Re: [MediaWiki-l] Enabling special character file names

2015-02-16 Thread David Gerard
+1 on this. I've found MediaWIki on anything other than Linux (I've also tried FreeBSD and Solaris) is something you can get to work eventually, but you're fighting an uphill battle. (The good bit in Linuxes compared to other Unixes is that they usually have excellent dependency resolution.

Re: [MediaWiki-l] [mwstake] What should we focus on?

2015-01-28 Thread David Gerard
I sysadmin a few internal and one external wiki at work, and also rationalwiki.org. One of the work wikis is SMW. For the work wikis, OH GOD I WANT VE. Our users are normal competent people who aren't so good with computers. But they can work a word-processorish rich text editor just fine. For

Re: [MediaWiki-l] LiquidThreads backstory?

2015-01-30 Thread David Gerard
I would disrecommend it - it's an effectively dead project, and the problems aren't fixable. rationalwiki.org took it on board, since WMF said it would be developed ... it still causes infuriating bugs (e.g. PHP out of memory generating watchlists for one user with a ridiculous watchlist) that we

[MediaWiki-l] HHVM is coming to Debian

2015-01-08 Thread David Gerard
https://ftp-master.debian.org/new/hhvm_3.2.0+dfsg1-2.html Apparently it's in review, but should be present in Debian/Ubuntu in due course \o/ - d. ___ MediaWiki-l mailing list To unsubscribe, go to:

[MediaWiki-l] Thanks to the devs for a ridiculously simple upgrade

2015-05-08 Thread David Gerard
Upgrading work wikis from 1.19 to 1.23 with slight trepidation. It went like this: * Back up htdocs and database, unzip tarball into place * php maintenance/update.php * and you're done. My goodness that was simple. Thank you for something that Just Works that well! - d.

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Mark as patrolled links in 1.23 despite $wgUseRCPatrol = false;

2015-06-11 Thread David Gerard
$wgUseNPPatrol = false; appears to have fixed it. Thank you! On 11 June 2015 at 13:49, Alex Monk kren...@gmail.com wrote: What about $wgUseNPPatrol? On 11 June 2015 at 09:16, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: I have an intranet wiki running 1.23 from tarball, upgraded from 1.19

[MediaWiki-l] Seeking good open-web-proxy RBLs

2015-07-02 Thread David Gerard
RationalWiki uses $wgEnableDnsBlacklist = true; and $wgDnsBlacklistUrls. We presently have xbl.spamhaus.org, dnsbl.tornevall.org and all.s5h.net in there. These are pretty good, but of course run on several hours' delay from the fresh proxy lists. What we could really do with is one of webhosting

[MediaWiki-l] Mark as patrolled links in 1.23 despite $wgUseRCPatrol = false;

2015-06-11 Thread David Gerard
I have an intranet wiki running 1.23 from tarball, upgraded from 1.19 (and previously from 1.15 and originally 1.13). $wgUseRCPatrol = false; is set because it's an intranet. But [Mark as patrolled] links are showing up. How do I switch these off? - d.

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Web host blocking policy

2015-07-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 July 2015 at 10:26, Mathieu Stumpf psychosl...@culture-libre.org wrote: Now a more policy concern is, why would you ban an IP when it do indeed make webhosting? It sounds like a shoot first at anything that would remotely look like a dirty face criminal, and then if it survive let it try

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Which Apache MPM for MW-SMW?

2015-11-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 November 2015 at 10:43, Peter Presland wrote: > Among other things I am considering moving to the Apache event-MPM using > php-fpm and mod_proxy_fcgi because it is claimed to half (or better) > process memory usage and provide major cpu-related speed improvements >

Re: [MediaWiki-l] 1.15.1 - 1.23 LTS

2015-07-08 Thread David Gerard
This should be doable in one jump. Take a backup, then try the big jump. If it fails, try again via 1.19. - d. On Wednesday, 8 July 2015, John phoenixoverr...@gmail.com wrote: As a rule of thumb I would upgrade in +2 version increments to play it safe, and make sure you have a full backup

Re: [MediaWiki-l] [Wikitech-l] InstantCommons - Images disappearing again

2016-02-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 February 2016 at 17:14, Brad Jorsch (Anomie) wrote: > No, it was a change in the underlying image handling code that broke API > prop=imageinfo in 1.27.0-wmf.12. Tracked as > https://phabricator.wikimedia.org/T125804, and now resolved. yep, working for us now.

Re: [MediaWiki-l] InstantCommons - Images disappearing again

2016-02-04 Thread David Gerard
I came here to post about the same problem. It appears to have broken this morning. Did the API change again? On 4 February 2016 at 07:33, Dr. Michael Bonert wrote: > In September 2014, I described an intermittent recurrent problem associated > with the InstantCommons

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Debian packages?

2016-03-22 Thread David Gerard
Yeah ... for a while the Debian package for MediaWiki was distinctly idiosyncratic (even by Debian standards), enough so that people were recommended not to use it at all and just use the tarball. For 1.19 it was less variant from upstream and well-maintained enough to steer people to, but then

[MediaWiki-l] GMail refusing mail from rationalwiki.org, site not in DNSBLs - what to do?

2016-04-02 Thread David Gerard
GMail is being flaky as hell about accepting or not accepting email from the RW server, 173.255.233.133 - sometimes works, sometimes hits spam, sometimes gets 550 refused (with no particular reason given). Google doesn't do customer service, of course. We don't *seem* to be in the email blackhole

[MediaWiki-l] Has anyone got the SolveMedia captcha working with 1.26?

2016-05-11 Thread David Gerard
SolveMedia is an ad-based captcha. I have an ancient 1.19 with it that works, but I can't get it to work with 1.26 on PHP 5.5.9. PHP in strict/warnings mode throws up: Notice: Undefined index: adcopy_challenge in /home/funsites/www/rwtest.davidgerard.co.uk/w/extensions/SolveMedia/SolveMedia.php

[MediaWiki-l] Locked-down intranet on public hostile Internet - how best to do this?

2017-02-01 Thread David Gerard
We have an intranet wiki running 1.27 from tarball. I just installed the previous version of GoogleLogin (0.3.1, because automatic account creation works and it doesn't in 0.4). So you now need Google Login on one of our whitelisted GApps domains to read it, let alone edit it. What we want is to

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Trouble making server as SSL as possible and deprecating plaintext without disabling it

2017-02-08 Thread David Gerard
On 8 February 2017 at 17:03, Chad <innocentkil...@gmail.com> wrote: > On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 8:30 AM David Gerard <dger...@gmail.com> wrote: >> Remember that the server sees *only* http:// connections, it isn't >> doing SSL at all - SSL is terminated at the external

Re: [MediaWiki-l] [Wikitech-l] Debian and Ubuntu packages for MediaWiki now available

2016-09-22 Thread David Gerard
Don't forget to update the wiki: https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Ubuntu https://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Debian - d. On 22 September 2016 at 07:44, Legoktm wrote: > Hi, > > I'm very excited to announce that Debian and Ubuntu packages for > MediaWiki are now

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Is it possible to re-introduce "pageviews" and "PopularPages" in MediaWiki (in any hackish way) - or go with an install of 1.24?

2018-05-27 Thread David Gerard
I remember stats.grok.se with fondness - as I understand it, that checked the raw Squid logs and tallied up the page hits. I see we use the "pageviews" tool now - how available is that, and would it be usable outside tools.wmflabs.org? - d. On 27 May 2018 at 19:36, Lewis Cawte

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Proposal to make this mailing list publically indexable by search engines

2018-04-29 Thread David Gerard
For this list, it's an obviously good idea. It's already search engine indexed offsite, there's no good reason not to have our own archive do the same. - d. On 28 April 2018 at 18:51, Brian Wolff wrote: > Currently https://lists.wikimedia.org/robots.txt bans indexing the >

[MediaWiki-l] Is Amazon Aurora sufficiently MySQL for MediaWiki? Is anyone using this?

2018-10-01 Thread David Gerard
We have a couple of internal wikis that are presently 1.27 and will soon be 1.31, that I will be moving to AWS. So I can either (a) use a MariaDB RDS or (b) use Amazon Aurora's version of MySQL, which is a bit cheaper. Aurora MySQL 2.x is MySQL 5.7 compatible going forward. So is anyone here

[MediaWiki-l] load.php gives different data through Cloudfront than directly

2019-01-22 Thread David Gerard
I have a work wiki (running 1.27) that I'm trying to put through AWS Cloudfront. So far it appears to work through Cloudfront! Except that load.php gives different data through Cloudfront, and I get an unstyled page, and load.php's entire output seems to be: /* This file is the Web entry point

Re: [MediaWiki-l] load.php gives different data through Cloudfront than directly

2019-01-22 Thread David Gerard
string is getting stripped. The > behavior here is configurable--you're looking for the Forwarded Values > config in TF. > > https://www.terraform.io/docs/providers/aws/r/cloudfront_distribution.html#forwarded-values-arguments > > -Chad > > On Tue, Jan 22, 2019, 2:14 AM David

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Please lower MySQL requirements in next release

2018-12-22 Thread David Gerard
I'd always recommend MySQL or a highly compatible variant such as MariaDB - Postgres is great, but Wikimedia runs MariaDB so I do too. - d. On Sat, 22 Dec 2018 at 18:18, Jeffrey Walton wrote: > > On Sat, Dec 22, 2018 at 12:59 PM Ryan Schmidt wrote: > > > > Try installing MariaDB instead of

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Template displays different values for Firefox, Chrome

2019-12-10 Thread David Gerard
I saw the problem as reported in Firefox and Chromium, both on Linux. On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 10:46, Brian Wolff wrote: > > Well this weird. I was able to reprofuce the I on samsung internet browser > but not firefox. Also template: was shortened to T: in interface as well > (in the view source

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Template displays different values for Firefox, Chrome

2019-12-10 Thread David Gerard
yep, that's what I see On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 12:18, Hershel Robinson wrote: > > What I see on in Firefox 71 is correct, meaning "Carnifex" and here is > a screenshot: > > https://imgur.com/9zZG9Hp.png > > and on Chromium "Version 78.0.3904.108 (Official Build) Arch Linux > (64-bit)" I see

Re: [MediaWiki-l] Template displays different values for Firefox, Chrome

2019-12-10 Thread David Gerard
On Tue, 10 Dec 2019 at 12:06, Hershel Robinson wrote: > Interesting. On my Linux box, I see it on Chromium but not Firefox, and > both are the latest versions. no no, I mean I saw the same behaviour as the original reporter, and you, are seeing - d.

[Mediawiki-l] png have stopped working (1.11)

2008-12-12 Thread David Gerard
We are running the (admittedly old) 1.11. PNG uploads have stopped working properly. We have three wikis in a farm. Two of them have $wgVerifyMimeType set to false - PNGs can be uploaded, but they won't render and can't be put into a page. The other one, PNGs won't even upload. JPEGs and SVGs

Re: [Mediawiki-l] png have stopped working (1.11)

2008-12-12 Thread David Gerard
2008/12/12 Sean McAfee smca...@collaborativefusion.com: Yes - this happened to me when I accidentally compiled ImageMagick without png support. ooh, that sounds a likely candidate. The ImageMagick on those boxes *shouldn't* have gotten recompiled or updated at any stage (crusty old OS well

Re: [Mediawiki-l] wiki and helpdesks

2009-03-24 Thread David Gerard
2009/3/24 Dorozynski Janusz dorozyns...@wampnm.webd.pl: Whether somebody has any infos about applying Mediawiki engine and Wiki as such in practice of customer support centers (ITIL, helpdesk, hotline)? I will be grateful for any support :-). We find our office intranet wiki useful for

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Creating a Private Wiki

2009-04-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/11 Schiz0 schiz0phreni...@gmail.com: What would be the best way to restrict this? I don't want non-members to be able to view, edit, or register an account on the wiki at all, so I don't see how I would be able to do this using the Wiki settings. The main page can be a splash page

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Creating a Private Wiki

2009-04-11 Thread David Gerard
2009/4/11 David Gerard dger...@gmail.com: The main page can be a splash page that says members only or supplies a login form. You set it so that only logged-in users can view any other pages. Then you authenticate against the forum (this is the magic beans bit, I'm not sure of the details

Re: [Mediawiki-l] [WikiEN-l] Citizendium vs. Wikipedia

2009-04-23 Thread David Gerard
[cc'ed to mediawiki-l] [from wikien-l - discussion of git-backed MediaWiki] 2009/4/23 Gwern Branwen gwe...@gmail.com: As it happens, I've thought about this before and have a little expertise in the issue. I'm one of the developers of a wiki called Gitit -

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Announcing Easy Lucene Search for Mediawiki

2009-05-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/7 Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com: On Thu, 2009-05-07 at 21:33 +0100, David Gerard wrote: I'm still looking forward to corporate readiness of MediaWiki, which for us basically means (1) good WYSIWYG What's wrong with the FCKeditor extension? It's promising but not really cooked

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Announcing Easy Lucene Search for Mediawiki (David Gerard)

2009-05-07 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/7 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: El 5/7/09 2:55 PM, David Gerard escribió: Yeah. Fine-grained security and wiki really don't go together. But try convincing people of that. To be perfectly honest I find *plenty* of situations where I'd like to open up a couple pages of a private

Re: [Mediawiki-l] How do you enable the search for 3-character (or less) searchstrings?

2009-05-26 Thread David Gerard
2009/5/26 Brion Vibber br...@wikimedia.org: Other posts have linked to general directions on tweaking the MySQL search index length limit. You can also upgrade to MediaWiki 1.14 or later, which works around the MySQL server's limit setting internally without any configuration required. Win!

[Mediawiki-l] What killed MS Word? MediaWiki.

2009-08-03 Thread David Gerard
Heh. We win. Even without a good WYSIWYG editor! http://arstechnica.com/microsoft/news/2009/08/microsoft-word-1983---2009-rest-in-peace.ars - d. ___ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Mediawiki-l] Lowest supported MySQL version going forward?

2009-12-12 Thread David Gerard
Domas has posted to wikitech-l that all WMF MySQL servers are now on 5.1. I understand MediaWiki continues to support 4.0 onward. Will the minimum version be raised as the main customer gets more heavily into 5.1? (I have no objection whatsoever to requiring a later MySQL, just asking about

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Table with split header

2010-02-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 February 2010 09:49, Massimo Canonico m...@di.unipmn.it wrote: is there any way to got this effect in the table: http://rhftech.com/images/excel_split_header.png ? I'm looking at cell A1. Not really - MediaWiki table syntax is just a shorthand for actual HTML tables, and there isn't a

Re: [Mediawiki-l] list interwiki/interlanguage links?

2010-02-28 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2010 01:36, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: The Interwiki feature isn't really enabled used in default MW installations. Are you sure about that? I thought that's how doing [[wikipedia:foo]] in default-out-the-tarball intranet wikis worked at all. - d.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] list interwiki/interlanguage links?

2010-03-01 Thread David Gerard
On 1 March 2010 10:18, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: On Sun, Feb 28, 2010 at 8:50 PM, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Are you sure about that? I thought that's how doing [[wikipedia:foo]] in default-out-the-tarball intranet wikis worked at all. There's no default special page

[Mediawiki-l] 1.16b2 install problems

2010-04-29 Thread David Gerard
This is so simple and showstopping it'll be something stupid on my part. We have a 1.13 installation. I tried setting up a test wiki with 1.16b2 on the same database (techwiki) with a new table prefix (testwiki_). We have a user, admin. I tried installing 1.16b2 and got error 1044, insufficient

Re: [Mediawiki-l] 1.16b2 install problems

2010-04-30 Thread David Gerard
On 29 April 2010 23:06, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: It will probably still fail, but this time with an error message. It did indeed: MySQL insisting 'admin'@'localhost' didn't have the right to create tables. My GRANT line in the previous email was wrong - the one that works is:

[Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-05 Thread David Gerard
I was particularly keen to get halfway-usable WYSIWYG editing in MediaWiki for our office intranet. So I just did a test installation of MW 1.16b2 with FCK Editor Official svn head. It's pretty good, I'm really impressed! But it's buggy. (Chews up form fields for the InputBox extension, and

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-17 Thread David Gerard
On 5 May 2010 11:26, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: Is this a suitable place to talk about problems with it? Is anyone from FCK here? Given the tumbleweeds in response, it appears not ;-) I'll be filing bugs on it, then. Here's the first, an apparent incompatibility between FCKeditor

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 May 2010 13:37, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: If you file a bug and I fix it in trunk, will the changes ever get to their copy? Or vice versa...do we ever get downstream changes they've made? This is different from having an external dependency like GeSHi that we have to

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 May 2010 18:35, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Forwarding on behalf of Jack, which is not subscribed: Maybe the best idea would be to kill off our FCKeditor extension and try to collaborate with Wikia regarding their CKeditor integration extension. It certainly would be cool to

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 15:50, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: I have to disagree with you given my experience. In one government department where MediaWiki was installed we saw the active user base spike from about 1000 users to about 8000 users within a month of having   enabled

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 16:08, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: So to answer the original question of Why don't we have WYSIWYG when it's been around for 15 years? It's because we need a lossless conversion between raw wikitext and wikitext output by the visual editor. Last time I checked, this

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 16:39, Robert Cummings rob...@interjinn.com wrote: In my particular case I get to fix the bugs and enhance both MediaWiki and FCKeditor :) Unfortunately, at this time I am unable to pass fixes back to the community due to contracting issues and how it relates to GPL. This is

Re: [Mediawiki-l] FCK Editor svn head and MW 1.16b2 - correct venue?

2010-05-19 Thread David Gerard
On 19 May 2010 18:42, Steve VanSlyck s.vansl...@spamcop.net wrote: MOving over to the other side of the argument for a moment, it seems to me that the building could be built one brick at a time. E.g., get the basic features in place first, such as bolding, underscoring, links, and god-forbid

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Moral standards

2010-05-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 May 2010 10:09, bern...@bernardhulsman.nl bern...@bernardhulsman.nl wrote: The high moral standards of the MediaWiki community appeals to me. There is a general believe these standards are higher then in the outside world. Counterexample: PHP. - d.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Moral standards

2010-05-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 May 2010 10:18, Raymond Wan r@aist.go.jp wrote: So, no one is picky on you specifically or your enthusiasm...it's just (AFAIK) not on topic to this list... Indeed. Hence my joke about the immorality of PHP ;-) Mediawiki is free software, per the free software definition[1]: *

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Moral standards

2010-05-29 Thread David Gerard
On 29 May 2010 13:27, bern...@bernardhulsman.nl bern...@bernardhulsman.nl wrote: So the moral standard on Wikipedia seems to be the contrary of the moral standards in this newsgroup. That is possible but inconsistent. Wikipedia is actually pretty much off-topic here. If you want to discuss

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Moral standards

2010-05-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 May 2010 13:11, Henny Savenije webmas...@henny-savenije.pe.kr wrote: Steve, are you the owner of this group? No, he isn't. He is, however, a subscriber who doesn't like the group being used for blatantly off-topic noise. And neither am I. - d.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] [Wikitech-l] a wysiwyg editor for wikipedia?

2010-05-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 May 2010 23:37, Steve VanSlyck s.vansl...@spamcop.net wrote: (b) doesn't cope very well with the weirdest stuff done on English Wikipedia, where wikitext is tortured horribly to squeeze out every possible emergent side-effect for editor's use. ? en:wp not only uses ridiculous

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Moral standards

2010-06-18 Thread David Gerard
On 18 June 2010 07:34, Ronis s crusinn...@hotmail.com wrote: who the fuckare u people that keep comming ontomy email stop this shit i amtired of youpeople sending me your crap i will report you to microsoft stop OK, that message makes the entire thread suddenly worthwhile. - d.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Difficulty with changing the alias in Ubuntu 10.04 with mediawiki

2010-06-28 Thread David Gerard
On 28 June 2010 11:41, Vincent Baier (RIT Student) vjb4...@rit.edu wrote: The results of various modifications of these have either been a seemingly working redirect from apache to a blank page with now source. Or a redirect loop warning. If anybody could help me get these URLs cleaned up I

Re: [Mediawiki-l] [Wikitech-l] developer

2010-07-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 July 2010 20:49, Misha Zaitzeff misha.zaitz...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, I hope I'm not being inappropriate posting to these lists, but I'm looking to hire a mediawiki expert on a consulting/freelance basis to help me with a project. Probably not for wikitech-l, which is about

[Mediawiki-l] Email notification setup?

2010-07-22 Thread David Gerard
I want an email when a particular page is edited on an intranet wiki I just set up. Enotif is apparently (largely) part of MW these days, but I can't find how to switch it on. The wiki is MW 1.15.4 with SMW installed via Semantic Bundle (the only sensible way to set up SMW). It has a pile of

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Email notification setup?

2010-07-22 Thread David Gerard
On 22 July 2010 11:38, nakohdo frank.r...@gmx.net wrote: And here http://meta.wikimedia.org/wiki/Help:Watching_pages#E-mail_notification Thank you and thanks to Frank, it's now working! These were the magic options: #email changes to pages on watchlist $wgEnableEmail = true;

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Registration by Admin

2010-07-25 Thread David Gerard
On 26 July 2010 01:53, B. M. Whealton bwheal...@futurewavedesigns.com wrote:       Is it possible for an admin to setup an account for someone in advance? It can be a bit laborious generating accounts one at a time by hand, but I've done it. Do you mean some sort of special: page for

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Registration by Admin

2010-07-26 Thread David Gerard
On 26 July 2010 02:47, B. M. Whealton bwheal...@futurewavedesigns.com wrote: What did you mean by switching your skins to Vector?  I see a few skins that came with mediawiki. Setting the default skin so people at work will see it and think ah, like Wikipedia, not weird.  I did find a list

[Mediawiki-l] How long is an InstantCommons failure cached?

2010-07-31 Thread David Gerard
I tried using a file on RationalWiki, which uses InstantCommons. The file didn't exist (it was on en:wp, not Commons). I moved the file to Commons, but RationalWiki still thinks it doesn't exist in the foreign file repo. ?action=purge does nothing. How long do I have to wait? (The page is

Re: [Mediawiki-l] How long is an InstantCommons failure cached?

2010-07-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 July 2010 14:08, K. Peachey p858sn...@yahoo.com.au wrote: InstantCommons[1] which is just a shortcut for ForeignFilesRepo[2] was introduced in 1.16.0[1] where as FFR has been around since 1.11.0[2]. Which means it would be manually configured since you mention 1.14.x, If the person used

Re: [Mediawiki-l] installation issue with 1.16.0 - mysql user privilege

2010-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2010 23:01, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: Benjamin Lees wrote: On Wed, Aug 4, 2010 at 4:40 PM, Sullivan, James (NIH/CIT) [C] sulli...@mail.nih.gov wrote: Have the privilege requirements for the database user privileges changed from 1.15 to 1.16 for installing mediawiki?

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Wikitext grammar

2010-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2010 20:45, lmhelp lm...@wanadoo.fr wrote: I am wondering if there exists a grammar for the Wikicode/Wikitext language (or an *exhaustive* (and formal) set of rules about how is constructed a Wikitext). I've looked for such a grammar/set of rules on the Web but I couldn't find

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Wikitext grammar

2010-08-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 August 2010 23:58, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: On 4 August 2010 20:45, lmhelp lm...@wanadoo.fr wrote: - Is a grammar available somewhere? - Do you have any idea how to extract the first paragaph of a Wiki article? - Any advice? - Does a Java Wikitext parser exists which would

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Wikitext grammar

2010-08-06 Thread David Gerard
On 6 August 2010 18:59, Trevor Parscal tpars...@wikimedia.org wrote: In short, the current parser is a bad example of how to write a parser, I forgot to call it a box of pure malevolent evil, a purveyor of insidious insanity, an eldritch manifestation that would make Bill Gates let out a low

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Media Wiki on Solaris 10 Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2010 17:58, Chuck Carson chuck.car...@uav.com wrote: I am installing media wiki 1.16.0 onto a Solaris 10 u8 x64 system. I am using the sunfreeware packages and have the following versions: Apache - 2.2.15 PHP – 5.2.13 libxml2 - 2.7.7 When I navigate to the config component I

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Media Wiki on Solaris 10 Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2010 18:08, Chuck Carson chuck.car...@uav.com wrote: Yea trying to avoid rolling my own stuff. This box serves a myriad of other web applications and I would have to custom roll a dozen packages or more. =( Yes, that's less than ideal. The key point appears to be libphp5.so.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Media Wiki on Solaris 10 Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2010 18:30, Chuck Carson chuck.car...@uav.com wrote: Cool, I'll try just rolling PHP against the sunfreeware versions of everything else. The key point is to build a libphp5.so with all the salad, and *just drop that into place* - don't install the rest of PHP if you don't have

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Media Wiki on Solaris 10 Issues

2010-08-12 Thread David Gerard
On 12 August 2010 22:03, Chuck Carson chuck.car...@uav.com wrote: Well I can't seem to build php against the sunfreeware version of mysql: Undefined                       first referenced  symbol                             in file mysql_set_character_set            

[Mediawiki-l] DPL and DEFAULTSORT

2010-08-15 Thread David Gerard
Does DynamicPageList obey {{DEFAULTSORT:}}? Should it? It doesn't appear to be for me, e.g. on http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Template:Altmed - that's twelve random articles from a category, and all the articles about people have DEFAULTSORT for their surnames. - d.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Restricted Area(s)

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 16 August 2010 17:31, Graham tolli...@dal.ca wrote: I am aware that all users can view the main Namespace; is there a way to prevent the group setup to view only one Namespace, from accessing the main Namespace? Is there a method of preventing user from even seeing menu selections? Not

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Restricted Area(s)

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 17:54, Graham tolli...@dal.ca wrote: So I guess there isn't any possibility to have a group of users assigned to a Namespace, and the other users status quo. The owner of the wiki doesn't want another one to administer, so that's why I am trying to be one hundred percent

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Restricted Area(s)

2010-08-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 August 2010 21:40, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: I think that the world and industry as a whole are somewhat harmed by the situation; adoption rate of intranet Wikis is somewhat slow in many environments, because they're using more lousy Wiki platforms. Personally I'd

[Mediawiki-l] WARNING: This page is XX kilobytes long - what browsers are affected in 2010?

2010-08-23 Thread David Gerard
MediaWiki seems to still include the default notice: WARNING: This page is XX kilobytes long; some browsers may have problems editing pages approaching or longer than 32kb. Please consider breaking the page into smaller sections. I understand this was in place for the last few Netscape 4 users

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Start New Page

2010-09-14 Thread David Gerard
On 14 September 2010 15:16, Charlie Markwick charlie-markw...@southcot.com wrote: I'm looking for a quick and easy way of helping a user to create a new page. Either through a sidebar link or a page that could contain a box to write in the title. I found the NewPage extension but currently

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Benefits of using wiki in a corporate environment-how to convience?

2010-10-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 October 2010 03:20, George Herbert george.herb...@gmail.com wrote: On the followup question - yes.  You need to have the landing pad main page visible to anyone, but you can create a group memberships structure with a custom group that keeps anyone from accessing content unless you

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Benefits of using wiki in a corporate environment-how to convience?

2010-10-17 Thread David Gerard
On 17 October 2010 17:30, Steve VanSlyck s.vansl...@spamcop.net wrote: OK - I'm pretty non-tech. What IS the htaccess file all about? I meant .htpasswd: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/.htpasswd It puts a password on accessing a page (or site) at all. Then once you've put in that password, you

Re: [Mediawiki-l] about requiring PHP 5.2

2010-10-19 Thread David Gerard
On 28 September 2010 20:39, Ashar Voultoiz hashar+...@free.fr wrote: Looking at INSTALL it seems we are still supporting PHP version 5.1 which is 5 years old in a couple of weeks.  This is getting old and prevents developers from using some new features. 5.1 doesn't actually work. I recently

Re: [Mediawiki-l] SVG Thumbnail errors

2010-10-27 Thread David Gerard
On 27 October 2010 22:20, Caitlin Dempsey edi...@gislounge.com wrote: I'm using ImageMagick to render SVG images on my wiki but some of the thumbnails have problems with them.  For exampled this SVG image has some pixels in the upper left hand corner that shouldn't be there:

[Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution?

2011-02-10 Thread David Gerard
I have a requirement for an intranet wiki for sales, marketing and other people who have no technical abilities whatsoever. I'd like to use MediaWiki. This requires WYSIWYG. There is no good WYSIWYG for MediaWiki - but what are the least-worst solutions others have managed with this requirement,

[Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution?

2011-02-10 Thread David Gerard
(to list as well) -- Forwarded message -- From: David Gerard dger...@gmail.com Date: 10 February 2011 16:58 Subject: Re: [Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution? To: Haim (Howard) Roman ro...@jct.ac.il On 10 February 2011 16:46, Haim (Howard) Roman ro...@jct.ac.il

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution?

2011-02-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 February 2011 17:02, Sullivan, James (NIH/CIT) [C] sulli...@mail.nih.gov wrote: I've been using the FCKeditor with our wikis and it is fine for regular use.   So if your users will just be entering text and an occasional table or image it is more than fine.  But, if they plan to do

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution?

2011-02-10 Thread David Gerard
On 10 February 2011 19:24, Sullivan, James (NIH/CIT) [C] sulli...@mail.nih.gov wrote: The FCKeditor does not handle these image attributes, just size, position and caption, which was my only point about links, and yes, I consider it fancy since most users do not add these attributes to their

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Least-worst present WYSIWYG solution?

2011-02-11 Thread David Gerard
On 10 February 2011 23:28, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: My last experiment with FCK was hampered by it messing up the tags used by Extension:InputBox - our users are very fond of the Create an article! box I put on the front page of our internal wikis

Re: [Mediawiki-l] mediawiki+security

2011-03-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 March 2011 14:15, Vitaly Liaschuk lari...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks for your answer. We going to search other way to store our passwords. What we do is have a file readable only by root stored in a particular place, known to the sysadmins, our boss and our boss's boss (the latter two not

Re: [Mediawiki-l] where can I get mw_tools? backup w/o shell

2011-03-31 Thread David Gerard
On 31 March 2011 17:39, Chad innocentkil...@gmail.com wrote: What is mw_tools? http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Mw_tools - unofficial toolkit by User:Wanglong. - d. ___ MediaWiki-l mailing list MediaWiki-l@lists.wikimedia.org

[Mediawiki-l] New UK cookie rules and MediaWiki

2011-05-10 Thread David Gerard
http://www.ico.gov.uk/~/media/documents/library/Privacy_and_electronic/Practical_application/advice_on_the_new_cookies_regulations.pdf New rules: only cookies that are strictly necessary may be set without permission. All others require explicit permission from the user. These will be quite a

Re: [Mediawiki-l] New UK cookie rules and MediaWiki

2011-05-11 Thread David Gerard
On 11 May 2011 20:51, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: However, I think that a disclaimer at Special:UserLogin explaining that by logging in you store a few cookies should be enough. Should only require altering that little piece of text. (Can someone just do this, or should a bug be

[Mediawiki-l] HOWTO set up an emergency mirror copy of your intranet wiki

2011-06-08 Thread David Gerard
This is all the obvious method, but the key thing I want to note is that it actually works smoothly just as you would expect :-) Our intranet wiki is MediaWiki 1.13 using MySQL on a Solaris 10 box, which is our general internal-use database server. Oracle runs on the same box and decided to fill

Re: [Mediawiki-l] [Wikitech-l] Extension bundling for 1.18

2011-06-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 June 2011 17:58, MZMcBride z...@mzmcbride.com wrote: http://www.mediawiki.org/wiki/Possible_tarballs Note there's a strawpoll there to indicate tarball users' interest in particular extensions. Go forth and !vote :-) - d. ___ MediaWiki-l

Re: [Mediawiki-l] HOWTO set up an emergency mirror copy of your intranet wiki

2011-06-09 Thread David Gerard
On 9 June 2011 23:09, Platonides platoni...@gmail.com wrote: David Gerard wrote: This doesn't copy images or files - we don't use images much at all. That can come later if we care :-) Looking a bit broken may well be a feature in this context ... That won't provide a full backup (eg. user

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Wiki migration II

2011-12-05 Thread David Gerard
On 5 December 2011 18:54, sam.sex...@thomsonreuters.com wrote: Apropos Stephen Berg's upgrade, early next year I hope to be going from 1.13.0 on Solaris to 1.18+ on SUSE. I can't upgrade, so my initial plan is to: 1. Do the new installation on SUSE 2. Copy the live database to my Solaris

[Mediawiki-l] Old MW installations' Monobook skin breaking in Firefox 9

2012-01-03 Thread David Gerard
So this morning I was greeted with Firefox 9. Trouble is, a couple of our internal wikis run old versions (1.13 and 1.15) and ... old Monobook appears to be broken by FF9. The sidebar appears only after the page content, leaving a large empty space between the wiki logo and the sidebar.

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Old MW installations' Monobook skin breaking in Firefox 9

2012-01-03 Thread David Gerard
On 4 January 2012 06:13, Daniel Friesen li...@nadir-seen-fire.com wrote: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=679971 Hah, they're backing it out for FF 10! (With great reluctance.) Yes, these are strictly internal. I've notified people we're leaving these broken while I do more urgent

Re: [Mediawiki-l] Old MW installations' Monobook skin breaking in Firefox 9

2012-01-04 Thread David Gerard
On 4 January 2012 07:26, David Gerard dger...@gmail.com wrote: http://svn.wikimedia.org/viewvc/mediawiki/trunk/phase3/skins/common/wikibits.js?r1=53141r2=53140pathrev=53141 appears to be the patch that removed this test from MediaWiki, I may try that change on these creaky internal things

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