Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Jos de Fotograaf wrote: This weekend my country (Netherlands) moved to summer time (DST) I could have changed the clock of my K1 the easy way by just set the clock 1 hour later. I decided to let it happen automatically. In the menu I selected "GPS time sync" Then I switched on GPS logging

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST? Problem solved!

That is clear to me, Jan, at first sight I am thinking that the time table info could be easily modulated on the GPS signal. I could not find detailed specification of the system and signals. Greetz, Jos On 28-Mar-17 14:42, Jan van Wijk wrote: Hallo Jos, On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:56 +0200

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST? Problem solved!

Hallo Jos, On Tue, 28 Mar 2017 11:19:56 +0200 Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > >_Is DST in the GPS info itself?_ No >Some members suggested that the camera needs look-up tables to see DST data of >specific countries. >I am not so sure about that. You need either DST tables (combined with timezone

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST? Problem solved!

_Problem solved!_ In the GPS/Compass menu I checked the "GPS time sync" box, I thought this should give automatic DST switching. But in the "World time" menu, I have home town Amsterdam and destination Amsterdam, then if you go one menu deeper, there is a check box for DST. Checking this

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Yes it would use UTC most likely. I must add that none of my cameras have ever transitioned to DST automatically. Maybe I am using it wrong somehow? Ok. I just looked at my K-3 and though it was set to Chicago as the city it never changed. It does have DST highlighted though next to it so I'm

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Well, yes and no. If you look at that standard Time/Date structure, (Gaud this is getting into the weeds), if the software is using it correctly it's stores UTC a flag and an offset to get the local time. I assume that the OS used by the camera includes a Time/Date object. I also assume it

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Many times when I travel across time zones (a) I don’t have GPS time activated, and (b) I don’t remember to adjust the clock. So I wind up with a bunch of files which are offset -5 hours. And I have considered just leaving it that way. However I often search through my photos with a time in

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 3:59 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > However the problem seems to be that > setting that flag on Jos' camera doesn't work, or maybe I completely > misunderstood the issue. I don't think Jos has changed the DST checkbox manually; at least he hasn't

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Yes, I know. That makes it not UTC. > On 27 Mar 2017, at 20:51, P. J. Alling wrote: > > It pretty much is on UTC. The current time zone is just an offset based on > the home city. > > >> On 3/27/2017 3:39 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: >> If I had a camera that had gps I

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

You're right, about the automatic DST change. You have to change the DST flag to display DST. I was wrong, at least about the K-5II. I'm not going to charge a battery for the K20D to test that or go through the rigamarole that's required to get the *istDs or D working just to them. I think

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

It pretty much is on UTC. The current time zone is just an offset based on the home city. On 3/27/2017 3:39 PM, Bob W-PDML wrote: If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record everything as UTC rather than try to account for different places. It makes life easier - one less

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Our Prime Minister fires the official starting gun for Brexit tomorrow. It's going to be interesting in two years when the actual exit happens to see how we will cope with setting the clocks back to 1972. I wonder if Little Jimmy Osmond will still be no. 1 in the pop charts. > On 27 Mar 2017,

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

If I had a camera that had gps I would just let it record everything as UTC rather than try to account for different places. It makes life easier - one less thing to clutter my head with. In fact even without gps I think I just leave them on UTC. > On 27 Mar 2017, at 19:15, Jos de Fotograaf

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 3:15 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > The K-5II does, the K20D does, the *ist-Ds does, though it's set in North > America at least to a hopelessly out dated change time, as is the *ist-D. My K10D, K-7, and K-5 II, set to New York, have never

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

The K-5II does, the K20D does, the *ist-Ds does, though it's set in North America at least to a hopelessly out dated change time, as is the *ist-D. Stan's description of how his two K-1's behave are consistent with that. So I think I'm pretty safe in assuming that the K-1 will, if working

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:49 PM, P. J. Alling wrote: > So there are a few possibilities. You set your home city to someplace that > has the same offset from GMT/UTC as WET but doesn't observe DST, or you've > set the camera to think you're traveling to such a city.

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Well I finally decided to look at time zones, and the Netherlands is on WET, which means that it's a major time zone, and DST changes for all of that time zone at the same time. Which by the measure of most software development teams is worth having in the cameras onboard time zone table. So

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Stan, you live in a major time zone, when firmware updates stop for the K-1, and the U.S. changes when DST starts and ends, as they did a few years ago, your camera will stop updating the time correctly too. I had that problem with my PC running an "outdated" OS. It required a patch, which

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 2:14 PM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > I will check with Ricoh/Pentax why there would be no DST timetable for the > Netherlands. As they should know US could be first but Netherlands are > second! Um, has anybody actually said that it changed

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Stan, your explanation of GPS sounds logic, thks. The GPS is also used when shooting ASTRO, but I did not try that yet. I will check with Ricoh/Pentax why there would be no DST timetable for the Netherlands. As they should know US could be first but Netherlands are second! Anyhow, I will

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Jos, my understanding is that the K-1 GPS Logging has nothing to do with photography. It allows you to treat your camera as though it were a GPS handheld device, but it is not connected to your basic camera functions. With Logging, a subroutine in the firmware will periodically query the GPS

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

I don't know for sure but I expect that the firmware doesn't have every different DST change programmed in. It wouldn't surprise me at all that the programmers tasked were following a requirement document that didn't include the Netherlands or a lot of other "smaller" districts that have

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Just because the K-1 has a GPS doesn't mean it knows about DST. For that you need an extra file of info listing for every country in the world the dates that DST in that country begins and ends. My Garmin gps for example has such a list (and that list gets regular updates) and the firmware to make

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

On Mon, Mar 27, 2017 at 10:29 AM, Jos de Fotograaf wrote: > Hi Matthew, that is a practical approach, but K1 has GPS and should know the > local time, Greetz, Jos Every year some countries in the world change their laws regarding time zones and DST. I would imagine

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Hi Stanley, thks. So it should work. I will contact local Pentax for info. Maybe you can help in understanding the GPS. What does the camera do when GPS logging is on? Reasoning behind selecting a certain logging interval and duration? Greetz, Jos On 27-Mar-17 15:16, Stanley Halpin wrote:

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

Hi Matthew, that is a practical approach, but K1 has GPS and should know the local time, Greetz, Jos On 27-Mar-17 15:04, Matthew Hunt wrote: I don't have a K-1, but none of my Pentax cameras have ever transitioned automatically between standard time and DST. That is, the camera does not know

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

I just checked mine. Both have GPS Time Sync turned on. On my primary K-1, I had DST checked. The indicated time was correct. On my backup, I had not checked DST in the Time submenu. The indicated time was off by one hour. I checked the DST Checkbox, the time immediately adjusted to the correct

Re: Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

I don't have a K-1, but none of my Pentax cameras have ever transitioned automatically between standard time and DST. That is, the camera does not know the rules for DST transitions, but instead relies on the user to tell it whether DST is in effect. The camera will use the timezone and DST

Why did my K1 not go automatically to DST?

This weekend my country (Netherlands) moved to summer time (DST) I could have changed the clock of my K1 the easy way by just set the clock 1 hour later. I decided to let it happen automatically. In the menu I selected "GPS time sync" Then I switched on GPS logging and left it on for one