[LUTE] Re: Thomas Campion

2010-09-28 Thread howard posner
On Sep 28, 2010, at 6:12 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: There is a _Traite d'accompagnement_ by one Francois Campion (1716), and there is _The Art of Descant, or Composing Musick in Parts_ by Thomas Campion published by Playford (1674). My guess is that you are seeking the former, which is

[LUTE] Re: Thomas Campion

2010-09-29 Thread howard posner
On Sep 29, 2010, at 1:50 PM, Sam Chapman wrote: The question is becoming more complicated: as far as I can work out, Campion published a Traite d'accompagnement (1716) and an Addition au traite d'accompagnement (1730). I think that the detailed descriptions of accompanying on theorbo,

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread howard posner
On Oct 7, 2010, at 6:55 AM, Martin Shepherd wrote: 17th C archlutes were indeed about 67cm string length and used gut strings for which the highest practical pitch was about a'=392 or possibly lower. It follows that the ensembles in which they played must have used these low pitches.

[LUTE] Re: Carbon strings + Titanium Nylon?

2010-10-07 Thread howard posner
On Oct 7, 2010, at 2:37 PM, Martin Shepherd wrote: The issue about archlutes with shorter string lengths is muddying the waters a bit - I was assuming that everyone accepted a differentiation (dating right back to Robert Spencer's paper in 1976) between liuti attiorbati (surviving

[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute: Jelinek's Two-part Invention No 3

2010-10-15 Thread howard posner
On Oct 15, 2010, at 2:50 PM, Stuart Walsh wrote: The piece goes beyond the three octaves of a lute so I had to do some octave transposition. The big advantage of 12-tone music is that nobody can tell. The phrases are very clearly marked and I didn't do any Baroque guitar-style octave

[LUTE] Re: dodecaphonic lute etc.

2010-10-16 Thread howard posner
On Oct 16, 2010, at 3:55 AM, Andreass Schroth wrote: Octave transpositions for example are also in 5- ore 8-tone music not so easy hearable. They're really very easy to hear in tonal music, at least in melodic lines. That's why this list has often hosted discussions about such things as the

[LUTE] Re: Lute volume

2010-10-18 Thread howard posner
On Oct 18, 2010, at 5:52 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: I've been told this by several different directors, too. (Theorbo: toy class. Stringing: synthetic and gut). Never believe them! After every concert where I've been asked to hold back, I've asked people from the audience whether

[LUTE] Re: Toccata

2010-10-18 Thread howard posner
On Oct 18, 2010, at 1:54 PM, Thomas Schall wrote: Hoppy plays it p-i-m-i-a-i-m-i (if I recall correctly) I hope not. I think you p-i-m-i-p-i-m-i. Kapsberger's instruction in the front of the book are pretty clear, if I recall: keep the same pattern, rather than arpeggiating bottom to top

[LUTE] Re: Ren Lute In My Life

2010-10-19 Thread howard posner
On Oct 19, 2010, at 7:46 PM, t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote: Attached is a Fronimo 3 file and a PDF for solo lute of In My Life Alas, you can't send attachments to the list. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Toccata

2010-10-19 Thread howard posner
Some of the posters are seem unaware that Kapsberger's Third Book was found a few years ago. Diego Cantalupi not only recorded it, but included a pdf facsimile of the book on the CD. Any theorbo player who doesn't have it already should start dropping hints with loved ones for the next

[LUTE] Re: OT: a computer question

2010-11-18 Thread howard posner
On Nov 18, 2010, at 4:37 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: it won't accept os9.2, so I can't put osX on it. You're sure about this? My old G4 (256M ram, 800 MHz, PowerPC g4 2.1 CPU) is running 10.4.11. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Lute repair and question

2010-11-19 Thread howard posner
On Nov 19, 2010, at 10:28 AM, jsl...@verizon.net wrote: Definitely get a strap, which will allow you to sit up straight Or stand up straight and walk around. I not played it in 4 years because holding it causes me back pain after 15 minutes. Any solution such as a strap or holder? I

[LUTE] Re: fret tying help

2010-11-23 Thread howard posner
On Nov 23, 2010, at 9:01 AM, Suzanne Angevine wrote: Here are my questions from that attempt. How do you get any sort of knot to tighten up with such a stiff, unpliable material? Should the place where the knot is going to be be worked to loosen it first? You can tie and burn the knot in

[LUTE] Re: fret tying help

2010-11-24 Thread howard posner
Suzanne Angevine wrote: My first observation is that all you who have done this a bunch don't remember how hard it was at first to get it. And my second observation is this. while none of you admitted to working the end of the gut a little to make it possible to tighten the knot well, I

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread howard posner
On Dec 5, 2010, at 7:23 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Travel back in time to the gallant era when such things mattered (just be sure to avoid Mozart, who once broke a shoe because he was stomping along so forcefully to the music) Well, no. As intriguing as the thought of Mozart stomping

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread howard posner
On Dec 5, 2010, at 8:53 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Lulli hit himself in the foot while conducting with such strenght that he got gangrene and died. There you have an illustration of 17th century comportment. But rather the opposite of what the listers are complaining about with EK. Lully

[LUTE] Re: C.P.E. Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread howard posner
On Dec 5, 2010, at 9:19 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Read up on the Ch.Burney account of C.P.E.Bach's own keyboard performance. OK, here it is: After dinner, which was elegantly served, and chearfully eaten, I prevailed upon him to sit down to a clavichord, and he played, with little

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread howard posner
On Dec 5, 2010, at 12:35 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: The video in question was not made for any audience It must have been made for someone to see. This was a professional shoot (with three cameras?), and EK could scarcely have been unaware of the closeup camera. That said, his gestures do

[LUTE] Re: Karamazov

2010-12-05 Thread howard posner
Alas, I was not clear, left out a word, resulting in tautology... On Dec 5, 2010, at 1:06 PM, howard posner wrote: That said, his gestures do seem to be part and parcel of his performing style, which is full of big, impulsive gestures. I meant to say big, impulsive musical gestures. i.e

[LUTE] Re: James Tyler obit

2010-12-06 Thread howard posner
The Los Angeles Times finally got around to running an obituary for James Tyler: http://www.latimes.com/news/obituaries/la-me-james-tyler-20101206,0,6461706.story To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: movement in ensemble

2010-12-07 Thread howard posner
On Dec 6, 2010, at 5:11 PM, Edward Mast wrote: Some time ago I read a book about the Guarnerius Quartet, one of this country's most outstanding and venerable string quartets. In it was mentioned that they didn't need to look at one another to know what each was doing musically. Seeing

[LUTE] Re: catgut

2010-12-27 Thread howard posner
On Dec 27, 2010, at 6:51 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: That's tasty food for thought to catgut integralists on this list, and a bite out of their ideal of authenticity. I already imagine Dan Larson chasing a suitable kitty, because Anthony Hind has just ordered a set. RT Morris'

[LUTE] Re: RV93 materials?

2011-01-03 Thread howard posner
On Jan 3, 2011, at 9:15 AM, t...@heartistrymusic.com wrote: 2. Would Vivaldi have written standard notation that a lutenist would then have entabulated according to the instrument in their possession at the time? A lutenist, particularly a lutenist capable of playing a Vivaldi concerto,

[LUTE] Re: RV93 materials?

2011-01-03 Thread howard posner
On Jan 3, 2011, at 11:17 AM, Eugene C. Braig IV wrote: Oddly, when Paul O'Dette recorded these years ago, he opted to play the leuto works punteado on mandolino. Frankly, in spite of the excellent performance, the solo line sounds odd in to me in that octave. Not so odd at the time, when it

[LUTE] Re: RV93 materials?

2011-01-03 Thread howard posner
On Jan 3, 2011, at 12:16 PM, franco pavan wrote: Only a word about the notation. We have hundreds of pieces for italian archlute from the XVIII-Century. All the pieces are written with the same notation used by Vivaldi. It was the common way in Italy to write the music for our

[LUTE] Re: New to the list

2011-01-13 Thread howard posner
On Jan 13, 2011, at 9:08 PM, Claudia Funder wrote: For last few days I haven't been able to turn the pegs at all. I've tried the heat/drying technique suggested but given it hasn't really helped. (Actually, I might try a hair dryerHmm) Welcome, Claudia. I hope you understand

[LUTE] Re: New to the list

2011-01-14 Thread howard posner
On Jan 14, 2011, at 10:16 AM, Roland Hayes wrote: So if you won't get a good turner soon, or if you're still afraid of breaking the peg, you could try this instead, or let your builder do it for you Of course, Claudia's builder would need arms 11,000 miles long to do this. To get on or

[LUTE] Holbein fret spacing (Re: Google Art project)

2011-02-09 Thread howard posner
On Feb 8, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: And the fretting is equally tempered, just like it was (and should be) in real life. I think not. I blew up the picture so that the length of the sixth course from nut to bridge was 47.72 cm (18 inches) the biggest I could conveniently

[LUTE] Re: TRe: Holbein painting - precision and accuracy

2011-02-09 Thread howard posner
On Feb 9, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: http://tinyurl.com/67aeck3 We do see that the pegs look the same, but the painting of the lute is much less If you mean the pegs on this painting look the same as the ones in The Ambassadors, try zooming in on the Ambassadors pegs. They are

[LUTE] Henry Williams, Manchester

2011-02-18 Thread howard posner
Do any UK listers know of a Henry Williams in the Manchester area? We've been communicating about an instrument I'm selling, and I'm suspicious that it may be a scam. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Henry Williams, Manchester

2011-02-18 Thread howard posner
, almost anything for sale, even posted in obscure locations, seems to generate bogus responses. Guy -Original Message- From: lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu [mailto:lute-...@cs.dartmouth.edu] On Behalf Of Ken Brodkey Sent: Friday, February 18, 2011 10:15 AM To: howard posner Cc: lute mailing

[LUTE] Re: Ed's birthday today

2011-02-21 Thread howard posner
On Feb 21, 2011, at 3:41 PM, Edward Martin wrote: Yes, according to Baron! I never have to tune again! Mattheson, I think. Happy birthday. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: German tablature

2011-03-08 Thread howard posner
On Mar 8, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: Now that I've mastered it (cough!) does this make me a real lute player now? Can I look disdainfully at those who have never tried it? Of course. Otherwise, what's the point of doing it? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Who got this gig?

2011-03-13 Thread howard posner
On Mar 13, 2011, at 8:34 AM, Christopher Wilke wrote: Doesn't this guy know that he's not meant to be heard, but only contribute to the composite sound??? It is always _very_ bad form for the lute to be heard! Yes, that's what everyone's always told me, even when I played solo gigs. To

[LUTE] Theorbo shipping within the U.S

2011-03-21 Thread howard posner
Wondering if anyone's shipped a big instrument lately, and has any recommendations. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Hej!! Hej!!

2011-03-21 Thread howard posner
On Mar 21, 2011, at 2:58 PM, wikla wrote: Only just one day after mine, poor JSB! ;-) But you look young; I wouldn't have thought you a day older than 275. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Striggio 40 part mass from 1599

2011-03-27 Thread howard posner
On Mar 27, 2011, at 8:38 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: Chris: Let's not be too hard on poor Striggio's and his choices for writing in 40-60 parts. Try it yourself observing 16th century norms of counterpoint and the handling of dissonance. Ron Andrico Indeed. The more voices in the

[LUTE] Re: Farre from triumphing court - text question

2011-04-05 Thread howard posner
The Oxford English Dictionary includes to fall short (It fainteth or straieth from the marke, if you aime further off), also to lose heart, be depressed, from about this time period. The sense here seems to be that he thought he should not be half-hearted in his gratitude. On Apr 5, 2011, at

[LUTE] Re: Mean-tone, or rather meannasty-tone

2011-04-08 Thread howard posner
On Apr 8, 2011, at 4:26 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: Here's Merula's Cappriccio Cromatico played on a mean-tone organ: http://www.youtube.com/watch?vÕ_bSrkEFXs It was so insufferable I had to turn it off halfway through. The second half was the best part. -- To get on or off this list see

[LUTE] Purcell lute and ensemble songs

2011-04-12 Thread howard posner
On Apr 11, 2011, at 9:01 PM, David Tayler wrote: Dear collective wisdom, please weigh in with your favorite Purcell song for the tenor range for my fall set. 'Tis Nature's Voice On the Brow of Richmond Hill But why the hit parade? You could probably find a gem by opening Orpheus

[LUTE] Re: help finding Respighi's source for Siciliana

2011-04-24 Thread howard posner
Try one of these: http://www.sca.org.au/del/ddb/music/caroso_spagnoletta_transcribed.pdf http://sca.uwaterloo.ca/~praetzel/phaedria/SPAGNOLE.pdf On Apr 24, 2011, at 11:52 AM, Julia Seager-Scott wrote: Hello all, I am a triple-harp player looking for the original source of Respighi's

[LUTE] Re: Gutsy Gaga

2011-04-26 Thread howard posner
Imagine how good these guys could be if they had heads. On Apr 26, 2011, at 1:13 PM, David van Ooijen wrote: I'm sure it'll be authentic one day, if we wait long enough: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J8CrDkOlhEI David -- *** David van Ooijen

[LUTE] Re: composition

2011-05-05 Thread howard posner
Very nice. Is there some idiomatic meaning to Die Gezeiten des Walden that the English Tides of the Forest doesn't translate? On May 5, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Anton Höger wrote: hi, for all of you who want to hear a composition of me here is a youtube link

[LUTE] Re: Robert Johnson

2011-05-15 Thread howard posner
On May 15, 2011, at 8:58 AM, adS wrote: By the way, Robert Johnson died on 18.Nov.1633. Is it too late to send flowers? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Baroque Guitar in Germany?

2011-05-16 Thread howard posner
Is anyone aware of evidence, other than Kremberg's 1689 book, for the guitar in German-speaking lands before about 1750? To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Baroque Guitar in Germany?

2011-05-16 Thread howard posner
Very interesting source. Thank you. On May 16, 2011, at 9:33 AM, Andreas Schroth wrote: I found this page: http://www.studia-instrumentorum.de/MUSEUM/GITARREN/QB/git_qt_dtsch.htm -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Speaking of citterns....

2011-05-27 Thread howard posner
On May 27, 2011, at 2:53 PM, Sean Smith wrote: Guitars in the early 20th century used metal frets and gut together, I presume. And in the 19th century. To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: My playing

2011-06-07 Thread howard posner
On Jun 7, 2011, at 4:24 PM, Stewart McCoy wrote: The words come and die have two meanings. If you're suggesting that come has an orgasm-related secondary meaning, I think you're centuries early. I'm pretty certain Dowland would not have started with Come again if he thought it meant have a

[LUTE] Re: My playing

2011-06-13 Thread howard posner
On Jun 8, 2011, at 6:36 AM, Catherine Arnott Smith wrote: Re: come in the sense of orgasm: One of my research areas is the use of obscenity to describe health concepts, so I happen to have encountered this question before. The OED Third dates this usage to before 1650 and Partridge's

[LUTE] Re: My playing

2011-06-13 Thread howard posner
The digital OED 3rd, however, gives this as meaning # 17, To experience sexual orgasm. Also with off. slang. and cites a1650Walking in Meadow Green in Bp. Percy's Loose Songs (1868) , Then off he came, blusht for shame soe soone that he had endit. [A1650 means the usage

[LUTE] Re: Bach and improvisation

2011-06-19 Thread howard posner
On Jun 19, 2011, at 9:41 AM, be...@interlog.com wrote: Is anyone aware of any good articles about Bach as an improviser - contemporary commentary, modern analyses of toccatas/fantasias, etc? Most of the contemporary accounts are in The Bach Reader, some of them in the Bach as Seen by His

[LUTE] Re: Bach cantatas with the lute?

2011-06-27 Thread howard posner
On Jun 25, 2011, at 2:44 PM, David Tayler wrote: For the Trauerode, if memory serves, you need some chromatic notes. When I recorded it I tuned my D to C and tuned a few chromatic notes in the long strings. Gorgeous music! Of course it could be for two lautenwerken. Bach had several,

[LUTE] Re: breaking point

2011-06-27 Thread howard posner
On Jun 27, 2011, at 4:34 PM, Leonard Williams wrote: This discussion of breaking pitch has me wondering: Knowing the breaking pitch of gut, can we use the rule of tuning a treble to just below breaking pitch to determine at about what pitch lutes were tuned historically? Not really. You'd

[LUTE] Re: Roman archlutes

2011-07-01 Thread howard posner
On Jul 1, 2011, at 12:32 PM, wikla wrote: 30 year old Pyramids on the 3 lowest basses - worn out enough not to be too loud and ringing. Don't you love those? If Pyramid starts selling pre-aged strings they could recapture the HIP market. To get on or off this list see list information

[LUTE] Re: A question about Bakfark's lute music

2011-07-02 Thread howard posner
On Jul 2, 2011, at 6:27 AM, be...@interlog.com wrote: Do it! My guess is Bakfark would have liked to have his music played with a few notes missing, or on open courses, than not played at all. And I guarantee you that no audience member will know or care, ever. Unless they have taken part

[LUTE] Gynocentricityness

2011-07-02 Thread howard posner
On Jul 2, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Monica Hall wrote: If there is such a word it should be gynAEcentric. cf. gynaecology, gynaeceum etc Ms. Cusick knowledge of Greek is evidently somewhat lacking. Perhaps she was writing in English. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Self-expression ?

2011-07-02 Thread howard posner
On Jul 2, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: In fact a public expression of feelings through the choice of c-minor for his Great Mass did cost Mozart his job in Salzburg. What cost Mozart his job in Salzburg was that he didn't want it. He insisted that he be released, and it took

[LUTE] Re: Gynocentricityness

2011-07-03 Thread howard posner
On Jul 3, 2011, at 4:51 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Or American? Do you refer to Gynocology in the States? I rarely refer to gynecology, regardless of what state I'm in, and I would definitely avoid the word in Utah, especially on a Sunday. I sometimes refer to my wife's OB guy. You might be

[LUTE] Re: Self-expression ?

2011-07-03 Thread howard posner
- From: howard posner howardpos...@ca.rr.com TOn Jul 2, 2011, at 7:01 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: In fact a public expression of feelings through the choice of c-minor for his Great Mass did cost Mozart his job in Salzburg. What cost Mozart his job in Salzburg was that he didn't want

[LUTE] Re: Gynocentricityness

2011-07-03 Thread howard posner
On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:13 AM, Monica Hall wrote: Which is American. I checked the Complete Oxford Dictionary on-line and all the sources it quotes seem to be American You seem to imply that if they're American, they don't count... Well - we all know Americans spell things in a funny

[LUTE] Re: Self-expression ?

2011-07-03 Thread howard posner
On Jul 3, 2011, at 8:18 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: That may very well be so, but a Mass does not have to complete to be a full-blown slap in the face of the ecclesiastical taste. And eccessive melancholy has always been viewed with suspicion by the authorities. Still is. I no longer know

[LUTE] Re: Gynocentricityness

2011-07-03 Thread howard posner
On Jul 3, 2011, at 12:09 PM, Karen Hore wrote: In mild defence of the inhabitants of that collection of islands with toes in the North and Irish Seas, the Atlantic Ocean, and that much quarrelled over stretch of water La Manche/The English Channel. Their venerable lexicographical

[LUTE] Re: What's the point to 'historical sound'

2011-07-04 Thread howard posner
On Jul 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: I have a smallish archlute to my own specs, tailored for 440 jobs and easy transport. Very convenient. You mean to say you have a largish archlute, too big to play at 465, where you ought to be doing Monteverdi and other Venetian and

[LUTE] Re: Mace

2011-07-17 Thread howard posner
On Jul 17, 2011, at 8:30 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: no, baroque lute requires a lot less physical labor: fewer notes, more space between them. Roman will correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe it's still the case that he's never played renaissance lute. To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Mace

2011-07-17 Thread howard posner
On Jul 17, 2011, at 2:24 PM, sterling price wrote: Just because the baroque lute has more strings doesn't automaticly make it harder to play. If that were true the piano would be the most difficult of all. If you try playing the piano using nothing but your right thumb on the bottom 44

[LUTE] American luthiers

2011-08-06 Thread howard posner
On Aug 6, 2011, at 12:15 PM, Edward Mast wrote: The only current maker whose instruments I have played and can absolutely recommend is Dan Larson, but I think his wait time is rather long right now. Others listed in the Lute Quarterly are Richard Fletcher, David Fitzpatrick and Ken

[LUTE] Re: Renaissance lute string length

2011-08-10 Thread howard posner
On Aug 10, 2011, at 1:42 PM, theoj89...@aol.com wrote: Take great care with stretching exercises of the hand!! I deal fairly often with musicians' injuries, and musicians are nearly as bad as competitive athletes as far as abusing their bodies to try to get better performance. Remember

[LUTE] Re: Besard duets once more

2011-08-16 Thread howard posner
On Aug 16, 2011, at 8:37 AM, Ron Andrico wrote: I share your puzzlement at how Besard could have been so careless, especially in his ensemble writing. It's puzzling only if you assume he had control of the finished product. He may never have seen a proof. In any case, the early days

[LUTE] Re: Renaissance lute string length

2011-08-18 Thread howard posner
On Aug 18, 2011, at 2:47 AM, William Samson wrote: We all know what happened to Robert Schumann's right hand when he tried to use some sort of device to pull his fingers apart. We don't, and he didn't. It's a myth caused by adding two and two and getting nine. Cordially yours, Howard

[LUTE] Re: Renaissance lute string length

2011-08-18 Thread howard posner
On Aug 18, 2011, at 10:52 AM, William Samson wrote: Incidentally I think I prefer the myth and it's much more memorable than the truth. Really? Would you still think so if I told you the truth was that an aardvark bit Schumann's right index finger? -- To get on or off this list see list

[LUTE] Re: Renaissance lute string length

2011-08-18 Thread howard posner
On Aug 18, 2011, at 11:03 AM, William Samson wrote: PS What was he doing to the aardvark? That could be interesting too. He was biting the aardvark, obviously. Aardvarks never bite pianists except in self defense. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: An article from today's Wall Street Journal

2011-08-27 Thread howard posner
On Aug 27, 2011, at 7:12 AM, Stephen Stubbs wrote: Just another example of the Social Justice experiment still going on in USA. Basically, Corporations are Bad. Social Justice is Good. The last major Social Justice experiment made it all the way into the USA Constitution as the 18th

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

2011-08-28 Thread howard posner
On Aug 28, 2011, at 2:29 PM, Garry Warber wrote: I'm thinking theorbo purchase... Where does one get a nylon theorbo 14-course string set? Never mind the strings; where did you find a nylon theorbo? I measured my 8-course lute strings, which went from 100cm to 110cm; obliviously too

[LUTE] Re: long strings?damping

2011-08-30 Thread howard posner
This discussion would make a lot more sense if posters explained what gut is being compared to. In some cases, it's overwound strings, and in others, it's plain nylon. On Aug 30, 2011, at 5:00 AM, andy butler wrote: Are there any players who reckon that damping is essential? Tympanists,

[LUTE] Re: long strings?

2011-08-30 Thread howard posner
On Aug 30, 2011, at 1:45 AM, Rob MacKillop wrote: However, from the dimmest corner of my memory bank, I think Mersenne (or someone else!) indicated the bass strings should have a sustain of 20 or so heartbeats [forgive me if I am getting this all wrong!]. How long that might be depends

[LUTE] Re: Bach 995 Prelude and Fugue

2011-10-11 Thread howard posner
On Oct 11, 2011, at 7:36 PM, JOSEPH CALABRESE wrote: My first attempt at a youtube recording: the prelude and fugue from Bach BWV 995. Recorded with a cheap stereo microphone plugged into a video cam (sorry). Piece still needs a lot of work but I thought I would share my initial

[LUTE] Re: BWV 998

2011-10-19 Thread howard posner
On Oct 19, 2011, at 2:09 AM, William Samson wrote: I have heard that 'luth o cembal' was perhaps a keyboard instrument that sounded like a lute - I've even heard it suggested that it was a harpsichord strung in gut, but I very much doubt the feasibility of such an instrument - It

[LUTE] Theorbo humor in comic strip

2011-10-22 Thread howard posner
If your paper doesn't have 9 Chickweed Lane you can catch the October 21 strip here: http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane/2011/10/22 It isn't the first time the lute family has appeared in it. To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Theorbo humor in comic strip

2011-10-22 Thread howard posner
I meant October 22, obviously. On Oct 22, 2011, at 5:09 PM, howard posner wrote: If your paper doesn't have 9 Chickweed Lane you can catch the October 21 strip here: http://www.gocomics.com/9chickweedlane/2011/10/22 It isn't the first time the lute family has appeared

[LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente

2011-11-04 Thread howard posner
On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:29 PM, William Samson wrote: Wasn't it Pascal who wrote Sorry this letter is so long - I didn't have time to make it shorter. Reverend fathers, my letters were not wont either to be so prolix, or to follow so closely on one another. Want of time must plead my excuse

[LUTE] Re: diatessaron/diapente

2011-11-04 Thread howard posner
On Nov 4, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Ron Andrico wrote: Not Pascal but good old George Bernard Shaw, who also reviewed concerts with a certain measure of wit. I've seen it attributed to Shaw, Mark Twain and Oliver Wendell Holmes, not very specifically or reliably. The Provincial Letters were a

[LUTE] Re: Apollo's lore?

2011-11-08 Thread howard posner
If anyone's being obscure, it's not Purcell. The poem is the 20th stanza of a French poem, La Solitude A Alcidon translated by the 17th-century English writer Katherine Philips, who published under the name Orinda. You might want to look over the first 19 stanzas. You can find the French and

[LUTE] Re: Apollo's lore?

2011-11-08 Thread howard posner
On Nov 8, 2011, at 12:34 PM, jsl...@verizon.net wrote: But isn't it really just a pun by Purcell on Apollo's lyre? Yes (and now that you mention it, I wonder if lyre and lore would have sounded more alike to Londoners in 1685 than they do to us), but a pun needs two expressions that each

[LUTE] Re: Palindrome alert

2011-11-10 Thread howard posner
Christopher Stetson wrote: It also has been declared by someone to be Nigel Tufnel Day, after the member of Spinal Tap with the special amplifier which has eleven. For the few who might not know the bit: Nigel Tufnel: The numbers all go to eleven. Look, right across the board, eleven,

[LUTE] Re: cold finger tips

2011-11-13 Thread howard posner
You could try the sound of one hand clapping exercise: thrust the fingers out to full extension and and then clap them into your palm. It's actually an excercise to strengthen an speed up the extensor muscles, but it helps circulation. So do jumping jacks, and drumming bongo-style on some

[LUTE] Re: Gut strings

2011-11-17 Thread howard posner
On Nov 17, 2011, at 12:04 PM, Monica Hall wrote: Light the end of one with a match. It will be obvious pretty quickly if they are gut or synthetic. My guitar didn't go up in smoke when I tried it so presumably they are genuine. Sigh of relief. I'm pretty sure that when he wrote,

[LUTE] Re: Buzzing [was Gut strings]

2011-11-20 Thread howard posner
On Nov 20, 2011, at 7:07 AM, Monica Hall wrote: . I prefer the simplicity of a 13 course Baroque lute; and I tell no one that I string my 6th course in unisons- direct violation of Canon Law.) A good many players seem to be unaware of such a law. At an LSA some years ago, when loaded

[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread howard posner
On Nov 23, 2011, at 12:22 PM, Monica Hall wrote: Sad indeed. she can't have been that old. She was 69 -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: Montserrat Figueras

2011-11-23 Thread howard posner
On Nov 23, 2011, at 4:30 PM, ml wrote: May I correct: she was born in 1948, so she was 63, not 69 15 March 1942, according to everything I've seen. See: http://www.gramophone.co.uk/classical-music-news/montserrat-figueras-has-died The Savall/Figueras website home page says In Memoriam

[LUTE] Re: Le Roy Dentice and Octave stringing

2011-11-25 Thread howard posner
On Nov 25, 2011, at 5:04 AM, Anthony Hind wrote: Mathias I have unissons on the 5th course of my 7c lute, but octaves on my fourth, but perhaps I have missed something. Only that your stringing is very unusual, if not unique. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Weird early chitarrone experiment?

2011-11-25 Thread howard posner
I'm looking for a picture of an early chitarrone which, instead of an extended neck, had an extended body with two bridges (by one of the Tieffenbruckers, I think). Can anyone direct me to one? To get on or off this list see list information at

[LUTE] Re: Weird early chitarrone experiment?

2011-11-25 Thread howard posner
On Nov 25, 2011, at 10:37 PM, Diego Cantalupi wrote: you can find a picture here, in my dissertation about chitarrone: Thank you, Diego. I downloaded your dissertation months ago, but with my limited Italian, it might have taken the rest of my life to get to page 38. The instrument is even

[LUTE] Re: Weird early chitarrone experiment?

2011-11-26 Thread howard posner
On Nov 26, 2011, at 6:51 AM, heiman.dan...@juno.com wrote: Pity that there does not appear to be a photo of the instrument on the website of the Kunsthistorisches Museum where it resides. Maybe they think it's an embarrassment. -- To get on or off this list see list information at

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-01 Thread howard posner
On Dec 1, 2011, at 2:08 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: why would you wish to transpose the lute part at all? I can claim no particular great expertise on the subject of transposition motivation, but could it be in any way possible (and I know this sounds crazy) that the idea of transposition comes

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight [was Re: A=392]

2011-12-02 Thread howard posner
On Dec 2, 2011, at 12:29 AM, Martyn Hodgson wrote: Have you anything constructive to add to the exchange? No; once you've told us that transposition is unnecessary because almost half the singers who'd want to sing the music can do it without transposition, you've said it all. -- To get on

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Male alto in Lute songs? was Transposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-02 Thread howard posner
On Dec 2, 2011, at 11:19 AM, Roman Turovsky wrote: And speaking of such truly accomplished singers as Karamazov: He tends to have 4-6 archlutes on hand, for various minute instant adjustments of performance. I guess that works if you have a large car and are very generous in tipping

[LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-02 Thread howard posner
On Dec 2, 2011, at 1:44 PM, Roman Turovsky wrote: you know of the community's unease of accepting ET. We're more accepting of it than Dowland was. -- To get on or off this list see list information at http://www.cs.dartmouth.edu/~wbc/lute-admin/index.html

[LUTE] Re: My playing

2011-12-03 Thread howard posner
On Dec 3, 2011, at 4:10 AM, Konstantin Shchenikov wrote: My friends and me have played a concert. Here is songs by John Dowland: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hcleEbnXqCM http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ycL4JaKHY6s http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AB54nH3Zac What do you think about it?

[LUTE] Re: Transposing lute tablature on sight

2011-12-04 Thread howard posner
On Dec 4, 2011, at 11:08 AM, David van Ooijen wrote: I've noticed some lute songs become easier down a tone. Particularly Morley songs. I always wondered about his songs - were they written a tone lower but publisehd a tone up? Remember that Morley did not play the lute. He said he had

[BAROQUE-LUTE] Re: Dubut and Jean Mercure

2011-12-05 Thread howard posner
For those who didn't get my highly erudite reference, try this: http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/d58d400423/spanish-inquisition-by-monty-python-from-greatest-comedy-sketches On Dec 5, 2011, at 2:50 PM, wikla wrote: What is that? Tell us more what you know of the Dubuts, Howard! Fear,

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