Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-16 Thread John
Most every thing that's been mentioned so far (other than Lady Chatterly) was required reading sometime during my high school years, although Shirley Jackson's short story The Lottery was about as close to science fiction as we got. OTOH, the school library had a fairly complete collection of

RE: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-16 Thread Malcolm Smith
Paul Sorenson wrote: At that age I would have preferred Lawrence's discussion of Lady Chatterly Ha! No such luck; I had years of Shakespeare' plays, most of which I've come to loath as a result of being force fed them - and I'm still not convinced he wrote them all anyway. Malcolm -- PDML

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread Paul Sorenson
At that age I would have preferred Lawrence's discussion of Lady Chatterly Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: For our sins, my year got a collection of short stories by D H Lawrence. In fairness, I quite enjoyed them and I read them

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread John
Especially the illustrated version. On 2/15/2015 8:22 AM, Paul Sorenson wrote: At that age I would have preferred Lawrence's discussion of Lady Chatterly Sent from my iPad On Feb 14, 2015, at 10:56 PM, Malcolm Smith rrve...@virginmedia.com wrote: For our sins, my year got a collection of

RE: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread John Coyle
For my English Literature GCE, we read Who Dares Wins, a story about a British soldier in Greece following the collapse in 1941, Macbeth, and collection of poetry, the title or content of which my mind refuses to recall. I remember the first book as a great story and an exciting read for a

RE: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread John Coyle
Hey Larry - I re-read the complete Lensman series just last year - and enjoyed it, but found my reading of it much more perceptive of style than when I first did, in my 30's. I don't think its great literature, but the concepts are amazing! John in Brisbane -Original Message- From:

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread steve harley
On 2015-02-14 13:08 , Steve Cottrell wrote: I always thought Asimov was overrated. I was a big fan of Larry Niven, Clarke, Farmer, Heinlein, and a good dozen more. of the sci fi i read in my early teens, little stands out of Asimov's at least, but i started reading his non-fiction books and

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-15 Thread Darren Addy
OK, regarding Asimov... he's the perfect example of a horrible writer with great concepts. Nothing stands out? Really? His 3 laws of Robotics are rather seminal (I, Robot). His entire fictional theme of Predictive Sociology in the Foundation Trilogy pretty much came true through Big Data and the

RE: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Malcolm Smith
Steve Cottrell wrote: Malcolm, in my sophomore year at (American) high school, I did a semester course called 'Predictive Literature'. It was basically reading and writing science fiction, and counted towards to overall English grades required. 6 months of sci-fi! This was 1975/6. We

RE: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Malcolm Smith
Darren Addy wrote: Badly written can still be enjoyed if it has clever concepts and the book was full of clever concepts. I would call it mostly amusing rather than funny. In any event, oneshould probably know them just if one is going to be literate in the cultural references, unless you

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Darren Addy
Badly written can still be enjoyed if it has clever concepts and the book was full of clever concepts. I would call it mostly amusing rather than funny. In any event, oneshould probably know them just if one is going to be literate in the cultural references, unless you enjoy things regularly

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Bill
On 14/02/2015 3:03 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic idea is a good one, badly executed, and I've never understood the Douglas Adams worship. B

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Darren Addy
Except that's not currently how 3D printers work. However, who knows where 3D printer technology will be by the time the Pentax FF actually ships! I suggest the following alternative: http://www.instructables.com/id/edible-party-hat/ On Sat, Feb 14, 2015 at 2:01 PM, Steve Cottrell

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread John
On 2/14/2015 3:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: For my English Literature 'O' Levels (or whatever the exams are called this week for those of around 16 years of age), I got a book of short stories. A few years later, my friend's brother, a few

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread John
On 2/14/2015 3:08 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic idea is a good one, badly executed,

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread J C OConnell
there is already technology today to 3D print edible food, not sure chocaolate is viable, but limited foods can already be done. google it. jco On 2/14/2015 3:05 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Except that's not currently how 3D printers work. However, who knows where 3D printer technology will be by

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Mark Roberts
Bob W-PDML wrote: On 14 Feb 2015, at 20:58, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2/14/2015 3:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: For my English Literature 'O' Levels (or whatever the exams are called this week for those of around 16 years

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/2/15, J C OConnell, discombobulated, unleashed: Hey Cotty could use a 3D printer to make the hat and use chocaolate as the material! Not a bad idea! -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/2/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic idea is a good one, badly executed, and I've never understood the Douglas Adams

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 14/2/15, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: For my English Literature 'O' Levels (or whatever the exams are called this week for those of around 16 years of age), I got a book of short stories. A few years later, my friend's brother, a few years younger than us, got the Hitchhiker's

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread John
On 2/14/2015 4:03 AM, Bob W-PDML wrote: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic idea is a good one, badly executed, and I've never understood the Douglas Adams worship. B

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 14 Feb 2015, at 20:58, John sesso...@earthlink.net wrote: On 2/14/2015 3:11 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Malcolm Smith, discombobulated, unleashed: For my English Literature 'O' Levels (or whatever the exams are called this week for those of around 16 years of age), I got a

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread John
Foodini https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7HX9tVCbm5g On 2/14/2015 3:05 PM, Darren Addy wrote: Except that's not currently how 3D printers work. However, who knows where 3D printer technology will be by the time the Pentax FF actually ships! I suggest the following alternative:

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Brian Walters
Quoting Darren Addy pixelsmi...@gmail.com: Badly written can still be enjoyed if it has clever concepts and the book was full of clever concepts. I would call it mostly amusing rather than funny. In any event, oneshould probably know them just if one is going to be literate in the cultural

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread P.J. Alling
On 2/14/2015 4:08 PM, John wrote: On 2/14/2015 3:08 PM, Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Bob W-PDML
On 14 Feb 2015, at 04:05, Mark Roberts postmas...@robertstech.com wrote: Larry Colen wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I seem to remember Pentax showing a mockup or prototype before, which never actually hit the streets. I could show a mockup of a time machine, doesn't mean I'll ever be able to

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-14 Thread Larry Colen
Steve Cottrell wrote: On 14/2/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: I'm about to be heretical. I read the HGTTG when it was fairly recently published, and was deeply underwhelmed. I think it's badly written and unfunny. The basic idea is a good one, badly executed, and I've never

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Ken Waller
Interestingly, the mockup has Pentax on the front and back - so there Cotty, its a Pentax BG Kenneth Waller http://www.pentaxphotogallery.com/kennethwaller - Original Message - From: P.J. Alling webstertwenty...@gmail.com Subject: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Still looks like a big, blocky thing. G It's a link to the Pentax Fora, sorry about that. http://www.pentaxforums.com/forums/16-pentax-news-rumors/288490-unveiling-full-frame-prototype.html -- PDML Pentax-Discuss Mail List PDML@pdml.net http://pdml.net/mailman/listinfo/pdml_pdml.net to

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread P.J. Alling
It would be pretty blocky, it's got a FF prism, an articulating screen, and a full frame mirror box, and probably a very powerful, for a camera body at least autofocus motor, all of which take up space. It's still probably smaller than a Canon EOS with none of those things. On 2/13/2015

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Bob W-PDML
I seem to remember Pentax showing a mockup or prototype before, which never actually hit the streets. I could show a mockup of a time machine, doesn't mean I'll ever be able to travel forward to 2525 to watch Cotty eat his hat when the camera is available in whatever passes for shops then.

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Steve Cottrell
On 13/2/15, Bob W-PDML, discombobulated, unleashed: That's why I want him to eat it now, on credit so to speak. Everything's got to be now with you city folk. -- Cheers, Cotty ___/\__Broadcast, Corporate, || (O) |Web Video Production --www.seeingeye.tv

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
The problem that stopped the Contax and MZ-D in their tracks was that Phillips was unable to manufacture the sensor to spec, on time, and in sufficient volume at the agreed upon price. The camera manufacturers dropped the project rather than renegotiate the deal because the performance was so

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Bruce Walker
But if you use a 3D printer to create your time machine mockup, and then photoshop the shots you'll convince way more people and ignite some great firestorms on the Time Machine User forums. On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 1:59 PM, Bob W-PDML p...@web-options.com wrote: I seem to remember Pentax showing

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread P.J. Alling
The previous FF Pentax the so called MZ-D was actually out for testing, not a mockup, but hand assembled working prototypes, (there were supposedly 6 of them almost released to the wild). I expect that Pentax dropped plans for it's production because, it was only 6mp and would have cost an

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread J C OConnell
Hey Cotty could use a 3D printer to make the hat and use chocaolate as the material! jco On 2/13/2015 2:10 PM, Bruce Walker wrote: But if you use a 3D printer to create your time machine mockup, and then photoshop the shots you'll convince way more people and ignite some great firestorms on the

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread P.J. Alling
You probably saw a production model not a prototype, since it actually made it to production. Here's the Luminous Landscape review, clearly stating it's a released product, though the review was posted after the camera was already withdrawn from the market.

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Bruce Walker
On Fri, Feb 13, 2015 at 3:34 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi godd...@me.com wrote: Kyocera decided to close up camera operations after that as it had been too expensive a loss and wasn't their main line of business. Pentax soldiered forth in a different direction with a smaller Sony sensor and a less

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Godfrey DiGiorgi
Possibly, the counter signs were all in Japanese and the representatives at the counter were no fluent English speakers. Given the date, it could have been an early production unit or very late prototype/test unit. I was not allowed to capture any images to my card, though: they had the card

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Larry Colen
Bob W-PDML wrote: I seem to remember Pentax showing a mockup or prototype before, which never actually hit the streets. I could show a mockup of a time machine, doesn't mean I'll ever be able to travel forward to 2525 to watch Cotty eat his hat when the camera is available in whatever

Re: An artists rendition of what a finished FF Pentax may look like.

2015-02-13 Thread Mark Roberts
Larry Colen wrote: Bob W-PDML wrote: I seem to remember Pentax showing a mockup or prototype before, which never actually hit the streets. I could show a mockup of a time machine, doesn't mean I'll ever be able to travel forward to 2525 to watch Cotty eat his hat when the camera is