I am not sure Marxists have a coherent theory of contemporary Imperialism.
Is Lenin's theory of imperialism relevant today?
Ulhas
Not only Marxists have no coherent theory of contemporary Imperialism, but
they are prisoners of a contradiction between Lenin's theory and Rosa
Luxemburg's.
For
The PLO (Hamas included) exists to contain the Palestinian masses and
prevent them from joining with its Jewish counterpart to create a
Palestinian federation of workers' communes in the struggle to abolish
capital. As with Sinn Fein/IRA in Ireland its aim is not the national
self-determination
Romain Kroes:
On the other hand, the exogenous realizing surplus value allows a
theoretical approach of both imperialism history and today's
Globalization, by taking together Luxemburg's and Wallerstein's works.
Does the idea of the exogenous realising of surplus value imply the
existence
Devine, James:
Ulhas:And what is Imperialism in the first place?
Imperialism, as Marxists use that term, refers to a social system of
international domination, of most countries by others. (Unlike in other
perspectives, it is not simply a policy, a decision by government
officials.) Originally
Seth Sandronsky:
Lenin, as Jim noted, said that imperialism was the highest stage of
capitalism. Currently, it appears that exterminism may be a higher stage
yet, if the foreign policy of the current U.S. administration (pre-emptive
nuclear first-strike) is a guide to the future.
Yes, no
In a message dated 7/4/02 6:20:05 AM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
By Immanuel Wallerstein
The United States in decline? Few people today would believe this
assertion. The only ones who do are the U.S. hawks, who argue vociferously
for policies to reverse the decline. This
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
I am not sure Marxists have a coherent theory of contemporary Imperialism.
Is Lenin's theory of imperialism relevant today?
There are theories of imperialism, not a coherent theory if by coherent
you mean unitary. The same is true of the national question, etc. In
PEN-L:
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Re: Imperialism
by Ulhas Joglekar
07 July 2002 12:32 UTC
Seth Sandronsky:
Lenin, as Jim noted, said that imperialism was the highest stage of
capitalism. Currently, it appears that exterminism may be a higher stage
yet, if the foreign policy of the current U.S. administration (pre-emptive
ORIGINAL MESSAGE:
Lenin dubbed imperialism to be the highest stage of capitalism. (I
interpret stage as referring to a specific type of social system
associated with capitalist imperialism.) Unfortunately for him, there
have two or three stages of capitalism -- and one or two stages of
capitalist
Does the idea of the exogenous realising of surplus value imply the
existence non-capitalist modes of production? Are there any such
geographical and sociological spaces left in any part of the world for
the realisation surplus value?
Ulhas
There are very few spaces left, now.
Jim Devine wrote,
Of course, it's hard to figure out some times when one stage begins and
another ends.
1. 1851 - 1914
2. 1914 - 1945
3. 1945 - 1975
4. 1975 - 1991
5. 1991 - 2001
Just a suggestion.
Tom Walker
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Romain Kroes wrote,
But as in besieged Bysance, scholars are still busy discussing the sex of
angels.
Or waiting breathlessly to see what the corpse will do for an encore.
Tom Walker
604 254 0470
Title: re: To JD vis-a-vis stages of imperialism.
I wrote:Lenin dubbed imperialism to be the highest stage of capitalism. (I interpret stage as referring to a specific type of social system associated with capitalist imperialism.) Unfortunately for him, there have two or three stages of
Title: RE: [PEN-L:27676] Re: e: Imperialism in decline?
Romain Kroes writes:Not only Marxists have no coherent theory of contemporary Imperialism, but they are prisoners of a contradiction between Lenin's theory and Rosa Luxemburg's.
does this conclusion follow from a full search of the
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
Is Lenin's theory of imperialism relevant today?
The minute Japan and the EU begin an arms buildup and fight with the
U.S. for influence in the so-called South, and U.S., EU, and Japanese
capitalists withdraw their investments in each other - maybe.
Doug
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
revealed preferences
Who came up with that concept?
Doug
Romain Kroes wrote:
Geographically, the whole world is
already more or less integrated into the net of the financial markets.
But how deeply rooted is this net, to mix metaphors hideously? In
national economies, the financial system is deeply bound up with
issues of ownership and control of
Seth Sandronsky :
In the post 9/11 era, a public targeting of multiple nations as potential
first-strike targets by the U.S. political class. I'm unaware of a past
example of first-strike policy being publicly discussed in the US, fSU,
China, India and Pakistan. Please correct me if I'm
RE: [PEN-L:27676] Re: e: Imperialism in decline?James Devine writes: I
disagree. Marx showed very clearly that capitalism need not suffer from
chronic realization problems, i.e., that it was _possible_ for surplus-value
to be realized internal to the system.
- But Marx did not succeed in
Doug wrote:
(...) Lots of international capital flows are just hot money
moving in and out. They inject and withdraw liquidity, but don't
necessarily get deeply involved in the local scene. Direct investment
is another matter.
- But what about the resultant of capital flows? If this
Doug H wrote
revealed preferences
Who came up with that concept?
Paul Samuelson.
Background (from long-ago graduate school days). About 75% of the following is
true.
In the old days of neoclassical economics they made use of the notion
of utility. Utility was generally seen to
Tom Walker wrote: Or waiting breathlessly to see what the corpse will do
for an encore.
- Where? On Venus?
Eric concluded:
Unfortunately most who cite/use the CPI do not really understand what the CPI
intends to measure. This is true for almost _all_ economists who use the CPI--
most are unaware of the limits of the CPI measure and, so, use it in
unappropriate ways.
The question is, are they fools
Thanks, that was very interesting. I need to think about it some more.
Joanna
At 12:18 AM 07/06/2002 -0500, you wrote:
I have always considered inflation to be a *general* rise in the price
level, rather than a rise in specific prices which feed into the CPI or,
as we used to call it, the COL.
At 06:09 PM 07/05/2002 -0400, Doug wrote:
The CPI market basket is based on the Consumer Expenditure Survey
http://www.bls.gov/cex/home.htm, not what BLS economists deem it to be,
and it includes education, which they weight at 2.7% of spending
ftp://146.142.4.23/pub/news.release/cpi.txt. In
Title: imperialism theory
was: RE: [PEN-L:27695] Re: RE: Re: e: Imperialism in decline?
I wrote: I disagree. Marx showed very clearly that capitalism need not suffer from chronic realization problems, i.e., that it was _possible_ for
surplus-value to be realized internal to the system.
In a message dated 7/5/02 5:30:11 PM Pacific Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
writes:
Nancy writes: I guess my question is, What *is* a dialectical approach?
In their THE DIALECTICAL BIOLOGIST, Levins Lewontin have a useful
description of the dialectical approach, though it's hardly
Title: RE: [PEN-L:27703] Re: dialectical approach
Scott Harrison writes: I haven't read The Dialectical Biologist, but if these three points fairly represent Levins Lewontin's views, then they have left out the single most important thing about dialectics and the dialectical method (although
Joanna wrote re some economists not knowing enough details about CPI, etc:
The question is, are they fools or knaves?
Some of these are people who want to get ahead and, so, delve only deeply
enough into some issue so that they can get published. If the profession
doesn't deem something to be
Doug wrote:
. . .education, which they weight at 2.7% of spending
ftp://146.142.4.23/pub/news.release/cpi.txt. In the CES for 2000,
households spent 1.5% of after-tax income on education. These numbers seem
low, but that's what they say.
That does seem low. But, as oddly, the document
Doug Henwood wrote:
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
Is Lenin's theory of imperialism relevant today?
The minute Japan and the EU begin an arms buildup and fight with the
U.S. for influence in the so-called South, and U.S., EU, and Japanese
capitalists withdraw their investments in each other -
The Times of India
SUNDAY, JULY 07, 2002
Japan gives Vietnam $7 million as water aid
AFP
HANOI: Japan has given Vietnam more than $7 million in aid to improve water
supply systems in three northern provinces, officials said on Saturday.
The exchange notes for the 867 million yen ($7.2
Re the 2.7% average spending on education and childcare:
I wonder the extent to which this is due to the use of household spending
averages.
Example:
Beaver and family: $50,000 spending and $10,000 in education and childcare
spending = 20 spending on ed/childcare%.
70 year old person (a
Ulhas Joglekar wrote:
BTW, the binary image of the world as consisting of the Core and the
periphery is a myth.
Yeah, but I think it'll be coming back pretty soon, along with
bell-bottom jeans and peace medallions. Probably has something to do
with the mess that Argentina's in. Interesting
Title: core vs. periphery
Ulhas notes:the binary image of the world as consisting of the Core and the periphery is a myth.
it's never been binary: Wallerstein, for example, talks about the semi-periphery. Others talk about places like Los Angeles (where I live, BTW) becoming like the
Title: RE: [PEN-L:27709] Re: Re: Re: Re: Inflation and CPI
also, a lot of the payment for education is in the form of taxes, and so doesn't show up in the CPI. (Does the CPI exclude sales taxes? even if it doesn't, it does exclude most other taxes.)
Jd
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Jim wrote:
However, I think it's a mistake to assert that Everything in the world
(and
also in human society and in human thought) is composed of dialectical
contradictions. In view of the idea that dialectical thinking is more of a
set of questions than a set of pre-digested answers,
Devine, James wrote:
However, I think it's a mistake to assert that Everything in the world (and also in
human society and in human thought) is composed of dialectical contradictions.
Whether or not everything is composed of dialectical contradictions, Jim
is quite right to say that it
Title: RE: [PEN-L:27713] Re: core vs. periphery
Ulhas writes:There is no undiffrentiated mass of nations called the Third World.
Of course. What's constant amongst these countries, though, is the relationship between the center and the periphery, the relationship of domination and
Isn't that Samuelson's term?
On Sun, Jul 07, 2002 at 12:10:24PM -0400, Doug Henwood wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
revealed preferences
Who came up with that concept?
Doug
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On Sat, Jul 06, 2002 at 03:35:39PM -0700, Devine, James wrote:
I don't remember, what's the difference between tastes and preferences?
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U.S. FIG Jumps
July 5, 2002
NEW YORK, July 5 (Reuters) - As the nation's manufacturing sector continues
to emerge in June from a year-and-a-half-long slump, rising industrial
commodities prices fueled a sharp increase in inflationary pressures, a
report showed on Friday.
The Economic Cycle
Sunday July 7, 7:36 pm Eastern Time
Reuters Business Report
Globalization Has Helped Poor, Study Says
By Jeremy Gaunt
LONDON (Reuters) - Far from creating poverty as critics claim, rapid
globalization of the world economy has sliced the proportion of abject poor
across the planet, according to
Jim D. wrote,
also, a lot of the payment for education is in the form of taxes, and so
doesn't show up in the CPI. (Does the CPI exclude sales taxes? even if it
doesn't, it does exclude most other taxes.)
Only post-tax spending is included in the CPI. Public school spending, etc,
does not
It seems to me that very different types of stages are being mixed up in
this discussion so far.
Capitalism/imperialism can be divided into stages or periods in any number of
ways. ONE very important and very basic way to do it is Lenin's way:
Stage 1) Highly competitive, pre-monopoly
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