Re: LyX/Mac 1.5.3 released (for Intel, PPC, Universal)

[John Kane]

Thank you.  Just upgraded about 15 minutes ago.  

--- Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Binaries for LyX/Mac 1.5.3 have now been posted in
> all three flavors:  
> Intel, PPC, and Universal. All users of 1.5 are
> encouraged to upgrade  
> to this new version. They can be found here:
> 
>

>

>

> 
> (Early reports of installation problems on Intel
> Macs have hopefully  
> been fixed, and a new binary has been posted. For
> users of Intel Macs  
> who previously updated and had problems, there is no
> need to download  
> the new version.)
> 
> Bennett
> 



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Re: [OT] using open office

[John Kane]

--- Donn <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > Every now and then I get an inclination to try the
> more widely used tools,
> > such as OO (open office).  I am always stumped
> right at the start.  Where
> > is the template for something like a lyx or latex
> article format?
> Open the Lyx file in Lyx and simply *pretend* you
> are using OOO. :)
> 
> \d
> 

You need to build the template from basic Styles in
OOo.  Hit F11 and start modifying your styles. :)



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Re: Languages British vs English

[John Kane]

I'd agree with English (US) since it is not the normal
spelling that is used in Canada. Of course we don't
use the UK spelling either. :)
--- David Romano <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I would concur and weigh in in favor "English (US)"
> since British English 
> is more likely the official language of the
> English-speaking Caribbean.
> 
> David Romano
> 
> On Mon, 10 Mar 2008, G. Milde wrote:
> 
> > On 10.03.08, Liviu Andronic wrote:
> >> On 3/10/08, Phillip Ferguson
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>>  Why is there an English language option and
> British language option?
> >>>  What is the difference? Is this an American vs
> English English?
> >>>
> >>>  Could shouldn't these be label correctly as
> this is very confusing,
> >>>  as far as I know there is no British language!
> >
> >> What always perturbed me is that LyX actually
> contains an entry for
> >> the "American" language. Politically correct
> formulations (e.g.
> >> English (the US); English (the UK)) would look
> much nicer.
> >
> > Well, for me the names of the English variants
> were always
> > "British English" and "American English".
> >
> > My suggestion for the Document>Settings>Languaes
> list would be
> >
> >  English (American)   # or English (US)
> >  English (British)
> >
> > in a similar way to e.g.
> >
> >  Chinese (new spelling)
> >  Chinese (traditional)
> >
> > This way, the English variants are close to
> another in the
> > alphabetical listing which facilitates the choice
> by offering
> > alternatives in one place.
> >
> > It would also make sufficiently clear that
> American English is
> >
> > - not *the* English dialect
> > - not *the* language of the american continent
> >
> >
> > Günter
> >
> >
> >



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Re: Request for screenshots

[John Kane]

--- John Coppens <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>Ever wonder why legal pads are yellow(ish)?

Sulpher stains?  

Okay, I'm leaving.


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Re: LyX Without LaTeX

[John Kane]

--- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, Apr 9, 2008 at 3:21 PM, Bruce Pourciau
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Elbow problems have begun to make it hard for me
> to type a long manuscript
> > into LyX. I was thinking that we could install LyX
> (but not LaTeX) on my
> > secretary's machine, and then she could type the
> ms into LyX, perhaps typing
> > ff or something whenever there's a formula that
> would require LaTeX (so that
> > she wouldn't have to learn about mathmode stuff),
> and then after getting the
> > LyX file from her by email, I could open it and
> insert the formulas. Is
> > there any reason this might not work? (I'm running
> LyX/Mac 1.4.1 and she's
> > running Windows XP).
> >
> >  I would ask our IT folks to install LyX on her
> machine. Any thoughts on how
> > I can make this go smoothly for them?
> 
> Why not using a simple text editor on her computer?
> 
> Paul

You lose the rest of the formatting would you not?  

If 90 percent of the ms is "text" then Bruce gets 90%
of the layout done and just needs to insert a few
equations maybe some tables and perhaps inserts a few skips.


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Re: Editing Original Source Tex File

[John Kane]

You should be able to open any LyX document in any text editor. 


--- On Sat, 6/21/08, Mehmet Engin Tozal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Mehmet Engin Tozal <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Editing Original Source Tex File
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Saturday, June 21, 2008, 5:55 AM
> Dear Sir/Madam
> I am a new lyx user. I really liked the user interface.
> However, I'd 
> like to edit the source file of the document that I am
> working on. I can 
> view the source file but it is not editable, so I cannot
> add latex 
> commands to the source file.
> 
> I appreciate if you could suggest me a way to solve the
> problem
> Sincerely,
> Mehmet Engin Tozal


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Re: Excel graphs into Lyx

[John Kane]

--- On Fri, 8/8/08, Les Denham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Les Denham <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Excel graphs into Lyx
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Friday, August 8, 2008, 9:42 AM
> On Friday 08 August 2008, Konrad Blum wrote:
> > PS: The people who have the free time to learn a bit
> gnuplot might want to
> > export the Excel data into the CVS format, and use the
> gnuplot graphics,
> > which can use also jpg or fig or whatsoever...
> 
> You might also consider Grace, which (in my opinion) is
> easier to learn than 
> gnuplot.  The Grace (or xmgrace) format is accepted by LyX
> directly, and is a 
> vector format, so the results are excellent.

I'll add a plug  for R (http://www.r-project.org/)   R like gnuplot produces 
much nicer graphs than any spreadsheet program.  Unfortuately, it's not all 
that easy to learn but the professional appearance matches what LyX does for 
text.  Outputs in png, ps, jpeg ...

Here are a couple of examples of the possible output.
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/R/heartbeat.png
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/images/michele1.graph.pdf

See http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/ for some really sophisticated 
examples.


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Re: Test

[John Kane]

--- On Mon, 9/8/08, Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Rich Shepard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Test

> > On Sun, Sep 7, 2008 at 4:34 PM, npierre
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> If this reaches the Lyx usergroup please let me
> know.
> 
> > Yep.
> 
>The original message should have been, "if this
> message does not post to
> the mail list, please let me know."

Will all those not here please say so?

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Re: Word processor bashing

[John Kane]

--- On Wed, 11/5/08, Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> From: Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Word processor bashing
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Wednesday, November 5, 2008, 9:41 AM
> On Wednesday 05 November 2008 04:24:46 am killermike wrote:
> 
> > Obviously most word processors now have styles, for
> example. Ironically,
> > the buggy and inconsistent styles support in Open
> Office 0.9x was one of
> > the things made me investigate LyX. I presume that
> this shortcoming has
> > been fixed now.
> 
> :-)
> 
> Don't be too sure of that!
> 
> STeveT

They work fine for me :)  

Lyx gives much nicer output but it's often easer to use OOo because of 
interoperatabillity with Word. 

I've never figured out how to get Word's styles to work consistantly but that 
was with Word'98.


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Re: [Fwd: Re: Word processor bashing]

[John Kane]

> From: rgheck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: [Fwd: Re: Word processor bashing]
> To: "lyx-users" 
> Received: Tuesday, November 4, 2008, 7:19 PM
>I know a lot of
> people who use Word, etc, and I don't know a single
> person who regularly uses styles. 

I suspect that some do but in the documents I get, Styles use seems rare. It 
may be increasing with the new Word2007 toolbar layout. 

I still see a lot of this type of thing.
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/images/cvpic.jpg

This is from an academic CV of a fairly sucessful professor who in 8-12 years 
in academic as student and prof has never learned to use even basic styles, or 
any other reasonable formatting techniques.


> Speaking as a teacher, I often worry that my
> students are themselves much too worried about formatting
> even while they are writing first drafts, and this is in
> large part because WYSIWYG tools present writing and
> formatting as one thing and not as two.

I think you're right and not just for students.  Some Word documents I see from 
businesses and government are incredible Rube Goldberg documents that look very 
good but are impossible to modify.

> 
> For what it's worth, I do use OpenOffice Writer for
> some things, but these are mostly DTP type applications,
> such as a church bulletin or a news letter, and I'd
> probably be better off using Scribus (say) if I only I
> weren't too lazy to learn how to use it. 

Most OOo users would agree :) It's not a DTP tool. 

I use OOo all the time and once you have your own style templates set up it is 
pretty good and even handles large documents quite well but  it does not 
compare to LyX for really professinal output.  

For me, a strange but very handy use of LyX is to convert very badly laid-out 
working documents from Word to something in an article format. It immediately 
is several hundred percent more readable. Unless I have to redo some equations 
(not all that common in the papers I am coverting) I can get a nice clean 
readable paper in 15-30 minutes and can usually save a couple of hours of 
frustration that I would spend trying to read a poorly formatted document. 
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Re: Multi-column layout for multilingual documents (translations)

[John Kane]

ledmac/ledpar
http://www.djdekker.net/ledmac/

Parallel
http://www.tex.ac.uk/cgi-bin/texfaq2html?label=parallel

Disclaimer: I've never used them, I've just heard of them



--- On Tue, 3/1/11, Carlos Franke  wrote:

> From: Carlos Franke 
> Subject: Multi-column layout for multilingual documents (translations)
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Tuesday, March 1, 2011, 5:28 AM
> Hi!
> 
> I wonder if there is a viable way to manage multilingual
> (translated) texts in a multi-column layout with Lyx (or
> plain Latex). There might be a technical term for this,
> which I don't know however, so let me give an example:
> 
> I have got an edition of Beckets "Waiting for Godot" in
> English, French and German. Every right side contains the
> german text, while on the left there are two columns
> containing the english and french version, respectively, in
> a smaller font. Wherever one text hits the bottom of a page,
> the other two do a pagebreak as well.
> 
> So there are three concepts at work here:
>  1. Two or more texts (translations of one text) which
> correspond to each other in structure (paragraphs, phrases),
> so that the corresponding parts can be aligned
> automatically. The corresponding parts need to be marked by
> the user.
>  2. Fitting this in a multi-column layout.
>  3. Fitting this in a multi-page layout.
> 
> The third I do not need, but how do I achieve the first
> two? I am trying to use long tables now, which is a mess.
> 
> (English is not my first language, please excuse any
> mistakes.)

Re: Help me out of .doc

[John Kane]

Hi Hannu, 

I'm afraid I don't know enough about LyX to help.  However I had a quick look 
at it in OpenOffice.org and assuming it imported correctly, which it seems to 
have, it seems like a typically badly laid-out Word document.  I can see why 
any little thing could mess it up.

I think Ingar's suggestion is a good one.  

You actually have three page styles, 10 paragraph styles and four character 
styles in use in the document if OOo is reading it properly.

I have used both LyX and OOo to reformat papers and it's usually easier to 
paste the text in as plain text and work from there. 

 I don't know about LyX but if you understand OOo styles -- environments in LyX 
terms -- it would probably be a fairly easy job to create the needed styles -- 
if they don't exist -- in OOo ;and just quickly reformat the whole thing.  

In OOo you would need to understand the use of Styles> See 
[url=http://wiki.services.openoffice.org/wiki/Documentation/OOo3_User_Guides/Chapters][b]OOo
 Authors[/b][/url]

--- On Mon, 3/21/11, Hannu Vuolasaho  wrote:

From: Hannu Vuolasaho 
Subject: Help me out of .doc
To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
Received: Monday, March 21, 2011, 9:08 PM


Hello!

I made small edition to my final thesis in Word and now it looks terrible 
again. I want to get rid of it. I have more important things to do than keep 
document's layout in looking good.

I have been playing with openoffice writer2latex and lyx for several hours 
without notable success.

So could someone import this template doc 
http://edu3.tokem.fi/TIEDOSTOT/Tekniikka/Opinnaytetyon_malli_Versio_3_3_21_9_2010.doc
 to lyx and send it back to me if I ask nicely? That doc has three styles. 
Cover, beginning and the rest of it. Also appendices need one style more but 
I'll figure that out by myself when I get there. No header or footer and 
pagenumbers restart. I believe that's easy.

It seems to be too big task for a newbie who just read trough some tutorials 
and FAQs. Results should be quite similiar so that when the document is printed 
(or PDFed) you can't say which one is from real tool and which is from MS Word.

I
 believe after I have lyxfile to play, I can copy, paste and adapt to the rest 
of document. Or is this one of those things that I have to just live with and 
hate those who made computer "easy to use"?

Thanks in advance,
Hannu Vuolasaho


  

Re: LyX Promotion

[John Kane]

--- On Wed, 3/23/11, Liviu Andronic  wrote:

> From: Liviu Andronic 
> Subject: Re: LyX Promotion
> To: "Graham Smith" 
> Cc: "LyX Devel" , lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Wednesday, March 23, 2011, 4:34 AM
> On Wed, Mar 23, 2011 at 9:12 AM,
> Graham Smith 
> wrote:
> > One possible approach is to write an introduction to
> Lyx specifically aimed
> > at Word users.
> >
> This makes a lot of sense to me. Most of all we probably
> need an
> introduction for those coming from the world of Word
> (highest
> priority) and, perhaps, one for those with a heavy LaTeX
> background.
> (For the latter, we might simply recycle the existing Help
> > Tutorial
> > LyX for LaTeX users, but give it much better
> visibility on the
> lyx.org home page.)
> 
> If you give it some thought, the two are essentially the
> only ones
> that make sense, because there aren't really other types of
> newcomers:
> you are either already familiar with Word, or with LaTeX;
> else you
> wouldn't be looking at LyX in the first place.

Logic splitting here but I would be coming, well am,  from an SGML,OOo/AmiPro, 
FullWrite Professional background  and there still seem to be quite a few 
WordPerfect people still out there.  

Agreed that the majority of people are likely to be Word or Latex but not all,  
 

> 
> Liviu
> 
> 
> > This has been done for R at
> > http://chartsgraphs.wordpress.com/learnr-toolkit/ where
> the tutorials assume
> > familiarity with Excel and demonstrate how things
> differ (or are the same)
> > in R. There have also been similar things done for the
> GIS program Manifold,
> > comparing it against the Industry standard products
> from ESRI.
> >
> > I had a couple of aborted attempts with Lyx, because,
> as a Word User, I just
> > couldn't get my head around certain concepts (the
> concept of compiling a
> > document probably being the main one). I then
> eventually came back to Lyx
> > via SWeave in R, which introduced me to Latex, and
> then Lyx fell into place
> > and I realised it gave me an easy interface to Latex
> for every day
> > documents.
> >
> > A Lyx equivilant of the R tutorials would have been a
> great help.
> >
> > Graham
> >
> >
> >
> > On 22 March 2011 15:51, Rob Oakes 
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Dear Users and Developers,
> >>
> >> Thank you to both Pavel and Stefano for ollowing
> up with Google about why
> >> the GSoC application was turned down. Is there any
> way that I could help in
> >> that review? Stefano, will you be attending the
> IRC meeting to be held later
> >> today? I think it's very important that we
> understand why LyX was rejected
> >> as a mentoring organization, and I'd be willing to
> hep in any way necessary.
> >>
> >> While I have some ideas about why it may have
> happened, I think that Pavel
> >> hit the nail on the head. When I talk to people
> about LyX, they seem to
> >> think of it as a specialized academic writing
> tool. Basically, a program
> >> which helps professors and students write a thesis
> or articles. (To be even
> >> more narrow, it seems like many think it is for
> math and physics people to
> >> write a thesis or article.) Which is to say, a
> specialized program with an
> >> incredibly small user base and use.
> >>
> >> While that stereotype may be somewhat true (I
> don't think anyone would
> >> argue that many of the developers and users are
> within academics), it
> >> significantly understates LyX's appeal, especially
> if you consider the
> >> enhancements available in the upcoming version.
> From my own personal
> >> experience, I've found LyX to be the most capable
> pre-press/writing tool
> >> I've ever come across. If I were a publishing
> company or involved in the
> >> creation of any type of documentation, I would be
> looking  at LyX very
> >> carefully. It's the only tool that I know that
> allows you to manage
> >> collaboration, typesetting the final output, and
> target both electronic and
> >> print from the same source. With the recent
> explosion of electronic
> >> publishing and eBooks, I think that makes it
> *highly* relevant.
> >>
> >> Yet, I'm not sure that the wider community
> appreciates that. (Hearing
> >> Google's rationale for rejecting the GSoC
> application will help somewhat in
> >> clarifying how LyX is perceived.) Which really
> brings me to the reason I'm
> >> writing.
> >>
> >> Would it be worth trying to promote LyX to people
> who might find it
> >> helpful?
> >>
> >> We've talked for a long time about writing a LyX
> book, which is an
> >> excellent and wonderful project. But what if we
> first tested those waters by
> >> tackling some smaller projects first?
> >>
> >> For example:
> >>
> >> 1.) I just learned about a new open design
> magazine this morning, called
> >> LibreGraphics magazine (http://libregraphicsmag.com/). The goal of the
> >> publication is to help designers 

Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?

[John Kane]

I just installed tex Live 2011 on a small netbook Wubi installation of Ubuntu 
11.10. The new tex installation is in /usr/local/texlive/2011.

I would like to use it with LyX 2.0.0, installed from the Ubuntu repositories.  
Currently Lyx is using tex Live 2009 which was installed with the LyX 
installation.  I realise this is an old LyX version but one step at a time.

It looks fairly clear that I have to set some paths but just how to go about 
this is another matter.  Searching showed up a couple of ideas (see below). 
However Ignacio's and Stefano's posts assume some knowledge of Linux: I have 
almost none.

Possibly I can modify the paths following Ignacio's advice with a judicious bit 
of editing.  Ideally I could substitute /i386-linux for /x86_64-linux 
However I have no clear idea where to put it.  Ignatio's advice is to put it in 
.bashrc but so far, I have not found it.  Could it be a difference in ubuntu 
11.10?  
Currently when I do a tex -v I get:
TeX 3.1415926 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
kpathsea version 5.0.0
Copyright 2009 D.E. Knuth.
When I try to invoked tlmgr I get:
john@ubuntu:~$ tlmgr
No command 'tlmgr' found, did you mean:
 Command 'vlmgr' from package 'qdbm-util' (universe)
 Command 'rlmgr' from package 'qdbm-util' (universe)
tlmgr: command not found

Any advice would be most welcome.


Post by  Ignacio Garcia ( Sun, 20 Dec 2009) 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg79214.html

PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2009/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH; export PATH 
  MANPATH=/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/doc/man:$MANPATH; export MANPATH 
  INFOPATH=/usr/local/texlive/2009/texmf/doc/info:$INFOPATH; export INFOPATH

stefano franchi (Thu, 15 Sep 2011 ) 
http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg88783.html has another 
approach.







John Kane
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Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?

[John Kane]

Stefano,
My appologies in being so late in getting back to you. I just finally got 
around to dealing with this problem today (Saturday)

Your instructions for setting the path seem to have worked perfectly.

tex -v now gives me the correct version.

The only difference I found was that the path was
usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux/

Now to figure out how to get tlmgr to work.

Thanks very much for the help.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


> -Original Message-
> From: stefano.fran...@gmail.com
> Sent: Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:15:29 -0500
> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?
> 
> On Mon, Mar 12, 2012 at 8:07 AM, John Kane <jrkrid...@inbox.com> wrote:
>> I just installed tex Live 2011 on a small netbook Wubi installation of
>> Ubuntu 11.10. The new tex installation is in /usr/local/texlive/2011.
>> 
>> I would like to use it with LyX 2.0.0, installed from the Ubuntu
>> repositories.  Currently Lyx is using tex Live 2009 which was installed
>> with the LyX installation.  I realise this is an old LyX version but one
>> step at a time.
>> 
>> It looks fairly clear that I have to set some paths but just how to go
>> about this is another matter.  Searching showed up a couple of ideas
>> (see below). However Ignacio's and Stefano's posts assume some knowledge
>> of Linux: I have almost none.
>> 
>> Possibly I can modify the paths following Ignacio's advice with a
>> judicious bit of editing.  Ideally I could substitute /i386-linux for
>> /x86_64-linux
>> However I have no clear idea where to put it.  Ignatio's advice is to
>> put it in .bashrc but so far, I have not found it.  Could it be a
>> difference in ubuntu 11.10?
>> Currently when I do a tex -v I get:
>> TeX 3.1415926 (TeX Live 2009/Debian)
>> kpathsea version 5.0.0
>> Copyright 2009 D.E. Knuth.
> 
> John,
> 
> you definitely need to adjust the paths to the tex executables. How to
> do so depends in part on how you start lyx.  Do you use the command
> line, double-clicking the icon, or a menu?
> 
> I would first get the path rights from the command line and then move
> on to the (possible, not necessary) issues of aligning the command
> line with the graphic environment.
> 
> So:
> 
> 1. Find where the TL2011 executables are. Since the new installation
> is in /usr/local/tex, they should be just under it, either in
> bin/x86-linux or bin/x86_64-linux. Try listing them to be sure, typing
> the following in a shell (without the $> part):
> 
> $>ls /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86-linux/tex or
> $>ls /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-linux/tex
> 
> or you may try the "locate" command
> 
> $>locate -b '\tex' | grep bin
> 
> will list the files called 'tex' with the word 'bin in their paths.
> 
> 
> 2. Once you know where the TL2011 executables are for sure, change the
> path in a shell and check that the correct executable is found. Let's
> say they are in /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-linux. Then
> 
> $>export PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH
> 
> $> tex  -v
> 
> You should get the correct TL2011 version. if not, look back at step
> one, be sure you got it right.
> 
> 3. Now make your export permanent. You need to add the export line to
> one of the files that is read by your shell interpreter (most likely
> bash) when it starts. See whether you have a .bash_profile or a
> .profile file in your home directory (notice the initial dot):
> 
> $>less ~/.bash_profile
> 
> $>less ~/.profile
> 
> if you do already have .bash_profile it is better to modify that one.
> If you do not have it, but have a .profile, then modify .profile
> 
> Open either  file with an editor (vi, emacs, gedit, kate, etc) and add
> the line
> 
> $>export PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/x86_64-linux:$PATH
> 
> at the end (As a godd practive, put a comment before it, preceded by
> #. Something like "# Added by John to access texlive 2011 on
> 3/12/2012')
> 
> Save the file, close the shell (the terminal window), open another
> shell (terminal window) and try the 'tex -v' command. You should get
> the right version.
> 
> 4. Now start lyx from that shell (just type lyx at the prompt),
> reconfigure (Tools>>Reconfigure), exit lyx, and restart it. Check the
> tex installation with Tools>>TeX Information, and clcik the check box
> that says "Show path". If everythong is correct you should see a long
> list of latex classes and other files all with the
> /usr/local/texlive/2011 prefix.
> 
> 5. Now you are all set for the command line. For the graphic
> environment. If you use KDE, s

Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?

[John Kane]

Thanks for the reply.

So far what I have is:

john@ubuntu:~$ tlmgr
 /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux/tlmgr: missing action; try --help if 
you need it.

john@ubuntu:~$ which tlmgr
/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux/tlmgr

And strangely enough this works

john@ubuntu:~$ tlmgr --gui
Loading local TeX Live Database
This may take some time, please wait!
You don't have permission to change the installation in any way, specifically, 
the directory /usr/local/texlive/2011/tlpkg/ is not writable.
Please run this program as administrator, or contact your local admin.
Completed.

I get a gui interface,and can access a repository  but with no update rights.  
Okay this makes sense,, clearly I need root privileges but

john@ubuntu:~$ sudo tlmgr --gui
[sudo] password for john: 
sudo: tlmgr: command not found

Probably I just need another way to be root.  Since I'm the only user I would 
have thought sudo would work but I really am a newbie at Linux.


John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


> -Original Message-
> From: stefano.fran...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sat, 17 Mar 2012 18:07:09 -0500
> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?
> 
> On Sat, Mar 17, 2012 at 10:03 AM, John Kane <jrkrid...@inbox.com> wrote:
>> Now to figure out how to get tlmgr to work.
> 
> Hmm, do you have it in your path? I mean, what happens if you just
> type tlmgr at the prompt, or, "which tlmgr" (at the prompt?
> 
> If you don't then look for it on your system (with, e.g. "locate
> tlmgr") and add the path wth the same procedure as before.
> 
> If,, on the oter hand, it is already on your path, then "tlmgr --gui"
> should start it. You may have to install tcl/tk (which tlmgr uses for
> the gui) if it is not on our system already.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano
> 
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Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?

[John Kane]

Have not tried to update yet but your hack seems to have worked.  

I'll have a look at that link for the path discussionm

Thanks very much.

John Kane
Kingston ON Canada


> -Original Message-
> From: stefano.fran...@gmail.com
> Sent: Sun, 18 Mar 2012 09:35:53 -0500
> To: jrkrid...@inbox.com
> Subject: Re: Ubuntu -tex live 2011 set paths?
> 
>> john@ubuntu:~$ sudo tlmgr --gui
>> [sudo] password for john:
>> sudo: tlmgr: command not found
>> 
>> Probably I just need another way to be root.  Since I'm the only user I
>> would have thought sudo would work but I really am a newbie at Linux.
>> 
> 
> You used the correct sudo command. The message you got  just means
> that tlmgr is not on the path of the sudo  user, even though it is on
> your own path. This is an issue with Ubuntu, if I remember correctly,
> and with the way Ubuntu manages security precautions with sudo. There
> is a (not very recent) discussion here:
> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/257616/sudo-changes-path-why.
> 
> But as a quick hack: call tlmgr with the full path in front:
> 
> $>sudo /usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux/tlmgr --gui
> 
> it should work.
> 
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Stefano
> 
> 
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OT? upgrading Texlive to work with LyX 2.0.2. Paths problem

[John Kane]

 
I am trying to upgrade
from TexLive 2009 to TexLive 2011 on Ubuntu 12.04 to use with LyX
2.0.2. Ubuntu's repositories have only the 2009 package.

Working on a ASUS X53U
64 bit machine, dual boot with Windows 7


I managed to get 2011
working on Ubuntu 11.10 following Stefano Franchi's excellent set of
instruction at http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg91608.html

Unfortunately a power
surge took out that machine and I am now trying to get things back to
normal on the new machine

The story so far:

Removed TexLive 2009
using Synaptic Package Manager.

Downloaded and unpacked install-tl-unx.tar.gz
Ran install-tl :  Installation appeared to be successful

john@john-K53U:~$ ls 
/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin 
i386-linux 

john@john-K53U:~$
export PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux:$PATH 

john@john-K53U:~$ tex
-v 
TeX 3.1415926 (TeX Live
2011) 
kpathsea version 6.0.1 
---cut---
john@john-K53U:~$ 

I then put 
export
PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux:$PATH 
in my .profile and
restarted the terminal

john@john-K53U:~$ tex
-v 
The program 'tex' is
currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: 
sudo apt-get install
texlive-binaries 
john@john-K53U:~$ 


LyX shows all classes
unavailable. It reconfigures in about 2 secs!

Can anyone suggest some
cures or should I head for a Ubuntu/Latex forum or list?

Thanks

Re: OT? upgrading Texlive to work with LyX 2.0.2. Paths problem

[John Kane]

Cancel this.  I just did a complete reboot and Lyx is working fine[1].  I 
thought I had already tried that but I must have been mistaken.

1. Well at least it produced one document :)



- Original Message -
From: John Kane <jrkrid...@yahoo.ca>
To: "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Cc: 
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:28:59 PM
Subject: OT?  upgrading Texlive to work with LyX 2.0.2.  Paths problem


I am trying to upgrade
from TexLive 2009 to TexLive 2011 on Ubuntu 12.04 to use with LyX
2.0.2. Ubuntu's repositories have only the 2009 package.

Working on a ASUS X53U
64 bit machine, dual boot with Windows 7


I managed to get 2011
working on Ubuntu 11.10 following Stefano Franchi's excellent set of
instruction at http://www.mail-archive.com/lyx-users@lists.lyx.org/msg91608.html

Unfortunately a power
surge took out that machine and I am now trying to get things back to
normal on the new machine

The story so far:

Removed TexLive 2009
using Synaptic Package Manager.

Downloaded and unpacked install-tl-unx.tar.gz
Ran install-tl :  Installation appeared to be successful

john@john-K53U:~$ ls 
/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin 
i386-linux 

john@john-K53U:~$
export PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux:$PATH 

john@john-K53U:~$ tex
-v 
TeX 3.1415926 (TeX Live
2011) 
kpathsea version 6.0.1 
---cut---
john@john-K53U:~$ 

I then put 
export
PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux:$PATH 
in my .profile and
restarted the terminal

john@john-K53U:~$ tex
-v 
The program 'tex' is
currently not installed.  You can install it by typing: 
sudo apt-get install
texlive-binaries 
john@john-K53U:~$ 


LyX shows all classes
unavailable. It reconfigures in about 2 secs!

Can anyone suggest some
cures or should I head for a Ubuntu/Latex forum or list?

Thanks

Re: OT? upgrading Texlive to work with LyX 2.0.2. Paths problem

[John Kane]

Thanks again and thanks for the extra information.  Sorry to take so long to 
reply but I'm on a cycle tour and only the rain has driven me into a library to 
check mail.




- Original Message -
From: stefano franchi <stefano.fran...@gmail.com>
To: Scott Kostyshak <skost...@princeton.edu>
Cc: John Kane <jrkrid...@yahoo.ca>; "lyx-users@lists.lyx.org" 
<lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 5:24:16 PM
Subject: Re: OT? upgrading Texlive to work with LyX 2.0.2. Paths problem

On Tue, May 15, 2012 at 1:47 PM, Scott Kostyshak <skost...@princeton.edu> wrote:
> From: John Kane [jrkrid...@yahoo.ca]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2012 12:28 PM
>
> Glad you got things working.
>
>>I then put
>>export
>>PATH=/usr/local/texlive/2011/bin/i386-linux:$PATH
>>in my .profile and
>>restarted the terminal
>
> For the future and in case you are curious: .profile is executed when you log 
> in, not on each opening of a terminal. .bashrc is run on each new terminal 
> instance. This is why a reboot fixed it for you.


Well said. In general, it's  s good idea to run

$source .profile

or

$source .bashrc

etc., whenever you modify one of those environment-altering files.
That way you can test your changes immediately without having to
restart the terminal or rebooting the machine. Other things may happen
when you do that, and I'd like to keep variables to a minimum when
setting things up. After a while it becomes a habit, like running
mktexlsr after manually installing a tex package.


Cheers,

Stefano






>
> Scott



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Side by site footnotes?

[John Kane]

Hi,

I am not a regular LyX list user.   I still cannot get
 LyX to install properly :(

However I do recommend it at time to other people. 
Over on an OpenOffice.org form we have received a
question about placing footnotes in a horizontal line.
 Example at
http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=46374=
. Other than Bikkru Pesala madly complicated
workaround there is no way we can see to do this. 

Does it look like something petr0vski (the OP) can do
reasonably easily in LyX? I don't want to recommend
LyX to him/her unnecessarily but on the other hand
there is no sense in letting him waste time with OOo
if LyX can do the job. 

Thanks 

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Re: Side by site footnotes?

[John Kane]

--- Jean-Pierre Chretien
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> >>Date: Thu, 26 Oct 2006 09:21:08 -0400 (EDT)
> >>From: John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >>Subject: Side by site footnotes?
> >>To: Users LyX <lyx-users@lists.lyx.org>
> >>
> >>Hi,
> >>
> >>I am not a regular LyX list user.   I still cannot
> get
> >> LyX to install properly :(
> >>
> >>However I do recommend it at time to other people.
> 
> >>Over on an OpenOffice.org form we have received a
> >>question about placing footnotes in a horizontal
> line.
> >> Example at
>
>>http://www.oooforum.org/forum/viewtopic.phtml?t=46374=
> >>. Other than Bikkru Pesala madly complicated
> >>workaround there is no way we can see to do this. 
> >>
> >>Does it look like something petr0vski (the OP) can
> do
> >>reasonably easily in LyX? I don't want to
> recommend
> >>LyX to him/her unnecessarily but on the other hand
> >>there is no sense in letting him waste time with
> OOo
> >>if LyX can do the job. 
> 
> LaTeX can do it all right, and so does LyX.
> \usepackage[para]{footmisc}
> in preamble.
> 
> -- 
> Jean-Pierre

Now that was a fast answer :)  

Thanks, I was pretty sure that it could but wanted to
check. 

I'll suggest that the poster expose himself to the
pleasures and horrors of LyX.

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It works!!!!!!!!! I finally got LyX to install

[John Kane]

I have been trying, on-and-off, for months to see if
LyX would install with no luck.  However today I asked
a questions about side-by-side footnotes for another
person (thanks for the fast answer Jean Pierre) and
realised that I had not tried 1.4.3.   

I downloaded the Windows .exe package and it seems to
have installed beautifully.  Now I just have to figure
out how to use it. 

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Problem with APA and tables

[John Kane]

I am a new user and just playing around with LyX to
date.  I have installed LyX 1.4.3-4 with all the
settings at default.  

I seem to have a problem with the document class APA. 

When I create a table I am getting an extra column/row
partly defined.  I created a 4X4 table and I am
getting some extra lines on a fifth line.  See example
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/APAprob.pdf. 

This is occuring for both directly inserted tables and
for floating tables

The table is fine in the basic Article class.

Am I doing something wrong or is APA broken?  
I have noticed a few bug reports about it and have
duplicated the Two Author one (bug 2390).

Thanks

Window XP
MiKTeX 2.5 
LyX 1.4.3-4

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Re: visio drawings

[John Kane]

--- Valter Filipe Silva <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hello,
> 
> i already try to download it, but the link is dead
> :8
> Regards
>

Give it another try. It may have been a tempory
glitch. I just downloaded it with no problem.

> 
> Nicolás wrote:
> > OTEditor is your friend!
> >
> > Take a look here (under "Any"):
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Windows/WinGraphics
> >
> > Nicolás
> >
> > Valter Filipe Silva wrote:
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >>
> >> How can i convert visio drawing to eps for use in
> lyx ??
> >> I try e-pdf converter... is nice but is not free
> :(
> >> Best regards
> >>
> >>
> >> Valter
> >>
> >
> >
> 
> 


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Re: volume of rotation drawing

[John Kane]

--- Gunnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi.
> Not really lyx related but someone might perhaps
> know how to produce nice eps 
> drawings of a volume of rotation. You know the kind
> of picture you usually 
> find in your calculus textbook where the graph of
> f(x)  rotates around the 
> x-axis.
> 
> Any ideas?
> 

I don't know how to do it but you might want to have a
look at Paul Murrell's book R Graphics(2005) for some
inspiration.  Also have a look at
http://addictedtor.free.fr/graphiques/  ( look under
thumbnails ) for some ideas. R will export eps (or
ps?) with no problem.

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Re: Bibliography Style with In: for chapters in books

[John Kane]

--- Rainer M Krug <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> 
> An urgent last minute question:
> 
> I am looking for a bibliography style which has
> author-year citations in 
> text and the bibliography is sorted by surname,
> initials and book 
> chapters are referenced as: Chaptername. In:book
> information
> 
> All the ones I have found so far use book. Ch.
> Chaptername
> 
> Any ideas?
> 
> Rainer

If I understand correctly an APA style  will do what
you want but without the : The ref would simply read 
Kane, John (2008) Foof Foof. In Applied Dopology 





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Re: Newbie windows install problem "class scrbook is unknown"

[John Kane]

--- "Andreas K." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> yanni papastavrou <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > “Using the default document class, because the
> class scrbook
> > is unknown”
> 
> 
> Hi, 
> 
> 1. Open the MiKTeX Settings
> 2. Choose Package installation: Install missing
> packages on-the-fly: Yes
> 3. Then, reconfigure LyX
> 
> If this does not work, try 
> 1. Open MiKTeX > Settings
> 2. Choose Refresh FNDB
> 3. Then, reconfigure LyX
> 
> If this does not work, try 
> 1. Open MiKTeX > Update, and update MiKTeX
> 2. Open MiKTeX > Settings
> 2. Choose Refresh FNDB
> 3. Then, reconfigure LyX
> 
> Regards,
> Andreas

Just what I wanted to know since I am getting a
warning message for hyperref when loading the LyX
User's Guide but how do I find the MiKTeX settings to
open them?  Am I looking for something in LyX itself
or in MiKTeX?   
Thanks

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Journal in article(APA)

[John Kane]

I am using the article(APA) doc class Options jou
,(MiKTeX WinXP) LyX 2.4.1 

The class has a heading called journal that gives an
error but works when I use \journal{Journal Name}
in the LaTeX preamble (which the LyX error message
told me to).

Has anyone encountered this?

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Kill off a heading like a date etc.

[John Kane]

I am just learning to use LyX.  There are a couple for
useful doc classes but they tend to insert a date or
something similar when I don't need it.  article(APA)
is an example.  I would like to use it but kill off
the Author and Date. 

I know I have seen something like this mentioned in
the list but I don't remember how to do it.  Do I need
to add something to the preamble or add a TeX element
in the body of the document?

Thanks

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Re: Newbie windows install problem "class scrbook is unknown"

[John Kane]

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> 
> > 
> > Just what I wanted to know since I am getting a
> > warning message for hyperref when loading the LyX
> > User's Guide but how do I find the MiKTeX settings
> to
> > open them?  Am I looking for something in LyX
> itself
> > or in MiKTeX?   
> > Thanks


> In MikTeX.  When you installed MikTeX, it should
> have created a program 
> group in your Start menu.  To update installed
> files, run MikTeX Update 
> Wizard.  To install additional packages, run MikTeX
> Package Manager.  To 
> change options, run MikTeX Options.
> 
> /Paul

Thanks Paul,

Oh, obvious once someone mentions it.  I was poking
around the various directories trying to find an .exe
file.  

I have run Update and checked the Package Manager
which tells me that hyperref is installed. I have
reconfigured and exited - reloaded LyX.  It still does
not work (see
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/hyperref.problem.pdf
 for the problem and the MiKTex package manager.  

I can see hyperref files in MiKTeX in a number of
folders (i.e. C:\Program Files\MiKTeX
2.5\tex\latex\hyperref) however it apparently is not
loading.

Am I missing something obvious?

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Fwd: Re: Newbie windows install problem "class scrbook is unknown"

[John Kane]

--- John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Mon, 22 Jan 2007 15:41:57 -0500 (EST)
> From: John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: Newbie windows install problem "class
> scrbook is unknown"
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> --- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > John Kane wrote:
> > >> ARRRGH !! I see that it will appear in YAP
> > and looks okay when I 
> > >> run it with DVI even if something is missing.
> > Last year when I 
> > >> originally tried to load LyX I could not get
> any
> > classes to load so I 
> > >> never thought to just try dvi. I believe the
> > psychological term is 
> > >> 'learned helplessness'.
> > Thanks.  You've just given me a name for the
> > behavior of about 20% of my 
> > students.  ("Studied indifference" seems to cover
> > the rest adequately.)  ;-)
> 
> 
> This does not sound like a recommendation for their
> earlier teachers.
> 
> Learned helplessness
> "Lack of motivation and failure to act after
> exposure
> to unpleasant events or stimuli over which the
> individual has no control (e.g., noise,
> crowding)[1]. 
> 
> Individuals learn that they cannot control their
> environment and this may lead them to fail to make
> use
> of control options that are available. For example,
> animals exposed to inescapable electric shocks may
> later fail to escape these shocks when escape is
> possible"
> 
> APA Dictionary of Psychology (1st) ed(2007)
> 
> 1. APA has unaccountably left out maniacal math
> profs
> but I imagine that they will be included in the
> second
> edition.
> 
> 
> > >> The scrbook problem seems to have cured itself
> > when I ran a 
> > >> reconfiguration even before I updated
> everything
> > in MiKTeX. When I 
> > >> run a latex configuration it is there.
> > Self-curing problems are the best kind.
> > 
> > Cheer,
> > /Paul
> > 
> > 
> 
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Fwd: Re: OpenOffice vs. LyX

[John Kane]

--- John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Date: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 09:34:36 -0500 (EST)
> From: John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Subject: Re: OpenOffice vs. LyX
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> 
> --- Gunnar <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Unfortunatly I must also say that OpenOffice is
> far
> > behind MS Word. I'm trying 
> > to forget how to use Ms Word and OO, it always
> just
> > ends up in a total mess 
> > if I try to do something except just writing
> letters
> > and pressing space and 
> > enter for formating.
> > 
> > I hope you have learnt your lesson: LyX is always
> > worth the effort ;-)
> 
> Strange. I have been using OOo for about 2 years
> without any real problems and it has been a great
> relief to get away from Word. 
> 
> One of the big problems that former MS Word users
> have
> is expecting it to work in the same way as Word and
> while it superficially looks like Word it is not the
> same under the hood.  
> 
> I know of several books that have been published
> using
> OOo.  It works quite well but I suspect that if you
> know how to set up LyX properly it would be  as fast
> and better than doing the same thing in OOo
> particularly if you're writing academic or technical
> books
> 
> It certainly does not do all the things that Word
> does
> but the Word does not do all the things that OOo
> does.
>   
> 
> 
> > 
> > But I do hope that some day (in lyx 1.5 perhaps?) 
> > there will be a nice gui to 
> > customize styles/layouts in LyX. that will be so
> > easy to use so that even a 
> > person that never have used LyX can use it and
> > create stuff so beautiful that 
> > it would put MS Word and OO out of business.
> > 
> > Best wishes
> > Gunnar
> > 
> > On Tuesday 23 January 2007 06:00, Steve Litt
> wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > >
> > > I was considering switching to OpenOffice
> because
> > of the excessive effort
> > > in creating/modifying styles in LyX.
> > >
> > > So as an experiment, I began making a
> derivative,
> > in OpenOffice, of a book
> > > I originally wrote using MS Word.
> > >
> > > WHAT A MESS! Styles I created in OpenOffice
> > wouldn't stay created. If they
> > > stayed created, they'd magically change
> properties
> > from time to time.
> > > Numbers kept changing to bullets and vice versa.
> > I'm scared I'll be fine
> > > tuning this document every time it's edited in
> any
> > way, or even printed. I
> > > will NEVER AGAIN write a book in OpenOffice.
> 
> I have seen it done. It does mean you need to learn
> a
> fair bit about how OOo Writer works.   As a new LyX
> user I suspect that I would use LyX rather than OOo
> for a book and probably for major reports.  
> 
> However if you need a good word
> processor/spreadsheet/graphics program/decent
> presention program/fairly database for zero money it
> is a good deal.
> 
> I don't understand why you had missing styles but I
> suspect they were not missing as much as they were
> under a different menu item in the Stylist.
> 
> Bullets/numbers may have meant an buggy version. 
> Try
> upgrading to OOo 2.04 or 2.1 
> 
> Like any large program it takes time to figure out
> the
> idiosyncraces 
> 
> 
> 
> > >
> > > Yeah, it's tough to create custom styles in LyX
> > (LaTeX), but at least once
> > > they're made, they stay made, and always print
> the
> > same way. While writing
> > > this derivative book, not a day goes by where I
> > don't miss LyX.
> > >
> > > SteveT
> > >
> > > Steve Litt
> > > Author: Universal Troubleshooting Process books
> > and courseware
> > > http://www.troubleshooters.com/
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: OpenOffice vs. LyX

[John Kane]

--- killermike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Steve Litt wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I was considering switching to OpenOffice because
> of the excessive effort in 
> > creating/modifying styles in LyX.
> >
> > So as an experiment, I began making a derivative,
> in OpenOffice, of a book I 
> > originally wrote using MS Word.
> >
> > WHAT A MESS! Styles I created in OpenOffice
> wouldn't stay created. If they 
> > stayed created, they'd magically change properties
> from time to time. Numbers 
> > kept changing to bullets and vice versa. I'm
> scared I'll be fine tuning this 
> > document every time it's edited in any way, or
> even printed. I will NEVER 
> > AGAIN write a book in OpenOffice.
> >   
> I must admit that although I'm not a fan of the
> 'OO/Word is for morons' 
> style of promoting Lyx use,
> I did have similar problems when I started my book
> project in OO 1.9. 

IIRC OOo 1.9.x was not a production version and was
buggey especially with headings.

OOo is up to 2.1 and overall seems pretty stable.


> Styles and bullets just wouldn't stay set. I don't
> know to what extent 
> things have improved since then. I'm left wondering
> how these people who 
> claimed that they used that version of OO for
> serious work actually got 
> anything done.

Beats me but there are quite a few books out there
done with OOo including the collaboratively written
OOo documentation based on a well constructed template
and well defined styles.


> 
> It proved to be quite a problem because, after OO, I
> tried Koffice Word 
> which had some font kerning problems  that made it
> unusable for me. I 
> should add that other people claimed that they could
> still use it. The 
> versions of Abiword that I tried were also had bugs
> surrounding the styles.
> 
> In the end, it was probably all for the best as it
> led me to discover 
> Lyx and now that I've learnt Lyx I prefer this way
> of working.
> 
> Bit of a problem for Linux as a platform that I was
> unable to install a 
> fully working standard word processor though.

Time to give OOo another try. I note that you are a
Linex user.  A serious problem seems to be that
various distros tend to tweak OOo to their
preferences.  Recently there seems to have been a wave
of problems with the Ubuntu issue of OOo.  It is
always (almost anyway) safer to download OOo from the
official OOo site. 


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Re: OpenOffice vs. LyX

[John Kane]

--- deedee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I like LyX for complex documents because I can set a
> document up 
> and not have to worry about the fact that so many
> people who 
> claim to understand how to use styles don't bother
> to use them 
> with any consistency in practice with any word
> processing 
> software.

Then there are those who have never heard of styles
and tend to use even a word processor as nothing more
than an electronic typewriter.  I can remember some
consulting proposal deadlines where we needed to get a
half-dozen CV's into a standard format. It was faster
to have them reentered than try to figure out what all
the spaces were doing (tabs were too sophisticated). 
At least the CV's were not in Excel which I have seen.
> 
> On Thursday 25 January 2007 09:37 am, John Kane
> wrote:
> > Beats me but there are quite a few books out there
> > done with OOo including the collaboratively
> written
> > OOo documentation based on a well constructed
> template
> > and well defined styles.
> 
> I think "a well constructed template and well
> defined styles" explains it. 

In this case the styles and the minimal but useful
style guide was put together by a professional
technical writer who had already used OOo for other
work. 

>I've been using word processing
> software for literally a couple of decades, and
>frankly, the worst piece of 
> engineering garbage that I've ever had the
> misfortune to use was 
> MS Word. Even OOo Writer 1.0 ran circles around it
> (all released 
> versions of MS Word) for features and stability.
> Most of the 
> "features" people claim are in MS Word that aren't
> in OOo Writer 
> are really 3rd-party applications (and pricey ones
> at that). Only 
> the grammar checker and visual basic that were in MS
> Word were 
> not in OOo Writer 1.0. OOo Writer 2.0 is light-years
> ahead of MS 
> Word (even with the new "features" 2007 is supposed
> to come 
> with).
> 
> As someone else mentioned, you are likely to bring
> over MS Word's 
> problems when you import the file into OOo Writer
> and what you're 
> seeing are the problems that were in your MS Word
> document. 

I have managed to import a number of Word docs with
out  a problem but some imports are just plain ornery
and almost impossible to fix.  Plain text is about the
only way to do it. What I have found is that most OOo
Writer docs export to Word quite well though I
occasionally have had a problem with frames. 

As a new LyX user I cannot comment for sure but I do
think that LyX does look superiour for books and large
reports but for other works (say anything under 8-10
pages and that does not need a lot of math I'd still
go with OOo.

> Complex MS Word files almost never look the same on
> two different 
> computers -- even when both computers have the exact
> same release 
> of MS Word installed. This has been a constant
> complaint for both 
> the people trying to provide finalized documents for
> production 
> on MS Word systems other than their own and the
> people receiving 
> those documents. This is why savvy MS Word users
> always provide a 
> copy of the file in PDF so that the recipient can
> see what the 
> file was actually supposed to look like.
> 
> Check out the Authors' Guides for OOo -- there are
> versions for 
> 1.0 and 2.0. Getting lists and such to be stable in
> OOo Writer is 
> not a problem, assuming you set them up correctly
> for what you 
> want and assuming you adequately cleaned up the MS
> Word file and 
> templates you're working from.
> 
>
http://documentation.openoffice.org/manuals/index.html
> 
> deedee
> 
> -- 
> Registered Linux User #327485
> The Writer's Place, http://www.thewritersplace.com
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LyX 1.3.4-4 does not load, LyX 1.5 svn loads nicely

[John Kane]

I just moved to a new (for me) computer ( 1G ram,
hurray. My old one with 512K had died and I was using
a clunker with 256k. Still WindowsXP  but ... 

  I had to install a lot of my personal software
including LyX. I tried to install LyX 1.3.4 and first
got a message that it was timing out trying to
download MiXTex, Ghostscript and ImageMagik so I
manually downloaded and installed them and tried
again.  It worked but LyX refused to load.  

After about 3 trys I went and got 1.5 which loaded
perfectly.  Strange.

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Re: cannot reqd an old lyx file

[John Kane]

--- Mouras Harold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Dear all,
> I composed several days ago a lyx file butt am not
> able to read it on a
> new computer running windiws vista and the new lyx
> for windows. I have
> attached the file. Could someone help me ?
> Thnak you very much in advance,
> Harold

What version of LyX are you using?  The file won't
open for me either (Using 1.4.3-5 WindowsXP) but it
looks like it was created with 1.5

(From first line of file: 
#LyX 1.5.0svn created this file. For more info see
http://www.lyx.org/

and as of some time yesterday Uwe was saying that this
was a mistake in the error message.  I don't think a
1.5 version doc is supposed to open in a lower
numbered version.

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Problem generating PDF file with LyX 1.4.3

[John Kane]

Having accidentally spammed 3,000 or so R-help list
readers with this message I thought I might try
again,hopefully in the right list this time.

I just changed machines and, at first, could not get
LyX 1.4.3-4 to even load.  I tried 1.5 which loaded
nicely but would not give me PDF output.  Removed 1.5
tried using 1.4.3-5.exe. Result : On loading LyX : 
  lyx: Disabling socket
  cont class std::basic_stringhttp://mail.yahoo.com 

Re: Do you like justified or ragged right?

[John Kane]

--- Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I'm writing a short book called "Troubleshooting:
> Just the Facts". The 
> intention is to make it an Ebook that can be printed
> and staple bound by the 
> customer, if so desired. I use skip rather than
> indentation to separate 
> paragraphs, and I think I'll probably keep it that
> way.
> 
> Right now the body text is justified, which is the
> default in the Book 
> document class. Occasionally (maybe once every
> couple pages) something 
> doesn't fit right and sticks out into the right
> margin. 
> 
> It occurred to me that I might just make it ragged
> right, but smarter people 
> than me argue both sides of that question.
> 
> So what do you all think? Justified or ragged right?

It depends :)  I think that there was some research in
the 1980s suggesting that ragged is easier to read.  

I think, though, that it may depend on the width of
the paper.  I was having the devil of a time reading a
research proposal my boss had handed me. It is
justified and takes up almost the entire page. 
Margins  are only about 1.4 cm left and right.  

Out of frustration, I finally did a cut & paste from
Word to Lyx and set it in a two column format (APA)
which is easy to read albeit justified.   

I think the wider the text the more useful ragged is
since it serves as a cue to where the eyes are to move
left after reaching the end of the line of text.


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Re: Problem generating PDF file with LyX 1.4.3

[John Kane]

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> > Having accidentally spammed 3,000 or so R-help
> list
> > readers with this message I thought I might try
> > again,hopefully in the right list this time.
> 
> Might not be spam -- maybe one of them can produce a
> logistic regression 
> model to predict the likelihood of you're getting a
> PDF file as output.  ;-)
>

I thought it was a parametric problem.  No wonder I
have had trouble!
> > I just changed machines and, at first, could not
> get
> > LyX 1.4.3-4 to even load.  I tried 1.5 which
> loaded
> > nicely but would not give me PDF output.  Removed
> 1.5
> > tried using 1.4.3-5.exe. Result : On loading LyX :
> 
> >   lyx: Disabling socket
> >   cont class std::basic_string > char::char_traits ...
> > 
> > Removed and installed from
> LyXWin143Complete-2-9.exe. 
> > Loads okay but no PDF generation. My PDF reader,
> Foxit
> > Reader loads but nothing is produced.  
> > 
> > I have managed to produce a postscript doc and
> convert
> > it using Ghostscript. 
> > 
> > Could this just be a Foxit problem?
> 
> Possible but not entirely likely.  Can you load a
> doc into LyX and then 
> use File->Export->PDF (pdflatex) to generate a PDF
> output file (in the 
> same directory)?  If so, does it load into Foxit (or
> Acrobat Reader)?

Yes, this  works just fine.  And since I did that it
is working if I do the same from the View menu and is
calling up Acrobat even if I have not set it as the
default yet the file icon inidates Foxit and if I
click on the icon in the folder it opens in Foxit. 
Very strange indeed but at least I am getting some
fast PDF's now.

Thanks very much.

> 
> > As soon as I
> > figure out how to reset the Adobe to default pdf
> > reader I'll try it out. 
> 
> Regardless of what the OS considers to be the
> default reader, you can 
> specify a particular reader for LyX to use by going
> to Tools -> 
> Preferences... -> File formats, selecting a
> particular version of PDF 
> output (for instance, 'PDF (pdflatex)'), filling the
> viewer command into 
> the Viewer: field (e.g., 'acrord32'), then clicking
> Modify and Save.
> 
> /Paul
> 
> 


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Re: Problem generating PDF file with LyX 1.4.3

[John Kane]

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> > --- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> >> John Kane wrote:
> 
> >>> Could this just be a Foxit problem?
> 
> >> Possible but not entirely likely.  Can you load a
> doc into LyX and then 
> >> use File->Export->PDF (pdflatex) to generate a
> PDF output file (in the 
> >> same directory)?  If so, does it load into Foxit
> (or Acrobat Reader)?
> > 
> > Yes, this  works just fine.  And since I did that
> it
> > is working if I do the same from the View menu and
> is
> > calling up Acrobat even if I have not set it as
> the
> > default yet the file icon inidates Foxit and if I
> > click on the icon in the folder it opens in Foxit.
> 
> > Very strange indeed but at least I am getting some
> > fast PDF's now.
> > 
> 
> If you have acroread32 set as the viewer for PDF
> (pdflatex), that would 
> explain why View->PDF (pdflatex) now calls Acrobat
> Reader.  Otherwise, 
> it's probably the same phenomenon that causes your
> car to do strange 
> things until you get a mechanic to look at it, at
> which point it 
> abruptly sobers up and drives straight.
> 
> /Paul

I may have done that in the install, remove install
sequence.  How to I find out? I don't see anything
obvious about setting a PDF reader.

Car? What's a car? I ride a bicycle, mind you I still
get strange noises from it but the mechanic usually
can find an expensive cure. 

Thanks


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Re: Problem generating PDF file with LyX 1.4.3

[John Kane]

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> 
> >>>
> >> If you have acroread32 set as the viewer for PDF
> (pdflatex), that would 
> >> explain why View->PDF (pdflatex) now calls
> Acrobat Reader.  Otherwise, 
> >> it's probably the same phenomenon that causes
> your car to do strange 
> >> things until you get a mechanic to look at it, at
> which point it 
> >> abruptly sobers up and drives straight.
> > 
> > I may have done that in the install, remove
> install
> > sequence.  How to I find out? I don't see anything
> > obvious about setting a PDF reader.
> 
> Tools -> Preferences ... -> File formats lists all
> the file formats LyX 
> recognizes.  For each, you can specify a program to
> display it in the 
> Viewer: field.  (If the program is not on your
> system command path, you 
> can either specify a full path here or add the path
> to it to Tools -> 
> Preferences ... -> Paths -> PATH prefix.)  After
> adding a viewer, click 
> Modify and then Save.

Aha, I see the adobe path in PATH.  The viewer command
is simply PDFview.cmd . If I change the path will that
give me a new PDF reader?  

Thanks
> > 
> > Car? What's a car? I ride a bicycle, mind you I
> still
> > get strange noises from it but the mechanic
> usually
> > can find an expensive cure. 
> 
> A car is a replacement for a team of horses, the
> main purposes being to 
> (a) find a way to consume more expensive fuel and
> (b) trade methane 
> exhaust for carbon exhaust.  (A side benefit is that
> cars tend to leak 
> fluids rather than solids.)
> 
> /Paul

I take it you have not known a lot of horses?  They
leak solids and fluids (and methane too come to think
of it.  On the other hand petting horse is much more
rewarding than petting a car (or even my roadbike )


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MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

[John Kane]

What is the current approach to importing Word
documents to LyX?

I don't want to do anything fancy. I have some very
poorly formatted Word docs (working docs not for
publication) and I have found that simply cutting and
pasting the text into LyX and doing a bit of
formatting can save me a lot of frustration trying to
read poorly laid out pages.

My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for " (curly
quotes) and for some other things like an em-dash  or
the Greek letter pi. .  It looks like an encoding
problem but I don't see how to approach it since I
don't see how to check what encoding  LyX is using,
nor Word's encoding.

I also seem to be getting an occasional empty box for
a subscript in an equation but I can live with that
since  it is better to re- enter the few equations
with Lyx for better formatting anyway.

Other things like headings etc I can easily redo in a
few minutes but finding and replacing the ?' is a
pain.

Any suggestions? 

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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

[John Kane]

--- Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> > My problem is that I  am getting  a ? for " (curly
> > quotes)
> LaTeX uses `` and '' for opening and closing quotes,
> so you should be
> able to search and replace, in Word, for that
> (though there is a Smart
> Quote option or somesuch that you have to turn off).
Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I didn't
produce the document but a search and replace is easy
enough.  

> 
> > and for some other things like an em-dash or
> > the Greek letter pi.
> Again, I presume this is because LaTeX uses
> something different for
> these as well. If you search for these and replace
> them with another
> string of characters, which will not be replicated
> anywhere else, in
> Word then you can then search for that string of
> characters and replace
> it, in LyX, with the correct representation.


Yes of course.  Thanks again.

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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

[John Kane]

--- Daniel Watkins <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

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> >> Oh of course.  I cannot turn it off since I
> didn't
> >> produce the document but a search and replace is
> easy
> >> enough.  
> I'm assuming that you're using Word. If you don't
> disable the Smart
> Quote option within Word, it may well just replace
> anything you change,
> because it's being 'smart'.

No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
normally use OOo as a WP, with "smart quotes" off, but
I get some very badly formatted  Word documents for
internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put them
into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
something readable in Word.

Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but some
people have so few clews about formatting that
cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than it's
worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
problems very quickly and invisibly. 

Thanks

Thanks though
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Re: MS Word to LyX : Losing special characters

[John Kane]

--- Daniel Lohmann
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane schrieb:
> 
> > 
> > No I'm not using Word(well not if I can help it. I
> > normally use OOo as a WP, with "smart quotes" off,
> but
> > I get some very badly formatted  Word documents
> for
> > internal use.  Occasionally it is easier to put
> them
> > into LyX than it is to try to reformat them into
> > something readable in Word.
> > 
> > Normally I would just open a Word file in OOo but
> some
> > people have so few clews about formatting that
> > cleaning up a Word document is more trouble than
> it's
> > worth for internal use.  LyX handles a lot of the
> > problems very quickly and invisibly. 
> 
> 
> Sounds as if it might even be worth it to record all
> the necessary 
> Search actions and save them as Word or OO
> macro :-)
> 
> Daniel

Good idea indeed. 

Last time I wrote a macro was in Lotus 123 about 16-18
years ago but if I keep moving Word junk to LyX I may
have to do one again.  It probably would not take long
since it seems to be only 5-6 items consistantly.

Thanks

 


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Re: Lyx article on OSNews

[John Kane]

--- killermike <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
http://www.osnews.com/story.php/17373/Lyx-the-Multi-Platform-Document-Editor/
> 
> I wrote a quick overview of Lyx for tech news site
> OSNews. 

I enjoyed the article and have bookmarked it for
passing on to others.  

I was particularly struck by the paragarph: 

  "To use an analogy, often, when teaching someone how
to use a word-processor, it is difficult to convince
them of the importance of using tabs as opposed to
spaces. To the novice they are both equivalent as they
look the same on screen."

I had just finished looking at a 25+ page CV that we
need to include in a submission.  It was in Word but I
opened it in OOoWriter as a preliminary to exporting
to PDF.  I had a quick look at it and found such
things as 
you may see at
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/images/cvpic.jpg

Note the inspired use of tabs to the left and right on
the second line.

Luckily the doc could go as it was.  


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Bibtex question on URL references

[John Kane]

I have been trying to use JabRef to handle references.
 My first experiments have been fairly successful but
I am wondering how people handle a URL reference. 

For example I have a reference to a website ( see
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/burdett2004.pdf
)  and I don't see quite how to set it up in bibtex or
JabRef to work.  It is rough version of an APA format.


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Re: Bibtex question on URL references

[John Kane]

--- Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> The default BibTeX handling of pure-URL references
> is pretty lame. The
> only real solution I've found is to add my own
> format, or to modify an
> existing one you're not otherwise using. (That way
> JabRef will still
> handle the entry for you.) If you tell me what you
> want references of
> this kind to look like, I can tell you what to put
> in your .bst file.
> 
> Richard

Thank you Richard.  

Have a look at
http://www.apastyle.org/elecgeneral.html for examples
of what I would like to do.  

APA goes into much wilder details[1] but for my
purposes those two examples, On-line Periodical and
On-line Publication,would be just fine.  

1. The creator of Papyrus a great biblio system for
the older Macs claimed it was impossible to do a
complete APA style reference list without errors. I
believe he felt the system was a bit picky and
arbitrary. However the format is used by about 1,000
journals and is commonly used as the basis for a lot
of reports etc. And I grew up with it!




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> > I have been trying to use JabRef to handle
> references.
> >  My first experiments have been fairly successful
> but
> > I am wondering how people handle a URL reference. 
> >
> > For example I have a reference to a website ( see
> >
>
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/burdett2004.pdf
> > )  and I don't see quite how to set it up in
> bibtex or
> > JabRef to work.  It is rough version of an APA
> format.
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Re: (sin asunto)

[John Kane]

--- Jorge Mario <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> hi
> 
> i can't run my Lyx in winXP, please.
> 
> My Lyx 1,5 works well in my office, but it does not
> run in my PC, It 
> says to "Lyx no Started”, I can solve it?

Are you trying to run LyX 1.5 on both machines?
What operating system do you have at work?

When you say "Lyx no Started" did anything happen
before that?  Any windows open or error messages
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Re: Utility to help with importing text?

[John Kane]

--- Tad Marko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Howdy!
> 
> I have a few manuscripts in convering to LyX for a
> friend. They are
> plain text files. Are there any utilities that can
> help me with the
> transformation of the double quotes to a `` and ''
> format (or whatever
> format I should be using)?
> 
> Thanks,
> Tad

I have had the same problem and on a small text file I
simply did a "Find & Replace All" in my text editor. 
I forget who in the list suggested it but if the docs
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Re: LyX beta 2.0 on Mac

[John Kane]

--- "A. Scottedward Hodel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

>
> I want to echo the praise for LyX given earlier.  I
> I've used LyX in  
> lecture and they are impressed with the quick entry
> of equations,  
> promptly followed by a legible on-screen preview of
> the equations.   
> It's a wonderful tool.

Can you give some more information about this?

It sounds very useful
> 
> A. Scottedward Hodel, 334 844-1854, fax 334 844-1809
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> http://www.eng.auburn.edu/~hodelas
> 
> 
> 
> On May 18, 2007, at 9:27 AM, José Matos wrote:
> 
> > Public release of LyX version 1.5.0 (beta 3)
> > ===
> >
> > We are glad to announce the release of LyX 1.5.0
> (beta 3).
> >
> > Compared with the previous beta release we have
> fixed several bugs
> > and added some improvements, namely a new inset to
> support code  
> > listings.
> >
> > We have enabled the converter file cache by
> default.
> >
> > Internally we have renamed files to follow a
> consistent name pattern,
> > this will allow an easier navigation of the source
> code thus  
> > simplifying
> > bug fixing.
> >
> > Compared with the latest stable release, this is
> the culmination of
> > one year of hard work, and we sincerely hope you
> will enjoy the
> > results. The changes are too numerous to summarize
> in a few words,
> > with initial unicode support being the flagship
> among the new
> > features, see the end of this announcement for
> details.
> >
> > As usual with a major release, a lot of work that
> is not directly
> > visible has taken place. The core of LyX has seen
> more cleanups and
> > some of the new features are the direct results of
> this work.
> >
> > The file RELEASE-NOTES lists some known issues
> with this release
> > compared to the latest stable release (LyX 1.4.4).
> An updated list of
> > issues might later be found at
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/ReleaseNotes
> >
> >
> > In case you are wondering what LyX is, here is
> what
> > http://www.lyx.org/ has to say on the subject:
> >
> >LyX is a document processor that encourages an
> approach to writing
> >based on the structure of your documents, not
> their appearance. It
> >is released under a Free Software / Open Source
> license.
> >
> >LyX is for people that write and want their
> writing to look great,
> >right out of the box. No more endless tinkering
> with formatting
> >details, 'finger painting' font attributes or
> futzing around  
> > with page
> >boundaries. You just write. In the background,
> Prof. Knuth's  
> > legendary
> >TeX typesetting engine makes you look good.
> >
> >On screen, LyX looks like any word processor;
> its printed output  
> > -- or
> >richly cross-referenced PDF, just as readily
> produced -- looks like
> >nothing else. Gone are the days of industrially
> bland .docs, all
> >looking similarly not-quite-right, yet coming
> out unpredictably
> >different on different printer drivers. Gone
> are the crashes  
> > 'eating'
> >your dissertation the evening before going to
> press.
> >
> >LyX is stable and fully featured. It is a
> multi-platform, fully
> >internationalized application running natively
> on Unix/Linux and  
> > the
> >Macintosh and modern Windows platforms.
> >
> > You can download LyX 1.5.0beta3 here (the .bz2 are
> compressed with
> > bzip2, which yields smaller files):
> >
> > 
>
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-1.5.0beta3.tar.gz
> > 
>
ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/lyx-1.5.0beta3.tar.bz2
> >
> > Note that due to the amount of changes no patch is
> provided to upgrade
> > from version 1.4.4.
> >
> > Prebuilt binaries (rpms for linux distributions,
> Mac OS X and Windows
> > installers) should soon be available at
> > ftp://ftp.lyx.org/pub/lyx/devel/
> >
> >
> > If you find what you think is a bug in LyX
> 1.5.0beta3, you may either
> > e-mail the LyX developers' mailing list (lyx-devel
> @  
> > lists.lyx.org), or open
> > a bug report at http://bugzilla.lyx.org
> >
> > If you're having trouble using the new version of
> LyX, or have a  
> > question,
> > first check out http://www.lyx.org/help/. If you
> can't find the  
> > answer there,
> > e-mail the LyX users' list (lyx-users @
> lists.lyx.org).
> >
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > The LyX team.
> >
> >
> > What's new in version 1.5.0 (beta 3)?
> > 
> >
> > * Unicode
> >
> > LyX 1.5's big goal was to use unicode internally
> and so resolve a slew
> > of existing problems with special characters and
> non-alphabetic
> > languages. LyX 1.5 is able to output unicode (in
> addition to
> > encodings current available), so that you can use
> LaTeX's new utf8
> > encoding or such brand new typesetting systems as
> XeTeX.
> > Since the change to unicode touched much of the
> code base and some
> > areas still need a cleanup it is very likely that
> some bugs related to
> > the unicode transition still exist. Please have a
> look at the Known
> > bugs in 

Re: LyX beta 2.0 on Mac

[John Kane]

--- Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On May 18, 2007, at 7:23 PM, John Kane wrote:
> 
> > --- "A. Scottedward Hodel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >
> >> I want to echo the praise for LyX given earlier. 
> I
> >> I've used LyX in
> >> lecture and they are impressed with the quick
> entry
> >> of equations,
> >> promptly followed by a legible on-screen preview
> of
> >> the equations.
> >> It's a wonderful tool.
> >
> > Can you give some more information about this?
> >
> > It sounds very useful
> 
> LyX > Preferences > Graphics > Instant Preview.
> (Turn it on!)
> 
> Bennett
> 
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Re: LyX beta 2.0 on Mac

[John Kane]

--- Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On May 18, 2007, at 8:45 PM, John Kane wrote:
> 
> >
> > --- Bennett Helm <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >> On May 18, 2007, at 7:23 PM, John Kane wrote:
> >>
> >>> --- "A. Scottedward Hodel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I want to echo the praise for LyX given
> earlier.
> >>>> I've used LyX in lecture and they are impressed
> with
> >>>> the quick entry of equations, promptly followed
> by a
> >>>> legible on-screen preview of the equations.
> It's a
> >>>> wonderful tool.
> >>>
> >>> Can you give some more information about this?
> >>>
> >>> It sounds very useful
> >>
> >> LyX > Preferences > Graphics > Instant Preview.
> >> (Turn it on!)
> >>
> >> Bennett
> >>
> > Sounds good but I cannot find Preferences >
> Graphics
> 
> (Preferences > Look and Feel > Graphics > ...)
> 
> Bennett
> 
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Re: copying spreadsheet data into Lyx

[John Kane]

--- Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> How can spreadsheet data be copying into LyX
> quickly?
> I can't get Open Office or Gnumeric to do this
> easily.
> Surely there must be a better way than one cell at a
> time?
> cheers
> Russell
 I suspect that there are better ways but try
http://wiki.lyx.org/Tips/CopyTablesFromSpreadsheets
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Re: copying spreadsheet data into Lyx

[John Kane]

--- Russell Davie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi
> How can spreadsheet data be copying into LyX
> quickly?
> I can't get Open Office or Gnumeric to do this
> easily.
> Surely there must be a better way than one cell at a
> time?
> cheers
> Russel

Have a look at calc2latex at
http://calc2latex.sourceforge.net/  

A very quick and dirty test seems to indicate that you
can install this macro into OpenOffice.org and use it
to create a latex table.  Then just past the resulting
code into an ERT.  

I see that there is an excel2latex also but I have not
tried it (especially since is seems to say "now
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Lyx export to OpenOffice.org

[John Kane]

I noticed that there is an export option for LyX to
OOo Writer. 

I gave it a try and Lyx seemed to do something but I
don't see any output file.  Am I missing something
here? 

I tried a TeX export on the same document and it
seemed to work fine.

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Re: Fully contained lyx + miktex distribution!

[John Kane]

--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> On Sun, 20 May 2007, Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> 
> >>  Therefore, I suggest that there is a big lyx
> distribution in the form
> >>  of a single zip-file or CD .iso that contains
> really everything -
> >>  MikTex (everything) + Lyx + pdf viewer + etc.
> >
> > Note that neither GSview nor Adobe Reader can be
> shipped on a CD due to 
> > license restrictions.
> 
> Are there any alternatives to these for Windows?

Adobe > Foxit @ 
http://www.foxitsoftware.com/pdf/rd_intro.php but
again probably not distributable


> 
> /Christian
> 
> -- 
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Installing lettrine.sty - corrupt remote site/

[John Kane]

Something tells me that this
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/corrupt.lettine.jpg
is not a good sign. Is my computer the remote site?

Using 1.4.3-5 on Windows XP


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Re: Installing lettrine.sty - corrupt remote site/

[John Kane]

Whewww,  thanks
--- Julio Rojas <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Nope, the remote site is the selected repository.
> 
> On 6/12/07, John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >
> > Something tells me that this
> >
>
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/corrupt.lettine.jpg
> > is not a good sign. Is my computer the remote
> site?
> >
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Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.

[John Kane]

Someone in an OOo forum recommended a PDF reader
called PDF-Viewer
http://www.docu-track.com/?act[69]=download  (Windows
only I believe)

I gave it a try and it is very nice, far superior to
Acrobat reader.  However with both installed and
PDF-Viewer as default I find that LyX does not create
a pdf. No errors, no warnings, no file. 

 At least, that is the only change to my system that I
can think of, and returning to Acrobat as default
reader makes everything work. 

Should changing the default reader make such a
difference?

Thanks

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Re: Problem with PDF output with different pdf reader.

[John Kane]

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> > Someone in an OOo forum recommended a PDF reader
> > called PDF-Viewer
> > http://www.docu-track.com/?act[69]=download 
> (Windows
> > only I believe)
> > 
> > I gave it a try and it is very nice, far superior
> to
> > Acrobat reader.  However with both installed and
> > PDF-Viewer as default I find that LyX does not
> create
> > a pdf. No errors, no warnings, no file. 
> > 
> >  At least, that is the only change to my system
> that I
> > can think of, and returning to Acrobat as default
> > reader makes everything work. 
> > 
> > Should changing the default reader make such a
> > difference?
> > 
> 
> Does this mean that the *first* time yoiu try View
> -> PDF (whatever) you 
> get a silent failure, or only when you do an update
> to a doc you've  already viewed? 

First time.  

Your instructions to change PDFview.cmd to "auto" 
works perfectly with no need to change Paths.

Thank you .

 (The rest of the thread seems to be
> headed in the 
> latter direction.)  If it fails on the first try, go
> to Tools -> 
> Preferences... -> File formats -> PDF (pdflatex)
> [you'll need to repeat 
> this for each type of PDF export you use], and look
> in the viewer field. 
>   If it says 'pdfview', try changing it to 'auto'
> (if you've installed 
> PDF-Viewer as the Windows default for PDF files) or
> else change it to 
> the name of the PDF-Viewer executable (and probably
> add the path to 
> PDF-Viewer to Tools -> Preferences... -> Paths ->
> PATH prefix to be safe).
> 
> PDFView is a work-around to circumvent the file lock
> that Acrobat Reader 
> slaps on your output file (which prevents updating
> the view).  I'm not 
> positive, but I think it's hard-coded to use
> Acrobat, in the sense that 
> it looks for a window named "Acrobat" or "Acrobat
> Reader" to close/reopen.
> 
> HTH,
> Paul
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Re: Bibtex/Citations: number of authors

[John Kane]

--- Maria Gouskova <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > No. You would need to modify your .bst file,
> whichever one you are
> > using, to do this. This is not for the faint of
> heart. But look at the
> > btxhak.dvi BibTeX documentation if you really want
> to do it.
> 
> For the faint of heart, custom-bib is an application
> that allows one
> to change some things about natbib bst files.
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/HumanitiesLyX#bibliographies
> http://wiki.lyx.org/BibTeX/Background
> 
> Alternatively, look for a .bst file that already has
> the properties
> you want. There are a few files linked from the wiki
> pages.
> 
> Maria

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Re: LyX vs. Scribus

[John Kane]

I have only had a quick look at it but it is a desktop
publishing program like the old pagemaker.  As far as
I could see it was designed to take existing text and
images and produce a nice output.  It seems to handle
linked frames, call-outs etc well.  

LyX and Scribus are almost completely different
animals.  One is a text processing program, the other
a page layout program.  I would hestiate to use LyX to
publish the local club newsletter and would not use
Scribus to produce a mathmatical textbook.

--- Steve Litt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Hi all,
> 
> I've just heard about a program called Scribus,
> which supposedly is a page 
> layout program and not a wordprocessing program. The
> program's web page is at 
> http://www.scribus.net/. 
> 
> I'm not familiar with Scribus. Can someone tell me
> the differences between LyX 
> and Scribus?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SteveT
> 
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Re: apa styles and the dreaded (?.?)

[John Kane]

Anybody?
--- John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I cannot seem to get article(apa) to produce proper
> citations.  I have tried what seems to be any
> possible
> combination of Bibliography > Citation Style, and
> BibTeX Style available and either I generate the
> infamous (?.?) or, else, some kind of error message.
> I
> have also tried adding 
> \usepackage{apacite} 
> and
> \usepackage{babel}
> \usepackage{apacite}
> to the LaTex Preamble with no luck.  
> 
> When I get the (?,?) the actual references look just
> fine.
> 
> I have attached the LyX file and sample bibliography
> file that I have been using. 
> 
> Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: apa styles and the dreaded (?.?)

[John Kane]

So it does.  I thought that I had tried that about 6
times.  I have no idea what I was doing wrong. 

Thanks very much.  


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> You don't have the "Natbib" option with style
> "Author, year" selected in the 
> Document|Setting|Bibliography menu.
> 
> The references show fine with this set.
> 
> Mateo.
> 
> 
> On Saturday 04 August 2007 22:04, John Kane wrote:
> > I cannot seem to get article(apa) to produce
> proper
> > citations.  I have tried what seems to be any
> possible
> > combination of Bibliography > Citation Style, and
> > BibTeX Style available and either I generate the
> > infamous (?.?) or, else, some kind of error
> message. I
> > have also tried adding
> > \usepackage{apacite}
> > and
> > \usepackage{babel}
> > \usepackage{apacite}
> > to the LaTex Preamble with no luck.
> >
> > When I get the (?,?) the actual references look
> just
> > fine.
> >
> > I have attached the LyX file and sample
> bibliography
> > file that I have been using.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: apa styles and the dreaded (?.?)

[John Kane]

Thanks Richard.  

It looks like Mateo had the simple answer.  I thought
I had used that option before. Come to think of it I
just did a complete registry clean etc. I may have
cured something while doing that. Love Windows. :)


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> John Kane wrote:
> > Anybody?
> >   
> I don't use apa so can't debug this, but here is
> what I'd do: Export to 
> LaTeX, and then run the usual LaTeX chain on the
> file manually: latex 
> file, bibtex file, latex file, latex file. Somewhere
> along the way, 
> you'll get some error messages, I'd assume. Post
> them here if you don't 
> understand them.
> 
> Richard
> > --- John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> I cannot seem to get article(apa) to produce
> proper
> >> citations.  I have tried what seems to be any
> >> possible
> >> combination of Bibliography > Citation Style, and
> >> BibTeX Style available and either I generate the
> >> infamous (?.?) or, else, some kind of error
> message.
> >> I
> >> have also tried adding 
> >> \usepackage{apacite} 
> >> and
> >> \usepackage{babel}
> >> \usepackage{apacite}
> >> to the LaTex Preamble with no luck.  
> >>
> >> When I get the (?,?) the actual references look
> just
> >> fine.
> >>
> >> I have attached the LyX file and sample
> bibliography
> >> file that I have been using. 
> >>
> >> Any advice would be appreciated.
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Re: apa styles and the dreaded (?.?)

[John Kane]

 I have LyX working beautifully with apacite so far.  

Next question, sorry.

Is there any way to get apacite or similar to work
with the article class. I seem to be able to use
apalike with report but not with article

Thanks 
 
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

> You don't have the "Natbib" option with style
> "Author, year" selected in the 
> Document|Setting|Bibliography menu.
> 
> The references show fine with this set.
> 
> Mateo.
> 
> 
> On Saturday 04 August 2007 22:04, John Kane wrote:
> > I cannot seem to get article(apa) to produce
> proper
> > citations.  I have tried what seems to be any
> possible
> > combination of Bibliography > Citation Style, and
> > BibTeX Style available and either I generate the
> > infamous (?.?) or, else, some kind of error
> message. I
> > have also tried adding
> > \usepackage{apacite}
> > and
> > \usepackage{babel}
> > \usepackage{apacite}
> > to the LaTex Preamble with no luck.
> >
> > When I get the (?,?) the actual references look
> just
> > fine.
> >
> > I have attached the LyX file and sample
> bibliography
> > file that I have been using.
> >
> > Any advice would be appreciated.
> >
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Re: [announce] completely revised LyX UserGuide - request for testing

[John Kane]

It seems okay now 09:08 Eastern Daylight Saving Time
--- Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:30:54 +0200
> Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> 
> > 
> > You can download the new UserGuide version and a
> PDF-version here:
> >
>
http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/DocumentationDevelopment#Userguide
> 
> Uwe,
> I get a 404 Not Found message from the link on that
> page.
> 
> Alan
> 
> > 
> > best regards
> > Uwe
> > 
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Re: Endnote to Jabref to LyX

[John Kane]

A very nice start is 
Paul Johnson's article
http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/BibTeX/biblioexample.pdf

It does not touch on MLA specifically though.

--- Jannika Bock <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Thanks for the prompt and helpful replies!
> 
> I managed to transfer my endnote database to Jabref.
> Now I would like  
> to generate a bibliography in Lyx; it has to be in
> MLA format.
> 
> Does anybody know how to do that?
> 
> Again, I need step-by-step introductions that are
> geared towards a  
> newbie...
> 
> Jannika
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Re: Help with specific class

[John Kane]

Leandro, 
I don't know about the overall layout but I have just
started playing with LyX and as far as I can see one
of the bibtex apa classes will handle the citation and
referencing with no problem.  I think your wife would
want apacite  but this may depend on which document
class you use.


--- Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On Sat, 18 Aug 2007 19:02:57 +0100
> leandro ribeiro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > Hi there!
> > 
> > I've very recently discovered LyX and LaTeX and -
> must say - I'm
> > marveled!
> > 
> > My wife is writing a doctoral thesis in Psicology
> and she is going mad
> > with MSOffice formating issues. What I wanted to
> do was to use LyX to
> > reformat everything, which would be very easy to
> do if I satisfy
> > myself with the default classes. The problem is
> that the rules at her
> > University are strict as far as formating is
> concerned. I wanted a
> > class that obey those rules so that I could help
> her with that issue,
> > but I'm no wizar as far as coding is concerned. I
> never EVER wrote a
> > single line of code in ANY language and I will not
> be able to learn
> > LaTeX in time! I'm not scared of learning it, but
> I just don't have
> > the time.
> > 
> > I'm here today to ask you for a class. Yes:
> shamlessly asking for an
> > already made class with suitable enviornments! So
> here are the rules:
> 
> Leandro,
> I don't think you need a special class. All of the
> things that you need
> can (I think) be done with only a few very simple
> commands. Just use
> the book class or one of the special book classes
> (Memoir, Koma-script).
> 
> > 
> > - Face page must have:
> > - Title
> > - Author
> > - Doctural thesis made in Bla bla University of
> bla bla
> > - Professors that oriented the project
> 
> These are easy to hand-craft using the LyX insert
> menus. Don't use the
> "title" paragraph style.
> 
> > - Chapters numbering must be roman (I, II, III,
> IV...etc)
> 
> \renewcommand{\thechapter}{\Roman{chapter}
> 
> > - Chapters numbering and title must have
> individual page (I personaly
> > think that this is an UGLY call!!!)
> 
> I do too, but we can either redefine the \chapter
> command or, simple
> enough, when you are finished go through and put in
> some \newpage
> commands at each chapter.
> 
> > - Quotations must be (Author, year, page)
> 
> Not sure about this: need to look at bib styles.
> 
> > - Bibliography must obey APA (American
> Psychological Association)
> > rules
> 
> Ditto
> 
> > - There must be three Abstract pages (one in
> Portuguese, other in
> > English and other in French)
> 
> Again, no experience in multiple languages, but
> shouldn't be hard.
> 
> > - Headers and footers should only be set in the
> chapters themselfs
> > (not in introduction or abstracts or
> aknowledgments)
> 
> Start with "empty" page style, then switch to
> another style by putting
> in \pagestyle command.
> 
> > 
> > Does anyone knows where can I find such a class or
> be kind enough to
> > sketch one for me? :)
> > 
> > I'll be forever thankfull!
> 
> I doubt that you will find a ready-made class that
> does just what you
> want. As I said above, most of these things can be
> "hand-crafted",
> either using the LyX menus or inserting the very
> simple LaTeX commands
> that I have indicated.
> 
> Make sure that you can get the citation and bib
> styles that you need.
> 
> HTH,
> Alan
> 
> 
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > Leandro Ribeiro
> > 
> > 
> 



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Using \include in ERT : How do I specify a path?

[John Kane]

I have a table in plain LaTex that I would like to
inclulde in a LyX document. 
Using ERT 
 \include{filename}

works fine when I have the file in the same folder. 

I don't seem to see how to specify something like
C:\food\table1.tex in either LaTeX or LyX. It must be
obvious but I just don't see it.

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Re: Using \include in ERT : How do I specify a path?

[John Kane]

--- Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane schrieb:
> 
> > I have a table in plain LaTex that I would like to
> > inclulde in a LyX document. 
> > Using ERT 
> >  \include{filename}
> > 
> > works fine when I have the file in the same
> folder. 
> > 
> > I don't seem to see how to specify something like
> > C:\food\table1.tex in either LaTeX or LyX. It must
> be
> > obvious but I just don't see it.
> 
> You have to use slashes instead of backslashes:
> 
> C:/food/table1.tex
> 
> regards Uwe

ARRGH! I almost did that because I set paths in R that
way but I carefully "corrected" my mistake!  

However it appears that the .tex should be omitted.

Works great now, thanks.
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

--- Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Lars Olesen wrote:
> > I have written my thesis in Lyx on Windows, and I
> have no problem
> > exporting to pdf. However, I have trouble
> converting to other stuffÆ
> >
> > + when I want to export to plain text, it does not
> include the bibliography
> > + I cannot convert to either OpenOffice or HTML
> (it does something and
> > finishes without error message, but the files are
> nowhere to be found
> > afterwards)
> >   
> What LyX version are you using? HTML and ODT export
> work better in 1.5.x.
> 
> Look for the files in LyX's temporary directory.
> They may be there.
> 
> Richard


I have never gotten LyX's export to ODT to work (as
far as I can tell. Any suggestions on how to find
LyX's temporary directory under Windows XP? 

I get excellent quality export of HTML and LaTeX to
the same directory that the original file comes from
but I have not been able to find an odt file or a LyX
temporay directory.  

Thanks


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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

--- Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> > --- Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> >   
> >> Lars Olesen wrote:
> >> 
> >>> I have written my thesis in Lyx on Windows, and
> I
> >>>   
> >> have no problem
> >> 
> >>> exporting to pdf. However, I have trouble
> >>>   
> >> converting to other stuffÆ
> >> 
> >>> + when I want to export to plain text, it does
> not
> >>>   
> >> include the bibliography
> >> 
> >>> + I cannot convert to either OpenOffice or HTML
> >>>   
> >> (it does something and
> >> 
> >>> finishes without error message, but the files
> are
> >>>   
> >> nowhere to be found
> >> 
> >>> afterwards)
> >>>   
> >>>   
> >> What LyX version are you using? HTML and ODT
> export
> >> work better in 1.5.x.
> >>
> >> Look for the files in LyX's temporary directory.
> >> They may be there.
> >>
> >> Richard
> >> 
> > I have never gotten LyX's export to ODT to work
> (as
> > far as I can tell. Any suggestions on how to find
> > LyX's temporary directory under Windows XP? 
> >   
> I'm not on Windows, but someone will know. It's
> probably under 
> C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\... somewhere.

That's what I thought but I don't see it.  Ah the joys
of Windows!

> > I get excellent quality export of HTML and LaTeX
> to
> > the same directory that the original file comes
> from
> > but I have not been able to find an odt file or a
> LyX
> > temporay directory.  
> >   
> Well, at least the HTML works. You can try running
> the relevant htlatex 
> command---see Preferences>Converters---manually, and
> see what happens.
> 
> Richard

I don't understand your last comment. Are you
suggeting that I should use ooolatex at a command
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

Ah so there it is. Thanks

However I don't seem much further ahead.  When I
select the Export > Open Document command I  end up
with nothing\  that resembles a OpenOffice.org (odt)
file which I what I was expecting.  

The closest I seem to come to that is a file entitled
: estimates.4od with 2 bytes  where estimates.lyx is
the orginal file at 13k in LyX and TeX forms.  OOo
refuses to open it. 

The estimates.tex file and the estimates.dvi are fine,
that is, I can open the dvi and if I process the tex
file it is fine.

--- Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/27/07, Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> wrote:
> > I'm not on Windows, but someone will know. It's
> probably under
> > C:\Documents and Settings\User Name\... somewhere.
> > > I get excellent quality export of HTML and LaTeX
> to
> > > the same directory that the original file comes
> from
> > > but I have not been able to find an odt file or
> a LyX
> > > temporay directory.
> > >
> > Well, at least the HTML works. You can try running
> the relevant htlatex
> > command---see Preferences>Converters---manually,
> and see what happens.
> 
> 
> If you look under Tools->Preferences->Paths it tells
> you where your
> temporary directory is.
> 
> Bob
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

Next question : where do I find ooolatex?  Perhaps I
don't have ooolatex installed?  I don't see it
anywhere on the harddrive and all I seem to be able to
see is an ooolatex that appears to be an OOo macro
that so far I cannot get to work in OOo.  


--- Richard Heck <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> John Kane wrote:
> > I don't understand your last comment. Are you
> > suggeting that I should use ooolatex at a command
> > prompt?  
> >   
> Yes. And see if that works. If not, then the problem
> is with oolatex. If 
> so, then the problem is in LyX. Of course you'll
> need to export to LaTeX 
> first.
> 
> Richard
> 
> 
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

I'm more at the point of just doing a latex2rtf
conversion which is not all that bad, but it is
extremely annoying that I cannot get this to work. I
use OOo a lot and the ability to move things in and
out of Lyx would be a big help.


--- Bob Lounsbury <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> On 8/27/07, John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ah so there it is. Thanks
> >
> > However I don't seem much further ahead.  When I
> > select the Export > Open Document command I  end
> up
> > with nothing\  that resembles a OpenOffice.org
> (odt)
> > file which I what I was expecting.
> >
> > The closest I seem to come to that is a file
> entitled
> > : estimates.4od with 2 bytes  where estimates.lyx
> is
> > the orginal file at 13k in LyX and TeX forms.  OOo
> > refuses to open it.
> >
> > The estimates.tex file and the estimates.dvi are
> fine,
> > that is, I can open the dvi and if I process the
> tex
> > file it is fine.
> 
> 
> Personally, I gave up on conversions awhile ago so I
> can't really help
> you there. The export to html with LyX 1.5.1 on
> windoze worked best.
> Otherwise, I just gave people pdf's.
> 
> Bob
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Re: Self-publishing with LyX

[John Kane]

Err, download from where?  

I think any good book on self-publishing would be
useful for the LyX community and is likely to extend
its use.

Also I can easily see transfering from Word or
OpenOffice to LyX for final publishing even if most or
all of the writing has been done in a wp.  

I am tending to stick poorly laidout Word reports into
LyX just to get a decent readable document for
personal use. 


--- Typhoon <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> "Self-publishing with LyX" is now available as a
> free download or as a
> USD9.95 printed book from Lulu.com:
> http://www.lulu.com/content/1085870
> 
> Nobody on this list is going to learn much from it.
> It is directed at
> people who want to self-publish and are probably
> using Word or
> OpenOffice.
> 
> But, any feedback appreciated.
> 
> Cheers,
> Alan
> 



   
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

I have no idea of what version of tex4th is on the
machine. Any suggestions on how to check this?

I am assuming that the tex4ht was installed when I
installed MiKTex 2.5 which I think was about 6 months
ago. This is the first LaTeX & LyX installation on the
machine that I am aware of (corporate machine that I
inherited and everybody seems to use Word here). If I
downloaded and installed it myself I don't remember
doing so

Thanks


--- Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > The closest I seem to come to that is a file
> entitled
> > : estimates.4od with 2 bytes  where estimates.lyx
> is
> > the orginal file at 13k in LyX and TeX forms.  OOo
> > refuses to open it. 
> 
> what version of tex4ht do you have ? i vaguely
> remember such problems
> on linux with old versions of converter, but i'm not
> sure whether it 
> was importing or exporting to odf.
> 
> pavel
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Re: date-insert again

[John Kane]

--- Pavel Sanda <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> > date-insert command still exists in LyX 1.5.1 and
> is listed in
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/LyxFunctions
> > it doesn't work for me. Is it my problem (I have a
> ~amd64 Gentoo install) or is
> > more general ? let me know...
> 
> works on ~x86 gentoo.
> is Insert->Date working for you ?
> 
> pavel

It works okay on Windows XP except I'm getting the
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

Thank you Paul.  
I have tried your suggestion and it looks like there
may be a font problem although I'm not good enough at
reading the terminal output to be sure. I have posted
the output at
http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/lyx.ooo.pdf . 

I am not getting any error messages but two warnings
instead.  

I have tried changing the fonts with no success.  What
did you change the font setting to?  

 As before, tex file is working just fine

--- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I just tried export to OpenDocument format with the
> new LyX and have
> some advice that may help.  Run LyX from a terminal
> window.  That way,
> you can watch the error messages. emitted by the
> programs that do the
> translation.
> 
> For me, the first export to ODT frailed--tex4ht
> crashed because it
> could not find a font.  WHen I went to LyX
> document->settings and
> changed the default font, then the export to ODT did
> work.
> 
> If you just run lyx from a menu, you don't see the
> error messages.  If
> you run it from a terminal, you see stuff like this:
> 
> 
> 
> --- error --- Can't find/open file `ecbx1000.tfm'
> 
> t4ht.c (2006-09-13-14:28 kpathsea)
> t4ht -f/descriptions.tex
>   -coo
> (/usr/share/texmf/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env)
> Entering descriptions.lg
> Error: Cannot view file
> 
> File does not exist:
>
/tmp/lyx_tmpdir9646cneuJa/lyx_tmpbuf0/descriptions.odt
> 
> Apparently I lack whatever package has the ecbx
> fonts, so it dies.
> But If I change the font to TimesRoman, then it does
> work.
> 
> But you don't see these errors unless you run LyX
> from a Terminal.
> 
> 
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> Professor, Political Science
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Re: Exporting

[John Kane]

I was reading that as a warning not an error! I think
I was assuming that the earlier warnings were causing
it.

 Now to figure out how to get Windows and LyX to
cooperate.  I have 7-Zip installed but apparently Lyx
is not finding it.  

Any chance that I might have to add a path either at
Windows or Lyx level?

Thanks for the help.

--- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> That output ends with a error saying it can't find
> the zip program in
> your system.  zip is necessary in the creation of
> ODT format files,
> because those files are simply xhtml markup text
> that is compressed
> with zip.   So install zip, and try again!
> 
> pj
> 
> On 8/30/07, John Kane <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Thank you Paul.
> > I have tried your suggestion and it looks like
> there
> > may be a font problem although I'm not good enough
> at
> > reading the terminal output to be sure. I have
> posted
> > the output at
> > http://ca.geocities.com/jrkrideau/LyX/lyx.ooo.pdf
> .
> >
> > I am not getting any error messages but two
> warnings
> > instead.
> >
> > I have tried changing the fonts with no success. 
> What
> > did you change the font setting to?
> >
> >  As before, tex file is working just fine
> >
> > --- Paul Johnson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > I just tried export to OpenDocument format with
> the
> > > new LyX and have
> > > some advice that may help.  Run LyX from a
> terminal
> > > window.  That way,
> > > you can watch the error messages. emitted by the
> > > programs that do the
> > > translation.
> > >
> > > For me, the first export to ODT frailed--tex4ht
> > > crashed because it
> > > could not find a font.  WHen I went to LyX
> > > document->settings and
> > > changed the default font, then the export to ODT
> did
> > > work.
> > >
> > > If you just run lyx from a menu, you don't see
> the
> > > error messages.  If
> > > you run it from a terminal, you see stuff like
> this:
> > >
> > >
> > >
> 
> > > --- error --- Can't find/open file
> `ecbx1000.tfm'
> > > 
> > > t4ht.c (2006-09-13-14:28 kpathsea)
> > > t4ht -f/descriptions.tex
> > >   -coo
> > > (/usr/share/texmf/tex4ht/base/unix/tex4ht.env)
> > > Entering descriptions.lg
> > > Error: Cannot view file
> > > 
> > > File does not exist:
> > >
> >
>
/tmp/lyx_tmpdir9646cneuJa/lyx_tmpbuf0/descriptions.odt
> > >
> > > Apparently I lack whatever package has the ecbx
> > > fonts, so it dies.
> > > But If I change the font to TimesRoman, then it
> does
> > > work.
> > >
> > > But you don't see these errors unless you run
> LyX
> > > from a Terminal.
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > Paul E. Johnson
> > > Professor, Political Science
> > > 1541 Lilac Lane, Room 504
> > > University of Kansas
> > >
> >
> >
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Re: MS Word to LyX?

[John Kane]

Word-to-LaTex will give you a LaTeX file that you
might then able to import to LyX
http://kebrt.webz.cz/programs/word-to-latex/index.html
. I suspect the results will be VERY ugly.

Actually OOo is usually fine.  It's Word's practice of
mangling styles that seems to mess it up.  :)

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> Hi all,
> 
> My 1999 classic, "Rapid Learning: Secret Weapon of
> the Successful 
> Technologist" was written in MS Word. It was a
> styles based document. Now I 
> want to make a second edition.
> 
> I tried to work on it in OpenOffice, but OpenOffice
> is terrible.
> 
> Is there a way to transfer an MS Word document to
> LyX, preserving the 
> paragraph and character styles in the document? I
> don't care how messed up it 
> looks after transfer -- I can tweak the layout file
> to suit my needs, but I'd 
> prefer not to lose styles.
> 
> Anyone know how to do that?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> SteveT
> 
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> courseware
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Re: APA layout

[John Kane]

I gave APA a quick run and it does not seem be
handling titles correctly.  In particular the
subsection* is definately messing up.


The APA.CLS author's example seems to run perfectly in
LaTeX.  

--- "Paul A. Rubin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> Roberto Gorjão wrote:
> > 
> > I'm using apa.layout to style my papers, but it
> seems to miss several of 
> > the APA style specifications, namely headings'
> specifications (cf.: 
> > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/APA_style#Headings).
> > 
> > Is there any other layout already developed that
> follows APA 
> > specifications more closely?
> > 
> 
> 
> Are you saying that what shows up in the LyX GUI
> violates some of the 
> APA style guidelines, or are you saying that the
> final output (DVI, PDF, 
> ...) violates the guidelines?
> 
> The layout file only controls what you see in the
> GUI.  If the final 
> output is off, you'll need a different LaTeX
> document class (or maybe 
> provide some optional settings to the class you are
> using).
> 
> /Paul
> 
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Re: FW: Re: Pagination + long and float table?

[John Kane]

Under help. It is one of the included manuals
--- Mia Pöhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> 
> > 
> > > -Ursprüngliche Nachricht-
> > > Von: Uwe Stöhr <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Gesendet: 13.10.07 15:24:19
> > > An: Mia Pöhler <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > CC: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > > Betreff: Re: Pagination + long and float table?
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Mia Pöhler schrieb:
> > > 
> > > > I'm writing my diploma thesis and need do
> include a long table with about 60 rows on 2 pages.
> but a wanna have a float one which appears in the
> list of tables. how can i get it?
> > > 
> > > longtables cannot float, but they will appear
> anyway in the list of tables, see the
> EmbeddedObjects 
> > > manual for reference.
> > > 
> > > regards Uwe
> > > 
> > 
> > how does it work and where can i find this manual?
> and can i make a legend and a label???
> > 
> > i am a little bit desperate...
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: For Lyx users, a problem in sharing a Lyx file

[John Kane]

I have run into this before and later discovered that
what was happening was that my version was out of date
not the one the other person was using.  

I would suggest checking with the other author : He or
she may be using a more modern version of LyX.  If so
you may need to upgrade.

--- "Frederick [FN] Noronha * फ्रेडरिक
नोरोंया" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
wrote:

> Hi Lyx-Users, When I try to read the Lyx file sent
> to me by a writer
> with whom I'm collaborating on a book, the message
> I'm getting is
> "/tmp/song of the survivors.lyx is from an earlier
> version of Lyx, but
> the lyx2lyx script failed to convert it". Any
> solution? I'm on Lyx
> 1.4.3 FN
> -- 
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> 0091-832-2409490
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Re: tufte-handout.layout outdated

[John Kane]

--- On Thu, 11/5/09, Uwe Stöhr  wrote:

> From: Uwe Stöhr 
> Subject: Re: tufte-handout.layout outdated
> To: "Joachim Osnabryg" 
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Thursday, November 5, 2009, 2:53 PM
> Joachim Osnabryg schrieb:
> 
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Tufte-handout
> - under "Files that are now part of LyX"
> > But with this layout, the "abstract" environment of
> the
> > tufte-handout.cls cannot be chosen by the LyX-GUI, it
> is not there.
> 
> This has been fixed two days ago. Please download the
> layout file again from this Wiki page to get the latest
> version.
> 
> regards Uwe

I just tried it and it seems to work okay for me.  Thanks.
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Re: Layouts for education?

[John Kane]

--- On Sun, 11/15/09, Myriam Abramson  wrote:

> From: Myriam Abramson 
> Subject: Layouts for education?
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, November 15, 2009, 4:58 PM
> 
> Is there any lyx layouts for educational purposes out
> there? 

There probably are many but what kind of thing are you looking for?  
Disertation layouts?  Lab report layouts?  Beamer type presentation layouts? 
Test writing layouts?  ?? ?




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Old/new problem with Tufte layouts

[John Kane]

I wonder if anyone can help me with Tufte layouts? I just bought an little 
netbook and installed LyX 1.6.4 on Windows XP using the AltWindows installer.   
Lyx seems to be running well, in my limited tests except for the Tufte layouts.

I have dropped the new layouts from the wiki into the layout file, loaded the 
MixTex Tufte style and reconfigured but|I am still getting an error : 

"LaTeX Error: File `xifthen.sty' not found."

This is the same error that I was getting on a desktop before installing the 
new Tufte layouts. The little test file is compiling just fine as a simple 
article file.

Have I somehow confused what layout files I'm using? I'm  a newbee  with Lyx so 
I may  be doing something rather stupid.  Any suggestions would be welcomed.

John


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Re: portable lyx: Lytex

[John Kane]

I've had it on a USB stick for 3-4 months and it seems good  but I have had a 
problem loading new LaTeX styles.   Otherwise it's been handy.  
--- On Sun, 11/29/09, vban...@gmail.com  wrote:

> From: vban...@gmail.com 
> Subject: portable lyx: Lytex
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 4:36 AM
> Portable lyx is available as Lytex on
> google code project. Works fine. For
> information
> 


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Re: portable lyx: Lytex

[John Kane]

I've never tried to install LyX on a USB stick with any success before this.  
Lytex installs latex and LyX and it is nicely portable when one is away from 
one's own machine.  

Does a standard installer now create a stand alone system ?

--- On Sun, 11/29/09, James Mansion  wrote:

> From: James Mansion 
> Subject: Re: portable lyx: Lytex
> To: vban...@gmail.com
> Cc: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, November 29, 2009, 5:39 AM
> vban...@gmail.com
> wrote:
> > Portable lyx is available as Lytex on google code
> project. Works fine. For
> > information
> >
> >   
> What is the benefit of this over the normal Win32
> installers?  The 
> documentation on there is sparse.
> 
> James
> 
> 


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bibtex screen problem on a netbook

[John Kane]

I seem to have run into a problem with LyX and bibtex on a small 
netbook computer. I have a Acer Aspire One with Windows XP Home edition on 
it. I recently installed LyX 1.6.4 using the Windows alternate 
installer. 

I run into trouble when I try to insert a bibtex reference 
list. All goes well until I actually try to insert the citation. 
I can select the citation, citation format etc, but then the 
citation window is too large for me to click the 
okay a button at the bottom of the 
that window. 

The citation window extends off the bottom 
of my physical screen.I don't seem to be able to get the window to size 
properly. I can widen or narrow it but I cannot change its height. 
Control arrows appear at the top or at the corners but do not 
have any effect. 

I get the same problem using LyTex with it's 1.6.3 version of 
LyX.

I am having no problem with LyX or Lytex on a standard PC with Windows XP Pro.

Can anyone suggest a solution or work around?

Thanks
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Re: Printing book on two-sided document

[John Kane]

--- On Sun, 12/6/09, Jürgen Spitzmüller  wrote:

> From: Jürgen Spitzmüller 
> Subject: Re: Printing book on two-sided document
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, December 6, 2009, 8:33 AM
> Luca Carlon wrote:
> > Hi! Tomorrow I will have to print my final thesis, and
> I'll have it 
> > binded. So, I checked in LyX the "two-sided document"
> checkbox, to have 
> > it on the two sides to create the book, but I noticed
> something strange. 
> > I suppose this is not LyX related, but I don't know:
> the created 
> > document is, of course, different when the page is on
> the right side or 
> > on the left side, but I noticed as well that the
> column is not centered, 
> > and that the wider free space is on the side of the
> page that will be 
> > binded. I mean, if the page is a right page, the wider
> free space is on 
> > the right, and the column with the text is moved a
> little on the left. 
> > Isn't this strange? Shouldn't the wider free space of
> the page be on the 
> > side of the page that is going to be bided? Is this
> correct or maybe 
> > I've done something wrong?
> 
> It's correct. Remember that the inner space in double-side
> layout is the *sum* 
> of both the inner margin of the left and the right page, so
> the inner margin 
> of each individual page has to be narrower than the outer
> margin.
> 
> Jürgen


Of course!  That has been bugging me for a long time and the explanation is so 
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Re: pro culture of margin notes

[John Kane]

I have been wanting to try the handout version for some time and after 
upgrading to 1.6.5 this afternoon,it looks like I'm back in business.

Thanks for reminding me to check it again since I had not seen anything new for 
1.6.4 this morning.  Depending on the topic, etc, tufte layouts look very 
useful. So, off to experiment!

--- On Fri, 12/18/09, Joachim Osnabryg  wrote:

> From: Joachim Osnabryg 
> Subject: pro culture of margin notes
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Friday, December 18, 2009, 4:09 PM
> Dear LyX-users,
> 
> With the help of my last talks here and elsewhere I have my
> LyX and LaTeX
> installation (see footer) imbedding tufte-latex now spruced
> up again on
> Mac. I breathe a sigh of relief… just before the highdays
> of the turn of
> sun and year! Thanks to Uwe Stöhr and all contributers!
> 
> For not to remain alone in the Tufte-style field of LyX, I
> take the
> liberty to promote and propagate the tufte-latex doc
> classes here. Sorry,
> if it bothers someone, but it's not commercial and I am
> just a thankful
> user of it.
> 
> Since the first LyX layout file for tufte-latex, more than
> one year ago,
> was kindly created by the LyX developers (Jürgen
> Spitzmüller at that time)
> on my demand, almost all documents which I worked out, were
> created in
> tufte-latex with LyX.
> 
> It isn't me skirted (escaped), that, on the user-side, I
> am  a rather
> forlorn (unique) or unrivallet with this. Asking myself
> whyever, the only
> plausible answer seems me, that many LyXers who might like
> the designe and
> - for their works - could well use the possibilities bidden
> by tufte-latex
> 
> - especially the broad right margin and extense use of
> sidenotes (instead
> of footnotes) -,
> 
> do not know it. With this, the tufte style resumes an good
> old tradition
> of printed books: the marginals, which when reading are
> much easyer to
> access by the eyes than footnotes or endnotes.
> 
> Indeed, I would like to see the culture of marginals
> requicken (revive) in
> today's literary world again… and LaTeX and LyX are the
> only instruments
> to realize that.
> 
> So if this has awoken your interest, have a look at the
> produced
> sample-pdfs at:
> 
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/sample-handout.pdf
> http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-book/tuftebookforwiki.pdf
> and/or
> http://tufte-latex.googlecode.com/files/sample-handout-3.5.0.pdf
> http://tufte-latex.googlecode.com/files/sample-book-3.5.0.pdf
> 
> Best regards,
> joachim
> --Mac BacicTeX 2009 - TeXShop 2.29 / TeXworks 0.2.3
> LyX 1.6.5 - MacBook Pro intel OSX 10.4.11 Tiger
> 
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Re: pro culture of margin notes

[John Kane]

OOPS, I may have spoken too so

on. I can get Handout to work okay but for some reason if I switch the same 
file to Book(tufte), I lose the title in div with an error about "Not all fonts 
not be loaded" in YAP· The same file seems to work fine in pdf format.

The YAP error message seems to imply that I am missing a MiKTeX font.

The Doc > Properties message seems to read that MiXATeX could not open some 
local application.

Any suggestions?   

LyX 1.6.5 XP Home Edition

--- On Sat, 12/19/09, John Kane <jrkrid...@yahoo.ca> wrote:

> From: John Kane <jrkrid...@yahoo.ca>
> Subject: Re: pro culture of margin notes
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org, "Joachim Osnabryg" <o...@jpberlin.de>
> Received: Saturday, December 19, 2009, 1:43 PM
> I have been wanting to try the
> handout version for some time and after upgrading to 1.6.5
> this afternoon,it looks like I'm back in business.
> 
> Thanks for reminding me to check it again since I had not
> seen anything new for 1.6.4 this morning.  Depending on
> the topic, etc, tufte layouts look very useful. So, off to
> experiment!
> 
> --- On Fri, 12/18/09, Joachim Osnabryg <o...@jpberlin.de>
> wrote:
> 
> > From: Joachim Osnabryg <o...@jpberlin.de>
> > Subject: pro culture of margin notes
> > To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> > Received: Friday, December 18, 2009, 4:09 PM
> > Dear LyX-users,
> > 
> > With the help of my last talks here and elsewhere I
> have my
> > LyX and LaTeX
> > installation (see footer) imbedding tufte-latex now
> spruced
> > up again on
> > Mac. I breathe a sigh of relief… just before the
> highdays
> > of the turn of
> > sun and year! Thanks to Uwe Stöhr and all
> contributers!
> > 
> > For not to remain alone in the Tufte-style field of
> LyX, I
> > take the
> > liberty to promote and propagate the tufte-latex doc
> > classes here. Sorry,
> > if it bothers someone, but it's not commercial and I
> am
> > just a thankful
> > user of it.
> > 
> > Since the first LyX layout file for tufte-latex, more
> than
> > one year ago,
> > was kindly created by the LyX developers (Jürgen
> > Spitzmüller at that time)
> > on my demand, almost all documents which I worked out,
> were
> > created in
> > tufte-latex with LyX.
> > 
> > It isn't me skirted (escaped), that, on the user-side,
> I
> > am  a rather
> > forlorn (unique) or unrivallet with this. Asking
> myself
> > whyever, the only
> > plausible answer seems me, that many LyXers who might
> like
> > the designe and
> > - for their works - could well use the possibilities
> bidden
> > by tufte-latex
> > 
> > - especially the broad right margin and extense use
> of
> > sidenotes (instead
> > of footnotes) -,
> > 
> > do not know it. With this, the tufte style resumes an
> good
> > old tradition
> > of printed books: the marginals, which when reading
> are
> > much easyer to
> > access by the eyes than footnotes or endnotes.
> > 
> > Indeed, I would like to see the culture of marginals
> > requicken (revive) in
> > today's literary world again… and LaTeX and LyX are
> the
> > only instruments
> > to realize that.
> > 
> > So if this has awoken your interest, have a look at
> the
> > produced
> > sample-pdfs at:
> > 
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-handout/sample-handout.pdf
> > http://wiki.lyx.org/uploads/Layouts/tufte-book/tuftebookforwiki.pdf
> > and/or
> > http://tufte-latex.googlecode.com/files/sample-handout-3.5.0.pdf
> > http://tufte-latex.googlecode.com/files/sample-book-3.5.0.pdf
> > 
> > Best regards,
> > joachim
> > --Mac BacicTeX 2009 - TeXShop 2.29 / TeXworks 0.2.3
> > LyX 1.6.5 - MacBook Pro intel OSX 10.4.11 Tiger
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
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Re: Tufte layout?

[John Kane]

Another Tufte fan! Welcome

--- On Sun, 12/20/09, bb  wrote:

> From: bb 
> Subject: Tufte layout?
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 8:52 AM
> I found some remarks, that there is a
> new layout called tufte in lyx available. I found a remark
> printed in red on http://wiki.lyx.org/Layouts/Tufte-book that this new
> layout (book +handout) should be added with the new lyx
> release 1.6.5 automatically:
> As of version 1.6.5, LyX includes a Tufte-book layout and
> example file.

It seems to. I just did an upgrade from 1.6.4 using the LyXInstaller (update) 
and I now have the two examples.

However there definately are tufte book and handout examples in the example 
file.  Currently I am having a problem with a missing font that drops the title 
when I'm using the book.layout and when I try the handout example in dvi 
(MiXTeX - YAP) but another user (Joachim) reports no problem under Mac OS.

There is no problem when exporting to pdf. 

> 
> May be I misunderstand that sentence? My interpretation
> was, that Tufte-Book is included as i. e. book(KOMA-script).
> Instead I find  an entry with "not available" in the
> list of document classes.

Are you sure that it is loaded in your Latex version?  I don't know if it is 
automatically included in LaTeX.  

> 
> Is it a packaging error or is it my misinterpretation an I
> have to install Tufte-layouts myself? (That is explained at
> http://wiki.lyx.org/LyX/UserDir)
> 
> Regards
> 
> BB

You should not have to but as I mentioned above I am not sure that it is 
automatically included in a Latex installation so you may have to install 
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Missing Aspell ?

[John Kane]

I just installed Lyx on a little netbook and seem to have lost my spellchecker. 
 When I spell check I recieive an error message and when I check under Tools > 
Perfernces the spell checker panel which reads Aspell is greyed out.  

I am correct in assuming that I need to install Aspell and reconfigure?

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Re: Tufte layout?

[John Kane]

No attachment :( Thanks for the help though.  

--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Joachim Osnabryg  wrote:

> From: Joachim Osnabryg 
> Subject: Re: Tufte layout?
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 2:18 PM
> Am 20.12.2009, 20:00 Uhr, I wrote:
> > To get the actual release tufte-latex 3.5 go to:
> > http://code.google.com/p/tufte-latex/
> > and download the tufte-latex-3.5.0.zip, direct
> download link:
> > http://tufte-latex.googlecode.com/files/tufte-latex-3.5.0.zip
> 
> Sorry, I forgot that I am already tufte LyXing on the basis
> of a patched tufte-common.def file, which was given to Uwe
> Stöhr and me by the tufte developer. Since it cannot be
> sent to the lyx-users ML, I have first to care about how to
> get it. I'll give notice, when I know.
> 
> A nessessary addition for using the tufte-latex in LyX, a
> communication of
> tufte developer Kevin Godby and his patched
> tufte-common.def file as
> attachment (if it passes to the list), to save as
> replacement of the
> existing tufte-common.def of the actuel
> tufte-latex3.5.0.zip:
> 
> regards, joachim
> 
> --- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ---
> Von: "Kevin Godby" 
> An: "Uwe Stöhr", "Joachim Osnabryg"
> Betreff: Re: tufte-latex 3.5 problems with LyX
> Datum: Thu, 17 Dec 2009 06:39:12 +0100
> 
> Hello again, gentlemen.
> 
> I've attached a patched tufte-common.def file that you can
> try it. It
> should allow you to use \title and \author in either the
> preamble or
> the document itself.
> 
> I'm using a different hyperref detection mechanism now --
> one that
> isn't restricted to the preamble.
> 
> If the hyperref package is loaded (either by the
> Tufte-LaTeX document
> class or the user in the document preamble), then \title
> will set the
> PDF title (and similarly for \author).  If hyperref is
> not loaded,
> then the PDF title/author will not be set.
> 
> Please let me know how this works for you.  I have a
> couple other
> small bugs to fix up and then I'll see about pushing a
> point release.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> --Kevin
> 
> --Mac BacicTeX 2009 - TeXShop 2.29 / TeXworks 0.2.3
> LyX 1.6.5 - MacBook Pro intel OSX 10.4.11 Tiger
> 
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Re: Tufte layout?

[John Kane]

--- On Sun, 12/20/09, Joachim Osnabryg <o...@jpberlin.de> wrote:

> From: Joachim Osnabryg <o...@jpberlin.de>
> Subject: Re: Tufte layout?
> To: lyx-users@lists.lyx.org
> Received: Sunday, December 20, 2009, 4:17 PM
> Am 20.12.2009, 22:10 Uhr, schrieb
> John Kane <jrkrid...@yahoo.ca>:
> > No attachment :(
> 
> not yet, but soon I'll give notice where/how to get the
> patch.
Excellent. In the mean time I'll just stick to pdf format which is usually my 
final export version anyway.  

> 
> > Thanks for the help though.
> 
> as a matter of course…
> by, joachim
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> LyX 1.6.5 - MacBook Pro intel OSX 10.4.11 Tiger
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