Re: [PD] [PD-dev] does anyone know of a good Eq I can use?

2009-03-20 Thread Bryan Jurish
moin babysco, if you're on linux, you could use the LADSPA plugin 'Multiband EQ (1197/mbeq)'. Check if it's installed with: $ listplugins | grep mbeq Instantiate it in Pd with [plugin~ mbeq]. Send it 'control #N VAL' messages, where N is an integer between 1 and 16 (inclusive), and VAL is a

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Matt Barber
hmm.. generally this could be a good idea, but message sending is most useful when initialising a number of receives ie: [loadbang]  | |; init-1 6          / |; init-2 symbol foo | |; init-3 -2         \ which is far more elegant than the the trigger/send replacement, especially with

Re: [PD] does anyone know of a good Eq I can use?

2009-03-20 Thread patrick
hi babsyco, please only send your question to pd-list@iem.at i am using hml_shelf, in pdmtl abstractions it's fx.eq~ http://wiki.dataflow.ws/PdMtlAbstractions it's 3 bands, but i think it's very easy to modify. might be wrong. pat ___

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
I am not proposing to limit the use of dollar args in message boxes for dynamic sends, that is a very useful feature. The example you give here, though, is an example of a shortcut for typing, there is no other benefit that I can see. And at the risk of sounding pedantic, I am going to

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Fri, 3/20/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: dmotd dm...@gmx.net Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 20, 2009, 5:25 PM I am not proposing to limit the use of

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Matt Barber
Also note that some objects, e.g. [qlist], positively depend on the message sending style.  My students who wanted to use them have often wondered why we hadn't covered the two ways of sending more in depth. Can you explain with an example?  I don't understand why you must use message boxes

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Frank Barknecht
Hallo, Matt Barber hat gesagt: // Matt Barber wrote: So in order to have my students understand [qlist] and its files, they have found it very useful to know about the message system in message boxes... it makes the message system in Pd on the whole a lot more understandable and less

[PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread João Pais
Hi, after creating a structure (object) with append, is it possible to delete it? Or just better hide it with 0 on the drawing objects? (the patch is only to display data, not to be used by the user) João -- Friedenstr. 58 10249 Berlin (Deutschland) Tel +49 30 42020091 | Mob +49 162

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 20, 2009, at 1:34 PM, Matt Barber wrote: hmm.. generally this could be a good idea, but message sending is most useful when initialising a number of receives ie: [loadbang] | |; init-1 6 / |; init-2 symbol foo | |; init-3 -2 \ which is far more elegant than the the

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: I am not proposing to limit the use of dollar args in message boxes for dynamic sends, that is a very useful feature. The example you give here, though, is an example of a shortcut for typing, there is no other benefit that I can see.

Re: [PD] DIY GSoC: getting those projects done

2009-03-20 Thread Rich E
Of course it would be nice to do the projects regardless of funding, but in reality they just won't get the same attention to detail and thoroughness. I don't have a job except through grants like this.. I'm still all for making apython libpd module... but who knows when summer rolls around and

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Mathieu Bouchard
On Fri, 20 Mar 2009, Frank Barknecht wrote: For example I'd rather start with making people properly left-align their patches and avoid crossing patch cords well, I do my best to reduce the number of crossings, but if I have to avoid crossings completely, I'll just avoid Pd... Pd doesn't

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
I don't think it's possible to delete a ds object unless selecting it with the mouse (or maybe with the mouse msg). Notice that if you turn off drawing instructions by using an inlet to [filledcurve], for example, all other visible data structures will flash off and on again. I think that's

[PD] Patch-off (Was: Re: style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( )

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
Ok, I'd like to propose a patch-off. What's the cleanest, clearest way to present adsr.pd from the audio tutorials? I choose this patch because there are lots of crossed wires, plus one has to leave space for the explanatory comments of the patch. Here are two versions I could think of.

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread João Pais
I don't think it's possible to delete a ds object unless selecting it with the mouse (or maybe with the mouse msg). I thought so as well. so a better choice might be to hide it. Notice that if you turn off drawing instructions by using an inlet to [filledcurve], for example, all other

[PD] pd extended 64 bit?

2009-03-20 Thread bigswift
Hello I am looking for a version of pd- extended for 64 bit. Does something exist yet? At my job we just some Nvidia Quadro plex with 8 video outputs, but the machine is 64 bit. Also any tips on running ubuntu with one of these Nvidia monster cards [Quadro Plex] woudl be greatly appreciated

Re: [PD] sigmund~ env output

2009-03-20 Thread Miller Puckette
Hmm - there shouldn't be any difference between sigmund~'s env output and that of env~. What latform are you on? Perhaps I should check this out. cheers Miller On Thu, Mar 19, 2009 at 03:51:44AM -0700, Oded Ben-Tal wrote: should the output of: [sigmund~ env] be the same (or very

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread João Pais
ah, now I know. it never happened to me, because I never used enough to make them visible. that's a nice example patch. btw, in order to control the display of the individual elements I used -v in the definitions of the base struct (that gets taken by the array). that allows for individual

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread João Pais
sorry, forgot to ask: and there's also no way of deleting an array without deleting the whole window with clear, is there? ah, now I know. it never happened to me, because I never used enough to make them visible. that's a nice example patch. btw, in order to control the display of the

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 20, 2009, at 5:51 PM, Jonathan Wilkes wrote: --- On Fri, 3/20/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: dmotd dm...@gmx.net Cc: pd-list@iem.at Date: Friday, March 20,

Re: [PD] data-structures short questions

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com wrote: From: João Pais jmmmp...@googlemail.com Subject: Re: [PD] data-structures short questions To: Jonathan Wilkes jancs...@yahoo.com, PD-List pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:37 AM sorry, forgot to ask: and there's

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 20, 2009, at 6:28 PM, Matt Barber wrote: Also note that some objects, e.g. [qlist], positively depend on the message sending style. My students who wanted to use them have often wondered why we hadn't covered the two ways of sending more in depth. Can you explain with an example?

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-20 Thread Hans-Christoph Steiner
On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 10/03/2009, at 18.11, Hans-Christoph Steiner wrote: (...) and the green/white toggle from [pddp/dsp]. I quite strongly think [cvn]'s tricks should be avoided in help patches, especially those default for vanilla

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Matt Barber
Ah, ok, I get it, the text in the msg boxes is basically the same as the text in the qlist file.  That makes sense, and in the context of [qlist] I think it makes sense to teach about [; foo( sends.  But I don't think that [qlist] is an essential object, especially for newbies.  I am not

Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo(

2009-03-20 Thread Jonathan Wilkes
--- On Sat, 3/21/09, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org wrote: From: Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.org Subject: Re: [PD] style guide idea: [send foo] versus [; foo( To: jancs...@yahoo.com Cc: dmotd dm...@gmx.net, pd-list@iem.at Date: Saturday, March 21, 2009, 2:48 AM On Mar 20, 2009,

Re: [PD] default [output~] in Pd-extended

2009-03-20 Thread Kyle Klipowicz
I likey! Although, it would be nice to include [outlet~]s on the bottom to pass through to recording devices. ~Kyle On Fri, Mar 20, 2009 at 9:44 PM, Hans-Christoph Steiner h...@eds.orgwrote: On Mar 11, 2009, at 8:42 AM, IOhannes m zmoelnig wrote: Steffen Juul wrote: On 10/03/2009, at