[meteorite-list] SALE: Fall housecleaning 100+specimens!

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Horejsi
Hello, I posted a listing with pictures of over 100 meteorite specimens and thin sections on the web at: http://www.planetwhy.com/ Have a look and let me know you wants as soon as possible. Cheers, Martin __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL

[meteorite-list] Meteorites Poster

2003-09-17 Thread Jensan Scientifics/ Sci-Mall
Hello list, For those of you who have ordered the Meteorites: A-Z poster it has been delayed in going to press. We look for the new release date to be the 25th. All those who put in an order for one will be seeing a ship date then. Sorry for the inconvenience. Best, Sarah Kennedy Science

[meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC, but interesting study.

2003-09-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Aoccdrnig to a rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are, the olny iprmoetnt tihng is taht frist and lsat ltteer is at the rghit pclae. The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit porbelm. Tihs is bcuseae we do not raed ervey

Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - September 11-17, 2003

2003-09-17 Thread Steve Schoner
Just a thought, Are there any close up images taken in the moments before atmosphic entry showing a horizon view of Jupiter's upper atmosphere, maybe showing the cloudtops and the plantets curve against space? This would be very interesting. Steve Schoner/ams --- Ron Baalke [EMAIL PROTECTED]

[meteorite-list] Chomping on Nano-Nuggets (ALH84001)

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
http://www.astrobio.net/news/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=596mode=threadorder=0thold=0 Chomping on Nano-Nuggets By Leslie Mullen Astrobiology Magzine September 17, 2003 Nanobacteria are not alive, but instead are the result of enzymes that break down organic material,

[meteorite-list] collector-contact?

2003-09-17 Thread Sharkkb8
I've been emailing a Wichita/Kansas collector named Jerry Calvert, but my emails the last several days have bounced. Anyone knowhow toto contact him? Thanx Gregory

Fw: Re: [meteorite-list] Mars Global Surveyor Images - September 11-17, 2003

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Langenfeld
- Forwarded message follows - Just a thought, Are there any close up images taken in the moments before atmosphic entry showing a horizon view of Jupiter's upper atmosphere, maybe showing the cloudtops and the plantets curve against space? This would be very

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Howard Wu
Thanks Mark, I guess my point was it a big planet. Mars and the moon aren't puny either. Lots of different mineralogies if you could get a closer look. So lets go... Howard WuMark Ferguson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Different rock types Howard, Yosemite is granite batholith, Zion is

Re: [meteorite-list] collector-contact?

2003-09-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Hello Gregory and list, Nice seeing you in Denver Gregory. Send me his e-mail address and I can confirm it or not, it might be down at the moment or overfilled as I believe he is on vacation. Mark Bostick Wichita, Kansas - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday,

Re: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Mark Ferguson
I think the list has taken this thread well and answered a lot of the questions. It is interesting how terminology can be misunderstood, such as oxidation, its just not only rust! But,I think the most perplexing question has that of classifications. Since the researchers are somewhat divided

[meteorite-list] Re: Galileo (was Mars Global Surveyor Images - September 11-17, 2003)

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
Are there any close up images taken in the moments before atmosphic entry showing a horizon view of Jupiter's upper atmosphere, maybe showing the cloudtops and the plantets curve against space? This would be very interesting. You had me confused, I didn't know what this had to do with

[meteorite-list] test

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Altmann
juhi test

[meteorite-list] Munich show hello

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Hello list, Hi Jim, as I’m living in Munich and the Munich show is my home fair, I think I’m predestined to give you my impressions about this show. But first I have to introduce myself, because I’m joining this list only since two weeks, amused about the exchange of insults between the

[meteorite-list] Munich II

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Now to the show: I havent been yet to Ensisheim, but beside that show, Munich was always the largest (sorry Rainer) and most important event for meteorites in Europe. Where shall I start if someone is missing on the list: Dont be angry, its just a syptom of my weak brain, raise your

[meteorite-list] RIFLE, COLORADO

2003-09-17 Thread Steve Arnold, Chicago!!!
Hi list.Could anyone tell me about the history of the RIFLE,COLORADO meteorite?I just purchased a small piece and was wondering about it's origin.It is a neat sounding name for a meteorite. steve arnold, usa = Steve R.Arnold, Chicago, IL, 60120

[meteorite-list] Munich III

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Altmann
From those, who are present on the web, but not on the dealers list, I want to mention the Egers with nice stuff and of course Siggi Haberer and friends with their excellent documented and classified desert finds CK4 monster, howardite, eucrite, I really dont know, why their table attracts

[meteorite-list] Munich IV

2003-09-17 Thread Martin Altmann
Some remark about the pricing. Its getting more and more difficult to make real bargains, meanwhile most participiants there know the prices very well. Most specialized dealers from internet will bring their prices with them, which you can read on their sites. Of course there is always an

Re: [meteorite-list] RIFLE, COLORADO

2003-09-17 Thread Matt Morgan
Good find. Have been looking for a piece. See here for more info http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2002/pdf/5165.pdf Matt Morgan Steve Arnold, Chicago!!! wrote: Hi list.Could anyone tell me about the history of the RIFLE,COLORADO meteorite?I just purchased a small piece and was wondering

[meteorite-list] Rifle, Colorado

2003-09-17 Thread bernd . pauli
Matt wrote: Good find. Have been looking for a piece. See here for more info http://www.lpi.usra.edu/meetings/metsoc2002/pdf/5165.pdf Steve Arnold wrote: Could anyone tell me about the history of the Rifle, Colorado meteorite? I just purchased a small piece and was wondering about its

[meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Jose Campos
Hi List and Ron, Ron Balk's "Mars Global Surveyor Images September 11-17, 2003" email sent yesterday to meteorite-list has as allways, many interesting images from Mars, but I would like to call your attention to the one under "Boulders on Phobos (Released 16 Sept. 2003)

Re: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC, but interesting study.

2003-09-17 Thread Kevin Fly Hill
Tom - Yuor rperot sesem to be crrocet as I udnretosod yuor wolhe mgasese! Fly Hlil - Original Message - From: Tom aka James Knudson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: meteorite-list [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 9:32 AM Subject: [meteorite-list] OFF TOPIC, but interesting

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 12:29 AM 9/18/2003 +0100, you wrote: My question is: Would it be possible to find on Earth, meteorites with an origin from Phobos (or the other moon Deimos)? Yes, but at present we don't really have any way to determine if a specific meteorite originated from Phobos or Deimos as opposed to

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
My question is: Would it be possible to find on Earth, meteorites with = an origin from Phobos (or the other moon Deimos)? Or would the fragments be mainly gravitationally atracted by Mars? I suppose that other factors should be considered, such as the angle and = the velocity of the

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Charles R. Viau
Oxidation - Definition - Combining a substance with oxygen. Oxidation is not possible without oxygen. It must be present, either directly, or produced indirectly by a chemical process that involves a catalyst that frees up the oxygen from some material that contains molecules with oxygen locked

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
Yes, but at present we don't really have any way to determine if a specific meteorite originated from Phobos or Deimos as opposed to asteroids of similar composition (as best we can determine the composition without actual samples). Exactly. The Russians have been planning to launch

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread S. Singletary
At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote: Oxidation - Definition - Combining a substance with oxygen. Strictly speaking oxidation is the loss of electrons. The electrons need somewhere to go so something is going to gain electrons and that is the reduction part. So to undergo oxidation,

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Charles R. Viau
Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a reduction reaction not involving oxygen, and not oxidation .. ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of S. Singletary Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:23 PM To:

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, Ron wrote; By the way, that image of the boulder on Phobos is a cool image, particurly with the long shadows. http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/09/16/index.html How would you guess that got there? Is that a true martian meteorite, a meteorite on the martian surface? Thanks,

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
By the way, that image of the boulder on Phobos is a cool image, particurly with the long shadows. http://www.msss.com/mars_images/moc/2003/09/16/index.html How would you guess that got there? Is that a true martian meteorite, a meteorite on the martian surface? From the image caption:

[meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part II

2003-09-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
The best thing at the auction did not sell. Fred Hall provided a printing press used by Glenn Huss and Nininger on various publications. I think it would be nice if national meteorite displays showed more of the humanist aspect in meteorites and cant think of a better item to have showing. Fred

[meteorite-list] Change of Email Address

2003-09-17 Thread AVAGEN
Dear Listmaster, As soon as you can, please change my mailing address to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Thank you. Michael

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Charles R. Viau
Ok, and in this reduced reaction, Barium Fluoride would not be considered an oxide.. ? correct ? -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Howard Wu Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:40 PM To: Charles R. Viau; meteorite-list

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 08:32 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a reduction reaction not involving oxygen, and not oxidation.. ? In general, oxidation is the loss of electrons, and reduction is the gain of electrons. Those terms are used in modern

[meteorite-list] Munich show,thanks Martin

2003-09-17 Thread jim
Hi Martin and list Martin ,thanks for the useful info.I had taken a bit of a look through the 700 or so registered dealers and the various Moroccans certainly caught my eye.Thanks for the tip on 'haggling' *wink*. So it seems that you are saying it is possible for the general public to

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Charles R. Viau
Thanks, I understand the difference much better in that context. I love this list, where else can you get info like this!!! CharlyV -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Philip R. Burns Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2003 8:49

[meteorite-list] Ad - Rare Weekly Special

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Hupe
Dear List Members, We are trying to get back on track with our weekly rare specials. This week we would like to introduce Dhofar 019. Dhofar 019 from Oman, is a Basaltic-Doleritic Shergottite from Mars Found January 24th, 2000. This rare Martian meteorite has several unique features not found

[meteorite-list] Denver Show - Part I

2003-09-17 Thread MARK BOSTICK
Denver 2003 Report By Mark Bostick I usually choose to fly and then have one of my brothers meet me in Denver with a car to get around and get things home with. This year I chose just to drive in. Armed with the help of my brother, Johnny Bostick. I left Thursday evening choosing to stop along

[meteorite-list] meteorite from Phobos? Kaidun

2003-09-17 Thread Popocatept
You guys are dancing around the answer to the question. The Vernadsky Institute has in their possession a meteorite that they believe came from Phobos. Why do they think so? Because it has a spectral match with carbonaceous chondrites as does Phobos and it has at least 2 clasts that are

[meteorite-list] Ad - Rare Weekly Special DHO 019 age??

2003-09-17 Thread Popocatept
Adam, Is there a typo here? 525 million years is not particularly old. ALH84001 is 4.5 billion years old. Mike Fowler Chicago Its very old crystallization age of 525Ma +/- 56Ma. __ Meteorite-list mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorites from Phobos?

2003-09-17 Thread almitt
Hi Jose and all, Yes, very possible that we might have samples from both the Martian moons as well as Mars. The spectral matches for Phobos seem to match the CV3's type meteorites like Allende, Mexico and have been suggested in the past. However there are many other asteroids that have this

[meteorite-list] Galileo Jupiter Impact Animations

2003-09-17 Thread Ron Baalke
I've created three sets of Galileo Jupiter Impact animations, and placed them on the Galileo home page: http://www.jpl.nasa.gov/galileo/countdown/impact.html The first animation shows the spacecraft view of the looming Jupiter as it approaches. The second animation is from the viewpoint of

Re: [meteorite-list] meteorite from Phobos? Kaidun

2003-09-17 Thread Philip R. Burns
At 09:07 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: You guys are dancing around the answer to the question. The Vernadsky Institute has in their possession a meteorite that they believe came from Phobos. Why do they think so? Because it has a spectral match with carbonaceous chondrites as does Phobos and

Re: [meteorite-list] Ad - Rare Weekly Special DHO 019 age??

2003-09-17 Thread Adam Hupe
Hi Mike and List Members, 525 million years is old for a Shergottite compared to 180ma to 475ma for the rest of the Shergottites. Good question, though! All the best, Adam Adam, Is there a typo here? 525 million years is not particularly old. ALH84001 is 4.5 billion years old. Mike

[meteorite-list] Re: Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Bob Martino
Steven, So you're saying that we can have oxidation without oxygen? Sounds like an oxymoron to me. :) - Bob Martino, Tucson, AZ Can you really name a star? Read the Truth! http://home.columbus.rr.com/starfaq/ . At 08:10 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, Charles R. Viau wrote: Oxidation -

RE: [meteorite-list] Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread S. Singletary
Nope. I call that, as will any chemist you ask, an oxidation-reduction reaction. Oxidation is the loss of electrons, nothing more nothing less. Steven At 08:32 PM 9/17/2003 -0400, you wrote: Ok, so for the symantics of that definition, would you call that a reduction reaction not involving

[meteorite-list] strange meteor?

2003-09-17 Thread Tom aka James Knudson
Hello List, I was outside a few minutes ago and saw something I have not seen before and was wondering if any of you have? I saw a nice sized meteor heading NW. What was different, was instead of fading out, it broke up and seemed to slam on the brakes. It did not break up into a few pieces

[meteorite-list] Re:dronino (in)stability: a solution ?

2003-09-17 Thread Fredmeteorhall
Dear Rust Sufferers, Two other methods of stopping rust are Bill Mason's kit and Naval Jelly, or as my daughter would say, Navel Belly Button Jelly. I used Bill's kit to stop rust on a large, beautiful slice of Nantan, still rust free after two Summers. I let slices of rusting Lake Murray and

[meteorite-list] Rusty Iron Meteorwrong?

2003-09-17 Thread Popocatept
Fellow listees: While looking in the woods for Park Forest Meteorites I found a rusty somewhat angular chunk of Iron. I know the odds of it being meteorite are about a million to one, but I took it home since it was the only thing I found, and because its shape was not like any obvious tool.

Re: [meteorite-list] Re: Serious question?

2003-09-17 Thread Pekka Savolainen
Well, oxidation, or the redox reaction is in fact a very board family of reactions. Electrons dont just leave from or go to the outer space; they transfer. A reaction that involve an oxidation, and any such reaction is a redox reaction. The reactant that causes the reduction of something is

Re: [meteorite-list] Rusty Iron Meteorwrong?

2003-09-17 Thread M come Meteorite Meteorites
Hello The unique is cut a piece and etched with nitol this and see if exit the patterns. Regards Matteo --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Fellow listees: While looking in the woods for Park Forest Meteorites I found a rusty somewhat angular chunk of Iron. I know the odds of it being