Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

Hmm. Your experience is nothing like mine. What system are you using? 

For me (and I only use Apple equipment so I have no idea how Android or other 
touch devices respond), the iPad Pro in particular is every bit as responsive 
as any mouse and/or trackpad desktop computer. As a matter of fact, it's 
actually more responsive in many situations with better finger/touch/pointing 
accuracy, etc. It's so good in fact that when I'm working on one of the MacBook 
laptops I often touch the screen to affect something and wonder why it didn't 
respond until I realize that I'm on a different machine/OS, etc. 

I touch an icon and instantly the app is running and waiting for my input, or 
showing me what I wanted to see. If I'm using the soft keyboard, I can type 50 
wpm on it ... the keyboard gives a better tactile feel and gives me more screen 
real estate to work with. BTW, the keyboard cover adds an eighth of an inch to 
the overall thickness of the iPad Pro when closed and about four ounces, that's 
it; the machine remains just as portable. 

If you are experiencing that kind of poor responsiveness with an Apple iPad, 
let me know what model/configuration/iOS version you're using. Also, if you're 
on a model with limited storage and limited free space, be sure you don't have 
a lot of background-active apps and services running, slowing things down. 

G


> On Oct 18, 2016, at 1:30 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> What I find is that touchscreen environments are "fragile". With a
> keyboard and mouse I tell the computer what I want done whereas with a
> touchscreen I plead repeatedly with it to do what I'd like.
> 
> I touch an icon. Nothing happens. I touch it again, it maybe jiggles
> or flashes briefly. Third time it finally launches the app. Great, now
> I want to type a reply in Instagram so I get the virtual keyboard.
> Type a few letters, okay. Try to type a P which is near the edge of
> the screen -- no go. I try twisting my finger in several different
> orientations, on its side, straight down, nothing. Finally I get an
> ell or I accidentally enable the microphone.
> 
> It's always just an exercise in frustration. Getting the wrong action
> is frequent and getting a dangerous action is frequent enough to be
> really annoying. I end up deleting email instead of simply closing it
> or moving it to another folder. The number of times I have made the
> end of my finger sore by angrily stabbing at the screen when some UI
> element refuses to react is uncountable.
> 
> The Apple screens are way better than Android ones for sure, but they
> are all simply annoying and frustrating to use so I always do as
> little as possible on them then move my work to a desktop to get done.
> 
> If I really wanted to use the iPad on the go, I would get a real
> keyboard for it as you suggest. That would help no doubt, at the
> expense of making it somewhat less portable.


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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Steve Cottrell]

On 18/10/16, Godfrey DiGiorgi, discombobulated, unleashed:

>Cotty's Last Words: 'Bail, dammit! Bail!'

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 3:29 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>> (Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
>> dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
>> starting to do okay until you get to the wine glasses.)
>
> I have the keyboard cover for the iPad Pro. I'm typing this on it now. It's a 
> very nice keyboard, actually, even the small one on this 9.7 inch model. (I 
> have a 12.3 inch model as well, but I don't carry it around as much.) I've 
> written one and a half books on this iPad and put together presentations, a 
> few slide shows, a few spreadsheets, etc etc. I've also created videos and 
> integrated music, talk-over narration, etc. With a good drawing app and a 
> stylus, I can draw or work the screen to whatever resolution you might want 
> (although I'm a pretty horrible sketch artist according to my sketch artist 
> friends...). So I can't really agree with your analogy of 'wearing boxing 
> gloves' or 'doing anything creative' being difficult. It's pretty easy as a 
> matter of fact.
>
> Well crafted apps and good peripherals enable a lot. I wouldn't discount 
> them. Crappy apps and just a touchscreen aren't entirely adequate for 
> everything; a modern computer without a good mouse or touch pad, a good 
> keyboard, etc, is pretty useless too.


What I find is that touchscreen environments are "fragile". With a
keyboard and mouse I tell the computer what I want done whereas with a
touchscreen I plead repeatedly with it to do what I'd like.

I touch an icon. Nothing happens. I touch it again, it maybe jiggles
or flashes briefly. Third time it finally launches the app. Great, now
I want to type a reply in Instagram so I get the virtual keyboard.
Type a few letters, okay. Try to type a P which is near the edge of
the screen -- no go. I try twisting my finger in several different
orientations, on its side, straight down, nothing. Finally I get an
ell or I accidentally enable the microphone.

It's always just an exercise in frustration. Getting the wrong action
is frequent and getting a dangerous action is frequent enough to be
really annoying. I end up deleting email instead of simply closing it
or moving it to another folder. The number of times I have made the
end of my finger sore by angrily stabbing at the screen when some UI
element refuses to react is uncountable.

The Apple screens are way better than Android ones for sure, but they
are all simply annoying and frustrating to use so I always do as
little as possible on them then move my work to a desktop to get done.

If I really wanted to use the iPad on the go, I would get a real
keyboard for it as you suggest. That would help no doubt, at the
expense of making it somewhat less portable.

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:00 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Now _that_ would be worth the upgrade to me. You'd think the marketing
> folks would have emphasized that as a bullet point, but I guess it's
> not sexy enough.

What sells units is features, unfortunately. Runs counter to my intuition and 
logic too. I don't need many features, I like solid incremental improvement on 
a sound feature base.

>> (An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
>> photographic and publishing work.)
> 
> I carry my iPad around the house with me for checking email and such,
> so yeah, I get that. But I don't try to do anything creative with it.
> Nothing that requires typing or "mousing".
> 
> (Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
> dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
> starting to do okay until you get to the wine glasses.)

I have the keyboard cover for the iPad Pro. I'm typing this on it now. It's a 
very nice keyboard, actually, even the small one on this 9.7 inch model. (I 
have a 12.3 inch model as well, but I don't carry it around as much.) I've 
written one and a half books on this iPad and put together presentations, a few 
slide shows, a few spreadsheets, etc etc. I've also created videos and 
integrated music, talk-over narration, etc. With a good drawing app and a 
stylus, I can draw or work the screen to whatever resolution you might want 
(although I'm a pretty horrible sketch artist according to my sketch artist 
friends...). So I can't really agree with your analogy of 'wearing boxing 
gloves' or 'doing anything creative' being difficult. It's pretty easy as a 
matter of fact.

Well crafted apps and good peripherals enable a lot. I wouldn't discount them. 
Crappy apps and just a touchscreen aren't entirely adequate for everything; a 
modern computer without a good mouse or touch pad, a good keyboard, etc, is 
pretty useless too. 

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 12:04 PM, Godfrey DiGiorgi  wrote:
>
> Most of the work in Sierra is actually OS infrastructure that makes it 
> perform better on the same hardware I was running El Capitan on, from what I 
> see and what my use of it shows. That's what makes it worth more to me.

Now _that_ would be worth the upgrade to me. You'd think the marketing
folks would have emphasized that as a bullet point, but I guess it's
not sexy enough.


> (An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
> photographic and publishing work.)

I carry my iPad around the house with me for checking email and such,
so yeah, I get that. But I don't try to do anything creative with it.
Nothing that requires typing or "mousing".

(Doing anything creative using a touchscreen is like trying to set a
dining table for eight wearing boxing gloves. You might think you are
starting to do okay until you get to the wine glasses.)

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:56 AM, Stanley Halpin  
> wrote:
> 
> As long as you don’t sink the boat, it is all good…

Cotty's Last Words: 'Bail, dammit! Bail!'

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I'm not "feature driven" either; I hardly use any of that stuff either 
(although I do use the macOS Messages app quite a bit).

Most of the work in Sierra is actually OS infrastructure that makes it perform 
better on the same hardware I was running El Capitan on, from what I see and 
what my use of it shows. That's what makes it worth more to me. Plus the 
continuing, improvements in coordination of macOS with my phone and tablet 
usage. 

(An iPad Pro is now pretty much my 'standard computer' other than for 
photographic and publishing work.) 

G

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 8:46 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Thanks for that info, Dave. I was afraid of something like the Java
> installer becoming a problem.
> 
> I've been teetering on the brink of getting CC for a year now, but I
> may continue holding out for a while more. Sierra is the very first
> Mac OS X version that completely disinterests me, and if I simply
> avoid upgrading to it then I can also avoid CC for a while longer.
> 
> Sierra features: I don't need or want Siri. I already talk to my pets
> too much and I'm not about to start talking to my computer as well.
> Besides, I really dislike input devices that include a huge amount of
> randomness like touch screens and voice recognition. Keyboards and
> mice positively do what you direct them to do.
> 
> As I run down the remaining checkbox items on the features list there
> isn't a compelling thing there. Most of the features require either an
> Apple Watch or an iPhone to be useful and I have neither. Many
> features are just iOS influences. iCloud figures large in there --
> don't need it. Photos app? Useless. Messages? Don't use. Float video
> over my desktop while I work? Pxzt! Who thinks that's a good idea?
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:31 AM, David Mann  wrote:
>> You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding 
>> off updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
>> officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
>> trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get 
>> it to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an 
>> installer available for Sierra.
>> 
>> I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it 
>> was inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange 
>> rate is pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  
>> It does puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month 
>> payments.
>> 
>> I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
>> your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit 
>> card I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these 
>> years of Bridge.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Dave
>> 
>>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>> 
>>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>> 
>>> Thanks!
>>> 
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

Thanks for that info, Dave. I was afraid of something like the Java
installer becoming a problem.

I've been teetering on the brink of getting CC for a year now, but I
may continue holding out for a while more. Sierra is the very first
Mac OS X version that completely disinterests me, and if I simply
avoid upgrading to it then I can also avoid CC for a while longer.

Sierra features: I don't need or want Siri. I already talk to my pets
too much and I'm not about to start talking to my computer as well.
Besides, I really dislike input devices that include a huge amount of
randomness like touch screens and voice recognition. Keyboards and
mice positively do what you direct them to do.

As I run down the remaining checkbox items on the features list there
isn't a compelling thing there. Most of the features require either an
Apple Watch or an iPhone to be useful and I have neither. Many
features are just iOS influences. iCloud figures large in there --
don't need it. Photos app? Useless. Messages? Don't use. Float video
over my desktop while I work? Pxzt! Who thinks that's a good idea?


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 1:31 AM, David Mann  wrote:
> You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding 
> off updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
> officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
> trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get it 
> to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an 
> installer available for Sierra.
>
> I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it 
> was inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange rate 
> is pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  It does 
> puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month payments.
>
> I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
> your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit 
> card I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these 
> years of Bridge.
>
> Cheers,
> Dave
>
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>>
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Bruce Walker]

Dave, I'm running 10.11.6 El Capitan and Lr 4.4 works perfectly on it.
As does Photoshop CS5.


On Tue, Oct 18, 2016 at 8:01 AM, David J Brooks  wrote:
> Bruce, i use LR 4.1 with the 4.4 upgrade stored on my computer. Do i
> take it if i upgrade to 4.4 it should be ok using El Captain.??
>
> I know my old PS 8, or CS will not work nor will PSEL 9. My Fetch
> 5.3.1 should and i think the internet says my Word for Mac 2012 will,
> those are the most programs i use to date
>
> On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>>
>> Thanks!

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

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> On Oct 18, 2016, at 10:39 AM, Steve Cottrell  wrote:
> 
> I have a 3 sponges, a bucket, a small bowl, two tubs and a pond. All
> sink okay.
> 
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Steve Cottrell]

I have a 3 sponges, a bucket, a small bowl, two tubs and a pond. All
sink okay.


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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I have four iOS, one watchOS, and three macOS devices synced at present. No 
problems. 

G

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 4:32 AM, Paul Stenquist  wrote:
> 
> I have two OSX and one IOS device synced. OK so far.
> 
> Paul via phone
> 
>> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> Bruce Walker wrote:
>>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>>> 
>>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>> 
>> I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.
>> 
>> I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
>> remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.


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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

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Bruce, i use LR 4.1 with the 4.4 upgrade stored on my computer. Do i
take it if i upgrade to 4.4 it should be ok using El Captain.??

I know my old PS 8, or CS will not work nor will PSEL 9. My Fetch
5.3.1 should and i think the internet says my Word for Mac 2012 will,
those are the most programs i use to date

On Mon, Oct 17, 2016 at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>
> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
>
> Thanks!
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Paul Stenquist]

I have two OSX and one IOS device synced. OK so far.

Paul via phone

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 5:17 AM, Larry Colen  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
> Bruce Walker wrote:
>> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
>> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
>> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
>> 
>> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
> 
> I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.
> 
> I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
> remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.
> 
> 
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Larry Colen]

Bruce Walker wrote:

Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?

I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).


I'm running El Cap and LR 6.7.

I have heard of people having problems syncing multiple devices. I don't 
remember if that is multiple OSX and one IOS, or multiple IOS and one OSX.





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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Philip Northeast]

I have a late 2014 iMac running Sierra. I mainly use Lightroom but I 
haven't had any problems with photoshop. I have the subscription 
versions so they are the latest.


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On 18/10/16 4:31 pm, David Mann wrote:

You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding off 
updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get it 
to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an installer 
available for Sierra.

I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it was 
inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange rate is 
pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  It does 
puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month payments.

I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit card 
I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these years of 
Bridge.

Cheers,
Dave


On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:

Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?

I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).

Thanks!

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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[David Mann]

You're in a similar situation to me as I also have CS5.  I've been holding off 
updating to Sierra but I did a search today and found that CS5 is not 
officially tested/supported on Sierra.  It seems lots of people are having 
trouble with crashes and printing problems.  Some people couldn't even get it 
to run as it required a legacy Java dependency which doesn't have an installer 
available for Sierra.

I'm currently thinking about going to CC now.  I'm reluctant but I knew it was 
inevitable.  Adobe doesn't offer payment in NZD and the AUD exchange rate is 
pretty good right now, so I might go for a 12-month subscription.  It does 
puzzle me that buying 12 months offers no discount over 12x 1-month payments.

I have no idea about Lightroom but the situation is likely to be similar if 
your version is of similar vintage to CS5.  If (when) I get out the credit card 
I'll end up with Lightroom as well, which will be fun after all these years of 
Bridge.

Cheers,
Dave

> On Oct 18, 2016, at 7:41 AM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
> 
> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Stanley Halpin]

iOS10.0.2, OS 10.11.7, LR 6.7 (Camera RAW 9.7), Apple Watch 3.0

I have seen no issues with upgrades the last few cycles. 
I am disturbed by UI design changes in iOS10 and in the Watch 3.0. And I don’t 
like the Adobe subscription model. But I have seen no compatibility issues on 
my way to this setup.

stan

> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
> 
> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Paul Stenquist]

I haven’t had any problems with PhotoShop CS6 or Bridge on Sierra 10.12  and my 
late 2015 iMac 27 5K. However, Apple’s own Mail software has been problematic. 
Others have reported this as well. When first started under Sierra, it works 
fine but when clicking back to  Mail list after running other software it 
freezes and I have to quit Mail and restar itt. I should point out that I run 
three different mailboxes, including comcast.com,  through Apple Mail, so that 
may be part of the problem. The computer also crashes and restarts at times 
when In sleep mode. Everything else seems to be okay. My system is somewhat 
extreme with 6 external hard drives currently running and a second 27-inch 
monitor. I should have waited to upgrade, but I always get a kick out of 
exploring new tech. 

The addition of Siri is somewhat useful, although you have to click her open, 
so if you’re asking her to start an app, you might as well just start the app 
yourself. I do ask her to read my schedule. That’s useful. 

Hoping the first upgrade fixes the Mail and Sleep problems.

Paul
> On Oct 17, 2016, at 2:41 PM, Bruce Walker  wrote:
> 
> Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
> anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
> by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?
> 
> I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).
> 
> Thanks!
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Re: OT Mac OS Sierra - break anything photographic?

[Godfrey DiGiorgi]

I can't speak to LR4.4, that's too old: I haven't run anything less than 5.x or 
6.x for over a year, certainly never on anything older than macOS 10.11 El 
Capitan. I've been running Sierra through various alpha/beta iterations with 
PSCS5.1 and LR6.x for the past 9 months. The only problems I've noted (with 
both) are some issues with color managed printing profiles, but with LR6.4-6.6 
this happened even on macOS 10.11 El Capitan. LR6.7 seems to have addressed 
these now, but I haven't done extensive testing yet.

Otherwise, all of the apps I use in my image processing workflow (Lightroom, 
Flare, occasionally Photoshop) along with some of the display/word 
processing/etc apps I use have either worked flawlessly or have been updated 
for Sierra already. 

I have an existing installation of the last ever version of Aperture on one of 
my systems and it's still working well with Sierra. 

I understand that Capture One prior to version 9.3 has had some issues that 
have now been taken care of, but it's been a while since I tested C1. 

G


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Dave's workflow dilemma reminded me I wanted to ask you folks if
anyone had experienced or heard of any issues or app breakage caused
by upgrading to Mac OS 10.12 Sierra?

I use an older Lightroom, 4.4. Also older Photoshop CS5 (12.0.4).

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