linuxhardware.org etc. etc. but priority 1 was everything linux compatable (it'll probably be a gentoo box down the track - but initially Mepis/Debian sarge) One thing I'm not too sure about is the dual boot with windows thing?? (I'm currently dual booting with Win$98 - but if it comes down to it this will be a Linux only machine!) I understand that Win$ is a non-starter with 64bit??? I was wondering if anyone had any suggestions/experiences/nightmares etc. before I take the plunge?? -- cheersdave g Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kmail 1.7.2/Kontact 1.0.2 KDE/Desktop 3.3.2 SimplyMEPIS 3.3 Linux - Kernel 2.6.10 (i686)
Re: Linux Windows - linz
Hi Linz I think you mean missing NTLDR. There is a good page about that error here http://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch000465.htm Basically - it is not linux that is causing the problem as far as I can see, it may be a hardware problem - or it may be a BIOS setting problem, any way read throughth einfo. One way around this issue is to not load lilo or grub inthe MBR - load it in the root of the partition istead and use a boot floppy to start linux when you need to - or even set up XP toboot your linux. This is not too hard to do actually - http://www.geocities.com/epark/linux/grub-w2k-HOWTO.html is one of many web sites that explain how to do it (search google for dual boot with XP or similar wording. Hope that helps Linz. Busy this month as I am AP'ing by the way - really enjoying it too. shalom Lance - Original Message - From: Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 4:44 PM Subject: Linux Windows - linz Jeff Frustrations. I've spent many hours today repartitioning Judy's PC. Finally had to load Win98SE dos and use Fdisk to remove all partitions, put just one partition on and then install WinME (as your XP disk Windows claimed was missing an essential file.) ME went on at a breeze. Next used Update version of XP and that took an hour and a half. Installed ok and booted nicely afterward. Next - put on Mepis 3.3. Now wont boot into XP again says missing NTBLR. I think I'll have to ditch Linux on here PC. No other answer that I can see. Linz
Re: Debian Testing online / workshop GLU tonight
You might recall that I mentioned apt-setup Rik. Could be worth installing it for a look. It will set up your sources list question and answer style. apt-get install apt-setup Synaptic also allows you to make changes to your sources list (repositories) from the gui regards Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: richard tindall [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, April 07, 2005 4:34 PM Subject: Re: Debian Testing online / workshop GLU tonight Getting there, slowly.. On Thu, 2005-04-07 at 16:26 +1200, Robert Fisher wrote: On Thu, 07 Apr 2005 16:13, richard tindall wrote: It was attached, and is again as amended now.. Have a closer look at my sources.list compared to yours. The glaring error I notice is that you have the word Packages instead of the actual package types e.g main contrib non-free debian:/etc/apt# apt-get update Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/main Packages Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/main Release Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/contrib Packages Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/contrib Release Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/non-free Packages Hit http://linux.jetstreamgames.co.nz stable/non-free Release Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/main Release Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Packages Hit http://security.debian.org testing/updates/contrib Release Reading Package Lists... Done And this looks ok: debian:/etc/apt# apt-get -s install wvdial Reading Package Lists... Done Building Dependency Tree... Done The following extra packages will be installed: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 The following NEW packages will be installed: libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 wvdial 0 upgraded, 2 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded. Inst libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (1:2.95.4-22 Debian:testing) Inst wvdial (1.53.0.1 Debian:3.0r4/stable) Conf libstdc++2.10-glibc2.2 (1:2.95.4-22 Debian:testing) Conf wvdial (1.53.0.1 Debian:3.0r4/stable) But the same in Synaptic crashed it. I don't want to jigger it already, but ready to roll.. (?)
Re: Red Hat 9 (Shrike)
This was sorted thanks shane - Original Message - From: IT Support NZ To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, April 05, 2005 3:41 PM Subject: Re: Red Hat 9 (Shrike) Did you get an answer to your question? I have a 7 CD set hidden in a box somewhere if you need one. Shane A quick inquirey. One of the chaps in out IT department here at work is looking for a copy of Red Hat 9 (shrike). He has tried downloading it but it apparantly keeps stalling. Does anybody have a copy that he could duplicate if that is permissable, or buy if need be? Thanks Lance Blackler No virus found in this outgoing message.Checked by AVG Anti-Virus.Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.9.1 - Release Date: 1/04/2005
Re: problem with isa sound card
Has anyone suggested booting the PC with Knoppix to see if the card works - hardware detection can sometimes be quite good in Knoppix. May save some time if it turns out to be a dud card, on the other hand inspires confidence to know that it works if it fires up OK . Lance with a a maybe lame 2c worth - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, April 01, 2005 11:45 AM Subject: Re: problem with isa sound card Is this a problem that has suddenly developed? No, I am putting togther a pc for my sister, went to computer broker and bought $5 sound card.
Red Hat 9 (Shrike)
A quick inquirey. One of the chaps in out IT department here at work is looking for a copy of Red Hat 9 (shrike). He has tried downloading it but it apparantly keeps stalling. Does anybody have a copy that he could duplicate if that is permissable, or buy if need be? Thanks Lance Blackler
Re: Red Hat 9 (Shrike)
Thanks Volker. Could I get you to cut it to DVD for me please - I'll get a replacement disc for you - any preference of brand? Lance B - Original Message - From: Volker Kuhlmann [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 10:47 AM Subject: Re: Red Hat 9 (Shrike) Does anybody have a copy that he could duplicate I can cut you a copy of the 5 CDs, including the updates up to a certain point. 1 DVD. Permissable is a non-issue. Volker -- Volker Kuhlmann is possibly list0570 with the domain in header http://volker.dnsalias.net/ Please do not CC list postings to me.
Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage)
Sorry, I will also have to pass on this one. The whole of April is a no show for me. Maybe another time. Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: Dave G [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, March 22, 2005 5:53 PM Subject: Re: Gentoo Installfest (in Robert's garage) On Tue, 22 Mar 2005 13:56, Nick Rout wrote: A few people expressed interest in coming along to Robert's Rooomy Garage [1] to have gentoo installed.[2] I have it on good authority that we should have access to the 2005.0 release in time to do this on Saturday 9 April. So, can we have some confirmation of who will be coming for an install. So far I can recall (without wading thru the entire archives): Robert Himmelman Dave (gevad at orcon) Shane Hollis (?) Xhen (xhen at paradise) Lance Blackler Nick Co many thanks for remembering me for the installfest I would definitely have been a starter however I can't make it on Saturday 9 April as I'm I'm away for the whole weekend (Friday - Sunday) however if there is a change of date count me in (if poss) cheersdave garlick Mail to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kmail/Kontact KDE Desktop 3.3.2 SimplyMEPIS Linux - Kernel 2.6.7 (i686)
Re: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux
I have it now John, but if you want to try it by all means let me know since it was offered to you first. Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: John Carter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Cc: dave [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 9:03 AM Subject: Re: Howl!!! Urgent advice needed on Wireless Keyboards for Linux On Wed, 16 Mar 2005, dave wrote: i've got an old ihug wireless keyboard/set-top box at home here if you want it . That sounds interesting, is it still available? Why is it unused? (Sorry for the late response, I was off last week and keeping as far away from computers as possible) John Carter Phone : (64)(3) 358 6639 Tait ElectronicsFax : (64)(3) 359 4632 PO Box 1645 ChristchurchEmail : [EMAIL PROTECTED] New Zealand Refactorers do it a little better every time.
Re: Just got Mepis 3.3 - password assistance please
Linz lives in the North Island, but if you want a copy I can burn one for you. Lance B - Original Message - From: Wolf J Flywheel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Just got Mepis 3.3 - password assistance please No worries Linz---Make us a copy. On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 20:35 +1300, Lindsay wrote: That worked - thanks. I'm on the way!! On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 20:28 +1300, Wolf J Flywheel wrote: On an older version its demo for user and root for root. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Re: Just got Mepis 3.3 - password assistance please
Ah, sorry about that, my mistake, didn't realize we had 2 Taumaranui chaps on the list. Lance - Original Message - From: Wolf J Flywheel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Re: Just got Mepis 3.3 - password assistance please Thanks for the offer but Linz said he would get me one as we live in the same town On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 10:51 +1200, sirlancelot wrote: Linz lives in the North Island, but if you want a copy I can burn one for you. Lance B - Original Message - From: Wolf J Flywheel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, March 18, 2005 8:04 PM Subject: Re: Just got Mepis 3.3 - password assistance please No worries Linz---Make us a copy. On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 20:35 +1300, Lindsay wrote: That worked - thanks. I'm on the way!! On Fri, 2005-03-18 at 20:28 +1300, Wolf J Flywheel wrote: On an older version its demo for user and root for root. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana. -- Time flies like an arrow. Fruit flies like a banana.
Re: Mepis
I use it on most of my machines Robert. I have used 2 previous versions and like them all, but 3.3 is certainly very nice. I will be doing a presentation next month on it at the sydenham hall - all going well. Basically, showing why I like it, especially the Mepis specific utilities. Maybe someone could do similar for Gentoo sometime:) Lance B - Original Message - From: Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, March 15, 2005 12:09 PM Subject: Mepis Have many list members tried Mepis? I downloaded it (SimplyMepis 3.3) in the weekend and tried it on a laptop this morning. It installed in about 1/2 an hour and after setting up the authentication for our proxy server here at work and finding some http mirrors (can't use ftp here) Synaptic took care of the updates very easily. I am impressed. There are lots of packages included and it gives you a Debian system in a very short time. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
Re: Free to a good home
Well, my hand is definitely up - if it ends up being offered to members. I would use it to replace my rather flakey headless box hardware. This box lives in my garage as a file and print server etc. It is a scsi box with a number of drives. It's name is headless, login is chook ;) Lance Blackler - Original Message - From: Robert Fisher [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz; linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, March 11, 2005 12:54 PM Subject: Free to a good home We have just upgraded our server at home and our old one is surplus to requirements. I would like to give it to CLUG if someone can come up with a use for it (for CLUG - maybe similar to Craig's horse offering) If no-one can suggest a CLUG use then I will offer it to CLUG membership. I expect a wave of hands-up so the successful bidder will be chosen by me, if not by percieved need, then by ballot. The machine is a Compaq Professional Workstation AP500 Dual PII-450 cpu's 256 Mb ram CD Rom drive 1 x scsi drive (4GHz) - it did have 4 drives but we are keeping the others. -- Robert Fisher www.fisher.net.nz
Re: Tip of the day: Alt-. at the command line
Lindsay wrote: This 'greenie' wants to know what 'bash' is please. On Wed, 2005-03-09 at 09:31 +1300, Carl Cerecke wrote: C. Falconer wrote: You need to add This is a bashism somewhere in the whole thing. Actually, I think it is a readline library thing. Besides, nearly everybody using Linux is using bash. And if they know enough to choose a different shell, then they know enough to help themselves. Cheers, Carl. Plenty of info here about the bash shell Linz http://www.google.com/linux?hl=enlr=q=bash+shell ciao Lance B
Re: Warty install failed on machine with WinXp partition - newbie
Hi Lindsay. I have had similar error messages when using the original disk, but had better success when I used a copied disk. I think that the files are compressed on the disk and the problem occurs when the files are being read and uncompressed at similtaneously. I suggest that you try making a copy of the disk, check that you get no errors while the disk is being read. If you do, abort the process and try again. Since the files are not being uncompressed at the same time you will likely get an error free read. The fault is probably not so much with the disk as your drive. As Nick mentioned, you will need to format the partition as ext3 or reiserfs during the install, but it won't matter what it is before you start, it can even be unformatted, just select that partition and agree to let the installer format the partition. Hope that helps. Lance B - Original Message - From: Lindsay [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: CLUG linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, February 24, 2005 12:41 AM Subject: Warty install failed on machine with WinXp partition - newbie Time to get the feather out. We have two computers. I have been trying to install Ubuntu on the second PC which has a 10gb WinXP partition (c:/), a further 10gb FAT32 partition, a 512MB Linux swap partition and a 20gb Linux partition (FAT32) - originally ext3 but Ubuntu wouldn't use that for me in any way. I get part way through installation and get a series of errors messages (This is after five patient attempts at doing this and numerous retries when that option arises.) the errors are as follows: 1) |Install the base system| Base system installation error The bootstrap program exited with an error (Return value 1) Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for details 2) |Failed to install the base system| The base system installation into /target failed Check /var/log/messages or see virtual console 3 for details 3) |Installation step failed| An installation step failed . You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Install the base system. 4) Repeats of 1 2 |Install the base system| Installation step failed An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is: Install the GRUB boot loader in a hard drive. 5) 1 2 again |Install the base system| Installation step failed An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is:Install the LILO boot loader on a hard drive. 6) 1 2 again |Install the base system| Installation step failed An installation step failed. You can try to run the failing item again from the menu, or skip it and choose something else. The failing step is:continue without boot loader. Needless to say, nothing works - no Win XP, not dual boot load - nothing. I have tried various CD's and both CD Rom drives. Same results Who has some bright Idea's for a user of three weeks? Help would be appreciated Linz
Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays)
That's actually www.woosh.co.nz Lance - Original Message - From: goldedge [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: yuri [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Friday, February 18, 2005 11:40 AM Subject: Re: Rural Broadband (Was: UBS Broadband connection delays) Hi Yuri / Roger, checkout www.whoosh.com their wireless coverage extends up tp 50kms from CHCH I am just on the fring of their coverage area in Oxford. I am not sure that their modems are Linux compatable they do not state on their website ( of course) :-) The rates seem reasonable, for an extra fee (roaming charges ) you can be mobile as well. Regards Michael yuri wrote: On Thu, 17 Feb 2005 11:02:07 +1300, Roger Searle wrote: I'm getting angry just reading your email. I don't have any broadband options at my place (Yaldhurst / West Melton). I live at the other end of Roger's street here in rural West Melton. Within the next few weeks I'm going to call out the wirelessweb people to check signal at my property. Best of luck to you Robert. I've given up. Roger Yuri hasn't given up. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.300 / Virus Database: 265.8.8 - Release Date: 14/02/2005
Re: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays
I have an external 56k modem if you want to borrow that Rob. Lance B - Original Message - From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Thursday, February 17, 2005 11:12 AM Subject: RE: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays Does anyone have an ISA dial-up modem which we could borrow for our IP cop box for a week? Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Paul Swafford [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, 17 February 2005 10:53 a.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays
Re: 64Mb RAM
Knoppix can be started from a floppy, then do a hard drive install. That will give you a debian testing/unsatble setup. Or for a lighter wieght window manager version - supposed to very good for laptops try damn Small linux or Feather linux. Both can be started from floppy and are 64mb and 128mb respectively iso size. Lance B - Original Message - From: Douglas Royds [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 9:55 AM Subject: Re: 64Mb RAM Nick Rout wrote: On Tue, 15 Feb 2005 09:16:02 +1300 Douglas Royds [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a colleague who wants to put Linux on a laptop with 64Mb of RAM. Is this enough for a normal distribution such as Ubuntu or Suse, running Gnome or KDE, or will he need to look at one of the light-weight distributions? Both KDE and gnome are a little bloated for 64M RAM IMHO. But the solution, again IMHO, is not really to do with the distro, more the choice of desktop. SuSE's installer is probably configurable enough to exclude kde from the install and use something else. icewm is reportedly nice. Complication. It doesn't have a built-in CD (PCMCIA CD-ROM only), so he can't boot from the CD. I see that the Debian net-install can be started from floppy, but is there any way of starting a conventional CD install from floppy? === This email, including any attachments, is only for the intended addressee. It is subject to copyright, is confidential and may be the subject of legal or other privilege, none of which is waived or lost by reason of this transmission. If the receiver is not the intended addressee, please accept our apologies, notify us by return, delete all copies and perform no other act on the email. Unfortunately, we cannot warrant that the email has not been altered or corrupted during transmission. ===
Re: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays
A good friend once told me that rather than calling it good old common sense - it should be uncommon good sense - I thought it was quite insightful of him (he was quite an elderly gentleman). Lance - Original Message - From: Fisher, Robert (FXNZ CHC) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Sent: Tuesday, February 15, 2005 3:00 PM Subject: RE: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays A Telecom rep admitted to me this morning that the delay would not happen if I was with Xtra. They tell me that the wholesale UBS service has such an uptake that there are delays. He could not explain satisfactorily why the lot could not be ordered at the same time. Imagine telling one of our customers that we would not order a new machine for them until their old one was removed. The trouble with common sense is that it is not very common. Regards, Robert -Original Message- From: Eliot Blennerhassett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, 15 February 2005 2:53 p.m. To: linux-users@it.canterbury.ac.nz Subject: Re: FW: UBS Broadband connection delays Rob, I am a Telecom customer for both phone and jetstream. I am moving house to about 3km from here and can keep my number (not sure if that means its on the same exchange) I just called them to enquire about the delays and they say the changeover will all happen on the same day. So, the (anti)competitive situation will be put to the test in about a month. -- Eliot Robert Fisher wrote: The delay for the disconnection took 10 days after our shift and now I am told that the delay to connect at the new house is another 5 days. This is bad enough for our household to experience these delays but imagine if it was a business. I cannot accept that the orders could not be placed concurrently, prior to our shift, for any other reason than being anti competitive.
