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2022-04-11 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 11 Apr 2022 00:12:26 +: > I have tested your last formscanner_experimental_2.zip project. > > Wow, kind of magical that it can scan and translate the captions of > all the forms **without** the need to assign the new caption for each > widget, like

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2022-04-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Sieghard. Forget my previous proposition about replace procedure into function, there is the "verbose" variable to set to "false" to disable the "writeln()". I have a "Exception" error at running the ideU-formscanner project with this: "List index(11) out of bounds" But clicking on

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2022-04-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hallo Sieghard, > as you might have seen by the "ideU" example. I have tested your last formscanner_experimental_2.zip project. Wow, kind of magical that it can scan and translate the captions of all the forms **without** the need to assign the new caption for each widget, like I did in ideU.

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2022-04-10 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sun, 10 Apr 2022 11:58:12 +: > For info, there is a topic now in Lazarus forum about LCLTranslator, > the "formscanner" for Lazarus LCL widgetset. > https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,59010.0.html Thank you for the information, I'll

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2022-04-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. For info, there is a topic now in Lazarus forum about LCLTranslator, the "formscanner" for Lazarus LCL widgetset. https://forum.lazarus.freepascal.org/index.php/topic,59010.0.html But it seems that LCLTranslator does not have all the features that your "MSE formscanner" has,

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2022-04-02 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 2 Apr 2022 15:47:03 +: > I dont see "formscanner" unit, is it on a other zip? Sorry, I got to amend my previous reply - there IS a more recent version of the "formscannr" unit. This dos not affct the functions extracting caption and similar text

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2022-04-02 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > The new POtoMO unit just handles multi-line msgids now, as this was > neccessitated by some very long captions of your ideU. Ha, ok, tested and works out-of-the box. I updated the mseide-msegui tool with your new code:

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2022-04-02 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 2 Apr 2022 15:47:03 +: > I think I can find some time tonight to jump into your code (but dont > say it to anybody). No problem, don't hurry, there's no need to. > I downloaded http://schs.de/download/mse/POtoMO.zip but > > > You can verify the

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2022-04-02 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Sieghard. I think I can find some time tonight to jump into your code (but dont say it to anybody). I downloaded http://schs.de/download/mse/POtoMO.zip but > You can verify the processing of multi-line msgids using the included "ideU_de.po" (and associated ".mo") file, which I

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2022-04-02 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > There's an new version of the "POtoMO" unit (& demo program) available on my mse download area of my web site. Many thanks for this. I will deeply study your code ( sadly, not before end of next week ). Write you later. Have a perfect spring. Fre;D

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2022-03-29 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. Sorry for that late answer (I am very busy those last weeks). > ... > Perhaps you have an idea how to help out with those retrictions? I need to jump into your code and msegui related, I dont have any idea without this. I may find some free time next week. Write you later.

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2022-03-23 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Wed, 23 Mar 2022 02:46:16 +: > >> Ok, tested and I get verigo... > > You got _what_? > > Vertigo: a sensation of whirling and loss of balance, associated Ah, it was just a typo. Sorry, but, on the other hand, I was really uneducated about the sensation

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2022-03-22 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Tue, 22 Mar 2022 14:44:57 +: > > file name "formscanner_experimental.zip" > > Ok, tested and I get verigo... You got _what_? > With your formscanner it opens the way to a "totally dynamic po-mo" > loader, no need to declare enums nor arrays of

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2022-03-22 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Siegard. > file name "formscanner_experimental.zip" Ok, tested and I get verigo... With your formscanner it opens the way to a "totally dynamic po-mo" loader, no need to declare enums nor arrays of strings, all is done by your scanner. Well, of course it is much easier for the developer,

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2022-03-21 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Siegard. > as a non-trivial demonstration) on my web site, file name > "formscanner_experimental.zip" (to leave no doubt about its status). Ha, ok, many thanks. Write you later after deep testing. Fre;D ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list

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2022-03-21 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sun, 20 Mar 2022 02:26:56 +: > About MOdemo and caption extractor (see previous post in bottom of > page). > > Maybe it would be better to re-group the mseide-msegui/tools/POdemo > and MOdemo projects into one only POMOdemo project. ( So feel free to

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2022-03-21 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. >["self operating" string extractor] > it is still "work in progress", so I will just provide an experimental > version for testing purposes. You can imagine that I am **very** interested and curious about your string extractor. Sadly I did not find in your post where to

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2022-03-20 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sun, 20 Mar 2022 01:47:05 +: > >> I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the ... > Like explained in my previous post, I updated last week Alright then, it wasn't quite clear to me that this applied to this latest version when I

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2022-03-19 Thread Fred van Stappen
things?msegui_dymsegui_dynpo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10npo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10 Hello Sieghard. >> I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the >> podemo version of mseide-msegui, it crash at run. Could you, please, >Are there any news on

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2022-03-19 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. >> I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the >> podemo version of mseide-msegui, it crash at run. Could you, please, >Are there any news on this? What about the full version I made >available? Like explained in my previous post, I updated last week

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2022-03-19 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:29:35 +: > I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the > podemo version of mseide-msegui, it crash at run. Could you, please, Are there any news on this? What about the full version I made available? Anyway, and

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2022-03-15 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 14 Mar 2022 23:29:35 +: > I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the > podemo version of mseide-msegui, it crash at run. Could you, please, > zip all the files, I dont find what podemo version to use with your That's

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2022-03-15 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. The demo mseide-msegui-MOdemo was updated using the 'Sieghard' way for language: https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/tree/main/tools/POtools/MOdemo Of course feel free to do change like you want, the same for POdemo. Fre;D ___

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2022-03-14 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 14 Mar 2022 22:21:35 +: > > "podemo4stock.zip", an adapted version of your > > prior "podemo" program, and "ideU_mo4stock.zip", a modified version ... > > I hope everything works out correctly for you too and you can enjoy > > the new version. > >

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2022-03-14 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Sieghard. I try to use your "podemo4stock.zip" updated files but with the podemo version of mseide-msegui, it crash at run. Could you, please, zip all the files, I dont find what podemo version to use with your files. The podemo source are in /mseide-msegui/tools/POtools/ Github:

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2022-03-14 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hallo Sieghard, > "podemo4stock.zip", an adapted version of your > prior "podemo" program, and "ideU_mo4stock.zip", a modified version of > your ideU making use of the new unit. ... > Now, I added a function "FUNCTION setLangFilePattern: string" that > defines a "pattern" for the specification of

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2022-03-13 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, you can get the latest (still development) versions of the "mo4stock" unit for localization / translation from my web space now. It is contained within two new files, which also serve for demonstration purposes: "podemo4stock.zip", an adapted version of your prior "podemo"

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2022-03-13 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 12 Mar 2022 22:12:00 +: > > Here Russian and Hebrew are shown correctly, Arabic and Chinese only > > produce rectangles. > > Ha, that is good news, I mean, if your Linux system cannot show > Arabic and mine well, maybe our both systems need a

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2022-03-12 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > Here Russian and Hebrew are shown correctly, Arabic and Chinese only > produce rectangles. Ha, that is good news, I mean, if your Linux system cannot show Arabic and mine well, maybe our both systems need a "trick" to install Chinese ideograms. >> BGRABitmap and his BGRAText

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2022-03-12 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 12 Mar 2022 16:03:13 +: > Just for curiosity, how is the rendering of no-latin characters > (Russian, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese) on your system with ideU? Here on > Linux Debian 10, all characters are correctly rendered, apart Chinese > ideograms.

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2022-03-12 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. Just for curiosity, how is the rendering of no-latin characters (Russian, Hebrew, Arabic, Chinese) on your system with ideU? Here on Linux Debian 10, all characters are correctly rendered, apart Chinese ideograms. On Windows 10, all is correctly rendered, also Chinese

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2022-03-12 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 12 Mar 2022 00:12:26 +: > >nguage sign: could you explain what "illegal lesson" (leçon illegale) > > means? > > Hum, good question. Well, it was rather a rhetorical question... > In french I translated it with: > > msgid "Illegal instruction"

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2022-03-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. Many thanks for the POtoMO fixes. It was commited in https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/ in /tools/POtools/POtoMO/ Have a nice week end. Fre;D ___ mseide-msegui-talk mailing list mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net

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2022-03-11 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:24:22 +: > I only found 1 problem with 1 file during conversion of po files > using your POtoMO converter. It is with the ideu_fr.po, the Yes, there was a problem with the hash space size calculation. It produced a size that caused

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2022-03-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hallo Sieghard. > But, as an aside, as you still use the old version of the german >nguage sign: could you explain what "illegal lesson" (leçon illegale) > means? Hum, good question. In french I translated it with: msgid "Illegal instruction" msgstr "Instruction illégale" It is part of

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2022-03-11 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Fri, 11 Mar 2022 16:24:22 +: > > I did not touch to your MO file code, it still work with the ... > Huh, not really, last night I commited change after playing with your > code ( perfectly clear, I should adopt if for PO file ), removed all >

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2022-03-11 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > I did not touch to your MO file code, it still work with the > "lang-name const array" way. Huh, not really, last night I commited change after playing with your code ( perfectly clear, I should adopt if for PO file ), removed all dependencies to en_langnametext (that does

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2022-03-11 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Wed, 9 Mar 2022 00:06:32 +: > About the lang name array. Well - I'm tempted to make a multi lang joke from this, understandable in german only: You know that "lang" in german means "long" (longue), so a german might read your sentence above as

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2022-03-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. The last for tonight... OK, I updated mo4stock.pas and mo2array with the 'Sieghard' way. https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/archive/refs/heads/main.zip MO files works like charm (see picture). Many thanks for your MO

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2022-03-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard, it is me again... OK, I adopted your way for PO files. It is way better, no more lang-name constants, no complicated check for lang code, no limitation of number of po files, and much more. (See picture). The change are commited in ideU (the new PO files in /src/lang are

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2022-03-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
-MSEgui-talk] UTF things?msegui_dymsegui_dynpo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10npo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10 Hello Sieghard. After lot of think, imho, your proposition is the best. Adding all the languages of the world translated for each language need lot of more work and the result is not really

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2022-03-10 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. After lot of think, imho, your proposition is the best. Adding all the languages of the world translated for each language need lot of more work and the result is not really util. So, if I understand ok your way, there will only have one language entry for each po/mo file:

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2022-03-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-re-re hello Sieghard. About the array "en_langnamestext" of mseconst.pas that is in conflict with "en_langnamestext" of captionideu.pas. It is fixed in last commit of mseide-mesgui (see previous post). Anyway, without that commit, this should work too: in mo4stock.pas, in uses section, set

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2022-03-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-re hello Sieghard. Following previous post... OK, the bug in mseconst.pas is fixed: https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/archive/refs/heads/main.zip Note that you **must* rebuild the application with -B (build all) option. That very old fpc bug is not yet fixed: without -B parameter fpc

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2022-03-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-re hello Sieghard. Following previous post... OK, the bug in mseconst.pas is fixed: https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/archive/refs/heads/main.zip Note that you **must* rebuild the application with -B (build all) option. That very old fpc bug is not yet fixed: without -B parameter fpc

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2022-03-09 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > 'm afraid I have to come back to the previous issue of a fixed size > "en_langnamestext" array being declared within the "mseconsts" unit. Ooops and re-ooops. You are totally right, there is a bug there, it should be declared in {$ifndef mse_dynpo} but it is not. I will fix

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2022-03-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-re hello Sieghard. > One possible way out that I see would be to simply _NOT_ translate t> he language names at all, but instaed display them all in their OWN l> anguage and writing. Yes, nice way too. About the Setting-Lang menu item. Indeed, very easy to be lost if you dont know the

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2022-03-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Sieghard. Following previous post... A other solution is to add the missing lang names of the world + code into the actual en_langnames array. And to define the list of languages disponible, check the po/mo files in /lang directory. Of course update all the the existing po/mo files

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2022-03-08 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. About the lang name array. Maybe the best is to forget to have the translation of the name-languages for each po file. And only use a fixed array of all the Lang-Code + Lang-English-name and define the lang name to store in the lang-name-array checking what po/mo files are in

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2022-03-08 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, I'm afraid I have to come back to the previous issue of a fixed size "en_langnamestext" array being declared within the "mseconsts" unit. Last time, when I admitted that this array was NOT declared when "mse_dynpo" was defined, I'm no longer sure whether this was with the

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2022-03-08 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Tue, 8 Mar 2022 01:47:35 +: > At the moment, without recompilation, if you add new mo/po file > in /lang directory, in the languages list of /menu/settings/lang, the > new language will appear at end of list with only, as name, > 'Language" and the

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2022-03-07 Thread Fred van Stappen
ndi 7 mars 2022 22:53 À : mseide-msegui-talk@lists.sourceforge.net Cc : Sieghard Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] UTF things?msegui_dymsegui_dynpo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10npo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10 Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 7 Mar 2022 00:52:48 +: > >I foun

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2022-03-07 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Mon, 7 Mar 2022 00:52:48 +: > >I found a real problem with the po4stock unit: ... > Hum, not really (or I miss something). > "en_langnamestext", contains 6 entries only if you dont use the > parameter " -dmse_dynpo". Those 6 entries correspond to the

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2022-03-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. >I found a real problem with the po4stock unit: > Internally, it uses the "mseconsts" unit, which defines a few "generic" > arrays of strings, among them the array "en_langnamestext", containing > 6 entries. Now, as that is a _constant_ array, it cannot accept more > entries, but

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2022-03-06 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sun, 6 Mar 2022 00:00:23 +: > Yes, I know it is very boring and each time that a bug appears, it is > very sad because it kills the current version. I really hope that > last commit has fixed everything but I cannot guaranty it. There can't be a

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2022-03-06 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. >BTW, did you realize the modified version of POtoMO, and did you test > whether this could resolve your translation problems? OK, re-downloaded http://schs.de/download/mse/POtoMO.zip. Compilation: out-of-the-box. Producing MO file from updated PO files: PERFECT! Also very nice

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2022-03-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
dimanche 6 mars 2022 01:00 À : General list for MSEide+MSEgui Objet : Re: [MSEide-MSEgui-talk] UTF things?msegui_dymsegui_dynpo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10npo-mod.zip │ 108404│03. Mär 19:10 Hello Sieghard. > When releases, or just > amendments, occur faster than one can adopt the mod

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2022-03-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. > When releases, or just > amendments, occur faster than one can adopt the modifications, > progress may not only slow down but even reverse. Yes, I know it is very boring and each time that a bug appears, it is very sad because it kills the current version. I really hope that

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2022-03-05 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 5 Mar 2022 16:05:05 +: > > mseide (version 5.6.5 from 17.Feb 2022). > > Ho but this is already a old version, there was a release 5.6.6 > 2022-02-21 and it is version 5.6.7 at the moment. The next release > will be 5.6.8. > The last commit of

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2022-03-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Re-hello Sieghard. > as this gives me an "Access violation" error" when opened in > mseide (version 5.6.5 from 17.Feb 2022). Ho but this is already a old version, there was a release 5.6.6 2022-02-21 and it is version 5.6.7 at the moment. The next release will be 5.6.8. The last commit of

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2022-03-05 Thread Fred van Stappen
Hello Sieghard. Thanks for your kind remarks. Your code is added in last ideU commit: https://github.com/fredvs/ideU/archive/refs/heads/main.zip Note that you will need to use the directory /ideu/src/lang who has the po and mo files (check your Settings/General Settings/Directory_of_lang). In

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2022-03-05 Thread Sieghard via mseide-msegui-talk
Hallo Fred van Stappen, vous ecrit au Sat, 5 Mar 2022 00:50:12 +: > About your POtoMO tool: > https://github.com/mse-org/mseide-msegui/tree/main/tools/POtools/POtoMO > > When I use it to re-create a MO file from a updated PO file of ideU > project, the PO result is not synchro with the